IE 7

I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
bullet on installing it?

I have no intention of switching to IE as my browser, but I can only
imagine that MS will begin to force it on users just as they have with
their "Genuine Advantage" program.

I've tried it a couple of times, but still use IE 6, sp2. I read that
on the new OS that they are going to include IE 7. It's not bad,
improved interface, security, and options. As always though I am
somewhat leary of new products coming out, from any company. I'm sure
its ok to give it a try though.

This is they're homepage:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

Franz Bestuchev wrote:
> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
> bullet on installing it?
>
> I have no intention of switching to IE as my browser, but I can only
> imagine that MS will begin to force it on users just as they have with
> their "Genuine Advantage" program.

David wrote:
> I've tried it a couple of times, but still use IE 6, sp2. I read that
> on the new OS that they are going to include IE 7. It's not bad,
> improved interface, security, and options. As always though I am
> somewhat leary of new products coming out, from any company. I'm sure
> its ok to give it a try though.
>
> This is they're homepage:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx
>
> Franz Bestuchev wrote:
>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>> bullet on installing it?
>>
>> I have no intention of switching to IE as my browser, but I can only
>> imagine that MS will begin to force it on users just as they have with
>> their "Genuine Advantage" program.
>

hi

_/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
> bullet on installing it?

I installed it a few days ago. Nothing special. It just makes it hard to
find the little buttons you want to press. I don't use IE, so with the
upgrade nothing has changed.... Oh, and it'll erase all the bookmarks.

--
-slunky

"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
news:slrnekt624.n5.slunky@equator.zero...
> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>> bullet on installing it?
>
> I installed it a few days ago. Nothing special. It just makes it hard to
> find the little buttons you want to press. I don't use IE, so with the
> upgrade nothing has changed.... Oh, and it'll erase all the bookmarks.
>
> --
> -slunky

MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature, but you are correct it erased
book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE to get my windows updates.

_/ Jane wrote \_
> MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature,

Mozilla copied their tab feature from Opera first though.

> but you are correct it erased book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE
> to get my windows updates.

I use Opera and Firefox, but keep IE for the same reason as you.

--
-slunky

"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
news:slrnekt7rs.n5.slunky@equator.zero...
> _/ Jane wrote \_
> > MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature,
>
> Mozilla copied their tab feature from Opera first though.
>
> > but you are correct it erased book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE
> > to get my windows updates.
>
> I use Opera and Firefox, but keep IE for the same reason as you.
>
> --
> -slunky


i keep IE cause Norton says i have to ,
and i keep Norton cause IE says i have to ,
other than that i have no use of either ,
i even deleted my widows update files ,
so i never get any updates

Jane wrote:
> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
> news:slrnekt624.n5.slunky@equator.zero...
>> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>>> bullet on installing it?
>> I installed it a few days ago. Nothing special. It just makes it hard to
>> find the little buttons you want to press. I don't use IE, so with the
>> upgrade nothing has changed.... Oh, and it'll erase all the bookmarks.
>>
>> --
>> -slunky
>
> MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature, but you are correct it erased
> book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE to get my windows updates.
>
>

I do just the same. I don't actually have any IE bookmarks...so fire away!

I could just use the Automatic Updates, but I'd prefer to run it when it
works for me and the easiest way is to just open IE and start Windows
Update (oh, and Office Update too).

I've been reading some of the posts in ms.public.ie.general and there
are some interesting comments.

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:qcWdna7f1P3lPdPYnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
|

| i even deleted my widows update files ,
| so i never get any updates
|
|


that sounds dangerous, you widow maker you!

Franz Bestuchev wrote:

> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
> bullet on installing it?
>
> I have no intention of switching to IE as my browser, but I can only
> imagine that MS will begin to force it on users just as they have with
> their "Genuine Advantage" program.

"Bite the Bullet" and get Linux.
Doug, Registered Linux User,
Mandriva 2006.
--
We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.
- Winston Churchill

On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 17:41:57 -0700, Franz Bestuchev wrote:

> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
> bullet on installing it?
>
> I have no intention of switching to IE as my browser, but I can only
> imagine that MS will begin to force it on users just as they have with
> their "Genuine Advantage" program.

I don't use it but I did upgrade it the other day... it's but-ugly.

"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4r7up5Fpoc8tU1@individual.net...
> Jane wrote:
>> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
>> news:slrnekt624.n5.slunky@equator.zero...
>>> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>>>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>>>> bullet on installing it?
>>> I installed it a few days ago. Nothing special. It just makes it hard to
>>> find the little buttons you want to press. I don't use IE, so with the
>>> upgrade nothing has changed.... Oh, and it'll erase all the bookmarks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -slunky
>>
>> MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature, but you are correct it
>> erased book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE to get my windows updates.
>
> I do just the same. I don't actually have any IE bookmarks...so fire away!
>
> I could just use the Automatic Updates, but I'd prefer to run it when it
> works for me and the easiest way is to just open IE and start Windows
> Update (oh, and Office Update too).
>
> I've been reading some of the posts in ms.public.ie.general and there are
> some interesting comments.

At work we use QuickBooks pro, it's not compatible with IE7... Says we have
to use IE6. I'm not going to downgrade at work unless it starts causing
issues.

Doug Laidlaw wrote:
> Franz Bestuchev wrote:
>
>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>> bullet on installing it?
>>
>> I have no intention of switching to IE as my browser, but I can only
>> imagine that MS will begin to force it on users just as they have with
>> their "Genuine Advantage" program.
>
> "Bite the Bullet" and get Linux.
> Doug, Registered Linux User,
> Mandriva 2006.

I've got Linux, BSD, Darwin/Aqua, Solaris, Windows of all flavors...I
"enjoy" them all.

Ivan Marsh wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 17:41:57 -0700, Franz Bestuchev wrote:
>
>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>> bullet on installing it?
>>
>> I have no intention of switching to IE as my browser, but I can only
>> imagine that MS will begin to force it on users just as they have with
>> their "Genuine Advantage" program.
>
> I don't use it but I did upgrade it the other day... it's but-ugly.
>

I installed it, but then Ghosted my machine back.

I think a little chair throwing at Steve Ballmer is in order.

_/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
> I've got Linux, BSD, Darwin/Aqua, Solaris, Windows of all flavors...I
> "enjoy" them all.

What! No QNX or BeOS?

--
-slunky

Jane wrote:
> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4r7up5Fpoc8tU1@individual.net...
>> Jane wrote:
>>> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnekt624.n5.slunky@equator.zero...
>>>> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>>>>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>>>>> bullet on installing it?
>>>> I installed it a few days ago. Nothing special. It just makes it hard to
>>>> find the little buttons you want to press. I don't use IE, so with the
>>>> upgrade nothing has changed.... Oh, and it'll erase all the bookmarks.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -slunky
>>> MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature, but you are correct it
>>> erased book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE to get my windows updates.
>> I do just the same. I don't actually have any IE bookmarks...so fire away!
>>
>> I could just use the Automatic Updates, but I'd prefer to run it when it
>> works for me and the easiest way is to just open IE and start Windows
>> Update (oh, and Office Update too).
>>
>> I've been reading some of the posts in ms.public.ie.general and there are
>> some interesting comments.
>
> At work we use QuickBooks pro, it's not compatible with IE7... Says we have
> to use IE6. I'm not going to downgrade at work unless it starts causing
> issues.
>
>

Grr, QuickBooks...what a pain in the ass that program has developed into.

slunky wrote:
> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>> I've got Linux, BSD, Darwin/Aqua, Solaris, Windows of all flavors...I
>> "enjoy" them all.
>
> What! No QNX or BeOS?
>

I do have a copy of QNX somewhere, I remember showing it off to some of
the other IT guys back when it first showed up on the scene.

....and if I look over to yonder shelf I see boxed copies of BeOS (*and*
the GoBe office suite for it), and OS/2 Warp.

The Be operating system is/was just amazing.

_/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
> ...and if I look over to yonder shelf I see boxed copies of BeOS (*and*
> the GoBe office suite for it), and OS/2 Warp.

I want one of those Beboxes with the LED panels on the front.

> The Be operating system is/was just amazing.

It is. I think I remember something about Palm buying Be Inc a couple
years ago.

--
-slunky

slunky wrote:
> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>> ...and if I look over to yonder shelf I see boxed copies of BeOS (*and*
>> the GoBe office suite for it), and OS/2 Warp.
>
> I want one of those Beboxes with the LED panels on the front.
>

I hear ya, but the prices I've seen them selling for makes me less fond
of blinkenlights!

I'd also love a Next cube...I wish I had a link to the guy who stripped
it down to the raw magnesium and then polished it to a mirror
shine...blinged out.

>> The Be operating system is/was just amazing.
>
> It is. I think I remember something about Palm buying Be Inc a couple
> years ago.
>

Yea, and look how much they've done with that IP!

They should have opened up the source as the OSS community was begging
for and then made their devices able to run a world of software that
would be developed for them...for free.

"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4rd825Fqsq4aU2@mid.individual.net...
> Jane wrote:
>> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4r7up5Fpoc8tU1@individual.net...
>>> Jane wrote:
>>>> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:slrnekt624.n5.slunky@equator.zero...
>>>>> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>>>>>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>>>>>> bullet on installing it?
>>>>> I installed it a few days ago. Nothing special. It just makes it hard
>>>>> to
>>>>> find the little buttons you want to press. I don't use IE, so with the
>>>>> upgrade nothing has changed.... Oh, and it'll erase all the bookmarks.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> -slunky
>>>> MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature, but you are correct it
>>>> erased book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE to get my windows
>>>> updates.
>>> I do just the same. I don't actually have any IE bookmarks...so fire
>>> away!
>>>
>>> I could just use the Automatic Updates, but I'd prefer to run it when it
>>> works for me and the easiest way is to just open IE and start Windows
>>> Update (oh, and Office Update too).
>>>
>>> I've been reading some of the posts in ms.public.ie.general and there
>>> are some interesting comments.
>>
>> At work we use QuickBooks pro, it's not compatible with IE7... Says we
>> have to use IE6. I'm not going to downgrade at work unless it starts
>> causing issues.
>
> Grr, QuickBooks...what a pain in the ass that program has developed into.

Tell me about it and my boss is sooooooo Jurassic park he won't switch or
upgrade.

Jane wrote:
> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4rd825Fqsq4aU2@mid.individual.net...
>> Jane wrote:
>>> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4r7up5Fpoc8tU1@individual.net...
>>>> Jane wrote:
>>>>> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:slrnekt624.n5.slunky@equator.zero...
>>>>>> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>>>>>>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>>>>>>> bullet on installing it?
>>>>>> I installed it a few days ago. Nothing special. It just makes it hard
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> find the little buttons you want to press. I don't use IE, so with the
>>>>>> upgrade nothing has changed.... Oh, and it'll erase all the bookmarks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -slunky
>>>>> MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature, but you are correct it
>>>>> erased book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE to get my windows
>>>>> updates.
>>>> I do just the same. I don't actually have any IE bookmarks...so fire
>>>> away!
>>>>
>>>> I could just use the Automatic Updates, but I'd prefer to run it when it
>>>> works for me and the easiest way is to just open IE and start Windows
>>>> Update (oh, and Office Update too).
>>>>
>>>> I've been reading some of the posts in ms.public.ie.general and there
>>>> are some interesting comments.
>>> At work we use QuickBooks pro, it's not compatible with IE7... Says we
>>> have to use IE6. I'm not going to downgrade at work unless it starts
>>> causing issues.
>> Grr, QuickBooks...what a pain in the ass that program has developed into.
>
> Tell me about it and my boss is sooooooo Jurassic park he won't switch or
> upgrade.
>
>

The craptacular problem is that QuickBooks is the only thing for some
small markets.

"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4rfkvrFr897uU1@mid.individual.net...
> Jane wrote:
>> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4rd825Fqsq4aU2@mid.individual.net...
>>> Jane wrote:
>>>> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4r7up5Fpoc8tU1@individual.net...
>>>>> Jane wrote:
>>>>>> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:slrnekt624.n5.slunky@equator.zero...
>>>>>>> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>>>>>>>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>>>>>>>> bullet on installing it?
>>>>>>> I installed it a few days ago. Nothing special. It just makes it
>>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>>> find the little buttons you want to press. I don't use IE, so with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> upgrade nothing has changed.... Oh, and it'll erase all the
>>>>>>> bookmarks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> -slunky
>>>>>> MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature, but you are correct it
>>>>>> erased book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE to get my windows
>>>>>> updates.
>>>>> I do just the same. I don't actually have any IE bookmarks...so fire
>>>>> away!
>>>>>
>>>>> I could just use the Automatic Updates, but I'd prefer to run it when
>>>>> it works for me and the easiest way is to just open IE and start
>>>>> Windows Update (oh, and Office Update too).
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been reading some of the posts in ms.public.ie.general and there
>>>>> are some interesting comments.
>>>> At work we use QuickBooks pro, it's not compatible with IE7... Says we
>>>> have to use IE6. I'm not going to downgrade at work unless it starts
>>>> causing issues.
>>> Grr, QuickBooks...what a pain in the ass that program has developed
>>> into.
>>
>> Tell me about it and my boss is sooooooo Jurassic park he won't switch or
>> upgrade.
>
> The craptacular problem is that QuickBooks is the only thing for some
> small markets.

Well he has probably 200+ clients and at least 35+ active at all times and
bills out approx 160k a month. he can afford to expand! LOL

Jane wrote:
> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4rfkvrFr897uU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Jane wrote:
>>> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4rd825Fqsq4aU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Jane wrote:
>>>>> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4r7up5Fpoc8tU1@individual.net...
>>>>>> Jane wrote:
>>>>>>> "slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:slrnekt624.n5.slunky@equator.zero...
>>>>>>>> _/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
>>>>>>>>> I noticed that IE7 is now listed in Windows Update, anybody bit the
>>>>>>>>> bullet on installing it?
>>>>>>>> I installed it a few days ago. Nothing special. It just makes it
>>>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>>>> find the little buttons you want to press. I don't use IE, so with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> upgrade nothing has changed.... Oh, and it'll erase all the
>>>>>>>> bookmarks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> -slunky
>>>>>>> MS tried to copy Mozilla with the tab feature, but you are correct it
>>>>>>> erased book marks, I use mozilla, but keep IE to get my windows
>>>>>>> updates.
>>>>>> I do just the same. I don't actually have any IE bookmarks...so fire
>>>>>> away!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could just use the Automatic Updates, but I'd prefer to run it when
>>>>>> it works for me and the easiest way is to just open IE and start
>>>>>> Windows Update (oh, and Office Update too).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been reading some of the posts in ms.public.ie.general and there
>>>>>> are some interesting comments.
>>>>> At work we use QuickBooks pro, it's not compatible with IE7... Says we
>>>>> have to use IE6. I'm not going to downgrade at work unless it starts
>>>>> causing issues.
>>>> Grr, QuickBooks...what a pain in the ass that program has developed
>>>> into.
>>> Tell me about it and my boss is sooooooo Jurassic park he won't switch or
>>> upgrade.
>> The craptacular problem is that QuickBooks is the only thing for some
>> small markets.
>
> Well he has probably 200+ clients and at least 35+ active at all times and
> bills out approx 160k a month. he can afford to expand! LOL
>
>

That's certainly getting on towards more than QuickBooks is designed
for. Most businesses are only appropriate for QB until they start
pulling in a million/year.

"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4rfrj2Fps9raU3@mid.individual.net...

> That's certainly getting on towards more than QuickBooks is designed for.
> Most businesses are only appropriate for QB until they start pulling in a
> million/year.

He's waaaaaaaaaaay beyond that.... He'll switch when it doesn't work well
for "him"

Jane wrote:
> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4rfrj2Fps9raU3@mid.individual.net...
>
>> That's certainly getting on towards more than QuickBooks is designed for.
>> Most businesses are only appropriate for QB until they start pulling in a
>> million/year.
>
> He's waaaaaaaaaaay beyond that.... He'll switch when it doesn't work well
> for "him"
>
>

....if he even knows, I helped out the local bike shop and the owner was
amazed that he had over $60k of outstanding invoices owed to him.
Whenever he went to check out such thing it would start dragging ass so
much that he'd just quit it and expect that his ancient pre-WWI
bookkeeper would catch it. He did finally get his affairs sorted, but it
took him almost all of the slow season (November-March) to do so. Sigh,
and even then he just stepped up to the Enterprise edition.

His books were a mess. So it was a combination of Quickbooks standard
being tool and...garbage in, garbage out.

I could've done a lot more business with him, consultant wise, *if* I
had told him that I wasn't just a geek but also had business experience.
However I detest the management/business side of business, so I didn't
want to get drawn into helping him clean up his accounts.

I did get a nice arrangement of free bike bits and cash...I really like
the ol' barter system when I can.

"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ri9a9Frgd36U1@mid.individual.net...
> Jane wrote:
> > "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:4rfrj2Fps9raU3@mid.individual.net...
> >
> >> That's certainly getting on towards more than QuickBooks is designed
for.
> >> Most businesses are only appropriate for QB until they start pulling in
a
> >> million/year.
> >
> > He's waaaaaaaaaaay beyond that.... He'll switch when it doesn't work
well
> > for "him"
> >
> >
>
> ...if he even knows, I helped out the local bike shop and the owner was
> amazed that he had over $60k of outstanding invoices owed to him.
> Whenever he went to check out such thing it would start dragging ass so
> much that he'd just quit it and expect that his ancient pre-WWI
> bookkeeper would catch it. He did finally get his affairs sorted, but it
> took him almost all of the slow season (November-March) to do so. Sigh,
> and even then he just stepped up to the Enterprise edition.
>
> His books were a mess. So it was a combination of Quickbooks standard
> being tool and...garbage in, garbage out.
>
> I could've done a lot more business with him, consultant wise, *if* I
> had told him that I wasn't just a geek but also had business experience.
> However I detest the management/business side of business, so I didn't
> want to get drawn into helping him clean up his accounts.
>
> I did get a nice arrangement of free bike bits and cash...I really like
> the ol' barter system when I can.


i'll trade you this goat for Luna

% wrote:
> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4ri9a9Frgd36U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Jane wrote:
>>> "Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4rfrj2Fps9raU3@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>> That's certainly getting on towards more than QuickBooks is designed
> for.
>>>> Most businesses are only appropriate for QB until they start pulling in
> a
>>>> million/year.
>>> He's waaaaaaaaaaay beyond that.... He'll switch when it doesn't work
> well
>>> for "him"
>>>
>>>
>> ...if he even knows, I helped out the local bike shop and the owner was
>> amazed that he had over $60k of outstanding invoices owed to him.
>> Whenever he went to check out such thing it would start dragging ass so
>> much that he'd just quit it and expect that his ancient pre-WWI
>> bookkeeper would catch it. He did finally get his affairs sorted, but it
>> took him almost all of the slow season (November-March) to do so. Sigh,
>> and even then he just stepped up to the Enterprise edition.
>>
>> His books were a mess. So it was a combination of Quickbooks standard
>> being tool and...garbage in, garbage out.
>>
>> I could've done a lot more business with him, consultant wise, *if* I
>> had told him that I wasn't just a geek but also had business experience.
>> However I detest the management/business side of business, so I didn't
>> want to get drawn into helping him clean up his accounts.
>>
>> I did get a nice arrangement of free bike bits and cash...I really like
>> the ol' barter system when I can.
>
>
> i'll trade you this goat for Luna
>
>

She's worth at least a Yeti