A more inclusive concept of reality

In many minds today there exists this error:

Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
while ignoring all else that reality is.

What am I talking about? In the words of one poster, "Reality is paying

one's bills." The issue of paying or not paying of bills aside, what
truly is reality?

Reality is the Sun that is the giver of all life on earth. Reality is
the planet on which we live. Reality is all that exists in nature and
in humanity. So how can it be identified so narrowly with something
that is simply an adaptation, and one out of many that has existed in
history?

This is not a rightful attitude, nor is it an innocent one. Inability
to see beyond the adaptation leads people to make hideous errors. It
leads them, in effect, to discount all else that is reality besides
their adaptation. Thus, it leads people who make this error to run
roughshod over the planet and completely deny the damage that's done to

the planet and all that lives on it. It leads people who make this
error to completely devalue all things for which the adaptation does
not see immediate utility, no matter how precious or beautiful those
things in themselves are. It leads people who make this error to see
nothing in people except what can be used, temporarily, by the
adaptation, while completely discounting all else of which people are
capable - and all else that they can accomplish.

The people who participate in this adaptation refer to the dissidents
from them as being arrogant or stupid. There is nothing more stupid and

arrogant than usurping reality from the cosmos and believing that one
adaptation, by some people, at some point in history, is the whole of
reality - and Milky Way, Sistine Chapel, and the Yosemite National
Forest are not. Quite simply, this is an outrageous case of deliberate
ignorance; and it profits many to recognize not only that adaptation is

not the whole of reality, but that in identifying it as such people are

blinded to all else that is real, whether it be in the nature around
them or in the things that people can create.

So to the people who are struggling with the idea that having a
different perspective than that of this adaptation makes them not
adjusted to live in reality: Reality is far greater than that of this
or any other historical adaptation, and it is by seeing beyond one or
another adaptation and toward reality as a whole they acquire a far
more complete view of reality, and one that being more complete is
capable of producing far more precise and far more benificent results.

http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
Ilya Shambat.

hi , is this cross posted on purpose ,
or didn't you know some people think its bad to do that

On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:03:19 -0700, - wrote:

> In many minds today there exists this error:
>
> Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
> while ignoring all else that reality is.
>
> http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
> Ilya Shambat.

The only true reality is that you're a name shifting fuckwad. Stay in my
killfile you obnoxious blowhard.

"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
newsan.2006.10.09.21.15.17.482435@you.now...
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:03:19 -0700, - wrote:
>
> > In many minds today there exists this error:
> >
> > Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
> > while ignoring all else that reality is.
> >
> > http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
> > Ilya Shambat.
>
> The only true reality is that you're a name shifting fuckwad. Stay in my
> killfile you obnoxious blowhard.



it just keeps getting better

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
> newsan.2006.10.09.21.15.17.482435@you.now...
>> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:03:19 -0700, - wrote:
>>
>> > In many minds today there exists this error:
>> >
>> > Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
>> > while ignoring all else that reality is.
>> >
>> > http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
>> > Ilya Shambat.
>>
>> The only true reality is that you're a name shifting fuckwad. Stay in my
>> killfile you obnoxious blowhard.
>
>
>
> it just keeps getting better
>
>
doesn't it!
: )

"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
newsan.2006.10.09.21.15.17.482435@you.now...
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:03:19 -0700, - wrote:
>
>> In many minds today there exists this error:
>>
>> Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
>> while ignoring all else that reality is.
>>
>> http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
>> Ilya Shambat.
>
> The only true reality is that you're a name shifting fuckwad. Stay in my
> killfile you obnoxious blowhard.

wow. perfect name for the hero of my next erotic film script.
blowhard fuckwad.

i just hope it doesn't sound too "preppy".
hmm.
"first-born son of self-made industrialist bernhard x. fuckwad and heir to
the fuckwad billions."
m hm.

from the trailers:

"oh, blowhard..."
"silence, wench."
"i want you to sire my babies."
<wap slap>
"silence, i say."

"good morning, pater."
"you scoundrel."
<wap slap>
"you dare call yourself a fuckwad? down with those drawers, sirrah."
<ghasp>
"i meant it! now give me your CANE!"
"yipe! YIPE!"

oh man, this is going to be great. it's the brass ring at last.

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> hi , is this cross posted on purpose ,
> or didn't you know some people think its bad to do that

uselessnet is a hot bed for attention
seekers and misery loves company.

Thank you Ilya Shambat, for sharing your thoughts here. Your words make
pretty good sense to me. Especially the part where you concluded,
"Reality is far greater than that of this or any other historical
adaptation, and it is by seeing beyond one or another adaptation and
toward reality as a whole they acquire a far more complete view of
reality, and one that being more complete is capable of producing far
more precise and far more benificent results."

Would it be possible for you to give us some adaption reality examples
of the practicing of your thoughts in such a manner as to "produce far
more precise and far more benificient results"?

Could you give me examples of these results?

What you are sharing seems to hint at a process of leaving the trail to
gather more to bring back to the trail...to strengthen the journey on
the trail? Acquiring the bigger picture through meditation?

Hmmm...wonder what you said to stimulate so much rudeness? Kinda wierd.

Respectfully, DAN 1

- wrote:
> In many minds today there exists this error:
>
> Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
> while ignoring all else that reality is.
>
> What am I talking about? In the words of one poster, "Reality is paying
>
> one's bills." The issue of paying or not paying of bills aside, what
> truly is reality?
>
> Reality is the Sun that is the giver of all life on earth. Reality is
> the planet on which we live. Reality is all that exists in nature and
> in humanity. So how can it be identified so narrowly with something
> that is simply an adaptation, and one out of many that has existed in
> history?
>
> This is not a rightful attitude, nor is it an innocent one. Inability
> to see beyond the adaptation leads people to make hideous errors. It
> leads them, in effect, to discount all else that is reality besides
> their adaptation. Thus, it leads people who make this error to run
> roughshod over the planet and completely deny the damage that's done to
>
> the planet and all that lives on it. It leads people who make this
> error to completely devalue all things for which the adaptation does
> not see immediate utility, no matter how precious or beautiful those
> things in themselves are. It leads people who make this error to see
> nothing in people except what can be used, temporarily, by the
> adaptation, while completely discounting all else of which people are
> capable - and all else that they can accomplish.
>
> The people who participate in this adaptation refer to the dissidents
> from them as being arrogant or stupid. There is nothing more stupid and
>
> arrogant than usurping reality from the cosmos and believing that one
> adaptation, by some people, at some point in history, is the whole of
> reality - and Milky Way, Sistine Chapel, and the Yosemite National
> Forest are not. Quite simply, this is an outrageous case of deliberate
> ignorance; and it profits many to recognize not only that adaptation is
>
> not the whole of reality, but that in identifying it as such people are
>
> blinded to all else that is real, whether it be in the nature around
> them or in the things that people can create.
>
> So to the people who are struggling with the idea that having a
> different perspective than that of this adaptation makes them not
> adjusted to live in reality: Reality is far greater than that of this
> or any other historical adaptation, and it is by seeing beyond one or
> another adaptation and toward reality as a whole they acquire a far
> more complete view of reality, and one that being more complete is
> capable of producing far more precise and far more benificent results.
>
> http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
> Ilya Shambat.

DAN 1 wrote:
> Thank you Ilya Shambat, for sharing your thoughts here. Your words make
> pretty good sense to me. Especially the part where you concluded,
> "Reality is far greater than that of this or any other historical
> adaptation, and it is by seeing beyond one or another adaptation and
> toward reality as a whole they acquire a far more complete view of
> reality, and one that being more complete is capable of producing far
> more precise and far more benificent results."

Thank you.

> Would it be possible for you to give us some adaption reality examples
> of the practicing of your thoughts in such a manner as to "produce far
> more precise and far more benificient results"?

Sure. Rather than seeing reality as what the adaptation wants you to
see it as, see the reality as a whole. See the Sun; see the planet; see
the potentialities that live in the people's minds and hearts and see
what most can be made of them. Do not look only at GDP; look at the
effect on the world as a whole and on the people who live in it. Do not
look at people on the basis of social masks; look at the essences. Do
not look at self on basis of referential perspectives; look
intrinsically. And then craft from there.

> What you are sharing seems to hint at a process of leaving the trail to
> gather more to bring back to the trail...to strengthen the journey on
> the trail? Acquiring the bigger picture through meditation?

Meditation can be a way of clearing rubbish and acquiring insight.
There are others though as well.

> Hmmm...wonder what you said to stimulate so much rudeness?

Introduce a perspective that many would rather not exist.

http://ibshambat.blogspot.com

I can see that practicing this growth mindset will take strength and
time. The strength to behold the horror of certain effects and the time
to ask the questions that could help reveal essences in an individual.
But even a few moments a day could bring benefit to one's mind and
Spirit.

The word "adaptation" here. Does this refer to a particular social
style? Such as Capitalism?

It seems to me that America as an expression of Capitalism is at the
same time more than the Capitalist mindset...though seeing this from a
population numbers angle, I suppose that the Capitalist Adaptation is
dominant. However, it is easy to go outside this adaptation right
here...though perhaps the dominant mindset will always be present like
a mental and emotional shadow. Not too hard to ignore it. The Rainbow
Mindset is an alternative adaptation I think. This is in keeping with
your advocacy of "...seeing beyond one or another adaptation..."

I am beginning to realize that I spend much time doing what you
advocate in my search for kindred Spirits. Though I still have
difficulty "touching" certain Adaptations, because they feel angry and
sick in a way that they seem trapped. The White Supremist Adaptation
for example. I realize that much of this negativity is the by-product
of fear and I believe that fear, (in the context that we look at it
here.), is a genetic survival trait gone amuk.

Anyway, I find your use of the term Adaptation to be quite valid and
refreshing and your thoughts riding it helpful. Useful in my personal
growth process. I thank you for this contribution and the url. I will
visit.

Hope you have a good day.

Respectfully, DAN 1

- wrote:
> DAN 1 wrote:
> > Thank you Ilya Shambat, for sharing your thoughts here. Your words make
> > pretty good sense to me. Especially the part where you concluded,
> > "Reality is far greater than that of this or any other historical
> > adaptation, and it is by seeing beyond one or another adaptation and
> > toward reality as a whole they acquire a far more complete view of
> > reality, and one that being more complete is capable of producing far
> > more precise and far more benificent results."
>
> Thank you.
>
> > Would it be possible for you to give us some adaption reality examples
> > of the practicing of your thoughts in such a manner as to "produce far
> > more precise and far more benificient results"?
>
> Sure. Rather than seeing reality as what the adaptation wants you to
> see it as, see the reality as a whole. See the Sun; see the planet; see
> the potentialities that live in the people's minds and hearts and see
> what most can be made of them. Do not look only at GDP; look at the
> effect on the world as a whole and on the people who live in it. Do not
> look at people on the basis of social masks; look at the essences. Do
> not look at self on basis of referential perspectives; look
> intrinsically. And then craft from there.
>
> > What you are sharing seems to hint at a process of leaving the trail to
> > gather more to bring back to the trail...to strengthen the journey on
> > the trail? Acquiring the bigger picture through meditation?
>
> Meditation can be a way of clearing rubbish and acquiring insight.
> There are others though as well.
>
> > Hmmm...wonder what you said to stimulate so much rudeness?
>
> Introduce a perspective that many would rather not exist.
>
> http://ibshambat.blogspot.com

I, for one, am very glad I came here and decided to have a look at the
post entitled "A More Inclusive Concept Of Reality". Going to where
this has led me, I now have a treasured place to go on a cold snowy
night to read and consider the outpourings of another good heart and
mind.

Thank you Crea. Thank you for your gift of the personality of Ilya
Shambat. I am richly blessed this day. For you I will grow more and
better.

With Love and Respect, DAN 1

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:30:40 -0700, DAN 1 wrote:

> I, for one, am very glad I came here and decided to have a look at the
> post entitled "A More Inclusive Concept Of Reality". Going to where
> this has led me, I now have a treasured place to go on a cold snowy
> night to read and consider the outpourings of another good heart and
> mind.
>
> Thank you Crea. Thank you for your gift of the personality of Ilya
> Shambat. I am richly blessed this day. For you I will grow more and
> better.
>
> With Love and Respect, DAN 1

*plonk*

Uh oh! It looks like I have earned an Ivan Marsh *plonk*. Oh dear me.
I better go hide.
Nice Ivan Marsh. Good Ivan Marsh. We wuv duh Ivan Marsh.
DAN 1

Ivan Marsh wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:30:40 -0700, DAN 1 wrote:
>
> > I, for one, am very glad I came here and decided to have a look at the
> > post entitled "A More Inclusive Concept Of Reality". Going to where
> > this has led me, I now have a treasured place to go on a cold snowy
> > night to read and consider the outpourings of another good heart and
> > mind.
> >
> > Thank you Crea. Thank you for your gift of the personality of Ilya
> > Shambat. I am richly blessed this day. For you I will grow more and
> > better.
> >
> > With Love and Respect, DAN 1
>
> *plonk*

"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
> newsan.2006.10.09.21.15.17.482435@you.now...

>> The only true reality is that you're a name shifting fuckwad. Stay in my
>> killfile you obnoxious blowhard.
>
> wow. perfect name for the hero of my next erotic film script.
> blowhard fuckwad.
>
> i just hope it doesn't sound too "preppy".
> hmm.
> "first-born son of self-made industrialist bernhard x. fuckwad and heir to
> the fuckwad billions."
> m hm.
>
> from the trailers:
>
> "oh, blowhard..."
> "silence, wench."
> "i want you to sire my babies."
> <wap slap>
> "silence, i say."
>
> "good morning, pater."
> "you scoundrel."
> <wap slap>
> "you dare call yourself a fuckwad? down with those drawers, sirrah."
> <ghasp>
> "i meant it! now give me your CANE!"
> "yipe! YIPE!"
>
> oh man, this is going to be great. it's the brass ring at last

Oh man...LOL...this actually works.

--
Rhi

"DAN 1" <srubnaya@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hmmm...wonder what you said to stimulate so much rudeness? Kinda wierd.
>
> Respectfully, DAN 1

As the long standing target for most of Usenet's wrath, what he said wrong
is pretty much anything. The why behind it appears to be limitless, yet all
these years later and despite the fact that I have tried, I still don't
completely understand it. I recommend you do a Google search of past posts
to get a clearer picture of what I mean, or like me, you can simply ignore
all that and like him and his writing in your own way for your own reasons.
I don't always agree with his opinions, in fact, there have been times when
his position on an issue has infuriated me, yet despite this, I have a soft
spot for Ilya that most don't share. As for his writing. Good or bad or
mediocre, depending upon which "expert" you ask, has never mattered to me.
I like his style. He has been known to turn a phrase just perfectly or use
a descriptive that strikes a chord so deep in me I can't help but love it.
And that which I admire most is the fact that he keeps at it, putting his
words out there, undaunted by the criticism, true to himself, because it's
important to him. You'll get used to the "rudeness". You may even learn to
ignore it, given that everyone is entitled to an opinion and I have no wish
to deny them that, and just appreciate what Ilya offers you on a personal
level. :-)

--
Rhi

"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> "DAN 1" <srubnaya@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1160496518.040491.148310@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Hmmm...wonder what you said to stimulate so much rudeness? Kinda wierd.
> >
> > Respectfully, DAN 1
>
> As the long standing target for most of Usenet's wrath, what he said wrong
> is pretty much anything. The why behind it appears to be limitless, yet
all
> these years later and despite the fact that I have tried, I still don't
> completely understand it. I recommend you do a Google search of past
posts
> to get a clearer picture of what I mean, or like me, you can simply ignore
> all that and like him and his writing in your own way for your own
reasons.
> I don't always agree with his opinions, in fact, there have been times
when
> his position on an issue has infuriated me, yet despite this, I have a
soft
> spot for Ilya that most don't share. As for his writing. Good or bad or
> mediocre, depending upon which "expert" you ask, has never mattered to me.
> I like his style. He has been known to turn a phrase just perfectly or
use
> a descriptive that strikes a chord so deep in me I can't help but love it.
> And that which I admire most is the fact that he keeps at it, putting his
> words out there, undaunted by the criticism, true to himself, because it's
> important to him. You'll get used to the "rudeness". You may even learn
to
> ignore it, given that everyone is entitled to an opinion and I have no
wish
> to deny them that, and just appreciate what Ilya offers you on a personal
> level. :-)
>
> --
> Rhi
>
>


he only bothers me ,
when he changes names ,
to trick me into reading ,
something i might skip by ,
if i knew it was him

life is like a box of chocolates...u will never know what u r gonna
get...the same
% wrote:
> "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:egp0gq$c52$1@news.datemas.de...
> > "DAN 1" <srubnaya@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1160496518.040491.148310@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > > Hmmm...wonder what you said to stimulate so much rudeness? Kinda wierd.
> > >
> > > Respectfully, DAN 1
> >
> > As the long standing target for most of Usenet's wrath, what he said wrong
> > is pretty much anything. The why behind it appears to be limitless, yet
> all
> > these years later and despite the fact that I have tried, I still don't
> > completely understand it. I recommend you do a Google search of past
> posts
> > to get a clearer picture of what I mean, or like me, you can simply ignore
> > all that and like him and his writing in your own way for your own
> reasons.
> > I don't always agree with his opinions, in fact, there have been times
> when
> > his position on an issue has infuriated me, yet despite this, I have a
> soft
> > spot for Ilya that most don't share. As for his writing. Good or bad or
> > mediocre, depending upon which "expert" you ask, has never mattered to me.
> > I like his style. He has been known to turn a phrase just perfectly or
> use
> > a descriptive that strikes a chord so deep in me I can't help but love it.
> > And that which I admire most is the fact that he keeps at it, putting his
> > words out there, undaunted by the criticism, true to himself, because it's
> > important to him. You'll get used to the "rudeness". You may even learn
> to
> > ignore it, given that everyone is entitled to an opinion and I have no
> wish
> > to deny them that, and just appreciate what Ilya offers you on a personal
> > level. :-)
> >
> > --
> > Rhi
> >
> >
>
>
> he only bothers me ,
> when he changes names ,
> to trick me into reading ,
> something i might skip by ,
> if i knew it was him

cal wrote:
> "Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
> newsan.2006.10.09.21.15.17.482435@you.now...
> > On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:03:19 -0700, - wrote:
> >
> >> In many minds today there exists this error:
> >>
> >> Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
> >> while ignoring all else that reality is.
> >>
> >> http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
> >> Ilya Shambat.
> >
> > The only true reality is that you're a name shifting fuckwad. Stay in my
> > killfile you obnoxious blowhard.
>
> wow. perfect name for the hero of my next erotic film script.
> blowhard fuckwad.
>
> i just hope it doesn't sound too "preppy".
> hmm.
> "first-born son of self-made industrialist bernhard x. fuckwad and heir to
> the fuckwad billions."
> m hm.
>
> from the trailers:
>
> "oh, blowhard..."
> "silence, wench."
> "i want you to sire my babies."
> <wap slap>
> "silence, i say."
>
> "good morning, pater."
> "you scoundrel."
> <wap slap>
> "you dare call yourself a fuckwad? down with those drawers, sirrah."
> <ghasp>
> "i meant it! now give me your CANE!"
> "yipe! YIPE!"
>
> oh man, this is going to be great. it's the brass ring at last.

Did you read about Elton John getting mad at the reporters and caling
them "fuckwits"?
First time I heard that; maybe its brit, or maybe it was Elton's way
with words.

Blowhot Fuckwit, an associate of Blowhard Fuckwad?

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

>>You may even learn to ignore it, given that everyone is entitled to an
>>opinion and I have no
>> wish to deny them that, and just appreciate what Ilya offers you on a
>> personal
>> level. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Rhi

> he only bothers me ,
> when he changes names ,
> to trick me into reading ,
> something i might skip by ,
> if i knew it was him

Yes, there is that, and I do understand why that bothers some people.

--
Rhi

"Boo!shka" <carollombard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> cal wrote:
>> "Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
>> newsan.2006.10.09.21.15.17.482435@you.now...
>> > On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:03:19 -0700, - wrote:
>> >
>> >> In many minds today there exists this error:
>> >>
>> >> Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
>> >> while ignoring all else that reality is.
>> >>
>> >> http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
>> >> Ilya Shambat.
>> >
>> > The only true reality is that you're a name shifting fuckwad. Stay in
>> > my
>> > killfile you obnoxious blowhard.
>>
>> wow. perfect name for the hero of my next erotic film script.
>> blowhard fuckwad.
>>
>> i just hope it doesn't sound too "preppy".
>> hmm.
>> "first-born son of self-made industrialist bernhard x. fuckwad and heir
>> to
>> the fuckwad billions."
>> m hm.
>>
>> from the trailers:
>>
>> "oh, blowhard..."
>> "silence, wench."
>> "i want you to sire my babies."
>> <wap slap>
>> "silence, i say."
>>
>> "good morning, pater."
>> "you scoundrel."
>> <wap slap>
>> "you dare call yourself a fuckwad? down with those drawers, sirrah."
>> <ghasp>
>> "i meant it! now give me your CANE!"
>> "yipe! YIPE!"
>>
>> oh man, this is going to be great. it's the brass ring at last.
>
> Did you read about Elton John getting mad at the reporters and caling
> them "fuckwits"?
> First time I heard that; maybe its brit, or maybe it was Elton's way
> with words.
>
> Blowhot Fuckwit, an associate of Blowhard Fuckwad?
>
jesus
you guys are tooooooooo funny

"the same" <iggy714@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> life is like a box of chocolates...u will never know what u r gonna
> get...the same

thats no shit

the Sun that is the giver of all life on earth" is not reality -it's
false and erroneous.

The sun is commissioned to be of service to our world by the Creator,
who fashioned it, set it in the sky, named it and filled it with its
energy, the same Creator, Source that is in fact the giver of all life
on earth, and there is none above, below or beside Him and there will
never be as there never was before. That reality is the Truth and the
foundation for all reality.

Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all the
rest will follow.
c
- wrote:
> In many minds today there exists this error:
>
> Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
> while ignoring all else that reality is.
>
> What am I talking about? In the words of one poster, "Reality is paying
>
> one's bills." The issue of paying or not paying of bills aside, what
> truly is reality?
>
> Reality is the Sun that is the giver of all life on earth. Reality is
> the planet on which we live. Reality is all that exists in nature and
> in humanity. So how can it be identified so narrowly with something
> that is simply an adaptation, and one out of many that has existed in
> history?
>
> This is not a rightful attitude, nor is it an innocent one. Inability
> to see beyond the adaptation leads people to make hideous errors. It
> leads them, in effect, to discount all else that is reality besides
> their adaptation. Thus, it leads people who make this error to run
> roughshod over the planet and completely deny the damage that's done to
>
> the planet and all that lives on it. It leads people who make this
> error to completely devalue all things for which the adaptation does
> not see immediate utility, no matter how precious or beautiful those
> things in themselves are. It leads people who make this error to see
> nothing in people except what can be used, temporarily, by the
> adaptation, while completely discounting all else of which people are
> capable - and all else that they can accomplish.
>
> The people who participate in this adaptation refer to the dissidents
> from them as being arrogant or stupid. There is nothing more stupid and
>
> arrogant than usurping reality from the cosmos and believing that one
> adaptation, by some people, at some point in history, is the whole of
> reality - and Milky Way, Sistine Chapel, and the Yosemite National
> Forest are not. Quite simply, this is an outrageous case of deliberate
> ignorance; and it profits many to recognize not only that adaptation is
>
> not the whole of reality, but that in identifying it as such people are
>
> blinded to all else that is real, whether it be in the nature around
> them or in the things that people can create.
>
> So to the people who are struggling with the idea that having a
> different perspective than that of this adaptation makes them not
> adjusted to live in reality: Reality is far greater than that of this
> or any other historical adaptation, and it is by seeing beyond one or
> another adaptation and toward reality as a whole they acquire a far
> more complete view of reality, and one that being more complete is
> capable of producing far more precise and far more benificent results.
>
> http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
> Ilya Shambat.

Sorry to have crossed-posted. That will not happen again.
Promise.


cherish wrote:
> the Sun that is the giver of all life on earth" is not reality -it's
> false and erroneous.
>
> The sun is commissioned to be of service to our world by the Creator,
> who fashioned it, set it in the sky, named it and filled it with its
> energy, the same Creator, Source that is in fact the giver of all life
> on earth, and there is none above, below or beside Him and there will
> never be as there never was before. That reality is the Truth and the
> foundation for all reality.
>
> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all the
> rest will follow.
> c
> - wrote:
> > In many minds today there exists this error:
> >
> > Of identifying as reality what is in fact an adaptation to reality,
> > while ignoring all else that reality is.
> >
> > What am I talking about? In the words of one poster, "Reality is paying
> >
> > one's bills." The issue of paying or not paying of bills aside, what
> > truly is reality?
> >
> > Reality is the Sun that is the giver of all life on earth. Reality is
> > the planet on which we live. Reality is all that exists in nature and
> > in humanity. So how can it be identified so narrowly with something
> > that is simply an adaptation, and one out of many that has existed in
> > history?
> >
> > This is not a rightful attitude, nor is it an innocent one. Inability
> > to see beyond the adaptation leads people to make hideous errors. It
> > leads them, in effect, to discount all else that is reality besides
> > their adaptation. Thus, it leads people who make this error to run
> > roughshod over the planet and completely deny the damage that's done to
> >
> > the planet and all that lives on it. It leads people who make this
> > error to completely devalue all things for which the adaptation does
> > not see immediate utility, no matter how precious or beautiful those
> > things in themselves are. It leads people who make this error to see
> > nothing in people except what can be used, temporarily, by the
> > adaptation, while completely discounting all else of which people are
> > capable - and all else that they can accomplish.
> >
> > The people who participate in this adaptation refer to the dissidents
> > from them as being arrogant or stupid. There is nothing more stupid and
> >
> > arrogant than usurping reality from the cosmos and believing that one
> > adaptation, by some people, at some point in history, is the whole of
> > reality - and Milky Way, Sistine Chapel, and the Yosemite National
> > Forest are not. Quite simply, this is an outrageous case of deliberate
> > ignorance; and it profits many to recognize not only that adaptation is
> >
> > not the whole of reality, but that in identifying it as such people are
> >
> > blinded to all else that is real, whether it be in the nature around
> > them or in the things that people can create.
> >
> > So to the people who are struggling with the idea that having a
> > different perspective than that of this adaptation makes them not
> > adjusted to live in reality: Reality is far greater than that of this
> > or any other historical adaptation, and it is by seeing beyond one or
> > another adaptation and toward reality as a whole they acquire a far
> > more complete view of reality, and one that being more complete is
> > capable of producing far more precise and far more benificent results.
> >
> > http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
> > Ilya Shambat.

"cherish" <adamatova@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all the
> rest will follow.
> c

i'm freakin lost

"cherish" <adamatova@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry to have crossed-posted. That will not happen again.
> Promise.
>
>>
>> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all the
>> rest will follow.
>> c
>>
yeah well i'm still freakin' lost................

>>> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all the
>>> rest will follow.
>>>
> yeah well i'm still freakin' lost.

Just pretend you know what you're doing. It's amazing how many people get in
line behind you. Give it enough time and you'll even convince yourself that
you know what you're doing. Presto!

--
Charles E. Hardwidge

"Charles E Hardwidge" <nojunk@nojunk.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all the
>>>> rest will follow.
>>>>
>> yeah well i'm still freakin' lost.
>
> Just pretend you know what you're doing. It's amazing how many people get
> in line behind you. Give it enough time and you'll even convince yourself
> that you know what you're doing. Presto!
>
> --
> Charles E. Hardwidge
by gawd i suppose thats one way to do 'er

>>>>> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all the
>>>>> rest will follow.
>>>>>
>>> yeah well i'm still freakin' lost.
>>
>> Just pretend you know what you're doing. It's amazing how many people get
>> in line behind you. Give it enough time and you'll even convince yourself
>> that you know what you're doing. Presto!
>>
> by gawd i suppose thats one way to do 'er

Never look surprised when it pays off. It ruins the illusion. If you fail,
appear humble by forgiving your subordinates lack of wit and application to
the task. They will be so relieved not to feel the whip your star will rise
even further.

--
Charles E. Hardwidge

"Charles E Hardwidge" <nojunk@nojunk.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>>>> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all
>>>>>> the rest will follow.
>>>>>>
>>>> yeah well i'm still freakin' lost.
>>>
>>> Just pretend you know what you're doing. It's amazing how many people
>>> get in line behind you. Give it enough time and you'll even convince
>>> yourself that you know what you're doing. Presto!
>>>
>> by gawd i suppose thats one way to do 'er
>
> Never look surprised when it pays off. It ruins the illusion. If you fail,
> appear humble by forgiving your subordinates lack of wit and application
> to the task. They will be so relieved not to feel the whip your star will
> rise even further.
>
> --
> Charles E. Hardwidge
has this been your personal experience, by any chance?

"justabeing" <just.a.being@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Charles E Hardwidge" <nojunk@nojunk.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:kHbYg.35373$r61.24438@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>>>>>> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all
>>>>>>> the rest will follow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>> yeah well i'm still freakin' lost.
>>>>
>>>> Just pretend you know what you're doing. It's amazing how many people
>>>> get in line behind you. Give it enough time and you'll even convince
>>>> yourself that you know what you're doing. Presto!
>>>>
>>> by gawd i suppose thats one way to do 'er
>>
>> Never look surprised when it pays off. It ruins the illusion. If you
>> fail, appear humble by forgiving your subordinates lack of wit and
>> application to the task. They will be so relieved not to feel the whip
>> your star will rise even further.
>>
>> --
>> Charles E. Hardwidge
> has this been your personal experience, by any chance?
>
in essence, is what you're saying, "fake it til you make it"?

>>>>>>>> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all
>>>>>>>> the rest will follow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah well i'm still freakin' lost.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just pretend you know what you're doing. It's amazing how many people
>>>>> get in line behind you. Give it enough time and you'll even convince
>>>>> yourself that you know what you're doing. Presto!
>>>>>
>>>> by gawd i suppose thats one way to do 'er
>>>
>>> Never look surprised when it pays off. It ruins the illusion. If you
>>> fail, appear humble by forgiving your subordinates lack of wit and
>>> application to the task. They will be so relieved not to feel the whip
>>> your star will rise even further.
>>>
>> has this been your personal experience, by any chance?
>>
> in essence, is what you're saying, "fake it til you make it"?

Just making a satirical point.

One thing the British Army teaches is bullshit can get you in the door, but
once you're in you'd better perform. I've known people lie their way into
senior positions, and plenty of people get overlooked because they don't
have the smarm. Also, I've seen millions of pounds go down the drain because
qualified and authoritative figures believed their own bullshit and didn't
listen to people lower down the greasy pole.

Be prepared, that's all anyone can do.

--
Charles E. Hardwidge

"Charles E Hardwidge" <nojunk@nojunk.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>> Know from where you came from and to where you are heading and all
>>>>>>>>> the rest will follow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yeah well i'm still freakin' lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just pretend you know what you're doing. It's amazing how many people
>>>>>> get in line behind you. Give it enough time and you'll even convince
>>>>>> yourself that you know what you're doing. Presto!
>>>>>>
>>>>> by gawd i suppose thats one way to do 'er
>>>>
>>>> Never look surprised when it pays off. It ruins the illusion. If you
>>>> fail, appear humble by forgiving your subordinates lack of wit and
>>>> application to the task. They will be so relieved not to feel the whip
>>>> your star will rise even further.
>>>>
>>> has this been your personal experience, by any chance?
>>>
>> in essence, is what you're saying, "fake it til you make it"?
>
> Just making a satirical point.
>
> One thing the British Army teaches is bullshit can get you in the door,
> but
> once you're in you'd better perform. I've known people lie their way into
> senior positions, and plenty of people get overlooked because they don't
> have the smarm. Also, I've seen millions of pounds go down the drain
> because
> qualified and authoritative figures believed their own bullshit and didn't
> listen to people lower down the greasy pole.
>
> Be prepared, that's all anyone can do.
>
> --
> Charles E. Hardwidge
>

i've seen t