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Old 11-09-2006, 09:48 AM
Noon Cat Nick
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Dan wrote:

>It's been over a year since I've been out of the mental hospital and not one
>of my old friends/acquaintances has looked me up to see how I'm doing. This
>past year has been sheer hell for me and few know about and fewer seem to
>care. I find myself getting bitter over this.
>
>Don't tell me that they don't know. One of my enemies was right there when
>I was admitted and if she could have found out that fast, surely others
>could have found out by now. I wrote one a letter reaching out for help and
>I got absolutely no response at all. My therapist says I should write
>another but I doubt it'll result differently.
>
>To be fair, my situation isn't the easiest to deal with. Not only do I
>suffer from depression, but also from delusions. It would make anyone
>uncomfortable I suppose, but not one can call me or e-mail me or even call
>my therapist.
>
>I'm trying to change my life. I recently enrolled in school to get my
>certificate in bookkeeping and my therapist is excited about the change.
>But now until school starts I have nothing but time to think about my life
>and my failures and my deficiencies. I'm trying, but my self-doubt is too
>great to overcome. I think about ending it all, but I'm too scared of death
>to do it. I pray for guidance and a friend, but not much so far.
>
>I'm sorry.
>
>
>
>

One letter to one person in one year hardly constitutes an effort, I
hafta say. Don't assume that everyone in your sphere of acquaintances is
fully aware of what you've been through just because one person saw you
being admitted to the hospital. I know you didn't want anyone to tell
you they don't know what's happened with you. But I'm still betting most
of them don't. It's unrealistic to assume that they do. (Case in point:
My mother passed away 2 1/2 weeks ago. Her obituary was in all the local
papers. Yet, even after that, most people I know who live in my area
didn't know about it until I talked to them the following week.)

Just as you have to contact a pdoc's or therp's receptionist yourself to
make appointments to see them, you'll obviously have to contact your
friends and acquaintances to let them know what's been going on with
you. Then you might well also have to ask each one if it's all right if
you contact them from time to time, at least to have someone to talk to.
Yes, I know that in a better world neither you nor I nor anyone else
would have to resort to something like that. But in this vale of tears,
people assume you're doing okay if you don't personally let them know
that you've been having terrible problems.

Also, don't expect most (or any, for that matter) of them to know what
to say. Unless a person's been through themselves what you've been
enduring, or has been specifically schooled in dealing with persons such
as ourselves, they'll probably either be at a loss for words or say
downright stupid things and dole out insensitive advice in a
well-meaning but counterproductive attempt to help you.

It's up to you whether you decide to start contacting them or continue
to have them not contact you. Just don't assume they don't care or are
deliberately keeping their distance. More than likely, they just plain
don't know, I'd wager

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:49 AM
boutshka
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Noon Cat Nick wrote:
> Dan wrote:
>
> >It's been over a year since I've been out of the mental hospital and not one
> >of my old friends/acquaintances has looked me up to see how I'm doing. This
> >past year has been sheer hell for me and few know about and fewer seem to
> >care. I find myself getting bitter over this.
> >
> >Don't tell me that they don't know. One of my enemies was right there when
> >I was admitted and if she could have found out that fast, surely others
> >could have found out by now. I wrote one a letter reaching out for help and
> >I got absolutely no response at all. My therapist says I should write
> >another but I doubt it'll result differently.
> >
> >To be fair, my situation isn't the easiest to deal with. Not only do I
> >suffer from depression, but also from delusions. It would make anyone
> >uncomfortable I suppose, but not one can call me or e-mail me or even call
> >my therapist.
> >
> >I'm trying to change my life. I recently enrolled in school to get my
> >certificate in bookkeeping and my therapist is excited about the change.
> >But now until school starts I have nothing but time to think about my life
> >and my failures and my deficiencies. I'm trying, but my self-doubt is too
> >great to overcome. I think about ending it all, but I'm too scared of death
> >to do it. I pray for guidance and a friend, but not much so far.
> >
> >I'm sorry.
> >
> >
> >
> >

> One letter to one person in one year hardly constitutes an effort, I
> hafta say. Don't assume that everyone in your sphere of acquaintances is
> fully aware of what you've been through just because one person saw you
> being admitted to the hospital. I know you didn't want anyone to tell
> you they don't know what's happened with you. But I'm still betting most
> of them don't. It's unrealistic to assume that they do. (Case in point:
> My mother passed away 2 1/2 weeks ago. Her obituary was in all the local
> papers. Yet, even after that, most people I know who live in my area
> didn't know about it until I talked to them the following week.)
>
> Just as you have to contact a pdoc's or therp's receptionist yourself to
> make appointments to see them, you'll obviously have to contact your
> friends and acquaintances to let them know what's been going on with
> you. Then you might well also have to ask each one if it's all right if
> you contact them from time to time, at least to have someone to talk to.
> Yes, I know that in a better world neither you nor I nor anyone else
> would have to resort to something like that. But in this vale of tears,
> people assume you're doing okay if you don't personally let them know
> that you've been having terrible problems.
>
> Also, don't expect most (or any, for that matter) of them to know what
> to say. Unless a person's been through themselves what you've been
> enduring, or has been specifically schooled in dealing with persons such
> as ourselves, they'll probably either be at a loss for words or say
> downright stupid things and dole out insensitive advice in a
> well-meaning but counterproductive attempt to help you.
>
> It's up to you whether you decide to start contacting them or continue
> to have them not contact you. Just don't assume they don't care or are
> deliberately keeping their distance. More than likely, they just plain
> don't know, I'd wager


Well put, Nooncatnick. that has been my experience. It's hard not to
take it personally. you have to remind yourself of the objective facts
and probabilities such as you stated.

Also, there's that thing about depression being contagious; that one
depressed person in a group can bring down the mood of the entire
group. If I'm down and I get with friends, I just try to listen and be
a friendly audience for them instead of interjecting my skewed
thoughts. Not sure how effective that is really. I just know my
friends aren't particularly interested in my company if i can't be
"up". Face it, they are all struggling with their own problems and
don't need someone to make it harder for them; they can't be
therapists; and if they were, they don't want to be therapists on their
own time; they want to enjoy life; and those are the kind of people
they will gravitate toward.

Also, i notice, people who are aware someone has a mental illness can
be quite uneasy about saying "the wrong thing" and setting off sick
behavior.

It can surely be very lonely sometimes. with only a therapist to accept
you.

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Old 11-09-2006, 10:06 AM
Dan
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I suppose you're right. I'm just terribly lonely right now. I need to
connect with someone, but I'm not sure who or how. The person I wrote to
said she wouldn't give up on me, but now, it seems that she has. I feel
abandoned and too scared to risk rejection again.

"boutshka" <carollombard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Noon Cat Nick wrote:
>> Dan wrote:
>>
>> >It's been over a year since I've been out of the mental hospital and not
>> >one
>> >of my old friends/acquaintances has looked me up to see how I'm doing.
>> >This
>> >past year has been sheer hell for me and few know about and fewer seem
>> >to
>> >care. I find myself getting bitter over this.
>> >
>> >Don't tell me that they don't know. One of my enemies was right there
>> >when
>> >I was admitted and if she could have found out that fast, surely others
>> >could have found out by now. I wrote one a letter reaching out for help
>> >and
>> >I got absolutely no response at all. My therapist says I should write
>> >another but I doubt it'll result differently.
>> >
>> >To be fair, my situation isn't the easiest to deal with. Not only do I
>> >suffer from depression, but also from delusions. It would make anyone
>> >uncomfortable I suppose, but not one can call me or e-mail me or even
>> >call
>> >my therapist.
>> >
>> >I'm trying to change my life. I recently enrolled in school to get my
>> >certificate in bookkeeping and my therapist is excited about the change.
>> >But now until school starts I have nothing but time to think about my
>> >life
>> >and my failures and my deficiencies. I'm trying, but my self-doubt is
>> >too
>> >great to overcome. I think about ending it all, but I'm too scared of
>> >death
>> >to do it. I pray for guidance and a friend, but not much so far.
>> >
>> >I'm sorry.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >

>> One letter to one person in one year hardly constitutes an effort, I
>> hafta say. Don't assume that everyone in your sphere of acquaintances is
>> fully aware of what you've been through just because one person saw you
>> being admitted to the hospital. I know you didn't want anyone to tell
>> you they don't know what's happened with you. But I'm still betting most
>> of them don't. It's unrealistic to assume that they do. (Case in point:
>> My mother passed away 2 1/2 weeks ago. Her obituary was in all the local
>> papers. Yet, even after that, most people I know who live in my area
>> didn't know about it until I talked to them the following week.)
>>
>> Just as you have to contact a pdoc's or therp's receptionist yourself to
>> make appointments to see them, you'll obviously have to contact your
>> friends and acquaintances to let them know what's been going on with
>> you. Then you might well also have to ask each one if it's all right if
>> you contact them from time to time, at least to have someone to talk to.
>> Yes, I know that in a better world neither you nor I nor anyone else
>> would have to resort to something like that. But in this vale of tears,
>> people assume you're doing okay if you don't personally let them know
>> that you've been having terrible problems.
>>
>> Also, don't expect most (or any, for that matter) of them to know what
>> to say. Unless a person's been through themselves what you've been
>> enduring, or has been specifically schooled in dealing with persons such
>> as ourselves, they'll probably either be at a loss for words or say
>> downright stupid things and dole out insensitive advice in a
>> well-meaning but counterproductive attempt to help you.
>>
>> It's up to you whether you decide to start contacting them or continue
>> to have them not contact you. Just don't assume they don't care or are
>> deliberately keeping their distance. More than likely, they just plain
>> don't know, I'd wager

>
> Well put, Nooncatnick. that has been my experience. It's hard not to
> take it personally. you have to remind yourself of the objective facts
> and probabilities such as you stated.
>
> Also, there's that thing about depression being contagious; that one
> depressed person in a group can bring down the mood of the entire
> group. If I'm down and I get with friends, I just try to listen and be
> a friendly audience for them instead of interjecting my skewed
> thoughts. Not sure how effective that is really. I just know my
> friends aren't particularly interested in my company if i can't be
> "up". Face it, they are all struggling with their own problems and
> don't need someone to make it harder for them; they can't be
> therapists; and if they were, they don't want to be therapists on their
> own time; they want to enjoy life; and those are the kind of people
> they will gravitate toward.
>
> Also, i notice, people who are aware someone has a mental illness can
> be quite uneasy about saying "the wrong thing" and setting off sick
> behavior.
>
> It can surely be very lonely sometimes. with only a therapist to accept
> you.
>



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