Re: Westboro Baptist Church

In message <pvjdi2ld4fc2m8vt07uvok3r8et67cc2mg@news.easynews. com>,
CyberDroog <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
>These are the people who where going to stage a protest at the funerals of
>the little Amish girls murdered last week. They planned to carry signs
>saying things such as "Your daughter's were whores and are in hell now."
>
>The protest never happened because they made a deal with Michael Reagan. In
>exchange for an hour of radio time on Reagan's show, they agreed to not
>intrude on the funerals.
>
>How ironic. It is the leaders of the Westboro Baptist church who are the
>media whores.
>
>Here's a thought. The entire congregation of the Westboro Baptist church, a
>wide open field with plenty of room for distant spectators, and a napalm
>cluster bomb.
>
>They believe they are the only ones going to heaven, so let's give them a
>head start to meet Jesus.
>
>A man can dream.
>
>Yes, I know, it's free speech and all that. But as Robert Heinlein put it,
>"Certain types of loudmouthism should be a capital offense."
>
I wonder if there's anyone they don't hate. Maybe we should try them on
millipede lovers.

--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?

Alan Harding wrote:

> In message <pvjdi2ld4fc2m8vt07uvok3r8et67cc2mg@news.easynews. com>,
> CyberDroog <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
>
>> These are the people who where going to stage a protest at the
>> funerals of
>> the little Amish girls murdered last week. They planned to carry signs
>> saying things such as "Your daughter's were whores and are in hell now."
>>
>> The protest never happened because they made a deal with Michael
>> Reagan. In
>> exchange for an hour of radio time on Reagan's show, they agreed to not
>> intrude on the funerals.
>>
>> How ironic. It is the leaders of the Westboro Baptist church who are the
>> media whores.
>>
>> Here's a thought. The entire congregation of the Westboro Baptist
>> church, a
>> wide open field with plenty of room for distant spectators, and a napalm
>> cluster bomb.
>>
>> They believe they are the only ones going to heaven, so let's give them a
>> head start to meet Jesus.
>>
>> A man can dream.
>>
>> Yes, I know, it's free speech and all that. But as Robert Heinlein
>> put it,
>> "Certain types of loudmouthism should be a capital offense."
>>
> I wonder if there's anyone they don't hate. Maybe we should try them
> on millipede lovers.
>
A/K/A millipedophiles (as I noted in another thread).

[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]

This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," October 3, 2006,
that has been edited for clarity.

ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Members of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka,
Kansas, have been protesting at military funerals since June of last
year carrying signs with anti-gay slogans. Yesterday, they announced
they were planning to protest the funerals of the Amish schoolgirls shot
to death to death in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, earlier this week, but
they have since changed their plans.

With us now from Westboro Baptist Church is Shirley Phelps-Roper.

You changed your plans because Mike Gallagher has offered you airtime on
his radio show, because you want to get your message out. What is that
message?

SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH: The message is that God
has put a standard in the earth. He expects his creatures to obey it. If
you obey, he'll bless you. If you don't, he'll curse you. America has
sent away her day of grace. America is doomed.

COLMES: You're giving me what sounds like a bunch of talking points. Why
would you cause more pain to this community, the Amish community, which,
if so not even involved in so much what is considered modern day and
these families who have suffered? Do you have any sense of how much
additional pain you would be causing these families by protesting at the
funeral of these young girls?

PHELPS-ROPER: There isn't any way to fix that situation for them. It's
not going to be any less painful if we are there or aren't there. They
did that to themselves. And you say they're not involved.

COLMES: What do you mean they did that to themselves?

PHELPS-ROPER: I mean, they sit over to there and create their own form
of righteousness, instead of...

COLMES: Did those girls deserve to be killed?

PHELPS-ROPER: Well, they did get killed, and they did that. Who controls
the hearts of men? It was at the hand of an angry God those girls are dead.

COLMES: Did they deserve to die?

PHELPS-ROPER: They did deserve to die.

COLMES: How you can possibly make a statement like that?

PHELPS-ROPER: Because that's exactly what happened, and it happened at
the hand of the Lord your God.

COLMES: How can you possibly say that — how can you possibly say that
young girls who have done nothing wrong, who are innocent, who are just
a few years old, who have never sinned, who have never done anything,
deserve to die? How could you possibly make a statement like that?

PHELPS-ROPER: You told me that you serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob who says that when Adam sinned all sinned. There are no innocent
human beings. And the parents...

COLMES: You know, you protest funerals of soldiers. You protest funerals
of anybody who seems — dies under any circumstances. Anybody who is not
a member of your church is a sinner and is hated by God.

PHELPS-ROPER: Don't go to — anyone who is not — if you don't serve God…

COLMES: Who serves God besides people in your church?

PHELPS-ROPER: Well, you tell me. I don't see anyone on the landscape in
America.

COLMES: Nobody except people in your church, which is basically your
family. A few hundred members of your family are the only people on
earth who serve God, and everybody else deserves to die?

PHELPS-ROPER: You need to get out on these streets and warn your
neighbors that your sin is taking him to hell, fulfilling the royal law
to love your neighbor as yourself.

SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Shirley, you really are a sick woman. You are a sick.

PHELPS-ROPER: Slight cold but thank you.

HANNITY: Twisted human being. Where is your soul that you come on the
air and as young innocent girls are going to die and you're going to —
you're going to open up the family's wound and pour salt on it? Where is
your heart? Where is your soul? Where's your compassion? Where's your love?

PHELPS-ROPER: Our message is for the living, and that is the only loving
thing to do.

HANNITY: What about the living families that lost their daughter?

PHELPS-ROPER: They did that to themselves.

HANNITY: No, because some animal killed them in cold blood. The families
didn't do it.

PHELPS-ROPER: Who controls the hearts of men?

HANNITY: Do you sin? Did you ever commit adultery? Did you ever sin?

PHELPS-ROPER: Of course not.

HANNITY: Did you ever lust in your heart? Did you ever get angry? Did
you ever sin?

PHELPS-ROPER: And that — you've got the deck chairs on the Titanic.

HANNITY: Have you ever sinned, Miss Perfect here?

PHELPS-ROPER: Of course, you know that I have sinned, and that's not the
point.

HANNITY: You have. So you're a sinner. When you die, would you deserve
to die?

PHELPS-ROPER: Well, of course all of us deserve to die. But I'm not the
one who did die and my message is for those living people who brought
that pain upon themselves.

HANNITY: This is what I see about you, Shirley.

PHELPS-ROPER: They need to obey the commandments of the Lord their God.

HANNITY: Your entire life is — is now sort of focused on bringing pain
to other people: The families of innocent girls who died. The families
of innocent soldiers who died. God hates fags, is what…

PHELPS-ROPER: Innocent? Throw that word around. It has no definition
when you get done with it.

HANNITY: More innocent than you. They didn't sin like you admit you sinned.

PHELPS-ROPER: Those children...

HANNITY: What did they do?

PHELPS-ROPER: ... those children were killed at the hands of a raging
mad God to punish those families, to punish the state of Pennsylvania,
because you've got a governor in that state got on FOX News and
lambasted us because we serve God.

HANNITY: And you want to do — and you want to...

PHELPS-ROPER: And then you've got those people in Pennsylvania who think
they can sue us and fix this problem?

HANNITY: Because you — hang on a second. Because you didn't like Ed
Rendell and what he said, you're now going to protest at the funerals to
bring pains to the families?

PHELPS-ROPER: To connect the dots. To connect the dots from point A,
your filthy manner of life and your rebellion against God...

HANNITY: What are your sins, Miss Perfect?

PHELPS-ROPER: ... and conduct against the servants of God, to point B,
the dead children.

HANNITY: I want to know what your sins are.

PHELPS-ROPER: I'm not going to talk to you about any such thing. I don't
glory in my shame like you seem to want to do.

HANNITY: No, I just find this amazing that everyone else is a big sinner
but you, and you admit to being a sinner.

PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the Lord your God.

HANNITY: Which ones did you break?

PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the Lord your God. You don't fix
this by saying two wrongs make a right. That's what you seem to be saying.

HANNITY: No, but...

PHELPS-ROPER: That you may not say what God requires of you. If you
don't, what?

HANNITY: You know what I'm saying? I'm speaking to our audience beyond
you because you're brain dead. What I'm saying to you is you are a
soulless, thoughtless, mean...

PHELPS-ROPER: Thoughtless?

HANNITY: ... mean, human being.

PHELPS-ROPER: Thoughtless? We go out here year after year after year on
our own to warn this nation that if you obey God he'll bless you. Why
don't you just try it?

HANNITY: Now listen very closely.

PHELPS-ROPER: Just try it.

HANNITY: Listen to what I'm saying.

PHELPS-ROPER: Just try it.

HANNITY: Here's what I'm trying to tell you.

PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the Lord your God.

HANNITY: OK, I got that.

PHELPS-ROPER: And get his blessings.

HANNITY: Now you spoke.

PHELPS-ROPER: There is only one remedy.

HANNITY: Now you listen to me. Here's what your remedy is.

PHELPS-ROPER: You repent like the men of Nineveh or you, this nation is
doomed. You think it's bad so far, you're going to find bodies stacked
up so that you can't even bury them.

HANNITY: You — you are a religious nut.

PHELPS-ROPER: Then you will obey.

HANNITY: You are a religious...

COLMES: We've got to run. Do you deserve to die, too?

PHELPS-ROPER: All of us do. Every one of us.

COLMES: God is going to smite you at some point?

PHELPS-ROPER: No, I said we all deserve to die, but the mercy of God to
his people that serve him is what prevails.

COLMES: I can't even — I can't even — we've got to take a break. I can't
get mad at you, because you're so pathetic.

PHELPS-ROPER: Look, honey...

COLMES: And what you're saying is so horrible and mean-spirited.

PHELPS-ROPER: You can do that and call me names. It doesn't fix it. You
have got the wrath of God pouring out on your head. You need to fix that
by obeying.

COLMES: Thank you for the lecture.

PHELPS-ROPER: Repent like the men of Nineveh.

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Noon Cat Nick wrote:
> [N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
> yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]


{snip}

Oi.

There are some people who are beyond any reach of hope. They are either
just hopelessly mentall ill, evil, or some combo of both. The only
difference between this pathetic little weenies and Zarqawi is that they
haven't actually dragged the saw across a neck yet, as far as we know.

In article <4528A2E0.8050102@comcast.net>,
Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:

> There are some people who are beyond any reach of hope. They are
> either just hopelessly mentally ill, evil, or some combo of both.
> The only difference between this pathetic little weenies and Zarqawi
> is that they haven't actually dragged the saw across a neck yet, as
> far as we know.

I'm not sure a "protest" at a murdered boy's funeral with signs about
how he's burning in hell feels a whole lot different from a saw across
the neck to his parents. I can actually make a lot more sense of the
actions of someone like Zarqawi than I can of those of Fred Phelps.
Zarqawi's atrocities are at least committed as acts of opposition to an
invading military force. Phelps targets the innocent grieving families
of innocent victims of violent crime, and with a zest and delight I
doubt even Zarqawi was capable of.

Fred Phelps and Family are as vile a perversion as anything produced in
human history. I hope something terrible happens to Fred Phelps. But if
not, he'll be dead soon enough, even if his death isn't slow and
agonizing, and that day should be proclaimed an international holiday.

Mark

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RGB wrote:
> In article <4528A2E0.8050102@comcast.net>,
> Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>There are some people who are beyond any reach of hope. They are
>>either just hopelessly mentally ill, evil, or some combo of both.
>>The only difference between this pathetic little weenies and Zarqawi
>>is that they haven't actually dragged the saw across a neck yet, as
>>far as we know.
>
>
> I'm not sure a "protest" at a murdered boy's funeral with signs about
> how he's burning in hell feels a whole lot different from a saw across
> the neck to his parents. I can actually make a lot more sense of the
> actions of someone like Zarqawi than I can of those of Fred Phelps.
> Zarqawi's atrocities are at least committed as acts of opposition to an
> invading military force. Phelps targets the innocent grieving families
> of innocent victims of violent crime, and with a zest and delight I
> doubt even Zarqawi was capable of.

That's why I said the only difference is that they haven't done the
physical sawing. i.e. they're both reprehensible thugs.

Zarqawi was not a native Iraqi fighting US occupation, he was a foreign
jihadist, going back to the late 80's. He also did time for drugs and
sexual assault, before he um, found religion. He was, in other words, a
serious POS.

> Fred Phelps and Family are as vile a perversion as anything produced in
> human history. I hope something terrible happens to Fred Phelps. But if
> not, he'll be dead soon enough, even if his death isn't slow and
> agonizing, and that day should be proclaimed an international holiday.

He's a serious POS alright. Not many would mourn his loss, true dat.

In message <pD3Wg.397859$Jn2.12128@fe10.news.easynews.com>, RGB
<mark022806-asd@yahoo.com> writes
>
>Fred Phelps and Family are as vile a perversion as anything produced in
>human history. I hope something terrible happens to Fred Phelps. But if
>not, he'll be dead soon enough, even if his death isn't slow and
>agonizing, and that day should be proclaimed an international holiday.

I'd heard of his group's activities even over here. They don't fit any
kind of Christian I've heard of, but I'm not an expert on the lunatic
fringes of the faith. I wonder if anyone's considered another Waco.

--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?

In message <45288601.6040603@hotmail.com>, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> writes
>[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
>yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>
>This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," October 3, 2006,
>that has been edited for clarity.
>
>ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Members of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka,
>Kansas, have been protesting at military funerals since June of last
>year carrying signs with anti-gay slogans. Yesterday, they announced
>they were planning to protest the funerals of the Amish schoolgirls
>shot to death to death in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, earlier this week,
>but they have since changed their plans.
>
>With us now from Westboro Baptist Church is Shirley Phelps-Roper.
>
>You changed your plans because Mike Gallagher has offered you airtime
>on his radio show, because you want to get your message out. What is
>that message?
>
>SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH: The message is that God
>has put a standard in the earth. He expects his creatures to obey it.
>If you obey, he'll bless you. If you don't, he'll curse you. America
>has sent away her day of grace. America is doomed.
>
>COLMES: You're giving me what sounds like a bunch of talking points.
>Why would you cause more pain to this community, the Amish community,
>which, if so not even involved in so much what is considered modern day
>and these families who have suffered? Do you have any sense of how much
>additional pain you would be causing these families by protesting at
>the funeral of these young girls?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: There isn't any way to fix that situation for them. It's
>not going to be any less painful if we are there or aren't there. They
>did that to themselves. And you say they're not involved.
>
>COLMES: What do you mean they did that to themselves?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: I mean, they sit over to there and create their own form
>of righteousness, instead of...
>
>COLMES: Did those girls deserve to be killed?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Well, they did get killed, and they did that. Who
>controls the hearts of men? It was at the hand of an angry God those
>girls are dead.
>
>COLMES: Did they deserve to die?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: They did deserve to die.
>
>COLMES: How you can possibly make a statement like that?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Because that's exactly what happened, and it happened at
>the hand of the Lord your God.
>
>COLMES: How can you possibly say that — how can you possibly say that
>young girls who have done nothing wrong, who are innocent, who are just
>a few years old, who have never sinned, who have never done anything,
>deserve to die? How could you possibly make a statement like that?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: You told me that you serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and
>Jacob who says that when Adam sinned all sinned. There are no innocent
>human beings. And the parents...
>
>COLMES: You know, you protest funerals of soldiers. You protest
>funerals of anybody who seems — dies under any circumstances. Anybody
>who is not a member of your church is a sinner and is hated by God.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Don't go to — anyone who is not — if you don't serve God…
>
>COLMES: Who serves God besides people in your church?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Well, you tell me. I don't see anyone on the landscape in
>America.
>
>COLMES: Nobody except people in your church, which is basically your
>family. A few hundred members of your family are the only people on
>earth who serve God, and everybody else deserves to die?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: You need to get out on these streets and warn your
>neighbors that your sin is taking him to hell, fulfilling the royal law
>to love your neighbor as yourself.
>
>SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Shirley, you really are a sick woman. You are a sick.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Slight cold but thank you.
>
>HANNITY: Twisted human being. Where is your soul that you come on the
>air and as young innocent girls are going to die and you're going to —
>you're going to open up the family's wound and pour salt on it? Where
>is your heart? Where is your soul? Where's your compassion? Where's
>your love?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Our message is for the living, and that is the only
>loving thing to do.
>
>HANNITY: What about the living families that lost their daughter?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: They did that to themselves.
>
>HANNITY: No, because some animal killed them in cold blood. The
>families didn't do it.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Who controls the hearts of men?
>
>HANNITY: Do you sin? Did you ever commit adultery? Did you ever sin?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Of course not.
>
>HANNITY: Did you ever lust in your heart? Did you ever get angry? Did
>you ever sin?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: And that — you've got the deck chairs on the Titanic.
>
>HANNITY: Have you ever sinned, Miss Perfect here?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Of course, you know that I have sinned, and that's not
>the point.
>
>HANNITY: You have. So you're a sinner. When you die, would you deserve
>to die?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Well, of course all of us deserve to die. But I'm not the
>one who did die and my message is for those living people who brought
>that pain upon themselves.
>
>HANNITY: This is what I see about you, Shirley.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: They need to obey the commandments of the Lord their God.
>
>HANNITY: Your entire life is — is now sort of focused on bringing
>pain to other people: The families of innocent girls who died. The
>families of innocent soldiers who died. God hates fags, is what…
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Innocent? Throw that word around. It has no definition
>when you get done with it.
>
>HANNITY: More innocent than you. They didn't sin like you admit you sinned.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Those children...
>
>HANNITY: What did they do?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: ... those children were killed at the hands of a raging
>mad God to punish those families, to punish the state of Pennsylvania,
>because you've got a governor in that state got on FOX News and
>lambasted us because we serve God.
>
>HANNITY: And you want to do — and you want to...
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: And then you've got those people in Pennsylvania who
>think they can sue us and fix this problem?
>
>HANNITY: Because you — hang on a second. Because you didn't like Ed
>Rendell and what he said, you're now going to protest at the funerals
>to bring pains to the families?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: To connect the dots. To connect the dots from point A,
>your filthy manner of life and your rebellion against God...
>
>HANNITY: What are your sins, Miss Perfect?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: ... and conduct against the servants of God, to point B,
>the dead children.
>
>HANNITY: I want to know what your sins are.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: I'm not going to talk to you about any such thing. I
>don't glory in my shame like you seem to want to do.
>
>HANNITY: No, I just find this amazing that everyone else is a big
>sinner but you, and you admit to being a sinner.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the Lord your God.
>
>HANNITY: Which ones did you break?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the Lord your God. You don't fix
>this by saying two wrongs make a right. That's what you seem to be
>saying.
>
>HANNITY: No, but...
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: That you may not say what God requires of you. If you
>don't, what?
>
>HANNITY: You know what I'm saying? I'm speaking to our audience beyond
>you because you're brain dead. What I'm saying to you is you are a
>soulless, thoughtless, mean...
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Thoughtless?
>
>HANNITY: ... mean, human being.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Thoughtless? We go out here year after year after year on
>our own to warn this nation that if you obey God he'll bless you. Why
>don't you just try it?
>
>HANNITY: Now listen very closely.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Just try it.
>
>HANNITY: Listen to what I'm saying.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Just try it.
>
>HANNITY: Here's what I'm trying to tell you.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the Lord your God.
>
>HANNITY: OK, I got that.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: And get his blessings.
>
>HANNITY: Now you spoke.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: There is only one remedy.
>
>HANNITY: Now you listen to me. Here's what your remedy is.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: You repent like the men of Nineveh or you, this nation is
>doomed. You think it's bad so far, you're going to find bodies stacked
>up so that you can't even bury them.
>
>HANNITY: You — you are a religious nut.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Then you will obey.
>
>HANNITY: You are a religious...
>
>COLMES: We've got to run. Do you deserve to die, too?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: All of us do. Every one of us.
>
>COLMES: God is going to smite you at some point?
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: No, I said we all deserve to die, but the mercy of God to
>his people that serve him is what prevails.
>
>COLMES: I can't even — I can't even — we've got to take a break. I
>can't get mad at you, because you're so pathetic.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Look, honey...
>
>COLMES: And what you're saying is so horrible and mean-spirited.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: You can do that and call me names. It doesn't fix it. You
>have got the wrath of God pouring out on your head. You need to fix
>that by obeying.
>
>COLMES: Thank you for the lecture.
>
>PHELPS-ROPER: Repent like the men of Nineveh.
>
Am I allowed a gob-smacked 'Jesus'?

--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?

"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
> [N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
> yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>
> This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," October 3, 2006,
> that has been edited for clarity.
>
> ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Members of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka,
> Kansas, have been protesting at military funerals since June of last year
> carrying signs with anti-gay slogans. Yesterday, they announced they were
> planning to protest the funerals of the Amish schoolgirls shot to death to
> death in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, earlier this week, but they have since
> changed their plans.
>
> With us now from Westboro Baptist Church is Shirley Phelps-Roper.
>
> You changed your plans because Mike Gallagher has offered you airtime on
> his radio show, because you want to get your message out. What is that
> message?
>
> SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH: The message is that God has
> put a standard in the earth. He expects his creatures to obey it. If you
> obey, he'll bless you. If you don't, he'll curse you. America has sent
> away her day of grace. America is doomed.
>
> COLMES: You're giving me what sounds like a bunch of talking points. Why
> would you cause more pain to this community, the Amish community, which,
> if so not even involved in so much what is considered modern day and these
> families who have suffered? Do you have any sense of how much additional
> pain you would be causing these families by protesting at the funeral of
> these young girls?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: There isn't any way to fix that situation for them. It's not
> going to be any less painful if we are there or aren't there. They did
> that to themselves. And you say they're not involved.
>
> COLMES: What do you mean they did that to themselves?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: I mean, they sit over to there and create their own form of
> righteousness, instead of...
>
> COLMES: Did those girls deserve to be killed?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Well, they did get killed, and they did that. Who controls
> the hearts of men? It was at the hand of an angry God those girls are
> dead.
>
> COLMES: Did they deserve to die?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: They did deserve to die.
>
> COLMES: How you can possibly make a statement like that?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Because that's exactly what happened, and it happened at the
> hand of the Lord your God.
>
> COLMES: How can you possibly say that — how can you possibly say that
> young girls who have done nothing wrong, who are innocent, who are just a
> few years old, who have never sinned, who have never done anything,
> deserve to die? How could you possibly make a statement like that?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: You told me that you serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and
> Jacob who says that when Adam sinned all sinned. There are no innocent
> human beings. And the parents...
>
> COLMES: You know, you protest funerals of soldiers. You protest funerals
> of anybody who seems — dies under any circumstances. Anybody who is not a
> member of your church is a sinner and is hated by God.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Don't go to — anyone who is not — if you don't serve God…
>
> COLMES: Who serves God besides people in your church?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Well, you tell me. I don't see anyone on the landscape in
> America.
>
> COLMES: Nobody except people in your church, which is basically your
> family. A few hundred members of your family are the only people on earth
> who serve God, and everybody else deserves to die?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: You need to get out on these streets and warn your neighbors
> that your sin is taking him to hell, fulfilling the royal law to love your
> neighbor as yourself.
>
> SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Shirley, you really are a sick woman. You are a
> sick.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Slight cold but thank you.
>
> HANNITY: Twisted human being. Where is your soul that you come on the air
> and as young innocent girls are going to die and you're going to — you're
> going to open up the family's wound and pour salt on it? Where is your
> heart? Where is your soul? Where's your compassion? Where's your love?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Our message is for the living, and that is the only loving
> thing to do.
>
> HANNITY: What about the living families that lost their daughter?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: They did that to themselves.
>
> HANNITY: No, because some animal killed them in cold blood. The families
> didn't do it.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Who controls the hearts of men?
>
> HANNITY: Do you sin? Did you ever commit adultery? Did you ever sin?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Of course not.
>
> HANNITY: Did you ever lust in your heart? Did you ever get angry? Did you
> ever sin?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: And that — you've got the deck chairs on the Titanic.
>
> HANNITY: Have you ever sinned, Miss Perfect here?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Of course, you know that I have sinned, and that's not the
> point.
>
> HANNITY: You have. So you're a sinner. When you die, would you deserve to
> die?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Well, of course all of us deserve to die. But I'm not the
> one who did die and my message is for those living people who brought that
> pain upon themselves.
>
> HANNITY: This is what I see about you, Shirley.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: They need to obey the commandments of the Lord their God.
>
> HANNITY: Your entire life is — is now sort of focused on bringing pain to
> other people: The families of innocent girls who died. The families of
> innocent soldiers who died. God hates fags, is what…
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Innocent? Throw that word around. It has no definition when
> you get done with it.
>
> HANNITY: More innocent than you. They didn't sin like you admit you
> sinned.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Those children...
>
> HANNITY: What did they do?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: ... those children were killed at the hands of a raging mad
> God to punish those families, to punish the state of Pennsylvania, because
> you've got a governor in that state got on FOX News and lambasted us
> because we serve God.
>
> HANNITY: And you want to do — and you want to...
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: And then you've got those people in Pennsylvania who think
> they can sue us and fix this problem?
>
> HANNITY: Because you — hang on a second. Because you didn't like Ed
> Rendell and what he said, you're now going to protest at the funerals to
> bring pains to the families?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: To connect the dots. To connect the dots from point A, your
> filthy manner of life and your rebellion against God...
>
> HANNITY: What are your sins, Miss Perfect?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: ... and conduct against the servants of God, to point B, the
> dead children.
>
> HANNITY: I want to know what your sins are.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: I'm not going to talk to you about any such thing. I don't
> glory in my shame like you seem to want to do.
>
> HANNITY: No, I just find this amazing that everyone else is a big sinner
> but you, and you admit to being a sinner.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the Lord your God.
>
> HANNITY: Which ones did you break?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the Lord your God. You don't fix
> this by saying two wrongs make a right. That's what you seem to be saying.
>
> HANNITY: No, but...
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: That you may not say what God requires of you. If you don't,
> what?
>
> HANNITY: You know what I'm saying? I'm speaking to our audience beyond you
> because you're brain dead. What I'm saying to you is you are a soulless,
> thoughtless, mean...
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Thoughtless?
>
> HANNITY: ... mean, human being.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Thoughtless? We go out here year after year after year on
> our own to warn this nation that if you obey God he'll bless you. Why
> don't you just try it?
>
> HANNITY: Now listen very closely.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Just try it.
>
> HANNITY: Listen to what I'm saying.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Just try it.
>
> HANNITY: Here's what I'm trying to tell you.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Obey the commandments of the Lord your God.
>
> HANNITY: OK, I got that.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: And get his blessings.
>
> HANNITY: Now you spoke.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: There is only one remedy.
>
> HANNITY: Now you listen to me. Here's what your remedy is.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: You repent like the men of Nineveh or you, this nation is
> doomed. You think it's bad so far, you're going to find bodies stacked up
> so that you can't even bury them.
>
> HANNITY: You — you are a religious nut.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Then you will obey.
>
> HANNITY: You are a religious...
>
> COLMES: We've got to run. Do you deserve to die, too?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: All of us do. Every one of us.
>
> COLMES: God is going to smite you at some point?
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: No, I said we all deserve to die, but the mercy of God to
> his people that serve him is what prevails.
>
> COLMES: I can't even — I can't even — we've got to take a break. I can't
> get mad at you, because you're so pathetic.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Look, honey...
>
> COLMES: And what you're saying is so horrible and mean-spirited.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: You can do that and call me names. It doesn't fix it. You
> have got the wrath of God pouring out on your head. You need to fix that
> by obeying.
>
> COLMES: Thank you for the lecture.
>
> PHELPS-ROPER: Repent like the men of Nineveh.
>

So this is the group Marty/Rich gets some of his ideas from?
Huh .. he is lower then scum. Makes no sense to killfile him because he
will just change his e-mail name.
But I'm done with responding. He can wallow in his own millipede filth
alone from now on.

"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
> [N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
> yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]

absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview sums up
their entire message:

"Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
-- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH

this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's so much
of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new there, and i
don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else in the world.

"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:egb5r5$luv$1@news.datemas.de...
> "Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
>> [N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
>> yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>
> absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview sums
> up
> their entire message:
>
> "Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
> -- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
>
> this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's so
> much
> of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new there, and
> i
> don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else in the world.
>
sick and twisted shit has been around since the dawn of time, it simply
enjoys wearing many different masks and costumes.........preferably in the
Name of God

x-no-archive: yes

cal wrote:
> "Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
>
>>[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
>>yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>
>
> absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview sums up
> their entire message:
>
> "Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
> -- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
>
> this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's so much
> of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new there, and i
> don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else in the world.


Have you been living in a cave?

x-no-archive: yes

justabeing wrote:
> "cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
> news:egb5r5$luv$1@news.datemas.de...
>
>>"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
>>
>>>[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
>>>yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>>
>>absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview sums
>>up
>>their entire message:
>>
>>"Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
>>-- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
>>
>>this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's so
>>much
>>of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new there, and
>>i
>>don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else in the world.
>>
>
> sick and twisted shit has been around since the dawn of time, it simply
> enjoys wearing many different masks and costumes.........preferably in the
> Name of God


No, it only comes from white male Christian Americans, no where else.
If America and Christianity didn't exist, then the world would be paradise.

"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:45296509.20501@comcast.net...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> justabeing wrote:
>> "cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
>> news:egb5r5$luv$1@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>>"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
>>>
>>>>[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
>>>>yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>>>
>>>absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview sums
>>>up
>>>their entire message:
>>>
>>>"Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
>>>-- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
>>>
>>>this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's so
>>>much
>>>of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new there, and
>>>i
>>>don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else in the world.
>>>
>>
>> sick and twisted shit has been around since the dawn of time, it simply
>> enjoys wearing many different masks and costumes.........preferably in
>> the Name of God
>
>
> No, it only comes from white male Christian Americans, no where else. If
> America and Christianity didn't exist, then the world would be paradise.
>
............uh, ok, then

In message <45296509.20501@comcast.net>, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
writes
>justabeing wrote:
>> "cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
>>news:egb5r5$luv$1@news.datemas.de...
>>>"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
>>>
>>>>[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
>>>>yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>>>
>>>absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview
>>>sums up
>>>their entire message:
>>>
>>>"Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
>>>-- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
>>>
>>>this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's
>>>so much
>>>of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new there,
>>>and i
>>>don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else in the world.
>>>
>> sick and twisted shit has been around since the dawn of time, it
>>simply enjoys wearing many different masks and
>>costumes.........preferably in the Name of God
>
>No, it only comes from white male Christian Americans, no where else.
>If America and Christianity didn't exist, then the world would be
>paradise.

Clip! Clop! Clip! Clop! (Sound of Janithor on his hobby-horse again.)

--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?

"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:452964C4.50009@comcast.net...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> cal wrote:
>> "Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
>>
>>>[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
>>>yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>>
>>
>> absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview sums
>> up
>> their entire message:
>>
>> "Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
>> -- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
>>
>> this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's so
>> much
>> of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new there, and
>> i
>> don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else in the world.
>
> Have you been living in a cave?

well, there's lunatic islam i suppose. the two sides are well matched
ideologically, with sane americans and much of the rest of the world caught
in the middle.

"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:NcEFk6FUXXKFFwuJ@harding.demon.co.uk...
> In message <45296509.20501@comcast.net>, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
> writes
> >justabeing wrote:
> >> "cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:egb5r5$luv$1@news.datemas.de...
> >>>"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
> >>>
> >>>>[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
> >>>>yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
> >>>
> >>>absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview
> >>>sums up
> >>>their entire message:
> >>>
> >>>"Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
> >>>-- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
> >>>
> >>>this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's
> >>>so much
> >>>of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new there,
> >>>and i
> >>>don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else in the world.
> >>>
> >> sick and twisted shit has been around since the dawn of time, it
> >>simply enjoys wearing many different masks and
> >>costumes.........preferably in the Name of God
> >
> >No, it only comes from white male Christian Americans, no where else.
> >If America and Christianity didn't exist, then the world would be
> >paradise.
>
> Clip! Clop! Clip! Clop! (Sound of Janithor on his hobby-horse again.)
>
> --
> The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
> just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?



blah blah blah , its the Alan Show

On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 10:34:58 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:

>RGB wrote:
>> In article <4528A2E0.8050102@comcast.net>,
>> Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>There are some people who are beyond any reach of hope. They are
>>>either just hopelessly mentally ill, evil, or some combo of both.
>>>The only difference between this pathetic little weenies and Zarqawi
>>>is that they haven't actually dragged the saw across a neck yet, as
>>>far as we know.
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure a "protest" at a murdered boy's funeral with signs about
>> how he's burning in hell feels a whole lot different from a saw across
>> the neck to his parents. I can actually make a lot more sense of the
>> actions of someone like Zarqawi than I can of those of Fred Phelps.
>> Zarqawi's atrocities are at least committed as acts of opposition to an
>> invading military force. Phelps targets the innocent grieving families
>> of innocent victims of violent crime, and with a zest and delight I
>> doubt even Zarqawi was capable of.
>
>That's why I said the only difference is that they haven't done the
>physical sawing. i.e. they're both reprehensible thugs.
>
>Zarqawi was not a native Iraqi fighting US occupation, he was a foreign
>jihadist, going back to the late 80's. He also did time for drugs and
>sexual assault, before he um, found religion. He was, in other words, a
>serious POS.

Zarqawi and his ilk don't even have the courage to cut the heads off of
soldiers, unless the soldiers are already dead. They choose instead to go
after unarmed journalists and civilians contractors.

On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 13:03:49 +0100, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message <pD3Wg.397859$Jn2.12128@fe10.news.easynews.com>, RGB
><mark022806-asd@yahoo.com> writes
>>
>>Fred Phelps and Family are as vile a perversion as anything produced in
>>human history. I hope something terrible happens to Fred Phelps. But if
>>not, he'll be dead soon enough, even if his death isn't slow and
>>agonizing, and that day should be proclaimed an international holiday.
>
>I'd heard of his group's activities even over here. They don't fit any
>kind of Christian I've heard of, but I'm not an expert on the lunatic
>fringes of the faith. I wonder if anyone's considered another Waco.

After the first one, I suspect Bush would not authorize such an action. He
certainly wouldn't allow the BATF to invent the existence of a meth lab in
order to get military equipment.

On 2006-10-08, cal <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote:
> "Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:452964C4.50009@comcast.net...
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> cal wrote:
>>> "Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
>>>
>>>>[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
>>>>yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>>>
>>>
>>> absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview sums
>>> up
>>> their entire message:
>>>
>>> "Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
>>> -- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
>>>
>>> this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's so
>>> much
>>> of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new there, and
>>> i
>>> don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else in the world.
>>
>> Have you been living in a cave?
>
> well, there's lunatic islam i suppose. the two sides are well matched
> ideologically, with sane americans and much of the rest of the world caught
> in the middle.

I also think the dichotomy is between the Extremist Fundamentalists (of all
claimed faiths) and 'the rest of the world'. In 'the west', the EFs
mostly call themselves "Christian" and quote selectively from an obsolete
translation of the Old Testament and 'Revelation', neither of which they
understand at all. They are confronted by EFs calling themselves "Moslem"
or "Islami|c|ist" who use the Koran and Hadith with equivalent selectivity
and incomprehension. The Moslem EFs are more noticeable in some 'eastern'
countries, and in some they also rub up against EFs claiming allegiance to
other religions, notably Hinduism.

The western "Christian" EFs currently have command of more and better
weapons.

--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:crlpv3-4cc.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
> On 2006-10-08, cal <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote:
>> "Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:452964C4.50009@comcast.net...
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>
>>> cal wrote:
>>>> "Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:45288601.6040603@hotmail.com...
>>>>
>>>>>[N.B.: The below transcript was taken from www.foxnews.com. Enjoy
>>>>>yourselves, millipede devotees!--NCN]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> absolutely blood-curdling. to me, this one phrase from the interview
>>>> sums up their entire message:
>>>>
>>>> "Well, of course all of us deserve to die."
>>>> -- SHIRLEY PHELPS-ROPER, WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH
>>>>
>>>> this is the basis of all lunatic christianity. i wonder why there's so
>>>> much of this death-cult toxicity in america. it certainly isn't new
>>>> there, and i don't hear these terrible, sick voices from anywhere else
>>>> in the world.
>>>
>>> Have you been living in a cave?
>>
>> well, there's lunatic islam i suppose. the two sides are well matched
>> ideologically, with sane americans and much of the rest of the world
>> caught in the middle.
>
> I also think the dichotomy is between the Extremist Fundamentalists (of
> all claimed faiths) and 'the rest of the world'. In 'the west', the EFs
> mostly call themselves "Christian" and quote selectively from an obsolete
> translation of the Old Testament and 'Revelation', neither of which they
> understand at all. They are confronted by EFs calling themselves "Moslem"
> or "Islami|c|ist" who use the Koran and Hadith with equivalent selectivity
> and incomprehension. The Moslem EFs are more noticeable in some 'eastern'
> countries, and in some they also rub up against EFs claiming allegiance to
> other religions, notably Hinduism.

they're really all the same people, aren't they? we need to build a
selective biobomb, or herd them all onto remote islands in the pacific and
pop a nuke on them. no, i mean on paper target images of them. oh, you know
what i mean.