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Old 11-09-2006, 10:32 AM
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I used to look at one new one at least...
once a week. The zzz ZZZ Zoloft sort of
derailed that habit.


Some of them may be good, but just don't
apply, one by Yapko ( Breaking the Patterns
of Depression, IIRC) It does have a nice
cover, so I'm keeping it.

One can spend a long time trying to work
with a suggestion/program that doesn't fit.
I used to try not to thing about certain ppl
and events, without success. Nothing like
@R's but trying events, nonetheless.

Then I read Carnes' _ The Betrayal Bond _
It fit. And it used to be right here next
to the keyboard. Oh, here it is. I put it
down there when I typed up the Stevick quote.

"In trauma bonding the roles are so strong
you have to have help from people who care
about you and who know the real situation.
They can help debrief or *de-role* the victim
from the intensity of the bond."

This can be quite demanding on those who
are doing the supporting. The scenario
in which this was discussed had an ex-wife
whose raging, using/drinking lawyer ex-husband
was representing her relatives' company in
a case critical to their financial future.

I read these cases, and I say "well you (me)
are not that badly off" True or not, I often
wish I had ppl in Real Life (tm) who could
understand what my real situation has been.


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Old 11-09-2006, 10:33 AM
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"Contrarian" <adrba65@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I used to look at one new one at least...
> once a week. The zzz ZZZ Zoloft sort of
> derailed that habit.
>
>
> Some of them may be good, but just don't
> apply, one by Yapko ( Breaking the Patterns
> of Depression, IIRC) It does have a nice
> cover, so I'm keeping it.
>
> One can spend a long time trying to work
> with a suggestion/program that doesn't fit.
> I used to try not to thing about certain ppl
> and events, without success. Nothing like
> @R's but trying events, nonetheless.
>
> Then I read Carnes' _ The Betrayal Bond _
> It fit. And it used to be right here next
> to the keyboard. Oh, here it is. I put it
> down there when I typed up the Stevick quote.
>
> "In trauma bonding the roles are so strong
> you have to have help from people who care
> about you and who know the real situation.
> They can help debrief or *de-role* the victim
> from the intensity of the bond."
>
> This can be quite demanding on those who
> are doing the supporting. The scenario
> in which this was discussed had an ex-wife
> whose raging, using/drinking lawyer ex-husband
> was representing her relatives' company in
> a case critical to their financial future.
>
> I read these cases, and I say "well you (me)
> are not that badly off" True or not, I often
> wish I had ppl in Real Life (tm) who could
> understand what my real situation has been.
>


i found that they (self help books) all starting running together and pretty
much say the same thing. i think i've read them all. they just don't do
it for me like they used to. it's all the "same ole, same ole."

:/

hang in there, oh friend contrare!

~u2b


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Old 11-09-2006, 10:33 AM
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used2be <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:

> i found that they (self help books) all starting running together and pretty
> much say the same thing. i think i've read them all. they just don't do
> it for me like they used to. it's all the "same ole, same ole."



That's what I thought. But every now and then
one either learns one useful idea or, more rarely,
finds a book worth re-reading.
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