Taking a break

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Sorry, thought I was up for it, but I'm not unfortunately. If anyone
wants to run with the idea of the code-word please be my guest. I
still think it could be a very good idea for some people.

In fact, I hope that somebody might feel as strongly about it as I
still do, but can take the flack and fall-out a little bit better than
I can at this point in time.

Mark, I can see your point, (please read my reply) and it is not
because of your feed-back that I'm taking shelter. (just wanted you to
know this)

When I feel a bit more together I'll jump right back on in. I'll miss
your company and wish you all well.

G

--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~

yuluwirri@hotmail.com

In article <uub6j2109ce0tdi6i1brlgbprcg9rcoale@4ax.com>,
yuluwirri <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, thought I was up for it, but I'm not unfortunately. If anyone
> wants to run with the idea of the code-word please be my guest. I
> still think it could be a very good idea for some people.
>
> In fact, I hope that somebody might feel as strongly about it as I
> still do, but can take the flack and fall-out a little bit better than
> I can at this point in time.
>
> Mark, I can see your point, (please read my reply) and it is not
> because of your feed-back that I'm taking shelter. (just wanted you to
> know this)
>
> When I feel a bit more together I'll jump right back on in. I'll miss
> your company and wish you all well.

Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come on. I
really wish you could summon the strength to continue an open public
discussion of your idea evem if you might find people like me
disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem the hell with
"Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely anything, just fucking
ignore him. From what I've seen, I've disagreed but a number of others
think your idea is great. Come on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works,
it works, if not, you had the courage and creativity to try something
new, and I for one respect and admire you for that.

Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this, please.

Mark

RGB wrote:
> In article <uub6j2109ce0tdi6i1brlgbprcg9rcoale@4ax.com>,
> yuluwirri <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, thought I was up for it, but I'm not unfortunately. If anyone
> > wants to run with the idea of the code-word please be my guest. I
> > still think it could be a very good idea for some people.
> >
> > In fact, I hope that somebody might feel as strongly about it as I
> > still do, but can take the flack and fall-out a little bit better than
> > I can at this point in time.
> >
> > Mark, I can see your point, (please read my reply) and it is not
> > because of your feed-back that I'm taking shelter. (just wanted you to
> > know this)
> >
> > When I feel a bit more together I'll jump right back on in. I'll miss
> > your company and wish you all well.
>
> Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come on. I
> really wish you could summon the strength to continue an open public
> discussion of your idea evem if you might find people like me
> disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem the hell with
> "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely anything, just fucking
> ignore him. From what I've seen, I've disagreed but a number of others
> think your idea is great. Come on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works,
> it works, if not, you had the courage and creativity to try something
> new, and I for one respect and admire you for that.
>
> Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this, please.
>
> Mark
She is not running away, this is not a war , she is not a deserter .

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yuluwirri <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> wrote:


> When I feel a bit more together I'll jump right back on in. I'll miss
> your company and wish you all well.

hoping you feel "more together" soon

In article <1161008233.859790.108540@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote:

> > > Sorry, thought I was up for it, but I'm not unfortunately. If anyone
> > > wants to run with the idea of the code-word please be my guest. I
> > > still think it could be a very good idea for some people.
> > >
> > > In fact, I hope that somebody might feel as strongly about it as I
> > > still do, but can take the flack and fall-out a little bit better than
> > > I can at this point in time.
> > >
> > > Mark, I can see your point, (please read my reply) and it is not
> > > because of your feed-back that I'm taking shelter. (just wanted you to
> > > know this)
> > >
> > > When I feel a bit more together I'll jump right back on in. I'll miss
> > > your company and wish you all well.
> >
> > Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come on. I
> > really wish you could summon the strength to continue an open public
> > discussion of your idea even if you might find people like me
> > disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem, the hell with
> > "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely anything, just fucking
> > ignore him. From what I've seen, I've disagreed but a number of others
> > think your idea is great. Come on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works,
> > it works, if not, you had the courage and creativity to try something
> > new, and I for one respect and admire you for that.
> >
> > Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this, please.
>
> She is not running away, this is not a war , she is not a deserter .

That's right, this is not a war, she is not a deserter.

Mark

RGB wrote:
> In article <1161008233.859790.108540@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> "jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Sorry, thought I was up for it, but I'm not unfortunately. If anyone
> > > > wants to run with the idea of the code-word please be my guest. I
> > > > still think it could be a very good idea for some people.
> > > >
> > > > In fact, I hope that somebody might feel as strongly about it as I
> > > > still do, but can take the flack and fall-out a little bit better than
> > > > I can at this point in time.
> > > >
> > > > Mark, I can see your point, (please read my reply) and it is not
> > > > because of your feed-back that I'm taking shelter. (just wanted you to
> > > > know this)
> > > >
> > > > When I feel a bit more together I'll jump right back on in. I'll miss
> > > > your company and wish you all well.
> > >
> > > Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come on. I
> > > really wish you could summon the strength to continue an open public
> > > discussion of your idea even if you might find people like me
> > > disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem, the hell with
> > > "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely anything, just fucking
> > > ignore him. From what I've seen, I've disagreed but a number of others
> > > think your idea is great. Come on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works,
> > > it works, if not, you had the courage and creativity to try something
> > > new, and I for one respect and admire you for that.
> > >
> > > Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this, please.
> >
> > She is not running away, this is not a war , she is not a deserter .
>
> That's right, this is not a war, she is not a deserter.
>
> Mark
AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING AWAY

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jill wrote:

> > > > Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come on. I
> > > > really wish you could summon the strength to continue an open public
> > > > discussion of your idea even if you might find people like me
> > > > disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem, the hell with
> > > > "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely anything, just fucking
> > > > ignore him. From what I've seen, I've disagreed but a number of others
> > > > think your idea is great. Come on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works,
> > > > it works, if not, you had the courage and creativity to try something
> > > > new, and I for one respect and admire you for that.
> > > >
> > > > Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this, please.
> > >
> > > She is not running away, this is not a war , she is not a deserter .
> >
> > That's right, this is not a war, she is not a deserter.
> >
> AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING AWAY

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM? My post was 100% supportive of Grace and
she knows it. Call it running away or not, the fact is she's
withdrawing from the group because of some things that upset her, and I
was just urging her not to let one or two (or one) assholes get to her
to the point where she feels she has to leave. You seem to be trying to
turn my post into some kind of insult, and that's just ridiculous. Take
thou the Pill of Chilling and go enjoy a good cascade somewhere.

Mark

"RGB" <mark022806-asd@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161049151.923039.313220@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
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>
> jill wrote:
>
> > > > > Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come on.
I
> > > > > really wish you could summon the strength to continue an open
public
> > > > > discussion of your idea even if you might find people like me
> > > > > disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem, the hell with
> > > > > "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely anything, just fucking
> > > > > ignore him. From what I've seen, I've disagreed but a number of
others
> > > > > think your idea is great. Come on, Grace. Hang in there. If it
works,
> > > > > it works, if not, you had the courage and creativity to try
something
> > > > > new, and I for one respect and admire you for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this,
please.
> > > >
> > > > She is not running away, this is not a war , she is not a
deserter .
> > >
> > > That's right, this is not a war, she is not a deserter.
> > >
> > AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING AWAY
>
> WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM? My post was 100% supportive of Grace and
> she knows it. Call it running away or not, the fact is she's
> withdrawing from the group because of some things that upset her, and I
> was just urging her not to let one or two (or one) assholes get to her
> to the point where she feels she has to leave. You seem to be trying to
> turn my post into some kind of insult, and that's just ridiculous. Take
> thou the Pill of Chilling and go enjoy a good cascade somewhere.
>
> Mark
>


how the hell did my name get tangled into this

RGB wrote:
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>
> jill wrote:
>
> > > > > Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come on. I
> > > > > really wish you could summon the strength to continue an open public
> > > > > discussion of your idea even if you might find people like me
> > > > > disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem, the hell with
> > > > > "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely anything, just fucking
> > > > > ignore him. From what I've seen, I've disagreed but a number of others
> > > > > think your idea is great. Come on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works,
> > > > > it works, if not, you had the courage and creativity to try something
> > > > > new, and I for one respect and admire you for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this, please.
> > > >
> > > > She is not running away, this is not a war , she is not a deserter .
> > >
> > > That's right, this is not a war, she is not a deserter.
> > >
> > AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING AWAY
>
> WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM? My post was 100% supportive of Grace and
> she knows it. Call it running away or not, the fact is she's
> withdrawing from the group because of some things that upset her, and I
> was just urging her not to let one or two (or one) assholes get to her
> to the point where she feels she has to leave. You seem to be trying to
> turn my post into some kind of insult, and that's just ridiculous. Take
> thou the Pill of Chilling and go enjoy a good cascade somewhere.
>
> Mark
I don't have a problem.
You said she was running away. Making a decision to do something
and running away because you can't handle what is going on are two very
different things. You said she was running away. I don't agree. I
think she is making a decision to do what is best for her right now.

Now your trying to back away from what you said like you always do.
You are trying to play it like running away and withdrawing are the
same thing when we both know that is not true.
I am not trying to hurt you I just think this is an important
distinction . I know I but the hell out of you but I can't help it ,
thats just how it is, jill

Jill wrote (beginning with the quote of my original post):

>>>>>> Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come
>>>>>> on. I really wish you could summon the strength to continue an
>>>>>> open public discussion of your idea even if you might find
>>>>>> people like me disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem,
>>>>>> the hell with "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely
>>>>>> anything, just fucking ignore him. From what I've seen, I've
>>>>>> disagreed but a number of others think your idea is great. Come
>>>>>> on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works, it works, if not, you had
>>>>>> the courage and creativity to try something new, and I for one
>>>>>> respect and admire you for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this,
>>>>>> please.

(Enter the Jill)

>>>>> She is not running away, this is not a war, she is not a
>>>>> deserter.

>>>> That's right, this is not a war, she is not a deserter.

>>> AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING AWAY

>> WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM? My post was 100% supportive of Grace
>> and she knows it. Call it running away or not, the fact is she's
>> withdrawing from the group because of some things that upset her,
>> and I was just urging her not to let one or two (or one) assholes
>> get to her to the point where she feels she has to leave. You seem
>> to be trying to turn my post into some kind of insult, and that's
>> just ridiculous. Take thou the Pill of Chilling and go enjoy a good
>> cascade somewhere.
>
> I don't have a problem. You said she was running away. Making a
> decision to do something and running away because you can't handle
> what is going on are two very different things. You said she was
> running away. I don't agree. I think she is making a decision to do
> what is best for her right now.

Whatever.

> Now your trying to back away from what you said like you always do.
> You are trying to play it like running away and withdrawing are the
> same thing when we both know that is not true.

Oh for God's sake. My post is still up there, it says what it says and
what it says is completely obvious. Google it if that will help. I'm
not "backing away" from anything.

> I am not trying to hurt you I just think this is an important
> distinction. I know I [bug] the hell out of you but I can't help it,
> that's just how it is

The only "hurt" you're causing me is what comes from stifling the urge
to call you a complete moron. Again, you're trying to turn a purely
supportive post into some kind of insult, but you can't, because it
isn't. I saw your earlier "pro-daffodil" post so I suppose you're
trying to play some sort of "I'm more supportive of Grace than you"
game and it's just juvenile and not at all respectful of me or Grace.

Mark

RGB wrote:
> Jill wrote (beginning with the quote of my original post):
>
> >>>>>> Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come
> >>>>>> on. I really wish you could summon the strength to continue an
> >>>>>> open public discussion of your idea even if you might find
> >>>>>> people like me disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem,
> >>>>>> the hell with "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely
> >>>>>> anything, just fucking ignore him. From what I've seen, I've
> >>>>>> disagreed but a number of others think your idea is great. Come
> >>>>>> on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works, it works, if not, you had
> >>>>>> the courage and creativity to try something new, and I for one
> >>>>>> respect and admire you for that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this,
> >>>>>> please.
>
> (Enter the Jill)
>
> >>>>> She is not running away, this is not a war, she is not a
> >>>>> deserter.
>
> >>>> That's right, this is not a war, she is not a deserter.
>
> >>> AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING AWAY
>
> >> WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM? My post was 100% supportive of Grace
> >> and she knows it. Call it running away or not, the fact is she's
> >> withdrawing from the group because of some things that upset her,
> >> and I was just urging her not to let one or two (or one) assholes
> >> get to her to the point where she feels she has to leave. You seem
> >> to be trying to turn my post into some kind of insult, and that's
> >> just ridiculous. Take thou the Pill of Chilling and go enjoy a good
> >> cascade somewhere.
> >
> > I don't have a problem. You said she was running away. Making a
> > decision to do something and running away because you can't handle
> > what is going on are two very different things. You said she was
> > running away. I don't agree. I think she is making a decision to do
> > what is best for her right now.
>
> Whatever.
>
> > Now your trying to back away from what you said like you always do.
> > You are trying to play it like running away and withdrawing are the
> > same thing when we both know that is not true.
>
> Oh for God's sake. My post is still up there, it says what it says and
> what it says is completely obvious. Google it if that will help. I'm
> not "backing away" from anything.
>
> > I am not trying to hurt you I just think this is an important
> > distinction. I know I [bug] the hell out of you but I can't help it,
> > that's just how it is
>
> The only "hurt" you're causing me is what comes from stifling the urge
> to call you a complete moron. Again, you're trying to turn a purely
> supportive post into some kind of insult, but you can't, because it
> isn't. I saw your earlier "pro-daffodil" post so I suppose you're
> trying to play some sort of "I'm more supportive of Grace than you"
> game and it's just juvenile and not at all respectful of me or Grace.
>
> Mark
everything is a war with you. I hae a valid point which you are
completely ignoring. Instead you just want to call me a moron. fine
your right whatever. It says what it says and what it says is
completely obvious. what the hell does that even mean. So your
sticking by what you said before. that withdrawing and running away
are the same thing.? well they are not and thats a fact. I didn't
want this to get ugly. jeeezzz. I think the truth here is
completely obvious and I am so done .. jill

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Jill wrote:

> It says what it says and what it says is completely obvious.
> what the hell does that even mean[?]

It means that I wrote this:

>> Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come
>> on. I really wish you could summon the strength to continue an
>> open public discussion of your idea even if you might find
>> people like me disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem,
>> the hell with "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely
>> anything, just fucking ignore him. From what I've seen, I've
>> disagreed but a number of others think your idea is great. Come
>> on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works, it works, if not, you had
>> the courage and creativity to try something new, and I for one
>> respect and admire you for that.
>>
>> Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this,
>> please.

And it pretty obviously means this:

>> Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come
>> on. I really wish you could summon the strength to continue an
>> open public discussion of your idea even if you might find
>> people like me disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem,
>> the hell with "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely
>> anything, just fucking ignore him. From what I've seen, I've
>> disagreed but a number of others think your idea is great. Come
>> on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works, it works, if not, you had
>> the courage and creativity to try something new, and I for one
>> respect and admire you for that.
>>
>> Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this,
>> please.

Hope this helps,
Mark

jill wrote:
> RGB wrote:
> > Jill wrote (beginning with the quote of my original post):
> >
> > >>>>>> Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come
> > >>>>>> on. I really wish you could summon the strength to continue an
> > >>>>>> open public discussion of your idea even if you might find
> > >>>>>> people like me disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem,
> > >>>>>> the hell with "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely
> > >>>>>> anything, just fucking ignore him. From what I've seen, I've
> > >>>>>> disagreed but a number of others think your idea is great. Come
> > >>>>>> on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works, it works, if not, you had
> > >>>>>> the courage and creativity to try something new, and I for one
> > >>>>>> respect and admire you for that.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this,
> > >>>>>> please.
> >
> > (Enter the Jill)
> >
> > >>>>> She is not running away, this is not a war, she is not a
> > >>>>> deserter.
> >
> > >>>> That's right, this is not a war, she is not a deserter.
> >
> > >>> AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING AWAY
> >
> > >> WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM? My post was 100% supportive of Grace
> > >> and she knows it. Call it running away or not, the fact is she's
> > >> withdrawing from the group because of some things that upset her,
> > >> and I was just urging her not to let one or two (or one) assholes
> > >> get to her to the point where she feels she has to leave. You seem
> > >> to be trying to turn my post into some kind of insult, and that's
> > >> just ridiculous. Take thou the Pill of Chilling and go enjoy a good
> > >> cascade somewhere.
> > >
> > > I don't have a problem. You said she was running away. Making a
> > > decision to do something and running away because you can't handle
> > > what is going on are two very different things. You said she was
> > > running away. I don't agree. I think she is making a decision to do
> > > what is best for her right now.
> >
> > Whatever.
> >
> > > Now your trying to back away from what you said like you always do.
> > > You are trying to play it like running away and withdrawing are the
> > > same thing when we both know that is not true.
> >
> > Oh for God's sake. My post is still up there, it says what it says and
> > what it says is completely obvious. Google it if that will help. I'm
> > not "backing away" from anything.
> >
> > > I am not trying to hurt you I just think this is an important
> > > distinction. I know I [bug] the hell out of you but I can't help it,
> > > that's just how it is
> >
> > The only "hurt" you're causing me is what comes from stifling the urge
> > to call you a complete moron. Again, you're trying to turn a purely
> > supportive post into some kind of insult, but you can't, because it
> > isn't. I saw your earlier "pro-daffodil" post so I suppose you're
> > trying to play some sort of "I'm more supportive of Grace than you"
> > game and it's just juvenile and not at all respectful of me or Grace.
> >
> > Mark
> everything is a war with you. I hae a valid point which you are
> completely ignoring. Instead you just want to call me a moron. fine
> your right whatever. It says what it says and what it says is
> completely obvious. what the hell does that even mean. So your
> sticking by what you said before. that withdrawing and running away
> are the same thing.? well they are not and thats a fact. I didn't
> want this to get ugly. jeeezzz. I think the truth here is
> completely obvious and I am so done .. jill

all I ever wanted was to get you to recognize that runnning away and
making a decision to withdraw from a situation are not synonomous.
thats all.
all this crap about this being about who is more supportive of grace
is all in your head.
I was not questioning your intent. I do think you intended good
things for grace.
I think we should just agree that we will never agree on anything.
I wil stay out of your way and you can please stay out of mine. I
don't think even wikipedia can save you this time. jill

RGB wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> Jill wrote:
>
> > It says what it says and what it says is completely obvious.
> > what the hell does that even mean[?]
>
> It means that I wrote this:
>
> >> Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come
> >> on. I really wish you could summon the strength to continue an
> >> open public discussion of your idea even if you might find
> >> people like me disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem,
> >> the hell with "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely
> >> anything, just fucking ignore him. From what I've seen, I've
> >> disagreed but a number of others think your idea is great. Come
> >> on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works, it works, if not, you had
> >> the courage and creativity to try something new, and I for one
> >> respect and admire you for that.
> >>
> >> Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this,
> >> please.
>
> And it pretty obviously means this:
>
> >> Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come
> >> on. I really wish you could summon the strength to continue an
> >> open public discussion of your idea even if you might find
> >> people like me disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem,
> >> the hell with "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely
> >> anything, just fucking ignore him. From what I've seen, I've
> >> disagreed but a number of others think your idea is great. Come
> >> on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works, it works, if not, you had
> >> the courage and creativity to try something new, and I for one
> >> respect and admire you for that.
> >>
> >> Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this,
> >> please.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mark
Thats not an answer, say it with me mark ,, here goes. Running away
and withdrawing do not mean the same thing.. now see was that so hard.

"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> jill wrote:
> > RGB wrote:
> > > Jill wrote (beginning with the quote of my original post):
> > >
> > > >>>>>> Aw, Grace, I *really* wish you wouldn't do this. Please, come
> > > >>>>>> on. I really wish you could summon the strength to continue an
> > > >>>>>> open public discussion of your idea even if you might find
> > > >>>>>> people like me disagreeing. And to address one obvious problem,
> > > >>>>>> the hell with "Persent", he'll troll anything, absolutely
> > > >>>>>> anything, just fucking ignore him. From what I've seen, I've
> > > >>>>>> disagreed but a number of others think your idea is great. Come
> > > >>>>>> on, Grace. Hang in there. If it works, it works, if not, you
had
> > > >>>>>> the courage and creativity to try something new, and I for one
> > > >>>>>> respect and admire you for that.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Daffodil. Person to person, to you. Don't run away like this,
> > > >>>>>> please.
> > >
> > > (Enter the Jill)
> > >
> > > >>>>> She is not running away, this is not a war, she is not a
> > > >>>>> deserter.
> > >
> > > >>>> That's right, this is not a war, she is not a deserter.
> > >
> > > >>> AND SHE IS NOT RUNNING AWAY
> > >
> > > >> WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM? My post was 100% supportive of Grace
> > > >> and she knows it. Call it running away or not, the fact is she's
> > > >> withdrawing from the group because of some things that upset her,
> > > >> and I was just urging her not to let one or two (or one) assholes
> > > >> get to her to the point where she feels she has to leave. You seem
> > > >> to be trying to turn my post into some kind of insult, and that's
> > > >> just ridiculous. Take thou the Pill of Chilling and go enjoy a good
> > > >> cascade somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have a problem. You said she was running away. Making a
> > > > decision to do something and running away because you can't handle
> > > > what is going on are two very different things. You said she was
> > > > running away. I don't agree. I think she is making a decision to do
> > > > what is best for her right now.
> > >
> > > Whatever.
> > >
> > > > Now your trying to back away from what you said like you always do.
> > > > You are trying to play it like running away and withdrawing are the
> > > > same thing when we both know that is not true.
> > >
> > > Oh for God's sake. My post is still up there, it says what it says and
> > > what it says is completely obvious. Google it if that will help. I'm
> > > not "backing away" from anything.
> > >
> > > > I am not trying to hurt you I just think this is an important
> > > > distinction. I know I [bug] the hell out of you but I can't help it,
> > > > that's just how it is
> > >
> > > The only "hurt" you're causing me is what comes from stifling the urge
> > > to call you a complete moron. Again, you're trying to turn a purely
> > > supportive post into some kind of insult, but you can't, because it
> > > isn't. I saw your earlier "pro-daffodil" post so I suppose you're
> > > trying to play some sort of "I'm more supportive of Grace than you"
> > > game and it's just juvenile and not at all respectful of me or Grace.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > everything is a war with you. I hae a valid point which you are
> > completely ignoring. Instead you just want to call me a moron. fine
> > your right whatever. It says what it says and what it says is
> > completely obvious. what the hell does that even mean. So your
> > sticking by what you said before. that withdrawing and running away
> > are the same thing.? well they are not and thats a fact. I didn't
> > want this to get ugly. jeeezzz. I think the truth here is
> > completely obvious and I am so done .. jill
>
> all I ever wanted was to get you to recognize that runnning away and
> making a decision to withdraw from a situation are not synonomous.
> thats all.
> all this crap about this being about who is more supportive of grace
> is all in your head.
> I was not questioning your intent. I do think you intended good
> things for grace.
> I think we should just agree that we will never agree on anything.
> I wil stay out of your way and you can please stay out of mine. I
> don't think even wikipedia can save you this time. jill
>



hi Jill

Jill, do you have a PhD in Semantics?

a flame war between RGB and Jill. now i can leave the newsgroup, because i
have seen *everything*.

Gravity

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Gravity wrote:

> Jill, do you have a PhD in Semantics?
>
> a flame war between RGB and Jill. now i can leave the newsgroup, because i
> have seen *everything*.

Oh, no, Gravity! Don't you run away, too! =8^)

Mark

In article <1161107123.994907.327420@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups. com>,
"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote:

> Thats not an answer, say it with me mark ,, here goes. Running away
> and withdrawing do not mean the same thing.. now see was that so hard.

Can you say "blow it out your ass"?

Good!!!

I knew that you could.

Mark

In article <1161106831.627448.312710@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote:

> I do think you intended good things for grace.

Good.

Mark

RGB wrote:
> In article <1161107123.994907.327420@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups. com>,
> "jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Thats not an answer, say it with me mark ,, here goes. Running away
> > and withdrawing do not mean the same thing.. now see was that so hard.
>
> Can you say "blow it out your ass"?
>
> Good!!!
>
> I knew that you could.
>
> Mark
show me how I am wrong. present an argument that shows how I am wrong.
don't get vulgar and mudsling. Show me how I am wrong. I will
admit I am wrong. I am good at that. Just show me how I am wrong.
anybody can be vulgar , that doesn't mean you win.

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jill wrote:

> show me how I am wrong. present an argument that shows how I am wrong.
> don't get vulgar and mudsling. Show me how I am wrong. I will
> admit I am wrong. I am good at that. Just show me how I am wrong.
> anybody can be vulgar, that doesn't mean you win.

I have no interest in "winning". I have nothing to "lose". I have no
interest in trying to prove anything to or about you. I don't give a
flying fuck about how you think I should interpret the phrase "run
away" in this context. You injected your obnoxious little self into
this thread in response to a purely Grace-supportive post of mine,
making a ridiculous big stink about how you didn't like one phrase I
used, and all I care about at this point is making it crystally clear
that I think you're a complete ass for doing so. Now take your snitty
little glob of indignation and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Have a nice day.

Mark

"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1161132887.247033.169640@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> RGB wrote:
> > In article <1161107123.994907.327420@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups. com>,
> > "jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thats not an answer, say it with me mark ,, here goes. Running away
> > > and withdrawing do not mean the same thing.. now see was that so hard.
> >
> > Can you say "blow it out your ass"?
> >
> > Good!!!
> >
> > I knew that you could.
> >
> > Mark
> show me how I am wrong. present an argument that shows how I am wrong.
> don't get vulgar and mudsling. Show me how I am wrong. I will
> admit I am wrong. I am good at that. Just show me how I am wrong.
> anybody can be vulgar , that doesn't mean you win.
>


lol , yea that'll happen

RGB wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> jill wrote:
>
> > show me how I am wrong. present an argument that shows how I am wrong.
> > don't get vulgar and mudsling. Show me how I am wrong. I will
> > admit I am wrong. I am good at that. Just show me how I am wrong.
> > anybody can be vulgar, that doesn't mean you win.
>
> I have no interest in "winning". I have nothing to "lose". I have no
> interest in trying to prove anything to or about you. I don't give a
> flying fuck about how you think I should interpret the phrase "run
> away" in this context. You injected your obnoxious little self into
> this thread in response to a purely Grace-supportive post of mine,
> making a ridiculous big stink about how you didn't like one phrase I
> used, and all I care about at this point is making it crystally clear
> that I think you're a complete ass for doing so. Now take your snitty
> little glob of indignation and stick it where the sun don't shine.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> Mark
Thats the interesting thing about the term run away. It pretty much
means the same thing no matter where you put it. It is not subject
to much interpetation.

jill wrote:
> RGB wrote:
> > X-No-Archive: yes
> >
> > jill wrote:
> >
> > > show me how I am wrong. present an argument that shows how I am wrong.
> > > don't get vulgar and mudsling. Show me how I am wrong. I will
> > > admit I am wrong. I am good at that. Just show me how I am wrong.
> > > anybody can be vulgar, that doesn't mean you win.
> >
> > I have no interest in "winning". I have nothing to "lose". I have no
> > interest in trying to prove anything to or about you. I don't give a
> > flying fuck about how you think I should interpret the phrase "run
> > away" in this context. You injected your obnoxious little self into
> > this thread in response to a purely Grace-supportive post of mine,
> > making a ridiculous big stink about how you didn't like one phrase I
> > used, and all I care about at this point is making it crystally clear
> > that I think you're a complete ass for doing so. Now take your snitty
> > little glob of indignation and stick it where the sun don't shine.
> >
> > Have a nice day.
> >
> > Mark
> Thats the interesting thing about the term run away. It pretty much
> means the same thing no matter where you put it. It is not subject
> to much interpetation.
This my last word on this , I need to let it go I can't get thru
to you.
you just get mad. jill

"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1161194473.641064.308690@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> jill wrote:
> > RGB wrote:
> > > X-No-Archive: yes
> > >
> > > jill wrote:
> > >
> > > > show me how I am wrong. present an argument that shows how I am
wrong.
> > > > don't get vulgar and mudsling. Show me how I am wrong. I will
> > > > admit I am wrong. I am good at that. Just show me how I am wrong.
> > > > anybody can be vulgar, that doesn't mean you win.
> > >
> > > I have no interest in "winning". I have nothing to "lose". I have no
> > > interest in trying to prove anything to or about you. I don't give a
> > > flying fuck about how you think I should interpret the phrase "run
> > > away" in this context. You injected your obnoxious little self into
> > > this thread in response to a purely Grace-supportive post of mine,
> > > making a ridiculous big stink about how you didn't like one phrase I
> > > used, and all I care about at this point is making it crystally clear
> > > that I think you're a complete ass for doing so. Now take your snitty
> > > little glob of indignation and stick it where the sun don't shine.
> > >
> > > Have a nice day.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > Thats the interesting thing about the term run away. It pretty much
> > means the same thing no matter where you put it. It is not subject
> > to much interpetation.
> This my last word on this , I need to let it go I can't get thru
> to you.
> you just get mad. jill
>


lol

% wrote:
> "jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1161194473.641064.308690@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > jill wrote:
> > > RGB wrote:
> > > > X-No-Archive: yes
> > > >
> > > > jill wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > show me how I am wrong. present an argument that shows how I am
> wrong.
> > > > > don't get vulgar and mudsling. Show me how I am wrong. I will
> > > > > admit I am wrong. I am good at that. Just show me how I am wrong.
> > > > > anybody can be vulgar, that doesn't mean you win.
> > > >
> > > > I have no interest in "winning". I have nothing to "lose". I have no
> > > > interest in trying to prove anything to or about you. I don't give a
> > > > flying fuck about how you think I should interpret the phrase "run
> > > > away" in this context. You injected your obnoxious little self into
> > > > this thread in response to a purely Grace-supportive post of mine,
> > > > making a ridiculous big stink about how you didn't like one phrase I
> > > > used, and all I care about at this point is making it crystally clear
> > > > that I think you're a complete ass for doing so. Now take your snitty
> > > > little glob of indignation and stick it where the sun don't shine.
> > > >
> > > > Have a nice day.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > Thats the interesting thing about the term run away. It pretty much
> > > means the same thing no matter where you put it. It is not subject
> > > to much interpetation.
> > This my last word on this , I need to let it go I can't get thru
> > to you.
> > you just get mad. jill
> >
>
>
> lol
Shit all I wanted was an answer. Yes I think she was running
away, No I didn't really mean to say running away. just something
that made sense.
I just get, stick it up your ass you moron. very intelligent
reparte. the easiest thing to do thats for sure.
Hi , hope you are having a better day then me. Today is beautiful
here. One of those clear fall days where you can see forever and the
sky is so blue it hurts to look at it.
I stopped by the bookstore and bought case studies. It is a
murder mystery I think.
I always read the last page first but I am really going to try not
too this time. jill

"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1161196158.892276.22800@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
> % wrote:
>> "jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161194473.641064.308690@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> > jill wrote:
>> > > RGB wrote:
>> > > > X-No-Archive: yes
>> > > >
>> > > > jill wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > show me how I am wrong. present an argument that shows how I am
>> wrong.
>> > > > > don't get vulgar and mudsling. Show me how I am wrong. I will
>> > > > > admit I am wrong. I am good at that. Just show me how I am wrong.
>> > > > > anybody can be vulgar, that doesn't mean you win.
>> > > >
>> > > > I have no interest in "winning". I have nothing to "lose". I have
>> > > > no
>> > > > interest in trying to prove anything to or about you. I don't give
>> > > > a
>> > > > flying fuck about how you think I should interpret the phrase "run
>> > > > away" in this context. You injected your obnoxious little self into
>> > > > this thread in response to a purely Grace-supportive post of mine,
>> > > > making a ridiculous big stink about how you didn't like one phrase
>> > > > I
>> > > > used, and all I care about at this point is making it crystally
>> > > > clear
>> > > > that I think you're a complete ass for doing so. Now take your
>> > > > snitty
>> > > > little glob of indignation and stick it where the sun don't shine.
>> > > >
>> > > > Have a nice day.
>> > > >
>> > > > Mark
>> > > Thats the interesting thing about the term run away. It pretty
>> > > much
>> > > means the same thing no matter where you put it. It is not subject
>> > > to much interpetation.
>> > This my last word on this , I need to let it go I can't get thru
>> > to you.
>> > you just get mad. jill
>> >
>>
>>
>> lol
> Shit all I wanted was an answer. Yes I think she was running
> away, No I didn't really mean to say running away. just something
> that made sense.
> I just get, stick it up your ass you moron. very intelligent
> reparte. the easiest thing to do thats for sure.
> Hi , hope you are having a better day then me. Today is beautiful
> here. One of those clear fall days where you can see forever and the
> sky is so blue it hurts to look at it.
> I stopped by the bookstore and bought case studies. It is a
> murder mystery I think.
> I always read the last page first but I am really going to try not
> too this time. jill
>

it's kind of like sex. save the orgasm for last.

good books i will reread 3 times. trashy books i will never ever read.

Gravity

"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1161196158.892276.22800@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
> % wrote:
> > "jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1161194473.641064.308690@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > >
> > > jill wrote:
> > > > RGB wrote:
> > > > > X-No-Archive: yes
> > > > >
> > > > > jill wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > show me how I am wrong. present an argument that shows how I am
> > wrong.
> > > > > > don't get vulgar and mudsling. Show me how I am wrong. I will
> > > > > > admit I am wrong. I am good at that. Just show me how I am
wrong.
> > > > > > anybody can be vulgar, that doesn't mean you win.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no interest in "winning". I have nothing to "lose". I have
no
> > > > > interest in trying to prove anything to or about you. I don't give
a
> > > > > flying fuck about how you think I should interpret the phrase "run
> > > > > away" in this context. You injected your obnoxious little self
into
> > > > > this thread in response to a purely Grace-supportive post of mine,
> > > > > making a ridiculous big stink about how you didn't like one phrase
I
> > > > > used, and all I care about at this point is making it crystally
clear
> > > > > that I think you're a complete ass for doing so. Now take your
snitty
> > > > > little glob of indignation and stick it where the sun don't shine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have a nice day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > Thats the interesting thing about the term run away. It pretty
much
> > > > means the same thing no matter where you put it. It is not
subject
> > > > to much interpetation.
> > > This my last word on this , I need to let it go I can't get
thru
> > > to you.
> > > you just get mad. jill
> > >
> >
> >
> > lol
> Shit all I wanted was an answer. Yes I think she was running
> away, No I didn't really mean to say running away. just something
> that made sense.
> I just get, stick it up your ass you moron. very intelligent
> reparte. the easiest thing to do thats for sure.
> Hi , hope you are having a better day then me. Today is beautiful
> here. One of those clear fall days where you can see forever and the
> sky is so blue it hurts to look at it.
> I stopped by the bookstore and bought case studies. It is a
> murder mystery I think.
> I always read the last page first but I am really going to try not
> too this time. jill
>

you're asking for something too finalizing ,
how will that keep you coming back ,
and keeping you coming back is the prime directive ,
i don't read many books and i read magazines from back to front ,
if i do read a book , its usually about a specific discipline and
educational , college course text books and that sort of thing