ADA Recipe of the Day

No, it shouldn't be on alt.food.diabetic.

It shouldn't be on any diabetes site.

Following "Potato Pancakes" a week ago,a few quite
reasonable recipes appeared with modest carb contents, but
this appeared today.

http://www.diabetes.org/recipeofthed...nutrition_rotd
Recipe of the Day
Whole Wheat Pancakes

Recipe for Monday, 05/26/2008

You can modify this basic recipe by adding fruit, nuts, or
flavored extracts.

Number of Servings: 6
Serving Size: 2 pancakes

Today's recipe is brought to you by:

Campbell's V8 Juice

<snipped offensive ingredients:-)>

Nutrition Information
Amount per serving
Calories 194
Calories From Fat 42
Total Fat 5 g
Saturated Fat 1 g
Cholesterol 72 mg
Sodium 516 mg
Total Carbohydrate 31 g
Dietary Fiber 4 g
Sugars 6 g
Protein 9 g

Preparation Instructions

1. Combine all ingredients and mix until blended. Drop
batter, 1/4 cup at a time, onto a hot griddle sprayed with
nonstick cooking spray. Cook until brown on both sides,
turning once, about 5-6 minutes. Serve with jam or fruit if
desired."

Note that final advice, on top of 31gms carb.

Anyone for a killer breakfast?

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_s/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
Latest: Bangkok Grand Palace

On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:06:43 +1000, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>Anyone for a killer breakfast?

Sigh... I've been having this lately, adding some flax seed:
http://www.lowcarb.ca/recipes/breakfast115.html

I bet it tastes better, too...

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:v99m34pjbc36tbro7b4kt9snbl4e6iqrr9@4ax.com...
> No, it shouldn't be on alt.food.diabetic.
>
> It shouldn't be on any diabetes site.
>
> Following "Potato Pancakes" a week ago,a few quite
> reasonable recipes appeared with modest carb contents, but
> this appeared today.
>
> http://www.diabetes.org/recipeofthed...nutrition_rotd
> Recipe of the Day
> Whole Wheat Pancakes
>
> Recipe for Monday, 05/26/2008
>
> You can modify this basic recipe by adding fruit, nuts, or
> flavored extracts.
>
> Number of Servings: 6
> Serving Size: 2 pancakes
>
> Today's recipe is brought to you by:
>
> Campbell's V8 Juice
>
> <snipped offensive ingredients:-)>
>
> Nutrition Information
> Amount per serving
> Calories 194
> Calories From Fat 42
> Total Fat 5 g
> Saturated Fat 1 g
> Cholesterol 72 mg
> Sodium 516 mg
> Total Carbohydrate 31 g
> Dietary Fiber 4 g
> Sugars 6 g
> Protein 9 g
>
> Preparation Instructions
>
> 1. Combine all ingredients and mix until blended. Drop
> batter, 1/4 cup at a time, onto a hot griddle sprayed with
> nonstick cooking spray. Cook until brown on both sides,
> turning once, about 5-6 minutes. Serve with jam or fruit if
> desired."
>
> Note that final advice, on top of 31gms carb.
>
> Anyone for a killer breakfast?
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> --
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_s/
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
> Latest: Bangkok Grand Palace

Can you say reactive hypoglycemia boys and girls?
--
Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
BMI 21.5

On Mon, 26 May 2008 22:31:00 +0100, Nicky posted:

>On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:06:43 +1000, Alan S
><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Anyone for a killer breakfast?
>
>Sigh... I've been having this lately, adding some flax seed:
>http://www.lowcarb.ca/recipes/breakfast115.html

On the recommendation of someone who knows whereof he speaks, I have
cut down the amount of oats I give my horses, and decided to add a
little flaxseed to the oats I do give them. So today, I dropped by a
neighbour's place while he was loading up a semi with flax, and bought
about 1.5 bushels from him (about 85 lb.). It cost me about $27.50,
which is a pretty good price when you compare it to the store prices.

I am tempted to see if I can clean it well enough for use in my own
diet.

--
roses are #FF0000
violets are #0000FF
all my base
are belong to you

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:v99m34pjbc36tbro7b4kt9snbl4e6iqrr9@4ax.com...
> No, it shouldn't be on alt.food.diabetic.
>
> It shouldn't be on any diabetes site.
>
> Following "Potato Pancakes" a week ago,a few quite
> reasonable recipes appeared with modest carb contents, but
> this appeared today.
>
> http://www.diabetes.org/recipeofthed...nutrition_rotd
> Recipe of the Day
> Whole Wheat Pancakes
>
> Recipe for Monday, 05/26/2008
>
> You can modify this basic recipe by adding fruit, nuts, or
> flavored extracts.
>
> Number of Servings: 6
> Serving Size: 2 pancakes
>
> Today's recipe is brought to you by:
>
> Campbell's V8 Juice
>
> <snipped offensive ingredients:-)>
>
> Nutrition Information
> Amount per serving
> Calories 194
> Calories From Fat 42
> Total Fat 5 g
> Saturated Fat 1 g
> Cholesterol 72 mg
> Sodium 516 mg
> Total Carbohydrate 31 g
> Dietary Fiber 4 g
> Sugars 6 g
> Protein 9 g
>
> Preparation Instructions
>
> 1. Combine all ingredients and mix until blended. Drop
> batter, 1/4 cup at a time, onto a hot griddle sprayed with
> nonstick cooking spray. Cook until brown on both sides,
> turning once, about 5-6 minutes. Serve with jam or fruit if
> desired."
>
> Note that final advice, on top of 31gms carb.
>
> Anyone for a killer breakfast?
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> --
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_s/
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
> Latest: Bangkok Grand Palace
>
I think I'll increase my Insulin units just reading this, Alan.....

Henry Mydlarz

On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:06:43 +1000, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

<snippage>

> "Serve with jam or fruit if desired."
>
>Note that final advice, on top of 31gms carb.

Good grief!

x-no-archive: yes

Oleg Lego wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 22:31:00 +0100, Nicky posted:
>
>
>>On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:06:43 +1000, Alan S
>><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Anyone for a killer breakfast?
>>
>>Sigh... I've been having this lately, adding some flax seed:
>>http://www.lowcarb.ca/recipes/breakfast115.html
>
>
> On the recommendation of someone who knows whereof he speaks, I have
> cut down the amount of oats I give my horses, and decided to add a
> little flaxseed to the oats I do give them. So today, I dropped by a
> neighbour's place while he was loading up a semi with flax, and bought
> about 1.5 bushels from him (about 85 lb.). It cost me about $27.50,
> which is a pretty good price when you compare it to the store prices.
>
> I am tempted to see if I can clean it well enough for use in my own
> diet.
>

There's a reason that dogs and horses get Cushing's disease so often.

Susan

On Mon, 26 May 2008 23:12:08 -0600, Oleg Lego <rat@atatatat.com>
wrote:

>I am tempted to see if I can clean it well enough for use in my own
>diet.

Last long weekend, I opened the last packet of flax in the house just
as the shops shut, to discover that it was mixed about 60-40 with tiny
pebbles of exactly the same colour... actually, I discovered this with
the first bite of porridge... It took me about an hour to sort through
enough to eat for the rest of the weekend. You get your eye in fast :P

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On Tue, 27 May 2008 14:04:12 +0100, Nicky posted:

>On Mon, 26 May 2008 23:12:08 -0600, Oleg Lego <rat@atatatat.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I am tempted to see if I can clean it well enough for use in my own
>>diet.
>
>Last long weekend, I opened the last packet of flax in the house just
>as the shops shut, to discover that it was mixed about 60-40 with tiny
>pebbles of exactly the same colour... actually, I discovered this with
>the first bite of porridge... It took me about an hour to sort through
>enough to eat for the rest of the weekend. You get your eye in fast :P

Ouch! And that's from a packet? I don't think the stuff I got has any
pebbles, just some weed seeds and bits of straw. They seemed to really
enjoy it. I just fed it as-is, though. They say it should be soaked,
ground or cooked.

--
roses are #FF0000
violets are #0000FF
all my base
are belong to you

On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:53:49 -0400, Susan posted:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Oleg Lego wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 May 2008 22:31:00 +0100, Nicky posted:
>>
>>
>>>On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:06:43 +1000, Alan S
>>><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anyone for a killer breakfast?
>>>
>>>Sigh... I've been having this lately, adding some flax seed:
>>>http://www.lowcarb.ca/recipes/breakfast115.html
>>
>>
>> On the recommendation of someone who knows whereof he speaks, I have
>> cut down the amount of oats I give my horses, and decided to add a
>> little flaxseed to the oats I do give them. So today, I dropped by a
>> neighbour's place while he was loading up a semi with flax, and bought
>> about 1.5 bushels from him (about 85 lb.). It cost me about $27.50,
>> which is a pretty good price when you compare it to the store prices.
>>
>> I am tempted to see if I can clean it well enough for use in my own
>> diet.
>>
>
>There's a reason that dogs and horses get Cushing's disease so often.

I hadn't realized that. Lack of the Omega3 fats?

--
roses are #FF0000
violets are #0000FF
all my base
are belong to you

On Tue, 27 May 2008 04:07:50 -0500, BlueBrooke <me@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:06:43 +1000, Alan S
><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
><snippage>
>
>> "Serve with jam or fruit if desired."
>>
>>Note that final advice, on top of 31gms carb.
>
>Good grief!

My sentiments exactly!

Not only twice the carbs I can get away with for breakfast (and I'm
lucky) but virtually zero fat to ensure that all those Healthy Whole
Grains go rushing into your blood real quick.

Plus the jam or fruit, PLUS the glass of orange juice so beloved of
dieticians for breakfast (OK I know they didn't specifically mention
it but I bet they thought of it)

Talk about drumming up repeat business

On May 27, 8:48 pm, Trinkwasser <s...@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Talk about drumming up repeat business


BDA (British Diabetic Association) today issued a press release
stating that "Many diabetics fail to take their medication properly
(or at all) as they don't realise that it may prevent
complications."

They further note that "good control is essential" Interestingly
enough, they fail utterly to mention diet and exercise... Hmmm!


HH

On Tue, 27 May 2008 12:43:28 -0600, Oleg Lego <> wrote:

>Ouch! And that's from a packet? I don't think the stuff I got has any
>pebbles, just some weed seeds and bits of straw. They seemed to really
>enjoy it. I just fed it as-is, though. They say it should be soaked,
>ground or cooked.

I reckon they'd be better off if you soaked it - it absorbs a LOT of
water, and swells - better out than in.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

"Helen Howes" <helen@raindropkites.co.uk> wrote in message
news:e66fb6a4-e87e-4074-ad5e-0885c4168583@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> BDA (British Diabetic Association) today issued a press release
> stating that "Many diabetics fail to take their medication properly
> (or at all) as they don't realise that it may prevent
> complications."
>
> They further note that "good control is essential" Interestingly
> enough, they fail utterly to mention diet and exercise... Hmmm!
>

For an awful lot of people, changing d&e lifestyle is even harder than
remembering to take a pill. They don't do *any* of it. "It's too hard."
bj

Helen Howes wrote:
> On May 27, 8:48 pm, Trinkwasser <s...@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Talk about drumming up repeat business
>
>
> BDA (British Diabetic Association) today issued a press release
> stating that "Many diabetics fail to take their medication properly
> (or at all) as they don't realise that it may prevent
> complications."
>
> They further note that "good control is essential" Interestingly
> enough, they fail utterly to mention diet and exercise... Hmmm!


And since when was medication a cure all? I am surprised at how many type
2's think it is and are very bewildered when it doesn't work that way.

In article <7i1o341vi96feicrdo8keic6ka3las71p8@4ax.com>,
Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 26 May 2008 23:12:08 -0600, Oleg Lego <rat@atatatat.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I am tempted to see if I can clean it well enough for use in my own
> >diet.
>
> Last long weekend, I opened the last packet of flax in the house just
> as the shops shut, to discover that it was mixed about 60-40 with tiny
> pebbles of exactly the same colour... actually, I discovered this with
> the first bite of porridge... It took me about an hour to sort through
> enough to eat for the rest of the weekend. You get your eye in fast :P

Are you sure they were pebbles?

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

bj <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> "Helen Howes" <helen@raindropkites.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:e66fb6a4-e87e-4074-ad5e-0885c4168583@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> BDA (British Diabetic Association) today issued a press release
>> stating that "Many diabetics fail to take their medication properly
>> (or at all) as they don't realise that it may prevent
>> complications."
>>
>> They further note that "good control is essential" Interestingly
>> enough, they fail utterly to mention diet and exercise... Hmmm!

> For an awful lot of people, changing d&e lifestyle is even harder than
> remembering to take a pill. They don't do *any* of it. "It's too hard."

Forty years ago after breaking my wrist I was assigned to regular
physiotherapy sessions which involved using special wrist exercising
machines under the supervision of a nurse. I was the only one who
worked hard at the exercises. There were some people who sat with
their wrist motionless chatting and watching the nurse, and only moved
the machine when the nurse glanced in their direction.

I was also the only one who recovered complete wrist function and
strength during the period of the physiotherapy sessions.

Ten years later I broke the other wrist. When I asked about
physiotherapy sessions I was told they didn't do those any longer
because they hadn't proved to be of much benefit. So I simply pursued
my own intensive programme of rehabilitatory exercise. I recovered
complete wrist flexibility and strength. The consultant who did long
term follow up was very surprised. He said it was extremely rare for
people to recover complete function after such a bad break as I had
had.

I have no doubt that exercise is far more beneficial to health and
recovery in all sorts of ways than most people realise, and that
includes doctors who do research into the benefits of exercise.

Doctors sometimes note miraculous cases where athletes sometimes
recover better from injuries than was considered possible. They
usually attribute this to the athletes being unusually "strong". I
think it much more likely that the athletes are simply disciplined
about doing exercise and familiar with recovering from minor injuries
through persevering with rehabilitation exercises.

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

In article <6a3l1iF34h1q2U1@mid.individual.net>,
Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> bj <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> > "Helen Howes" <helen@raindropkites.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:e66fb6a4-e87e-4074-ad5e-0885c4168583@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >> BDA (British Diabetic Association) today issued a press release
> >> stating that "Many diabetics fail to take their medication properly
> >> (or at all) as they don't realise that it may prevent
> >> complications."
> >>
> >> They further note that "good control is essential" Interestingly
> >> enough, they fail utterly to mention diet and exercise... Hmmm!
>
> > For an awful lot of people, changing d&e lifestyle is even harder than
> > remembering to take a pill. They don't do *any* of it. "It's too hard."
>
> Forty years ago after breaking my wrist I was assigned to regular
> physiotherapy sessions which involved using special wrist exercising
> machines under the supervision of a nurse. I was the only one who
> worked hard at the exercises. There were some people who sat with
> their wrist motionless chatting and watching the nurse, and only moved
> the machine when the nurse glanced in their direction.
>
> I was also the only one who recovered complete wrist function and
> strength during the period of the physiotherapy sessions.
>
> Ten years later I broke the other wrist. When I asked about
> physiotherapy sessions I was told they didn't do those any longer
> because they hadn't proved to be of much benefit. So I simply pursued
> my own intensive programme of rehabilitatory exercise. I recovered
> complete wrist flexibility and strength. The consultant who did long
> term follow up was very surprised. He said it was extremely rare for
> people to recover complete function after such a bad break as I had
> had.
>
> I have no doubt that exercise is far more beneficial to health and
> recovery in all sorts of ways than most people realise, and that
> includes doctors who do research into the benefits of exercise.
>
> Doctors sometimes note miraculous cases where athletes sometimes
> recover better from injuries than was considered possible. They
> usually attribute this to the athletes being unusually "strong". I
> think it much more likely that the athletes are simply disciplined
> about doing exercise and familiar with recovering from minor injuries
> through persevering with rehabilitation exercises.

Also, athletes don't have to fit PT and rehab around their jobs; rehab
*is* their job.

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:6a3l1iF34h1q2U1@mid.individual.net...
> bj <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>
> Ten years later I broke the other wrist. When I asked about
> physiotherapy sessions I was told they didn't do those any longer
> because they hadn't proved to be of much benefit.
>

PT doesn't have a prayer of being successful if it isn't actually *done*.

I worked *hard* at both of my shoulders (rotator cuff repairs) & refused to
be satisfied with less than full function & ROM that I'd had pre-problems.
Doc chuckled at my insistance & kept rx-ing the pt referrals
(& the pain pills I needed to help me get through it all).

> Doctors sometimes note miraculous cases where athletes sometimes
> recover better from injuries than was considered possible. They
> usually attribute this to the athletes being unusually "strong". I
> think it much more likely that the athletes are simply disciplined
> about doing exercise and familiar with recovering from minor injuries
> through persevering with rehabilitation exercises.
>

Yup, I think that's the secret. I'm no "athlete" & certainly not one you'd
read about let alone a "miraculous case" but I have worked hard at all my
rehabs. My problem is that after the rehab is done I'm *tired, bored & fed
up* with the routines so slack off & quit when things are "fixed". I should
do more routine weight work! I have plenty of the accoutrements around the
house, though the Therabands are probably rotted by now & need replacing
for the next go-round.
bj

On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:14:52 +0100, Nicky posted:

>On Tue, 27 May 2008 12:43:28 -0600, Oleg Lego <> wrote:
>
>>Ouch! And that's from a packet? I don't think the stuff I got has any
>>pebbles, just some weed seeds and bits of straw. They seemed to really
>>enjoy it. I just fed it as-is, though. They say it should be soaked,
>>ground or cooked.
>
>I reckon they'd be better off if you soaked it - it absorbs a LOT of
>water, and swells - better out than in.

Thanks, Nicky. I'll give it a try.

--
roses are #FF0000
violets are #0000FF
all my base
are belong to you

It is so bad we actually have ads that say "do" as in do somthing like walk
...garden..dance...bike..fish...in other words get yer buns off the sofa and
move..SOME....ANY..lol

KROM



"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote
> For an awful lot of people, changing d&e lifestyle is even harder than
> remembering to take a pill. They don't do *any* of it. "It's too hard."
> bj
>
>
>

On Tue, 27 May 2008 19:06:20 -0400, Alice Faber <afaber@panix.com>
wrote:

>In article <7i1o341vi96feicrdo8keic6ka3las71p8@4ax.com>,
> Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 May 2008 23:12:08 -0600, Oleg Lego <rat@atatatat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I am tempted to see if I can clean it well enough for use in my own
>> >diet.
>>
>> Last long weekend, I opened the last packet of flax in the house just
>> as the shops shut, to discover that it was mixed about 60-40 with tiny
>> pebbles of exactly the same colour... actually, I discovered this with
>> the first bite of porridge... It took me about an hour to sort through
>> enough to eat for the rest of the weekend. You get your eye in fast :P
>
>Are you sure they were pebbles?

Well, they did damage to my grinder!

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

bj <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> "Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:6a3l1iF34h1q2U1@mid.individual.net...

>> Doctors sometimes note miraculous cases where athletes sometimes
>> recover better from injuries than was considered possible. They
>> usually attribute this to the athletes being unusually "strong". I
>> think it much more likely that the athletes are simply disciplined
>> about doing exercise and familiar with recovering from minor injuries
>> through persevering with rehabilitation exercises.

> Yup, I think that's the secret. I'm no "athlete" & certainly not one you'd
> read about let alone a "miraculous case" but I have worked hard at all my
> rehabs. My problem is that after the rehab is done I'm *tired, bored & fed
> up* with the routines so slack off & quit when things are "fixed". I should
> do more routine weight work! I have plenty of the accoutrements around the
> house, though the Therabands are probably rotted by now & need replacing
> for the next go-round.

I suffer badly from boredom, so I can't manage the usual kind of
exercise routines without the extra encouragement of recovering from
injury. What takes very little time, and I find is surprisingly
effective, is simply quite often to max out on something so strenuous
I can only do it a few times. So I have several exercises that only
take several seconds to do, because that's all I can manage to do. But
it's easy and quick to do one of those just in passing during the day,
or sometimes more than once a day.

I find that doing that once a fortnight keeps up a good level of
background strength. Doing it a few times a week slowly builds
strength. And doing it twice a day builds strength fast enough that I
have to slow down now and then to stop growing strength faster than my
tendons and joints can adapt to take the extra punishment. My general
impression is that when pushed my tendons and joints grow very roughly
about ten times slower than my muscles.

I also exploit curiosity to help keep me exercising. I keep records of
exercise and strength and try various experiments when they occur to
me. So sometimes I'll do a boring exercise because I'm curious to see
the result of the experiment, which makes it an interesting exercise
:-)

It was my doctor who started me on all this exercise kick. He told me
that at my age it would be impossible for me to get stronger with
exercise, the best I would be able to do would be to slow down the
rate at which I was getting weaker.

"How interesting!" I thought to myself, "I wonder if you're wrong
about that?"

Turned out he was wrong. That's the kind of thing that makes exercise
interesting :-)

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

In article <2l6q34h742m3s1rkhs8hfa92m2l5p4m88f@4ax.com>,
Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 May 2008 19:06:20 -0400, Alice Faber <afaber@panix.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <7i1o341vi96feicrdo8keic6ka3las71p8@4ax.com>,
> > Nicky <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 26 May 2008 23:12:08 -0600, Oleg Lego <rat@atatatat.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I am tempted to see if I can clean it well enough for use in my own
> >> >diet.
> >>
> >> Last long weekend, I opened the last packet of flax in the house just
> >> as the shops shut, to discover that it was mixed about 60-40 with tiny
> >> pebbles of exactly the same colour... actually, I discovered this with
> >> the first bite of porridge... It took me about an hour to sort through
> >> enough to eat for the rest of the weekend. You get your eye in fast :P
> >
> >Are you sure they were pebbles?
>
> Well, they did damage to my grinder!

Ah...OK. Insect parts (what I was thinking of) wouldn't do that.

--
"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly.
This, apparently, upsets the fools."
---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest

On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Helen Howes
<helen@raindropkites.co.uk> wrote:

>On May 27, 8:48 pm, Trinkwasser <s...@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Talk about drumming up repeat business
>
>
>BDA (British Diabetic Association) today issued a press release
>stating that "Many diabetics fail to take their medication properly
>(or at all) as they don't realise that it may prevent
>complications."
>
>They further note that "good control is essential" Interestingly
>enough, they fail utterly to mention diet and exercise... Hmmm!

<sigh>

My nurse told me I was doing very well as my A1c was under 6, when I
was getting pissed off about having gone from 5.3 to 5.6. She also
told me I was testing my BP far too often - until I pointed out the
graph was for a couple of years

Off topic, glad to hear you're still alive after last night!

(We had hordes of rain and wind followed by power cuts as a couple of
generators shut down unexpectedly, followed last night by one of the
noisiest and brightest thunderstorms I ever saw)

On Wed, 28 May 2008 08:05:21 +1000, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>Helen Howes wrote:
>> On May 27, 8:48 pm, Trinkwasser <s...@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> Talk about drumming up repeat business
>>
>>
>> BDA (British Diabetic Association) today issued a press release
>> stating that "Many diabetics fail to take their medication properly
>> (or at all) as they don't realise that it may prevent
>> complications."
>>
>> They further note that "good control is essential" Interestingly
>> enough, they fail utterly to mention diet and exercise... Hmmm!
>
>
>And since when was medication a cure all? I am surprised at how many type
>2's think it is and are very bewildered when it doesn't work that way.
>
And even worse is when the medication is barely offsetting the effect
of the appalling diet they give you

On 27 May 2008 23:50:10 GMT, Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
wrote:

>bj <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>> "Helen Howes" <helen@raindropkites.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:e66fb6a4-e87e-4074-ad5e-0885c4168583@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>> BDA (British Diabetic Association) today issued a press release
>>> stating that "Many diabetics fail to take their medication properly
>>> (or at all) as they don't realise that it may prevent
>>> complications."
>>>
>>> They further note that "good control is essential" Interestingly
>>> enough, they fail utterly to mention diet and exercise... Hmmm!
>
>> For an awful lot of people, changing d&e lifestyle is even harder than
>> remembering to take a pill. They don't do *any* of it. "It's too hard."
>
>Forty years ago after breaking my wrist I was assigned to regular
>physiotherapy sessions which involved using special wrist exercising
>machines under the supervision of a nurse. I was the only one who
>worked hard at the exercises. There were some people who sat with
>their wrist motionless chatting and watching the nurse, and only moved
>the machine when the nurse glanced in their direction.
>
>I was also the only one who recovered complete wrist function and
>strength during the period of the physiotherapy sessions.
>
>Ten years later I broke the other wrist. When I asked about
>physiotherapy sessions I was told they didn't do those any longer
>because they hadn't proved to be of much benefit. So I simply pursued
>my own intensive programme of rehabilitatory exercise. I recovered
>complete wrist flexibility and strength. The consultant who did long
>term follow up was very surprised. He said it was extremely rare for
>people to recover complete function after such a bad break as I had
>had.
>
>I have no doubt that exercise is far more beneficial to health and
>recovery in all sorts of ways than most people realise, and that
>includes doctors who do research into the benefits of exercise.
>
>Doctors sometimes note miraculous cases where athletes sometimes
>recover better from injuries than was considered possible. They
>usually attribute this to the athletes being unusually "strong". I
>think it much more likely that the athletes are simply disciplined
>about doing exercise and familiar with recovering from minor injuries
>through persevering with rehabilitation exercises.

This works for mental stuff as well.

For example you could try panicking at least half an hour before
you're ready to go out for an appointment. Then just before going out
the door you discover you haven't put your shoes on, then you can't
find your glasses. Then you need a pee

<fume>

I shouldn't complain too much, such mental exercises are undoubtedly
what has kept mother's brain so sharp at her advanced age. She also
does crosswords and has recently discovered Sudoku. She only gave up
doing fiendishly complicated jigsaws because her vision had gotten so
bad.

Use it or lose it . . .

"Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:tai044p6chptdur2ne3mli4khn687ut56v@4ax.com...
>
> I shouldn't complain too much, such mental exercises are undoubtedly
> what has kept mother's brain so sharp at her advanced age. She also
> does crosswords and has recently discovered Sudoku. She only gave up
> doing fiendishly complicated jigsaws because her vision had gotten so
> bad.
>

I've been doing cryptic crosswords (i.e. Brit-style) with my bedtime
ice-cream for some months now. Thank goodness for Amazon or I wouldn't be
able to get those books -- there are very few US cryptix Xwd books & I've
done all of them.
bj

On Fri, 30 May 2008 19:49:52 GMT, "bj"
<bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote:

>"Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:tai044p6chptdur2ne3mli4khn687ut56v@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I shouldn't complain too much, such mental exercises are undoubtedly
>> what has kept mother's brain so sharp at her advanced age. She also
>> does crosswords and has recently discovered Sudoku. She only gave up
>> doing fiendishly complicated jigsaws because her vision had gotten so
>> bad.
>>
>
>I've been doing cryptic crosswords (i.e. Brit-style) with my bedtime
>ice-cream for some months now. Thank goodness for Amazon or I wouldn't be
>able to get those books -- there are very few US cryptix Xwd books & I've
>done all of them.
>bj
>
>
I used to. The "Australian" used to include the English
"Times" crossword. I'd get most of it out on the train going
to work in the morning, and the rest seemed to percolate in
my brain during the day and I'd finish the last couple of
pesky words as soon as I opened it going home.

Maybe I should start again, I'll check this out:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,252,00.html


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
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http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
Latest: Bangkok Grand Palace

On May 26, 5:06*pm, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, it shouldn't be on alt.food.diabetic.
>
> It shouldn't be on any diabetes site.
>
> Following "Potato Pancakes" a week ago,a few quite
> reasonable recipes appeared with modest carb contents, but
> this appeared today.
>
> http://www.diabetes.org/recipeofthed...nutrition_rotd
> Recipe of the Day
> Whole Wheat Pancakes
>
> Recipe for Monday, 05/26/2008
>
> You can modify this basic recipe by adding fruit, nuts, or
> flavored extracts.
>
> Number of Servings: *6
> Serving Size: *2 pancakes
>
> Today's recipe is brought to you by:
>
> Campbell's V8 Juice
>
> <snipped offensive ingredients:-)>
>
> Nutrition Information
> Amount per serving
> Calories * * * * * * * 194
> Calories From Fat * * * 42
> Total Fat * * * * * * * 5 g
> Saturated Fat * * * * * 1 g
> Cholesterol * * * * * 72 mg
> Sodium * * * * * * * 516 mg
> Total Carbohydrate * * 31 g
> Dietary Fiber * * * * * 4 g
> Sugars * * * * * * * * *6 g
> Protein * * * * * * * * 9 g
>
> Preparation Instructions
>
> * *1. Combine all ingredients and mix until blended. Drop
> batter, 1/4 cup at a time, onto a hot griddle sprayed with
> nonstick cooking spray. Cook until brown on both sides,
> turning once, about 5-6 minutes. Serve with jam or fruit if
> desired."
>
> Note that final advice, on top of 31gms carb.
>
> Anyone for a killer breakfast?
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> --
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.comhtt...l.blogspot.com
> Latest: Bangkok Grand Palace

Looks delicious. I'll pass though. I'd eat that one on a cheat day.

On Fri, 30 May 2008 19:49:52 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:

>"Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:tai044p6chptdur2ne3mli4khn687ut56v@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I shouldn't complain too much, such mental exercises are undoubtedly
>> what has kept mother's brain so sharp at her advanced age. She also
>> does crosswords and has recently discovered Sudoku. She only gave up
>> doing fiendishly complicated jigsaws because her vision had gotten so
>> bad.
>>
>
>I've been doing cryptic crosswords (i.e. Brit-style) with my bedtime
>ice-cream for some months now. Thank goodness for Amazon or I wouldn't be
>able to get those books -- there are very few US cryptix Xwd books & I've
>done all of them.

That's scary, but unsurprising.

Confession time, she's now doing the simple crosswords. But it's the
thought that counts . . .

"Trinkwasser" <spam@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:1p4344hlbe4vimnmlsmkp2d0shvoubbr9j@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 May 2008 19:49:52 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
> wrote:
>>I've been doing cryptic crosswords (i.e. Brit-style) with my bedtime
>>ice-cream for some months now. Thank goodness for Amazon or I wouldn't be
>>able to get those books -- there are very few US cryptix Xwd books & I've
>>done all of them.
>
> That's scary, but unsurprising.
>

I hope that isn't a comment on the intelligence of US crossword makers &
users. :-)

There are some *very hard* conventional US Xwds. I just prefer a different
*style*, not a different level of difficulty. I'm not very good at the
harder level ones of either style!

I just wish I remembered more of the UK geography I knew so well in 1955!
bj

If you like really good crosswords you may like to try these. Free
for a month, then pretty reasonable after that.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crossword/subscribe

Better than The Times, I think

HH

Thanks for the link. I'll keep it in mind. I usually do puzzles curled up in
my reading chair, not curled up with computer, though.
bj

"Helen Howes" <helen@raindropkites.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cbd01c9b-8bd9-40b1-9cd9-061a4a6d46b5@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> If you like really good crosswords you may like to try these. Free
> for a month, then pretty reasonable after that.
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/crossword/subscribe
>
> Better than The Times, I think
>
> HH