ADA urges Senate...Stem Cell Research

http://diabetes.org/diabetesnewsarti...emcellEDIT.xml

or

http://tinyurl.com/2nvzrf

(excerpt)

ALEXANDRIA, Va., April 9, 2007 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ --
The American Diabetes Association (ADA) -- the nation's leading
voluntary health organization supporting diabetes research,
information and advocacy -- today urged the U.S. Senate to pass, with
broad bipartisan support, the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act (S.
5). The ADA is a strong supporter of the legislation, which would
accelerate stem cell research by easing existing restrictions and
supporting research that uses embryonic stem cells, while maintaining
strict ethical guidelines. Congress passed the legislation last year,
but was unable to overcome President Bush's veto. In January, the
House of Representatives passed the legislation.

On 9 Apr 2007 15:24:50 -0700, "Kurt"
<kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com> wrote:

>http://diabetes.org/diabetesnewsarti...emcellEDIT.xml
>
>or
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2nvzrf
>
>(excerpt)
>
>ALEXANDRIA, Va., April 9, 2007 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ --
>The American Diabetes Association (ADA) -- the nation's leading
>voluntary health organization supporting diabetes research,
>information and advocacy -- today urged the U.S. Senate to pass, with
>broad bipartisan support, the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act (S.
>5). The ADA is a strong supporter of the legislation, which would
>accelerate stem cell research by easing existing restrictions and
>supporting research that uses embryonic stem cells, while maintaining
>strict ethical guidelines. Congress passed the legislation last year,
>but was unable to overcome President Bush's veto. In January, the
>House of Representatives passed the legislation.

Bravo!

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
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--
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latest: A Pause to Reflect

Booo!

Research based on destruction of human embroyos is as ethical as when
the administration of another country approved the use of jews (who
were going to be destroyed anyway) half a century ago.

Joe Dunfee

"Joe" <cadcoke3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1176246859.676244.263960@w1g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> Booo!
>
> Research based on destruction of human embroyos is as ethical as when
> the administration of another country approved the use of jews (who
> were going to be destroyed anyway) half a century ago.
>
> Joe Dunfee
>
I think a lot of people feel that way - but as a gut-reaction rather than an
informed opinion.

John

"Joe" <cadcoke3@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1176246859.676244.263960
@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> Booo!
>
> Research based on destruction of human embroyos is as ethical as when
> the administration of another country approved the use of jews (who
> were going to be destroyed anyway) half a century ago.
>
> Joe Dunfee
>
>

Why is it God is unable to create except as you folks see fit?

--
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than to those attending too small a degree of it." Thomas Jefferson

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conservatives." - ETG

In alt.support.diabetes on 10 Apr 2007 16:14:19 -0700 in Msg.#
<1176246859.676244.263960@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>, "Joe"
<cadcoke3@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Research based on destruction of human embroyos is as ethical as when
> the administration of another country approved the use of jews (who
> were going to be destroyed anyway) half a century ago.

I'm trying to decide if this is anti-Semitic. I think it is.

--
DonnaB
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg.
...................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
...................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2

"A year from now you may wish you had started today." - Karen Lamb

On 10 Apr 2007 16:14:19 -0700, "Joe" <cadcoke3@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Booo!
>
>Research based on destruction of human embroyos is as ethical as when
>the administration of another country approved the use of jews (who
>were going to be destroyed anyway) half a century ago.
>
>Joe Dunfee

Joe, that's a ridiculous analogy but I'm not going to argue
logic or ethics with you, just sanity. You also make the
false implication that stem cell research always equates to
the destruction of human embryos.

Any diabetic who is against properly supervised stem cell
research is limiting possibly vital research into their own
affliction. So is any cancer sufferer. I am both, so you
won't convince me. I am also an atheist, so I'm probably a
lost cause and a damned soul to you as well.

If the bill in your congress is defeated it will have
absolutely no effect on the research done in the rest of the
world; except possibly to accelerate it and make it much
more expensive for future Americans to reap the benefits
when they come.

So let's leave it there. I'll remain damned and you can
remain against one of the few areas of research with a
remote possibility of discovering better ways to treat or
even, just possibly, eliminate our different afflictions. If
not for us, then for our children and grandchildren who
inherit our genes. Any further argument between us would be
pointless restatements of beliefs, or a lack of them.

Alan, T2, CLL, Australia.

On Apr 10, 6:27 pm, "johnniemccoy@" <johnniemc...@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
> I think a lot of people feel that way - but as a gut-reaction rather than an
> informed opinion.
>
> John

I think I have an informed opinion. I am aware of the difference
between sources of stem cells. I am also aware that one source of stem
cells proposed as ethical by some are no longer viable for
implantation. But, still the original source is a hyuman embroyo.

We, as a species, seem to have a talent for fooling ourselves into
thinking something is true, and then later changing our mind. (I am
making a general statment, not just about those who approve of human
embrionic research)

Categorizing between human and non-human seems to be a repeating theme
we've regretted as a nation.

Joe Dunfee

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:51do139d2mc8om1k28vaefge8tkp1mu76h@4ax.com...
> On 10 Apr 2007 16:14:19 -0700, "Joe" <cadcoke3@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Booo!
> >
> >Research based on destruction of human embroyos is as ethical as when
> >the administration of another country approved the use of jews (who
> >were going to be destroyed anyway) half a century ago.
> >
> >Joe Dunfee
>
> Joe, that's a ridiculous analogy but I'm not going to argue
> logic or ethics with you, just sanity. You also make the
> false implication that stem cell research always equates to
> the destruction of human embryos.

Actually its not a bad analogy at all. And he didnt say anything about the
destruction of human embroyos being the only means of doing stem cell
research. This issue, the destruction of embroyos is what is being pushed
by Congress and that is what he is addressing.
>
> Any diabetic who is against properly supervised stem cell
> research is limiting possibly vital research into their own
> affliction.

Properly supervised? What exactly does that mean? You mean embryonic
research? If so then you are right. There are a large number of us that
believe that an embroyo is a human life, and the taking of a human life just
to save my own is wrong. It would be as if you were deaf, dumb, and blind,
and the government said I could have your heart because you are unable to
defend yourself. Its the same thing.

So is any cancer sufferer. I am both, so you
> won't convince me. I am also an atheist, so I'm probably a
> lost cause and a damned soul to you as well.

Your choice, not his.

>
> If the bill in your congress is defeated it will have
> absolutely no effect on the research done in the rest of the
> world; except possibly to accelerate it and make it much
> more expensive for future Americans to reap the benefits
> when they come.

Well, I think I see what it comes down to now. Killing human embroyos is ok
as long as it benifits you and saves you money.

>
> So let's leave it there. I'll remain damned and you can
> remain against one of the few areas of research with a
> remote possibility of discovering better ways to treat or
> even, just possibly, eliminate our different afflictions. If
> not for us, then for our children and grandchildren who
> inherit our genes. Any further argument between us would be
> pointless restatements of beliefs, or a lack of them.
>
> Alan, T2, CLL, Australia.

It has been shown that adult stem cell research is a very viable source of
stem cells, has NO controversy with it what so ever, and is the ONLY form
that shows to be viable. There MUST be SOME other AGENDA for perusing
embryonic stem cell research. Otherwise, its just plain foolish to pursue
it.
B

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:21:50 GMT, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Any diabetic who is against properly supervised stem cell
> research is limiting possibly vital research into their own
> affliction.

It' s the "properly supervised" part I have a problem with. I'm
afraid I just don't have faith anymore that people will do "the right
thing" when given the choice.

I was attacked because of my opinion on the Patriot Act when it was
passed and got the usual "if you don't have anything to hide"
argument. Now, low and behold, we find that several US government
agencies have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar, and I
wouldn't be a bit surprised if that's just the tip of the iceberg.

I don't believe "the end justifies the means."
--
BlueBrooke
T2/D&E/June 2005
A1c Oct 2006 -- 5.8
A1c Jul 2005 -- 6.8
Telling me it is true does not make it so.

The idea that stem cell research amounts to the destruction of human
life is an inaccurate depiction of what is phappening. Stem cell
research is making use of human life, the stem cells, and the embryos
from which they are devived, embryos that are unwanted and otherwise
would be destroyed, making use of those embryos to devise techniques
to save human life.

If you believe in God and the sanctity of life, then what purpose is
served by tossing unwanted embryos into the garbage, as happens to
thousands every year? Surely you must believe that God created excess
embryos with a purpose in mind, that purpose being to benefit
humanity. What better way could there be to do that then to develkop
cures to diseases that have eluded prevention or cure by other means?

Morris



On Apr 10, 4:14 pm, "Joe" <cadco...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Booo!
>
> Research based on destruction of human embroyos is as ethical as when
> the administration of another country approved the use of jews (who
> were going to be destroyed anyway) half a century ago.
>
> Joe Dunfee