advantages to taking one diabetes pill rather than another?

[Kurt]

http://diabetes.org/tipoftheday.jsp?...s=233972434334

Question:
Are there advantages to taking one diabetes pill rather than another?

Answer:
Which pill you take depends on what is causing your high blood
glucose. If you need to produce more insulin, sulfonylureas and
meglitinides help.

Sulfonylureas have been around longest and work well, but can cause
hypoglycemia and weight gain. You can't use them if you're allergic to
sulfa drugs or have kidney problems.

Meglitinides (Prandin) are taken before meals, so if you don't eat,
you don't take it, which is handy. It's okay with kidney problems, but
weight gain is possible.

Two pills increase how much glucose gets into your cells:
thiazolidinediones (glitazones) and biguanides (metformin). You take
glitazones only once a day, and they lower triglyceride levels. But
they cause weight gain. Metformin does not cause weight gain or low
blood glucose and improves blood fats. Side effects, however, are
nausea and diarrhea, and you can't take it with kidney, heart, or
liver problems, or if you drink alcohol excessively.

Alpha-glucosidase inhibitors block absorption of carbohydrate in your
intestines, keeping glucose lower after a meal. There's no weight
gain, but gas, bloating, and diarrhea are side effects. Talk with your
doctor to decide which pill will work best for you.

[Alan S]

On Thu, 31 May 2007 23:22:24 -0700, Kurt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>http://diabetes.org/tipoftheday.jsp?...s=233972434334
>
>Question:
>Are there advantages to taking one diabetes pill rather than another?
>
>Answer:
>Which pill you take depends on what is causing your high blood
>glucose. If you need to produce more insulin, sulfonylureas and
>meglitinides help.
>
>Sulfonylureas have been around longest and work well, but can cause
>hypoglycemia and weight gain. You can't use them if you're allergic to
>sulfa drugs or have kidney problems.
>
>Meglitinides (Prandin) are taken before meals, so if you don't eat,
>you don't take it, which is handy. It's okay with kidney problems, but
>weight gain is possible.
>
>Two pills increase how much glucose gets into your cells:
>thiazolidinediones (glitazones) and biguanides (metformin). You take
>glitazones only once a day, and they lower triglyceride levels. But
>they cause weight gain.

Goes to show that the "Tip of the Day" is not affected by
"scare stories" on other parts of the ADA web-site:
http://tinyurl.com/388j6m or
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetesnews...anpaewEDIT.xml
One would think that someone in the organisation would vet
these "Tips" before posting them; apparently not.

>Metformin does not cause weight gain or low
>blood glucose and improves blood fats. Side effects, however, are
>nausea and diarrhea, and you can't take it with kidney, heart, or
>liver problems, or if you drink alcohol excessively.
>
>Alpha-glucosidase inhibitors block absorption of carbohydrate in your
>intestines, keeping glucose lower after a meal. There's no weight
>gain, but gas, bloating, and diarrhea are side effects. Talk with your
>doctor to decide which pill will work best for you.

Or even talk to your doctor to see if it's better for you to
use diet and exercise first - or even whether insulin may be
your best option.

Which pill was best for you, Kurt?


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

[Kurt]

On May 31, 11:34?pm, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Which pill was best for you, Kurt?

Meaning that since I'm not a Type 2 you think I shouldn't post a link
that has Type 2 information in it. Well, unlike you and Glinda from
Oz I don't discriminate nor am I divisive when it comes to offering
diabetes information to diabetics. Should one have the disease or
condition in order to find a link, or refer someone to a site that
might help them? Do I have to have cataracts in order to post a
health article about cataract treatment? Should I have an ogran
transplant before I can steer someone to the National Kidney
Foundation if they ask a question about possible kidney problems as a
diabetic? Posting an article or a link in this newsgroup may not be
of interest to you, or some of your kindred spirits, but others who
aren't faux know-it-alls like you may find it of some use. Just about
everything I post is without interpretation and conclusion from me.
Wish you would follow that example because frankly you taint anything
you post by telling people what they should get from it.

But I doubt you really believe that your star bellied sneetches should
be separate as you constantly comment and post things about and for
both T1's and T2's. You also comment on the American medical system,
yet you live in Australia. You commment on a myriad of other things
that you are not part of. Nothing wrong with that, unless of course
you shake a hypocritical finger at others for daring to think outside
of their own little world.

Which pill is best for me? Currently just Altace and a baby aspirin.
Twenty years from now, maybe Viagra? Hard to tell.

Kurt

[Alan S]

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:23:59 -0700, Kurt
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On May 31, 11:34?pm, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Which pill was best for you, Kurt?
>
>Meaning that since I'm not a Type 2 you think I shouldn't post a link
>that has Type 2 information in it. Well, unlike you and Glinda from
>Oz I don't discriminate nor am I divisive when it comes to offering
>diabetes information to diabetics. Should one have the disease or
>condition in order to find a link, or refer someone to a site that
>might help them? Do I have to have cataracts in order to post a
>health article about cataract treatment? Should I have an ogran
>transplant before I can steer someone to the National Kidney
>Foundation if they ask a question about possible kidney problems as a
>diabetic? Posting an article or a link in this newsgroup may not be
>of interest to you, or some of your kindred spirits, but others who
>aren't faux know-it-alls like you may find it of some use. Just about
>everything I post is without interpretation and conclusion from me.
>Wish you would follow that example because frankly you taint anything
>you post by telling people what they should get from it.
>
>But I doubt you really believe that your star bellied sneetches should
>be separate as you constantly comment and post things about and for
>both T1's and T2's. You also comment on the American medical system,
>yet you live in Australia. You commment on a myriad of other things
>that you are not part of. Nothing wrong with that, unless of course
>you shake a hypocritical finger at others for daring to think outside
>of their own little world.
>
>Which pill is best for me? Currently just Altace and a baby aspirin.
>Twenty years from now, maybe Viagra? Hard to tell.
>
>Kurt
>

Goodness. We've hardly corresponded for a while now; I
didn't realise I'd hit such a sensitive nerve or how far we
are separated by our common language. Translation please:
"star bellied sneetches" (yes I can guess - but I'm
fascinated to know for sure:-)

Who is Glinda? Is this something to do with Seuss?

Oh, and this is actually a negative, not a positive IMO:
"Just about everything I post is without interpretation and
conclusion from me."

If you are simply going to post a repeat of every new "Tip
of the Day" and other ADA web-site quotes - just post the
link every day for newbies. If you're going to post
something, it can help to give some indication of whether
you are for or against or just neutral, unless it's a quote
of something like policy guidelines, such as the IGT/IFG
quote I just posted.

Any comment on the Avandia aspect?

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

[Julie Bove]

"Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..

> Goodness. We've hardly corresponded for a while now; I
> didn't realise I'd hit such a sensitive nerve or how far we
> are separated by our common language. Translation please:
> "star bellied sneetches" (yes I can guess - but I'm
> fascinated to know for sure:-)

The star bellied sneetches are from a Dr. Suess book. I can't remember
which one.
>
> Who is Glinda? Is this something to do with Seuss?

Refers to the good witch from The Wizard of Oz:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glinda

<snip>

[Julie Bove]

"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8vQ7i.17560$zN5.11577@trndny05...
>
> "Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
>
>> Goodness. We've hardly corresponded for a while now; I
>> didn't realise I'd hit such a sensitive nerve or how far we
>> are separated by our common language. Translation please:
>> "star bellied sneetches" (yes I can guess - but I'm
>> fascinated to know for sure:-)
>
> The star bellied sneetches are from a Dr. Suess book. I can't remember
> which one.

<snip>

I found the sneetches. Has to do with discrimination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sne..._Other_Stories

[Alan S]

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:16:11 GMT, "Julie Bove"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:8vQ7i.17560$zN5.11577@trndny05...
>>
>> "Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]..
>>
>>> Goodness. We've hardly corresponded for a while now; I
>>> didn't realise I'd hit such a sensitive nerve or how far we
>>> are separated by our common language. Translation please:
>>> "star bellied sneetches" (yes I can guess - but I'm
>>> fascinated to know for sure:-)
>>
>> The star bellied sneetches are from a Dr. Suess book. I can't remember
>> which one.
>
><snip>
>
>I found the sneetches. Has to do with discrimination.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sne..._Other_Stories
>

Thank you Julie.

I suspected something similar, but I had a sheltered
up-bringing on tales of Snugglepot and Cuddlepie, the
Gum-nut twins, and the big, bad, banksia men.
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/con-...cuddlepie.html

I suspect "Glinda" did too - although I did see the mythical
land of Oz as well as living in the real one:-)

All is clear again.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

[Julie Bove]

"Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:16:11 GMT, "Julie Bove"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:8vQ7i.17560$zN5.11577@trndny05...
>>>
>>> "Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]..
>>>
>>>> Goodness. We've hardly corresponded for a while now; I
>>>> didn't realise I'd hit such a sensitive nerve or how far we
>>>> are separated by our common language. Translation please:
>>>> "star bellied sneetches" (yes I can guess - but I'm
>>>> fascinated to know for sure:-)
>>>
>>> The star bellied sneetches are from a Dr. Suess book. I can't remember
>>> which one.
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>I found the sneetches. Has to do with discrimination.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sne..._Other_Stories
>>
>
> Thank you Julie.
>
> I suspected something similar, but I had a sheltered
> up-bringing on tales of Snugglepot and Cuddlepie, the
> Gum-nut twins, and the big, bad, banksia men.
> http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/con-...cuddlepie.html
>
> I suspect "Glinda" did too - although I did see the mythical
> land of Oz as well as living in the real one:-)
>
> All is clear again.

Cute! Personally I couldn't get into Suess much beyond when I was maybe 3
or 4. Go Dog Go did teach me to read though, as did Hop On Pop. The rest
was just too weird for me.