Another med bites the dust!

My stomach has been feeling progressively worse and worse for some time now.
I feared my gastoparesis was worsening. It got to the point where the only
foods I could stomach were white rice in broth with a little chicken,
pretzels, crackers, and Cinnamon Toast Crunch cereal. Then it got to where
I was constantly nauseous with even those things. My stomach went from
nausea to pain, all the time. Then the burping began.

Angela has been home sick all week with some sort of stomach bug that is
going around. I took her to the Dr. I was having some of the same symptoms
so I thought it was that too. Only she got better and I didn't. Sound
familiar? Last month we got sick too, I blamed the tainted water they said
we had before they changed the filter at the water plant. Gah! It's so
easy to make what seems like plausible excuses for how rotten I feel.

But then last night as I sat doubled over with yet another headache and
scratching at the new itchy rash I had, I wondered. Could it be the Aciphex
the Dr. prescribed for my GERD? The GERD that comes as a side effect of the
gastroparesis?

I decided to stop it this morning. I've eaten my cereal. So far, so good.
No nausea. No stomach pain.

This is starting to get annoying! The Prilosec made me sick almost
instantly so I knew it was the cause. The Prevacid side effects came on
slowly. I didn't get sick until about 2 weeks after taking it. And now the
Aciphex. I'm not even sure how many weeks I took that before the symptoms
came on.

I'm going to put off calling the Dr. for a few days. Want to get all of
this out of my system. I'm afraid the only med left is Nexium and I haven't
read much good about that. Odd though. Stomach feels fine when not on the
meds. And then when I take the meds for symptoms of a disease I know I have
but don't notice the symptoms of, I get freaking sick! Can't wait for the
school bus to come so I can go back to bed. And now for the first time in
weeks perhaps I'll sleep peacefully instead of hunched over a bowl thinking
I'm going to puke!

Sounds like you need some much needed rest Julie. I hope you get it.
Take care.

Cheri


Julie Bove wrote in message ...

>but don't notice the symptoms of, I get freaking sick! Can't wait
for the
>school bus to come so I can go back to bed. And now for the first
time in
>weeks perhaps I'll sleep peacefully instead of hunched over a bowl
thinking
>I'm going to puke!
>
>

On May 4, 8:36 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:

(Read in full, but snipped for brevity.)

Julie,

So sorry you've really been through the ringer for these meds. I know
you've probably said, but I've missed it, what symptoms are you having
that caused the doctor to prescribe these meds for you? Are they
supposed to help with the gastroparesis? If so, it sounds like the
cure is worse than the disease!

As for Nexium, I'm not sure it is significantly different from
Prilosec. The state of Massachusetts sued AstraZeneca based on the
idea that AstraZeneca mislead consumers into believing that Nexium was
big improvement over their drug Prilosec whose patent was about to
expire. http://heartburn.about.com/b/a/142321.htm According the
article, the two drugs are nearly identical.

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise

"Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178304399.034772.5660@e65g2000hsc.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> As for Nexium, I'm not sure it is significantly different from
> Prilosec. The state of Massachusetts sued AstraZeneca based on the
> idea that AstraZeneca mislead consumers into believing that Nexium was
> big improvement over their drug Prilosec whose patent was about to
> expire. http://heartburn.about.com/b/a/142321.htm According the
> article, the two drugs are nearly identical.
>

I don't know about these meds in particular, but sometimes "nearly"
identical -- a minor difference in a filler or dye, for example -- can make
all the difference in either how well the med works for you or how you
tolerate taking it at all.
bj

x-no-archive: yes

Michelle C. wrote:
> On May 4, 8:36 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> (Read in full, but snipped for brevity.)
>
> Julie,
>
> So sorry you've really been through the ringer for these meds. I know
> you've probably said, but I've missed it, what symptoms are you having
> that caused the doctor to prescribe these meds for you? Are they
> supposed to help with the gastroparesis? If so, it sounds like the
> cure is worse than the disease!
>
> As for Nexium, I'm not sure it is significantly different from
> Prilosec. The state of Massachusetts sued AstraZeneca based on the
> idea that AstraZeneca mislead consumers into believing that Nexium was
> big improvement over their drug Prilosec whose patent was about to
> expire. http://heartburn.about.com/b/a/142321.htm According the
> article, the two drugs are nearly identical.

I suspect that they all cause delayed gastric emptying, which Julie
already has. :-/

Susan

"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
news:cLKdneX8pLvp7abbnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@inreach.com. ..
> Sounds like you need some much needed rest Julie. I hope you get it.
> Take care.

I just woke up my nap and I'm starving. Can't remember the last time I felt
actual hunger. My pants that had gotten too tight from bloating are now
loose on me. I feel MUCH better. Physcially anyway. Does make me a tad
angry that something that was supposed to make me feel better made me feel
so much worse and it took me this long to figure it out.

"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:cLL_h.3389$pW5.1238@trnddc07...

> I don't know about these meds in particular, but sometimes "nearly"
> identical -- a minor difference in a filler or dye, for example -- can
> make all the difference in either how well the med works for you or how
> you tolerate taking it at all.

True. I remember my old Endo. being furious when my insurance would no
longer cover my Synthroid and instead insisted I take something else.

"Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178304399.034772.5660@e65g2000hsc.googlegrou ps.com...
> On May 4, 8:36 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> (Read in full, but snipped for brevity.)
>
> Julie,
>
> So sorry you've really been through the ringer for these meds. I know
> you've probably said, but I've missed it, what symptoms are you having
> that caused the doctor to prescribe these meds for you? Are they
> supposed to help with the gastroparesis? If so, it sounds like the
> cure is worse than the disease!

This all started (sorry for being so graphic) with bouts of illness
occurring around 2-3:00 a.m. I'd wake up feeling unwell. Like hot and cold
at the same time. I'd feel saliva building up in my mouth, then suddenly
I'd expell undigested food from both ends of me at once. None of the usual
clues that one might be going to throw up. But it happened often enough for
me to figure out what the symptoms meant.

At first it was happening weekly. Usually after I'd made a trip to the
store with the salad bar and olive bar. I thought I was getting food
poisioning from there.

Then I was diagnosed with food allergies to dairy, eggs and almonds. Turn
out the salad I was getting always had some egg and cheese on it. Okay.
Thought the problem was solved. But no. It continued. Still thought it
might be food poisoning though since I always got sick after eating those
olive bar olives.

Got down to where the bouts were happening only about every three months.
My naturopath thought perhaps it was gallbladder given the time of day the
bouts were occurring. Gallbladder trouble does run in the family. But the
Ultrasound I'd had done previous to find a fatty liver didn't turn up
anything on the gallbladder either.

So... I went to a gastroenterologist. Right away he noticed that I had a
raspy sounding voice. I always have. He said that was a sign of GERD. He
wanted to do a gastric emptying study on me because he said my symptoms were
indiciative of gastroparesis. That's damage to the vagus nerve and often
caused by diabetes. I've been to many Drs. since my husband is in the
military and we move around a lot. Several of them had suggested I might
have this given some other problems. Such as inability to control my BG.
I've had bouts of hypos or high BG despite maximum meds and very careful
diet. When the food sits too long in the stomach as it will with
gastroparesis, BG continues to rise.

I could not get the gastric emptying study done because it is done with eggs
and I have a severe egg allergy. It has since been pointed out to me that
it can be done with oatmeal but apparently he wasn not familiar with this.
At any rate, he opted to do an endoscopy. I had 5 lesions in there that he
biopsied. They indicated GERD. I also have Barrett's Esophogus, an
advanced problem that occurs when GERD has gone untreated and the stomach
tissue begins to grow up into the esophogus. And he said my stomach was not
acting normally. Said it sat there doing nothing for a while and then
suddenly began moving. So apparently it was enough to make him think it is
indeed gastroparesis. I am taking Metoclopramide for that and actually am
considering stopping that or at least discussing it with him. That drug has
not gotten a very high rating from the people who have taken it. And he was
not thrilled to begin with that I was on it because the side effects of it
can cause permanent nerve damage.
>
> As for Nexium, I'm not sure it is significantly different from
> Prilosec. The state of Massachusetts sued AstraZeneca based on the
> idea that AstraZeneca mislead consumers into believing that Nexium was
> big improvement over their drug Prilosec whose patent was about to
> expire. http://heartburn.about.com/b/a/142321.htm According the
> article, the two drugs are nearly identical.

Interesting. I know a couple of people who have GERD and apparently it is
sort of standard procedure for the Dr. to switch you from one thing to
another to see how you'll react to it. Hmmm... Thanks!

"Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:5a1ifmF2madcnU1@mid.individual.net...

>
> I suspect that they all cause delayed gastric emptying, which Julie
> already has. :-/

Well, that certainly does seem to have gotten worse since I started those
meds. I was throwing up only once every three months prior and during the
past couple of months it has happened at least weekly and with me only
eating those foods purported to move through the digestive process quickly.
Gah! Drs. and their pills. When my daughter had that stomach virus, she
got a prescription for something to help with nausea and pain. He stressed
to me that she did not need an antibiotic. It seems some Drs. just feel
compelled to prescribe something...anything!

Julie, here is a big hug for you. I hope you get what you need in rest.

Loretta

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:rHO_h.95$83.52@trndny08...
>
> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
> news:cLL_h.3389$pW5.1238@trnddc07...
>
>> I don't know about these meds in particular, but sometimes "nearly"
>> identical -- a minor difference in a filler or dye, for example -- can
>> make all the difference in either how well the med works for you or how
>> you tolerate taking it at all.
>
> True. I remember my old Endo. being furious when my insurance would no
> longer cover my Synthroid and instead insisted I take something else.

I had no trouble switching from Synthroid to a different brand. Many people
(maybe most? dunno) do fine on any of the brands or generics for that. I
have to stick with a brand, but it hasn't mattered which one (of the two
I've used), as long as I stay with it.
bj

On May 4, 12:23 pm, "bj" <bjone...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> "Michelle C." <bookbug2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1178304399.034772.5660@e65g2000hsc.googlegrou ps.com...
>
>
>
> > As for Nexium, I'm not sure it is significantly different from
> > Prilosec. The state of Massachusetts sued AstraZeneca based on the
> > idea that AstraZeneca mislead consumers into believing that Nexium was
> > big improvement over their drug Prilosec whose patent was about to
> > expire. http://heartburn.about.com/b/a/142321.htmAccording the
> > article, the two drugs are nearly identical.
>
> I don't know about these meds in particular, but sometimes "nearly"
> identical -- a minor difference in a filler or dye, for example -- can make
> all the difference in either how well the med works for you or how you
> tolerate taking it at all.
> bj

Good point--especially when people are prone to allergies like Julie
is.

Best regards,
Michelle C., t2
diet & exercise

On May 4, 3:43 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michelle C." <bookbug2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1178304399.034772.5660@e65g2000hsc.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> > On May 4, 8:36 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > (Read in full, but snipped for brevity.)
>
> > Julie,
>
> > So sorry you've really been through the ringer for these meds. I know
> > you've probably said, but I've missed it, what symptoms are you having
> > that caused the doctor to prescribe these meds for you? Are they
> > supposed to help with the gastroparesis? If so, it sounds like the
> > cure is worse than the disease!
>
> This all started (sorry for being so graphic) with bouts of illness
> occurring around 2-3:00 a.m. I'd wake up feeling unwell. Like hot and cold
> at the same time. I'd feel saliva building up in my mouth, then suddenly
> I'd expell undigested food from both ends of me at once. None of the usual
> clues that one might be going to throw up. But it happened often enough for
> me to figure out what the symptoms meant.
>
> At first it was happening weekly. Usually after I'd made a trip to the
> store with the salad bar and olive bar. I thought I was getting food
> poisioning from there.
>
> Then I was diagnosed with food allergies to dairy, eggs and almonds. Turn
> out the salad I was getting always had some egg and cheese on it. Okay.
> Thought the problem was solved. But no. It continued. Still thought it
> might be food poisoning though since I always got sick after eating those
> olive bar olives.
>
> Got down to where the bouts were happening only about every three months.
> My naturopath thought perhaps it was gallbladder given the time of day the
> bouts were occurring. Gallbladder trouble does run in the family. But the
> Ultrasound I'd had done previous to find a fatty liver didn't turn up
> anything on the gallbladder either.
>
> So... I went to a gastroenterologist. Right away he noticed that I had a
> raspy sounding voice. I always have. He said that was a sign of GERD. He
> wanted to do a gastric emptying study on me because he said my symptoms were
> indiciative of gastroparesis. That's damage to the vagus nerve and often
> caused by diabetes. I've been to many Drs. since my husband is in the
> military and we move around a lot. Several of them had suggested I might
> have this given some other problems. Such as inability to control my BG.
> I've had bouts of hypos or high BG despite maximum meds and very careful
> diet. When the food sits too long in the stomach as it will with
> gastroparesis, BG continues to rise.
>
> I could not get the gastric emptying study done because it is done with eggs
> and I have a severe egg allergy. It has since been pointed out to me that
> it can be done with oatmeal but apparently he wasn not familiar with this.
> At any rate, he opted to do an endoscopy. I had 5 lesions in there that he
> biopsied. They indicated GERD. I also have Barrett's Esophogus, an
> advanced problem that occurs when GERD has gone untreated and the stomach
> tissue begins to grow up into the esophogus. And he said my stomach was not
> acting normally. Said it sat there doing nothing for a while and then
> suddenly began moving. So apparently it was enough to make him think it is
> indeed gastroparesis. I am taking Metoclopramide for that and actually am
> considering stopping that or at least discussing it with him. That drug has
> not gotten a very high rating from the people who have taken it. And he was
> not thrilled to begin with that I was on it because the side effects of it
> can cause permanent nerve damage.
>
>
>
> > As for Nexium, I'm not sure it is significantly different from
> > Prilosec. The state of Massachusetts sued AstraZeneca based on the
> > idea that AstraZeneca mislead consumers into believing that Nexium was
> > big improvement over their drug Prilosec whose patent was about to
> > expire. http://heartburn.about.com/b/a/142321.htmAccording the
> > article, the two drugs are nearly identical.
>
> Interesting. I know a couple of people who have GERD and apparently it is
> sort of standard procedure for the Dr. to switch you from one thing to
> another to see how you'll react to it. Hmmm... Thanks!

Thanks for the history Julie. Now I have the full picture. Given the
Barretts Esophagus and the lesions I can see why the doctor wanted you
to take a medication to reduce your stomach acid. I know that some of
the medications like Prilosec are proton pump inhibitors--I'm
wondering if all the medications you've tried fall into that class?
Perhaps some of the older drugs, the histamine 2 blockers--Axid,
Tagamet, etc.--would help. I don't think they are quite as effective,
but perhaps would work better with your system since their mode of
action is different?

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:17224-463BBEFE-421@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net...
> Julie, here is a big hug for you. I hope you get what you need in rest.

Thanks!

"Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178328535.063035.126120@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...

> Thanks for the history Julie. Now I have the full picture. Given the
> Barretts Esophagus and the lesions I can see why the doctor wanted you
> to take a medication to reduce your stomach acid. I know that some of
> the medications like Prilosec are proton pump inhibitors--I'm
> wondering if all the medications you've tried fall into that class?
> Perhaps some of the older drugs, the histamine 2 blockers--Axid,
> Tagamet, etc.--would help. I don't think they are quite as effective,
> but perhaps would work better with your system since their mode of
> action is different?

I don't think those are effective for this problem. And if they're in any
way like an antihistamine, I can't take it. They make me so sleepy I can't
function.

On May 4, 2:43 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michelle C." <bookbug2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1178304399.034772.5660@e65g2000hsc.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> > On May 4, 8:36 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > (Read in full, but snipped for brevity.)
>
> > Julie,
>
> > So sorry you've really been through the ringer for these meds. I know
> > you've probably said, but I've missed it, what symptoms are you having
> > that caused the doctor to prescribe these meds for you? Are they
> > supposed to help with the gastroparesis? If so, it sounds like the
> > cure is worse than the disease!
>
> This all started (sorry for being so graphic) with bouts of illness
> occurring around 2-3:00 a.m. I'd wake up feeling unwell. Like hot and cold
> at the same time. I'd feel saliva building up in my mouth, then suddenly
> I'd expell undigested food from both ends of me at once. None of the usual
> clues that one might be going to throw up. But it happened often enough for
> me to figure out what the symptoms meant.
>
> At first it was happening weekly. Usually after I'd made a trip to the
> store with the salad bar and olive bar. I thought I was getting food
> poisioning from there.
>
> Then I was diagnosed with food allergies to dairy, eggs and almonds. Turn
> out the salad I was getting always had some egg and cheese on it. Okay.
> Thought the problem was solved. But no. It continued. Still thought it
> might be food poisoning though since I always got sick after eating those
> olive bar olives.
>
> Got down to where the bouts were happening only about every three months.
> My naturopath thought perhaps it was gallbladder given the time of day the
> bouts were occurring. Gallbladder trouble does run in the family. But the
> Ultrasound I'd had done previous to find a fatty liver didn't turn up
> anything on the gallbladder either.
>
> So... I went to a gastroenterologist. Right away he noticed that I had a
> raspy sounding voice. I always have. He said that was a sign of GERD. He
> wanted to do a gastric emptying study on me because he said my symptoms were
> indiciative of gastroparesis. That's damage to the vagus nerve and often
> caused by diabetes. I've been to many Drs. since my husband is in the
> military and we move around a lot. Several of them had suggested I might
> have this given some other problems. Such as inability to control my BG.
> I've had bouts of hypos or high BG despite maximum meds and very careful
> diet. When the food sits too long in the stomach as it will with
> gastroparesis, BG continues to rise.
>
> I could not get the gastric emptying study done because it is done with eggs
> and I have a severe egg allergy. It has since been pointed out to me that
> it can be done with oatmeal but apparently he wasn not familiar with this.
> At any rate, he opted to do an endoscopy. I had 5 lesions in there that he
> biopsied. They indicated GERD. I also have Barrett's Esophogus, an
> advanced problem that occurs when GERD has gone untreated and the stomach
> tissue begins to grow up into the esophogus. And he said my stomach was not
> acting normally. Said it sat there doing nothing for a while and then
> suddenly began moving. So apparently it was enough to make him think it is
> indeed gastroparesis. I am taking Metoclopramide for that and actually am
> considering stopping that or at least discussing it with him. That drug has
> not gotten a very high rating from the people who have taken it. And he was
> not thrilled to begin with that I was on it because the side effects of it
> can cause permanent nerve damage.
>
>
>
> > As for Nexium, I'm not sure it is significantly different from
> > Prilosec. The state of Massachusetts sued AstraZeneca based on the
> > idea that AstraZeneca mislead consumers into believing that Nexium was
> > big improvement over their drug Prilosec whose patent was about to
> > expire. http://heartburn.about.com/b/a/142321.htmAccording the
> > article, the two drugs are nearly identical.
>
> Interesting. I know a couple of people who have GERD and apparently it is
> sort of standard procedure for the Dr. to switch you from one thing to
> another to see how you'll react to it. Hmmm... Thanks!


Oh Julie, I'm so sorry you are going through this! I hope you get
rest and relief somehow.

"Ricavito" <newsgroupreader@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:1178332243.168706.288640@e65g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...

> Oh Julie, I'm so sorry you are going through this! I hope you get
> rest and relief somehow.

Thanks. Stomach is acting up a wee bit after dinner, but it's nothing
compared to what these past few weeks have been. And I do feel more rested
although apparently not enough because I'm rather snappish. Heh!

On May 4, 6:35 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Ricavito" <newsgrouprea...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1178332243.168706.288640@e65g2000hsc.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Oh Julie, I'm so sorry you are going through this! I hope you get
> > rest and relief somehow.
>
> Thanks. Stomach is acting up a wee bit after dinner, but it's nothing
> compared to what these past few weeks have been. And I do feel more rested
> although apparently not enough because I'm rather snappish. Heh!

For what it's worth and I have no idea if this would have anything to
do with what's happening with you, when I was talking metformin and
benicar (an ARB) I had terrible nausea, interspersed with bouts of
diahrrea. This started gradually as I began on Byetta and got to be
really dehabilitating. I had terrible food aversions and was
developing more every day. Coffee, eggs, any kind of meat. It was
the last straw the day I was eating a vegetarian sandwich and got
nauseated at the sight of it.

My physician had me stop the met and the benicar and the problems
disappeared overnight. I don't know which was the culprit, but boy
was I miserable before. I feel really good now.

It's amazing how powerful drugs can be and what a difference, both
good and bad, they can make in our lives.

Are you just on Byetta now Ric? I'm having quite a bit of nausea
lately and I only take 500mg of metformin, and 2mg of Amaryl. I
haven't had problems before though, so dunno, and wouldn't think that
small amount of metformin would cause it.

Cheri


Ricavito wrote in message

>For what it's worth and I have no idea if this would have anything to
>do with what's happening with you, when I was talking metformin and
>benicar (an ARB) I had terrible nausea, interspersed with bouts of
>diahrrea. This started gradually as I began on Byetta and got to be
>really dehabilitating. I had terrible food aversions and was
>developing more every day. Coffee, eggs, any kind of meat. It was
>the last straw the day I was eating a vegetarian sandwich and got
>nauseated at the sight of it.
>
>My physician had me stop the met and the benicar and the problems
>disappeared overnight. I don't know which was the culprit, but boy
>was I miserable before. I feel really good now.
>
>It's amazing how powerful drugs can be and what a difference, both
>good and bad, they can make in our lives.
>

On May 4, 7:01 pm, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> Are you just on Byetta now Ric? I'm having quite a bit of nausea
> lately and I only take 500mg of metformin, and 2mg of Amaryl. I
> haven't had problems before though, so dunno, and wouldn't think that
> small amount of metformin would cause it.
>
> Cheri

Yep, just the Byetta 10, twice a day. I fear my A1c is going to go
up--I won't have another test for another month or so. Morning
readings are definitely up, but then I've even had a real low (a 62 at
work where I got all fuzzy headed and confused), so the byetta is
doing its job.

Hard to say about the nausea. I had taken the met for a couple of
years (2000 mg a day) with no problems. From the bit of reading I've
done, it seems that once your system decides it doesn't like the met,
you can't take it anymore. 500 mg a day seems like a really light
dose but if the nausea keeps up, it might be worth a call to your doc
just to rule out any bad stuff. I hope your nausea resolves Cheri,
maybe a nice tomato beer? I had my Friday night glass of red wine
already :-)

"Ricavito" <newsgroupreader@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:1178333068.186062.278660@h2g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...

> For what it's worth and I have no idea if this would have anything to
> do with what's happening with you, when I was talking metformin and
> benicar (an ARB) I had terrible nausea, interspersed with bouts of
> diahrrea. This started gradually as I began on Byetta and got to be
> really dehabilitating. I had terrible food aversions and was
> developing more every day. Coffee, eggs, any kind of meat. It was
> the last straw the day I was eating a vegetarian sandwich and got
> nauseated at the sight of it.

I suppose it's possible the Metformin is a problem too. Stomach is feeling
progressively worse and worse following dinner. Oddly I am burping and that
seems to help each time I do. Used to never be able to burp. Hmmm... I
did have a dinner salad and some green beans. The only vegetables I've had
in days aside from some tomato sauce a few bits in soup. I take so darned
many meds it's difficult to tell which (if any is the problem). I suppose
it is possible that my gastroparesis has just gotten worse but that wouldn't
explain why my stomach felt fine earlier today.
>
> My physician had me stop the met and the benicar and the problems
> disappeared overnight. I don't know which was the culprit, but boy
> was I miserable before. I feel really good now.
>
> It's amazing how powerful drugs can be and what a difference, both
> good and bad, they can make in our lives.

Yep.

Ricavito wrote in message

>just to rule out any bad stuff. I hope your nausea resolves Cheri,
>maybe a nice tomato beer? I had my Friday night glass of red wine
>already :-)

Yes, a nice tomato beer sounds good, but I'm not drinking these
days...hmmmm, maybe there is a connection there. LOL Have a great
weekend.

Cheri

On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:01:08 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:

>"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:rHO_h.95$83.52@trndny08...
>>
>> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>> news:cLL_h.3389$pW5.1238@trnddc07...
>>
>>> I don't know about these meds in particular, but sometimes "nearly"
>>> identical -- a minor difference in a filler or dye, for example -- can
>>> make all the difference in either how well the med works for you or how
>>> you tolerate taking it at all.
>>
>> True. I remember my old Endo. being furious when my insurance would no
>> longer cover my Synthroid and instead insisted I take something else.
>
>I had no trouble switching from Synthroid to a different brand. Many people
>(maybe most? dunno) do fine on any of the brands or generics for that. I
>have to stick with a brand, but it hasn't mattered which one (of the two
>I've used), as long as I stay with it.

The NHS swap levothyroxine suppliers two or three times a year, I
guess on price grounds. For several days after the brand change I am a
complete zombie, right back to pre-dx days even though I'm on exactly
the same dose - then things switch back to normal again. I never go
hyper, so I'm assuming it's a filler / absorption problem rather than
a dose issue.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.5% BMI 25

On May 4, 6:48 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michelle C." <bookbug2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1178328535.063035.126120@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Thanks for the history Julie. Now I have the full picture. Given the
> > Barretts Esophagus and the lesions I can see why the doctor wanted you
> > to take a medication to reduce your stomach acid. I know that some of
> > the medications like Prilosec are proton pump inhibitors--I'm
> > wondering if all the medications you've tried fall into that class?
> > Perhaps some of the older drugs, the histamine 2 blockers--Axid,
> > Tagamet, etc.--would help. I don't think they are quite as effective,
> > but perhaps would work better with your system since their mode of
> > action is different?
>
> I don't think those are effective for this problem. And if they're in any
> way like an antihistamine, I can't take it. They make me so sleepy I can't
> function.

I have problems with anti-histamines making sleepy too, but these
medications never did. I think the mechanism of action is a little
different than a standard anti-histamine. Still, it's a moot point if
they won't solve your problem.

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:4kio33h3d49gepms7s0q9dd9o63bd2t9te@4ax.com...
>
> The NHS swap levothyroxine suppliers two or three times a year, I
> guess on price grounds. For several days after the brand change I am a
> complete zombie, right back to pre-dx days even though I'm on exactly
> the same dose - then things switch back to normal again. I never go
> hyper, so I'm assuming it's a filler / absorption problem rather than
> a dose issue.
>

This can be a real medical problem for post-thyroid-cancer patients.
They are (mostly) supposed to stay at a tsh-suppressed level, & constant
changes are Not A Good Thing.

Any time I change either brand or dose, I need to get a lab test 6-8 weeks
later. This can end up being a whole lot more expensive than staying on one
of the "cheap generics" that may change willy-nilly.

I don't know enough about how the UK deals with thyroid cancer (I can't
remember what's been said about it on my cancer list, in relation to this
issue) to know how much trouble the patients have with meds & consistency.
bj