Club Membership Renewed

HbA1c 5.87; about a tenth above last time. I'll take it, especially since
HDL was up a good 10 points (and already decent), and LDL down the same.
So, Mr. Nordic Track is earning his keep!
Good news on a gloomy drizzly day.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Gary Woods wrote:
> HbA1c 5.87; about a tenth above last time. I'll take it, especially since
> HDL was up a good 10 points (and already decent), and LDL down the same.
> So, Mr. Nordic Track is earning his keep!
> Good news on a gloomy drizzly day.
>
>
> Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
> Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
way to go Gary ! ! !

/me does a snoopy happy dance

--
kate
type 1 since 1987
www.diabetic-talk.org

On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:40:25 -0400, Gary Woods
<garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote:

>HbA1c 5.87; about a tenth above last time. I'll take it, especially since
>HDL was up a good 10 points (and already decent), and LDL down the same.
>So, Mr. Nordic Track is earning his keep!
>Good news on a gloomy drizzly day.

Woo-hoo! Nice one, Gary!

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

Gary Woods wrote in message
<5snm149ulrs879j2g7383o8pvi8vf0f4qg@4ax.com>...
>HbA1c 5.87; about a tenth above last time. I'll take it, especially
since
>HDL was up a good 10 points (and already decent), and LDL down the
same.
>So, Mr. Nordic Track is earning his keep!
>Good news on a gloomy drizzly day.


Great news Gary.

Cheri

On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:40:25 -0400, Gary Woods posted:

>HbA1c 5.87; about a tenth above last time. I'll take it, especially since
>HDL was up a good 10 points (and already decent), and LDL down the same.
>So, Mr. Nordic Track is earning his keep!
>Good news on a gloomy drizzly day.

Good stuff, Gary! Keep on Trackin'!

--
Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada.
DX 24 Aug 07. D&E
Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin
Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08)

On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:40:25 -0400, Gary Woods
<garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote:

>HbA1c 5.87; about a tenth above last time. I'll take it, especially since
>HDL was up a good 10 points (and already decent), and LDL down the same.
>So, Mr. Nordic Track is earning his keep!
>Good news on a gloomy drizzly day.
>
>
>Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
>Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Congrats! Keep being a good example mate:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

"Oleg Lego" <rat@atatatat.com> wrote in message
news:jhvn14l9uaupgv1rs05eo81t097601ok29@4ax.com...
>
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:40:25 -0400, Gary Woods posted:
>
>>HbA1c 5.87; about a tenth above last time. I'll take it, especially since
>>HDL was up a good 10 points (and already decent), and LDL down the same.
>>So, Mr. Nordic Track is earning his keep!
>>Good news on a gloomy drizzly day.
>
> Good stuff, Gary! Keep on Trackin'!


I didn't get Gary's message, so great news Gary!

On Fri, 02 May 2008 13:37:38 -0600, Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>Gary Woods wrote:
>> HbA1c 5.87; about a tenth above last time. I'll take it, especially since
>> HDL was up a good 10 points (and already decent), and LDL down the same.
>> So, Mr. Nordic Track is earning his keep!
>> Good news on a gloomy drizzly day.
>>
>>
>> Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
>> Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
>way to go Gary ! ! !
>
>/me does a snoopy happy dance

Wouldn't this group be disappointing if people didn't keep posting
results like these? <G>

On Fri, 02 May 2008 14:40:25 -0400, Gary Woods
<garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote:

>HbA1c 5.87; about a tenth above last time. I'll take it, especially since
>HDL was up a good 10 points (and already decent), and LDL down the same.
>So, Mr. Nordic Track is earning his keep!
>Good news on a gloomy drizzly day.
>
>
>Gary Woods

Gary, you're the greatest. Not only have you renewed your membership
of the 5% club but you've improved your HDL. Now that doesn't happen
by accident. Lowering LDL is easier by comparison than raising HDL
for many T2 diabetics. I tried for months and months on one occasion
without success. The usual ways are increased exercise and giving up
smoking. As a non-smoker the later wasn't an option. I charged up a
local hill every day in the certain knowledge it was going to raise my
HDL. It didn't.

So here is another reason you might not have thought about why I wish
to say you're the greatest. You've told us how you achieved it ...
using the Nordic Track.

It all helps others know what works for someone else.
Who knows it might just work for them. Thanks.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Quentin Grady <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

> You've told us how you achieved it ...
>using the Nordic Track.


And interestingly enough, the NT is the "Achiever" model!

It has a history: Bought by my dear wife some years ago, sadly outlived
her. It was injured by the intense heat from a kitchen fire two years ago,
but I was able to get a replacement computer/display box (LCD displays do
NOT like heat!) online. I'm working on a virtual trip up the Appalachian
Trail: got the trail guides, and mark off the distance traveled at each
workout. So far, I've got from Georgia to Tennessee, heading eventually to
Maine. I've only walked short stretches of the actual trail whenever I had
the chance. At my previous checkup, the Endo told me to get more exercise,
because the HDL was lower than he liked, hence the renewed emphasis on the
Nordic Track.
For the retro TV types, I'm currently watching episodes of "McHale's Navy"
while skiing. Not a lot like the Navy I was in long ago, but enough
similarities to convince me the writers had actual experience...

And back to re-potting heirloom tomato plants; it will be a few more weeks
before they can safely go into the garden; in the meantime they'll live in
a cheapo plastic greenhouse.

Cheers!


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

On Sun, 04 May 2008 08:34:00 -0400, Gary Woods
<garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Quentin Grady <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>> You've told us how you achieved it ...
>>using the Nordic Track.
>
>
>And interestingly enough, the NT is the "Achiever" model!
>
>It has a history: Bought by my dear wife some years ago, sadly outlived
>her. It was injured by the intense heat from a kitchen fire two years ago,
>but I was able to get a replacement computer/display box (LCD displays do
>NOT like heat!) online. I'm working on a virtual trip up the Appalachian
>Trail: got the trail guides, and mark off the distance traveled at each
>workout. So far, I've got from Georgia to Tennessee, heading eventually to
>Maine. I've only walked short stretches of the actual trail whenever I had
>the chance. At my previous checkup, the Endo told me to get more exercise,
>because the HDL was lower than he liked, hence the renewed emphasis on the
>Nordic Track.

Hey, I'm further impressed. I've been reading Jenny's book including
her comments on exercise. She emphasizes that the most important point
is not to hurt yourself. T2s simply can't afford the permanent
injuries since T2 is for ever. Now I really like the way you have a
cross country trip set out for yourself. That means you're taking
care of yourself.


>For the retro TV types, I'm currently watching episodes of "McHale's Navy"
>while skiing. Not a lot like the Navy I was in long ago, but enough
>similarities to convince me the writers had actual experience...

Like the guy who wrote Red October. They investigated him apparently
wondering how he figured out some of the nuclear submarine strategies.
>And back to re-potting heirloom tomato plants; it will be a few more
weeks
>before they can safely go into the garden; in the meantime they'll live in
>a cheapo plastic greenhouse.

The heirloom tomatoes have gone here. The plants have been pulled
out. The only tomatoes available now are red and grown in glass
houses. With fuel prices being what they are I'm not expecting many
locally grown tomatoes.

I've had to turn to yellow-fleshed kiwi fruit aka zespri to get
lutein for protecting peripheral vision. The other benefit of kiwi is
that it provides chromium. This information might well be unkind to
those who live in areas where kiwi is expensive. We get the ones that
are too large or oddly shaped at give away prices.

>Cheers!
>
>
>Gary Woods

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Quentin Grady <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>Like the guy who wrote Red October. They investigated him apparently
>wondering how he figured out some of the nuclear submarine strategies.

I spent some time trying to find subs from a patrol aircraft many many
years ago, and I was amused to find mention in Tom Clancy's book of things
I thought were highly classified. Of course, much of that technology used
little glowing glass bottles, and was far out of date by then. Interesting
to contemplate what they're doing now!

With which, it's time to spend a little time on the trail.

Cheers!


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Hi Gary:
> Quentin Grady <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>
>>You've told us how you achieved it ...
>>using the Nordic Track.
>
>
>
> And interestingly enough, the NT is the "Achiever" model!

> I'm working on a virtual trip up the Appalachian
> Trail: got the trail guides, and mark off the distance traveled at each
> workout. So far, I've got from Georgia to Tennessee, heading eventually to
> Maine. I've only walked short stretches of the actual trail whenever I had
> the chance. At my previous checkup, the Endo told me to get more exercise,
> because the HDL was lower than he liked, hence the renewed emphasis on the
> Nordic Track.

I live near the Appalachian Trail in Maryland. I was doing some hiking
on the Trail prior to rupturing an Achilles tendon. I am a little leery
about going out on the Trail by myself since then. The virtual hike is
not quite like the real thing. I wore out the soles on some boots on
one hike over a lot of rocks. Also the temperature was near 90 degrees
F. The slopes can also be very steep in some places. Nevertheless
congratulations on your success. I'm staying on the bike close to home
now, but it is not as vigorous as the Nordic Track.

Frank

On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:33:17 +1200, Quentin Grady
<quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>I've been reading Jenny's book

How did you order? I'm a bit grumpy with Amazon; after I
paid they advised delivery in late July. Jenny assures me
they will be quicker, but still...

In the meantime I'm reading a totally fascinating book by a
guy who keeps digressing to ruminations about a Farmer's
Market:-)


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

On Sun, 04 May 2008 18:41:34 -0400, Gary Woods
<garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Quentin Grady <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>Like the guy who wrote Red October. They investigated him apparently
>>wondering how he figured out some of the nuclear submarine strategies.
>
>I spent some time trying to find subs from a patrol aircraft many many
>years ago, and I was amused to find mention in Tom Clancy's book of things
>I thought were highly classified. Of course, much of that technology used
>little glowing glass bottles, and was far out of date by then. Interesting
>to contemplate what they're doing now!
>
>With which, it's time to spend a little time on the trail.
>
>Cheers!

G'day G'day Gary,

I'm fascinated with the adventurous lives many of us have lived with
quite a few being in a military in the US or UK. Perhaps stress and
tension is a factor in producing T2 diabetes. Nah. Not likely.

With reference to Tom Clancy. apparently some of the submarine tactics
such as the Crazy Ivan were used in practice. In the Crazy Ivan the
lead sub would reverse props and do a sharp right angle change of
direction causing the following sub's propellers to produce cavitation
and give away its presence. Either that or ram the lead sub.

That got him investigated. If one spends months or years figuring
out what would make a good story one is bound to create tactics that
could be used in real life.

>
>Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
>Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Thanks Gary,
Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:14:02 +1000, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:33:17 +1200, Quentin Grady
><quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>I've been reading Jenny's book
>
>How did you order? I'm a bit grumpy with Amazon; after I
>paid they advised delivery in late July. Jenny assures me
>they will be quicker, but still...

I ordered from Barnes and Noble. I opted for the intermediate
international mail rate. Let me say I think you'll thoroughly enjoy
JENNY's book. It even mentions a diabetic activist called Alan S.
Wonder who that could be.

>In the meantime I'm reading a totally fascinating book by a
>guy who keeps digressing to ruminations about a Farmer's
>Market:-)

A good point well made. Out books are different in their intent.
If you're looking for one on diabetes, read Jenny's book. She is
above all intelligent and reaches simple to follow sound conclusions
from the scientific evidence available on the subject. I think her
book is marvelous.

Mine is a book with a different intention. It is a book that engages
readers in learning for themselves what changes they could make that
would benefit them. As a writer the most gratifying feedback has been
the number of blokes who have after decades of disinterest taken an
interest in shopping and cooking.

What is the book about? Well, it is a personal story about the
positive attributes of being a bloke and how we handle adversity. When
I started writing I wasn't aware what a powerful role the Farmer's
Market would play in my story. I wrote about it because things
happened there that were worth writing about. They illustrated some
point or other. The Farmers Market has developed into a wonderful
place to observe the very best in human nature. Each Sunday people
roll up with their families to enjoy the music, to meet friends, share
good food. Think of it as local free concert every day it is fine.
It brings out the best in human nature.

I'm glad you're enjoying it. Most people pass on their copy to a
friend who passes it on to another friend. I received an order last
Friday from the University bookshop in the further most part of New
Zealand. How they came to know of me I don't know.

>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

On Sun, 04 May 2008 19:53:59 -0400, Jefferson <Jefferson@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I live near the Appalachian Trail in Maryland. I was doing some hiking
>on the Trail prior to rupturing an Achilles tendon. I am a little leery
>about going out on the Trail by myself since then. The virtual hike is
>not quite like the real thing. I wore out the soles on some boots on
>one hike over a lot of rocks. Also the temperature was near 90 degrees
>F. The slopes can also be very steep in some places. Nevertheless
>congratulations on your success. I'm staying on the bike close to home
>now, but it is not as vigorous as the Nordic Track.
>
>Frank

G'day G'day Frank,

IMHO the key to sustainable exercise is making it part of
something greater than yourself. Forest and Bird Societies seem a
bit cuckoo to me yet they have a very positive attribute. They bring
people together. Tramping by yourself besides being blood dangerous,
at least in New Zealand, mean you miss out on the sustenance of
companionship. So that ruptured Achilles tendon may be a blessing in
disguise. (You probably don't feel that way. It's easier for someone
else to do so if you see what I mean.)

While Nordic Trainers and the like allow you to regulate your exercise
and have all sorts of benefits there is one thing they don't do that
the real thing does. They don't provide the "uneven ground"
stimulation of the ankles. This is reported to stimulate blood flow
to the feet. IIRC it reduced peripheral arterial disease. I may that
wrong in detail but the general idea was important. Worth looking up
perhaps or simply joining a club that gets you out with others on a
real hike.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

On Tue, 06 May 2008 17:03:43 +1200, Quentin Grady
<quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:14:02 +1000, Alan S
><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:33:17 +1200, Quentin Grady
>><quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>I've been reading Jenny's book
>>
>>How did you order? I'm a bit grumpy with Amazon; after I
>>paid they advised delivery in late July. Jenny assures me
>>they will be quicker, but still...
>
>I ordered from Barnes and Noble. I opted for the intermediate
>international mail rate. Let me say I think you'll thoroughly enjoy
>JENNY's book. It even mentions a diabetic activist called Alan S.
>Wonder who that could be.
>
>>In the meantime I'm reading a totally fascinating book by a
>>guy who keeps digressing to ruminations about a Farmer's
>>Market:-)
>
>A good point well made. Out books are different in their intent.
>If you're looking for one on diabetes, read Jenny's book. She is
>above all intelligent and reaches simple to follow sound conclusions
>from the scientific evidence available on the subject. I think her
>book is marvelous.
>
>Mine is a book with a different intention. It is a book that engages
>readers in learning for themselves what changes they could make that
>would benefit them. As a writer the most gratifying feedback has been
>the number of blokes who have after decades of disinterest taken an
>interest in shopping and cooking.
>
>What is the book about? Well, it is a personal story about the
>positive attributes of being a bloke and how we handle adversity. When
>I started writing I wasn't aware what a powerful role the Farmer's
>Market would play in my story. I wrote about it because things
>happened there that were worth writing about. They illustrated some
>point or other. The Farmers Market has developed into a wonderful
>place to observe the very best in human nature. Each Sunday people
>roll up with their families to enjoy the music, to meet friends, share
>good food. Think of it as local free concert every day it is fine.
>It brings out the best in human nature.
>
>I'm glad you're enjoying it. Most people pass on their copy to a
>friend who passes it on to another friend. I received an order last
>Friday from the University bookshop in the further most part of New
>Zealand. How they came to know of me I don't know.
>
I'm confident that in a while you'll be hearing of orders
from Harvard.

My copy will be passed on to my kids first.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Is Testing Worthwhile?
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

Quentin Grady <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 19:53:59 -0400, Jefferson <Jefferson@comcast.net>
> wrote:

>>I live near the Appalachian Trail in Maryland. I was doing some hiking
>>on the Trail prior to rupturing an Achilles tendon. I am a little leery
>>about going out on the Trail by myself since then. The virtual hike is
>>not quite like the real thing. I wore out the soles on some boots on
>>one hike over a lot of rocks. Also the temperature was near 90 degrees
>>F. The slopes can also be very steep in some places. Nevertheless
>>congratulations on your success. I'm staying on the bike close to home
>>now, but it is not as vigorous as the Nordic Track.
>>
>>Frank

> G'day G'day Frank,

> IMHO the key to sustainable exercise is making it part of
> something greater than yourself. Forest and Bird Societies seem a
> bit cuckoo to me yet they have a very positive attribute. They bring
> people together. Tramping by yourself besides being blood dangerous,
> at least in New Zealand, mean you miss out on the sustenance of
> companionship. So that ruptured Achilles tendon may be a blessing in
> disguise. (You probably don't feel that way. It's easier for someone
> else to do so if you see what I mean.)

> While Nordic Trainers and the like allow you to regulate your exercise
> and have all sorts of benefits there is one thing they don't do that
> the real thing does. They don't provide the "uneven ground"
> stimulation of the ankles. This is reported to stimulate blood flow
> to the feet. IIRC it reduced peripheral arterial disease. I may that
> wrong in detail but the general idea was important. Worth looking up
> perhaps or simply joining a club that gets you out with others on a
> real hike.

I think there are benefits to legs, hips, and back from uneven ground,
not just ankles and feet. If you walk on paved surfaces you get into a
groove where you repeatedly make exactly the same movements. That's a
very restricted kind of exercise. Whereas on uneven ground, especially
if it's uneven enough that you have to select where to place your
feet, you can't hold a consistent stride, you sway all over the place,
your have to keep recovering balance, etc.. All your joints get
pushed further from their habitual comfortable envelopes, as do the
muscles and tendons which control them.

Walking on increasingly rough ground was an important part of
recovering strength and mobility in my back after injuring it badly.

If you walk on rough ground with thin soles you also get the benefit
of a serious foot massage while you walk, and if the ground is rocky
enough to give only partial foot support you use all those little
muscles controlling differential foot movement which are normally
completely passive in stout footwear. My guess is that if you have
circulation problems in your feet all this can only be beneficial.

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

On Tue, 06 May 2008 15:24:07 +1000, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm confident that in a while you'll be hearing of orders
>from Harvard.
>
>My copy will be passed on to my kids first.
>
>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

G'day G'day Alan,

When compared to "international best sellers" my sales are
miniscule. To me though they are personal and fantastic. The book
really matters to the people who read it. For many of them they feel
compelled to stop me at the market or in the street as it were thanks
to recognising me from the photo on the back of books to tell me what
a difference to their lives or of their loved ones. That's what
counts most to me. To my surprise I was stopped last Sunday by a
successful nutritionist practicing locally blown away with the
knowledge bank he'd tapped into reading my book.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:33:48 +1200, Quentin Grady
<quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 May 2008 15:24:07 +1000, Alan S
><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm confident that in a while you'll be hearing of orders
>>from Harvard.
>>
>>My copy will be passed on to my kids first.
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>
>G'day G'day Alan,
>
> When compared to "international best sellers" my sales are
>miniscule. To me though they are personal and fantastic. The book
>really matters to the people who read it. For many of them they feel
>compelled to stop me at the market or in the street as it were thanks
>to recognising me from the photo on the back of books to tell me what
>a difference to their lives or of their loved ones. That's what
>counts most to me. To my surprise I was stopped last Sunday by a
>successful nutritionist practicing locally blown away with the
>knowledge bank he'd tapped into reading my book.
>
>Best wishes,

The only one surprised about the response is you:-)



Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

On 7 May 2008 00:43:21 GMT, Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
wrote:

>I think there are benefits to legs, hips, and back from uneven ground,
>not just ankles and feet. If you walk on paved surfaces you get into a
>groove where you repeatedly make exactly the same movements. That's a
>very restricted kind of exercise. Whereas on uneven ground, especially
>if it's uneven enough that you have to select where to place your
>feet, you can't hold a consistent stride, you sway all over the place,
>your have to keep recovering balance, etc.. All your joints get
>pushed further from their habitual comfortable envelopes, as do the
>muscles and tendons which control them.

G'day G'day Chris,

Thank you for extending this theme. It is so important. Reading
your post has helped me recall an article I read some time ago about
balance and the elderly. They benefit from chaos. A little bit of
randomness helps them keep better balance. If they only walk on even
ground they are more likely to have falls. Some scientist had
experimented with giving them slightly wobbly shoes to stimulate their
brains to respond to chaos appropriately. It has been a while since
I read the article so I may be experiencing some slippage in the
details. The general idea though was to encourage the "recovering
balance" that you have mentioned.

Best wishes
Quentin.

>Walking on increasingly rough ground was an important part of
>recovering strength and mobility in my back after injuring it badly.
>
>If you walk on rough ground with thin soles you also get the benefit
>of a serious foot massage while you walk, and if the ground is rocky
>enough to give only partial foot support you use all those little
>muscles controlling differential foot movement which are normally
>completely passive in stout footwear. My guess is that if you have
>circulation problems in your feet all this can only be beneficial.
>
>--
>Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #20
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:33:48 +1200, Quentin Grady posted:

>On Tue, 06 May 2008 15:24:07 +1000, Alan S
><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm confident that in a while you'll be hearing of orders
>>from Harvard.
>>
>>My copy will be passed on to my kids first.
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>
>G'day G'day Alan,
>
> When compared to "international best sellers" my sales are
>miniscule. To me though they are personal and fantastic. The book
>really matters to the people who read it. For many of them they feel
>compelled to stop me at the market or in the street as it were thanks
>to recognising me from the photo on the back of books to tell me what
>a difference to their lives or of their loved ones. That's what
>counts most to me. To my surprise I was stopped last Sunday by a
>successful nutritionist practicing locally blown away with the
>knowledge bank he'd tapped into reading my book.

That's great, Quentin! I know I'd be incredibly chuffed if I could
write something that helped people. I'm anxiously awaiting the next
North American importation.

Quentin Grady <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> On 7 May 2008 00:43:21 GMT, Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
> wrote:

>>I think there are benefits to legs, hips, and back from uneven ground,
>>not just ankles and feet. If you walk on paved surfaces you get into a
>>groove where you repeatedly make exactly the same movements. That's a
>>very restricted kind of exercise. Whereas on uneven ground, especially
>>if it's uneven enough that you have to select where to place your
>>feet, you can't hold a consistent stride, you sway all over the place,
>>your have to keep recovering balance, etc.. All your joints get
>>pushed further from their habitual comfortable envelopes, as do the
>>muscles and tendons which control them.

> G'day G'day Chris,

> Thank you for extending this theme. It is so important. Reading
> your post has helped me recall an article I read some time ago about
> balance and the elderly. They benefit from chaos. A little bit of
> randomness helps them keep better balance. If they only walk on even
> ground they are more likely to have falls. Some scientist had
> experimented with giving them slightly wobbly shoes to stimulate their
> brains to respond to chaos appropriately. It has been a while since
> I read the article so I may be experiencing some slippage in the
> details. The general idea though was to encourage the "recovering
> balance" that you have mentioned.

My own take on the worsening balance of the elderly is that it's
certainly partly due to aging of the balance sensor. You can test your
balance sensor (the inner ear labyrinth) by standing on one leg with
your eyes closed. At age 65 that's getting pretty difficult for
me. But I notice that if I practice at it I get better. And I've read
research reports suggesting that making old folk practice balancing
exercises improves their balance and reduces their liability to falls.

So I suspect that balancing is one more in the list of things which
old folk get a lot worse at because they find a certain amount of
degeneration discouraging, and stop going there. Like they're a bit
tired and achey so they take less exercise. Which in turn reduces the
strength of their muscles. Which makes them more tired and achey. A
vicious spiral of degeneration.

I think the same thing happens with balance. Once you start feeling a
little uncerain on your feet, and falls hurt more, you make a point of
avoiding doing anything which needs you to concentrate on
balancing. Too risky. They don't go there any more. And therefore the
now less used capacity degenerates more through disuse.

So I also make a point of incorporating opportunities to practise
balance into my daily life. I've deliberately left the coffee jar at
an awkward place in the kitchen which means I have to balance on one
leg and reach far out with my arm, balancing myself with the other leg
outstretched at the other side, to get the coffee. I can stabilise
myself with the other hand, but I avoid doing that unless it's really
necessary. Which means I do a difficult balancing exercise every
morning :-)

More generally I just take opportunities to do a bit of balancing
practice when it's easily and safely doable. And whenever I have
something to do that makes me focus a lot on balancing, I notice that
I get increasingly better at it as the days pass.

I also suspect there's a meta effect: if you keep practising different
things to improve, you get better at improving by practice :-)

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

On May 4, 8:34*am, Gary Woods <garyuse...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I'm working on a virtual trip up the Appalachian
> Trail: *got the trail guides, and mark off the distance traveled at each
> workout. *So far, I've got from Georgia to Tennessee, heading eventuallyto
> Maine.

That's really cool. Much better than staring at my messy garage where
my treadmill is. I've really got to do something about that garage.
Right now, my solution is to just skip the treadmill and walk outside
now that it's nice and warm. That way I don't have to see the garage.

Congrats on the great numbers. BTW, what was your HDL number?

John C.

On May 4, 6:41*pm, Gary Woods <garyuse...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I spent some time trying to find subs from a patrol aircraft many many
> years ago, and I was amused to find mention in Tom Clancy's book of things
> I thought were highly classified.

What a coincidence. I thought the same thing about those same aircraft/
programs when I read the book. Used to work on those aircraft which
shall not be mentioned.

John C.

On May 6, 1:03*am, Quentin Grady <quen...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:14:02 +1000, Alan S
>
> <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mon, 05 May 2008 10:33:17 +1200, Quentin Grady
> ><quen...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
> >>I've been reading Jenny's book
>
> >How did you order? I'm a bit grumpy with Amazon; after I
> >paid they advised delivery in late July. Jenny assures me
> >they will be quicker, but still...
>
> I ordered from Barnes and Noble. *I opted for the intermediate
> international mail rate. * Let me say I think you'll thoroughly enjoy
> JENNY's book. *It even mentions a diabetic activist called Alan S.
> Wonder who that could be.
>
> >In the meantime I'm reading a totally fascinating book by a
> >guy who keeps digressing to ruminations about a Farmer's
> >Market:-)
>
> A good point well made. Out books are different in their intent.
> If you're looking for one on diabetes, read Jenny's book. *She is
> above all intelligent and reaches simple to follow sound conclusions
> from the scientific evidence available on the subject. *I think her
> book is marvelous. *
>
> Mine is a book with a different intention. *It is a book that engages
> readers in learning for themselves what changes they could make that
> would benefit them. *As a writer the most gratifying feedback has been
> the number of blokes who have after decades of disinterest taken an
> interest in shopping and cooking. * *
>
> What is the book about? * Well, it is a personal story about the
> positive attributes of being a bloke and how we handle adversity. When
> I started writing I wasn't aware what a powerful role the Farmer's
> Market would play in my story. I wrote about it because things
> happened there that were worth writing about. *They illustrated some
> point or other. * The Farmers Market has developed into a wonderful
> place to observe the very best in human nature. * Each Sunday people
> roll up with their families to enjoy the music, to meet friends, share
> good food. *Think of it as local free concert every day it is fine.
> It brings out the best in human nature. *
>
> I'm glad you're enjoying it. *Most people pass on their copy to a
> friend who passes it on to another friend. * I received an order last
> Friday from the University bookshop in the further most part of New
> Zealand. How they came to know of me I don't know.
>
> >Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> >d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> >Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
>
> Best wishes,
> --
> Quentin Grady * * * ^ *^ */
> New Zealand, * * * >#,#< [
> * * * * * * * * * * / \ /\ * *
> "... and the blind dog was leading."
>
> http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

I'd love a signed copy. If that's at all possible, Quentin, please let
me know.

John C.

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Chris Malcolm wrote:

> My own take on the worsening balance of the elderly is that it's
> certainly partly due to aging of the balance sensor. You can test your
> balance sensor (the inner ear labyrinth) by standing on one leg with
> your eyes closed. At age 65 that's getting pretty difficult for
> me. But I notice that if I practice at it I get better. And I've read
> research reports suggesting that making old folk practice balancing
> exercises improves their balance and reduces their liability to falls.


Balance in the elderly is vastly improved by high doses of vitamin D3,
and falls reduced. Deficiencies are very widespread, more often the
case than not.

Putting my mother on D3 improved her balance a great deal.

Susan

On Wed, 07 May 2008 09:35:54 -0400, Susan
<nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:

>Balance in the elderly is vastly improved by high doses of vitamin D3,
>and falls reduced. Deficiencies are very widespread, more often the
>case than not.
>
>Putting my mother on D3 improved her balance a great deal.
>
>Susan

Are you aware of any studies relating the need for vitamin D
to climate and latitude?

Everything I read at the moment indicates that D
supplementation may be useful to all, not just the elderly.
However, the vast majority of those reports are from the
Northern latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere. I'm dubious
that that is relevant living where I live.

I'm specifically interested at the moment because my mother
has had a recent fall, but she takes too many pills now and
I don't want to suggest another supplement unless there is a
clear need.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

Alan S wrote:
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 09:35:54 -0400, Susan
> <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>> Balance in the elderly is vastly improved by high doses of vitamin D3,
>> and falls reduced. Deficiencies are very widespread, more often the
>> case than not.
>>
>> Putting my mother on D3 improved her balance a great deal.
>>
>> Susan
>
> Are you aware of any studies relating the need for vitamin D
> to climate and latitude?
>
> Everything I read at the moment indicates that D
> supplementation may be useful to all, not just the elderly.
> However, the vast majority of those reports are from the
> Northern latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere. I'm dubious
> that that is relevant living where I live.
>
> I'm specifically interested at the moment because my mother
> has had a recent fall, but she takes too many pills now and
> I don't want to suggest another supplement unless there is a
> clear need.
>
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
> Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
> and Cambodia
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

vitamin D is essential to absorption of calcium...........not 'just
calcium' but a 'bone building calcium' product that contains manganese,
Vit D, etc etc

but ask her Dr if she should be taking a product like this while healing
(makes sense that it would be a good idea, but ya never know, eh)

--
kate
type 1 since 1987
www.diabetic-talk.org

On Wed, 07 May 2008 20:47:59 -0600, Tiger_Lily
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

>vitamin D is essential to absorption of calcium...........not 'just
>calcium' but a 'bone building calcium' product that contains manganese,
>Vit D, etc etc
>
No argument - my question was related to the fact that vit D
is also related to sunlight absorption and much less likely
to be deficient in my locality.

>but ask her Dr if she should be taking a product like this while healing
>(makes sense that it would be a good idea, but ya never know, eh)

Will do if it's needed.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
and Cambodia
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html

In article <h2v4245icf9ojapfomkr5f8t9acleoj8mn@4ax.com>,
Alan S <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 May 2008 20:47:59 -0600, Tiger_Lily
> <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >vitamin D is essential to absorption of calcium...........not 'just
> >calcium' but a 'bone building calcium' product that contains manganese,
> >Vit D, etc etc
> >
> No argument - my question was related to the fact that vit D
> is also related to sunlight absorption and much less likely
> to be deficient in my locality.

It's apparently blocked by sunscreen, so if folks are religious about
slathering up before they go outdoors, they're blocking Vit D generation
along with the sun's rays.

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This, apparently, upsets the fools."
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