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Old 11-06-2007, 04:29 PM
D.
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A fellow diabetic is raving about DAFNE, following a
5-day course he attended.
To me (as a type 1 diabetic for 50 years), the main
issue with DAFNE appears to be the freedom to eat,
which isn't a major concern to me.
On researching DAFNE on the internet, I find very
few references to it in medical journals, and what few
occur tend to be dated during 2001-2003, which I
find strange if it is such a ground-breaking exercise.
I wondered whether anyone using this ng had an
opinion.
Secondly, DAFNE appears to issue a specific guidebook
in which foods are converted into either the amount of carbo,
or the insulin required.
Does anyone know if this is available on the internet?
Thanks.

D.


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Old 11-06-2007, 07:24 PM
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D. wrote:
> A fellow diabetic is raving about DAFNE, following a
> 5-day course he attended.
> To me (as a type 1 diabetic for 50 years), the main
> issue with DAFNE appears to be the freedom to eat,
> which isn't a major concern to me.
> On researching DAFNE on the internet, I find very
> few references to it in medical journals, and what few
> occur tend to be dated during 2001-2003, which I
> find strange if it is such a ground-breaking exercise.
> I wondered whether anyone using this ng had an
> opinion.
> Secondly, DAFNE appears to issue a specific guidebook
> in which foods are converted into either the amount of carbo,
> or the insulin required.
> Does anyone know if this is available on the internet?
> Thanks.
>


Training in flexible, intensive insulin management to enable dietary
freedom in people with type 1 diabetes: dose adjustment for normal
eating (DAFNE) randomised controlled trial

DAFNE Study Group.
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/325/7367/746

This article has some articles citing it.

Old Al who used to participate in this newsgroup practiced DAFNE.
Threads involving Old Al and DAFNE - http://tinyurl.com/25cuy7

Frank
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:47 PM
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:47:38 -0500, Jefferson
<fwroy@adelphia.netexopheno> wrote:

>D. wrote:
>> A fellow diabetic is raving about DAFNE, following a
>> 5-day course he attended.
>> To me (as a type 1 diabetic for 50 years), the main
>> issue with DAFNE appears to be the freedom to eat,
>> which isn't a major concern to me.
>> On researching DAFNE on the internet, I find very
>> few references to it in medical journals, and what few
>> occur tend to be dated during 2001-2003, which I
>> find strange if it is such a ground-breaking exercise.
>> I wondered whether anyone using this ng had an
>> opinion.
>> Secondly, DAFNE appears to issue a specific guidebook
>> in which foods are converted into either the amount of carbo,
>> or the insulin required.
>> Does anyone know if this is available on the internet?
>> Thanks.
>>

>
>Training in flexible, intensive insulin management to enable dietary
>freedom in people with type 1 diabetes: dose adjustment for normal
>eating (DAFNE) randomised controlled trial
>
>DAFNE Study Group.
>http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/325/7367/746
>
>This article has some articles citing it.
>
>Old Al who used to participate in this newsgroup practiced DAFNE.
>Threads involving Old Al and DAFNE - http://tinyurl.com/25cuy7
>
>Frank



in order to correctly understand AND practice DAFNE safely you need to
know how to count carbs correctly. The USDA has an online database
you can download for free or you can buy any number of different carb
counting books at any local bookstore, walmart, k-mart, drug stores
have them too. Personally I recommend the one at this web site
http://www.calorieking.com because it breaks down individual foods as
well as meals from various fast food and full service restaurants.
(and you do not have to buy it online. you can buy it at places like
walmart or k-mart brand new and get it automatically at a discounted
price.)

The other thing you have to know is your own insulin to carb ratios,
and insulin to BG ratios. There is NO one size fits all in this
regard. You can learn what they are by reading the how to section at
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org . The same info applies for pumpers
and non-pumpers. But those not pumping will need more help from their
doctor to get their basal insulin adjusted correctly if it is not
already.

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Old 11-06-2007, 11:56 PM
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If you are counting carbs and adjusting insulin doses to suit then you are
already doing DAFNE>

"D." <Dnospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> A fellow diabetic is raving about DAFNE, following a
> 5-day course he attended.
> To me (as a type 1 diabetic for 50 years), the main
> issue with DAFNE appears to be the freedom to eat,
> which isn't a major concern to me.
> On researching DAFNE on the internet, I find very
> few references to it in medical journals, and what few
> occur tend to be dated during 2001-2003, which I
> find strange if it is such a ground-breaking exercise.
> I wondered whether anyone using this ng had an
> opinion.
> Secondly, DAFNE appears to issue a specific guidebook
> in which foods are converted into either the amount of carbo,
> or the insulin required.
> Does anyone know if this is available on the internet?
> Thanks.
>
> D.
>
>



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