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10-02-2007, 01:05 PM
| | | Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. The one optimal amount of food for everybody (omer) is also the
optimal amount for the active athlete.
Irrefutable facts to consider:
(1) There has not been a single example of a Tour de France cyclist
dying of starvation (ie not eating enough) during the event.
(2) Nor has there been a single example of a Tour de France cyclist
winning the event by eating more than all his competitors.
(3) The cyclist most able to win the Tour de France event is the one
who is the hungriest because of doing everything right (right amount
of food, right kinds of food, right kind of people, and right kind of
work/training).
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. | 
10-02-2007, 01:05 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc12@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>The one optimal amount of food for everybody (omer) is also the
>optimal amount for the active athlete.
>
>Irrefutable facts to consider:
>
>(1) There has not been a single example of a Tour de France cyclist
>dying of starvation (ie not eating enough) during the event.
>
>(2) Nor has there been a single example of a Tour de France cyclist
>winning the event by eating more than all his competitors.
>
>(3) The cyclist most able to win the Tour de France event is the one
>who is the hungriest because of doing everything right (right amount
>of food, right kinds of food, right kind of people, and right kind of
>work/training).
Here are some more irretuftable facts:
A one-pound package of pasta (16 oz) contains 8 servings (2 oz), and
each serving contains 210 calories, so the package itself contains
1680 calories.
Up that to two pounds, and that makes 3360 calories.
A world-class bicyclist's caloric intake during training/competition
season is around 7000 calories. Even pasta, in its dry form one of
the calorie-dense foods out there, when taken in a 2 pound chunk, only
comes up to about 3400 calories, or half the necessary intake.
Bottom line: you remain inconsistent and incorrect. | 
10-02-2007, 09:36 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >"The one optimal amount of food for everybody (omer) is also the
> >optimal amount for the active athlete." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
>
> >Silly, have you seen an nfl limeman eat?
>
> Or a sumo wrestler?
Those who are eating the optimal amount (omer) of food either are or
will become the healthiest (hungriest) among their peers.
Truth is simple.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. | 
10-02-2007, 09:36 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. In article <1191321300.163068.91700@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups. com>, heartdoc12@emorycardiology.com says...
> Irrefutable facts to consider:
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format love#@thetruth.com (#
being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away. | 
10-02-2007, 09:37 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. In article <1191349688.734968.154250@22g2000hsm.googlegroups. com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc15@emorycardiology.com> writes:
> convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > >"The one optimal amount of food for everybody (omer) is also the
> > >optimal amount for the active athlete." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > >Silly, have you seen an nfl limeman eat?
> >
> > Or a sumo wrestler?
>
> Those who are eating the optimal amount (omer) of food either are or
> will become the healthiest (hungriest) among their peers.
Then it is your opinion that this gentleman who just completed
50 marathons in 50 days (over 50 states) would have been
better off keeping his intake down to two pounds a day?
-- cary | 
10-02-2007, 09:37 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. On Oct 2, 6:35 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> The one optimal amount of food for everybody (omer) is also the
> optimal amount for the active athlete.
>
> Irrefutable facts to consider:
>
> (1) There has not been a single example of a Tour de France cyclist
> dying of starvation (ie not eating enough) during the event.
About 1/3 of the field drops out every year because they
bonk. It's not death, but the emotional letdown is close.
Not many athletes in other sports break down into tears.
> (2) Nor has there been a single example of a Tour de France cyclist
> winning the event by eating more than all his competitors.
They eat more than noncompetitors. The winners win by
grace of good genes.
> (3) The cyclist most able to win the Tour de France event is the one
> who is the hungriest because of doing everything right (right amount
> of food, right kinds of food, right kind of people, and right kind of
> work/training).
Greg Lemond trained by screwing his wife every night of his three
consecutive winning tours. Worse than that, the whole field
consorted with French people the moment they hung up their
cleats. | 
10-02-2007, 09:37 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. On Oct 2, 4:00 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> In article <1191349688.734968.154...@22g2000hsm.googlegroups. com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> writes:
>
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > >"The one optimal amount of food for everybody (omer) is also the
> > > >optimal amount for the active athlete." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
>
> > > >Silly, have you seen an nfl limeman eat?
>
> > > Or a sumo wrestler?
>
> > Those who are eating the optimal amount (omer) of food either are or
> > will become the healthiest (hungriest) among their peers.
>
> Then it is your opinion that this gentleman who just completed
> 50 marathons in 50 days (over 50 states) would have been
> better off keeping his intake down to two pounds a day?
Or that Japanese kid who won the Nathan's contest
for several years straight. Skinny as a rail. | 
10-02-2007, 11:44 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > >"The one optimal amount of food for everybody (omer) is also the
> > > >optimal amount for the active athlete." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
> > >
> > > >Silly, have you seen an nfl limeman eat?
> > >
> > > Or a sumo wrestler?
> >
> > Those who are eating the optimal amount (omer) of food either are or
> > will become the healthiest (hungriest) among their peers.
>
> Then it is your opinion that this gentleman who just completed
> 50 marathons in 50 days (over 50 states) would have been
> better off keeping his intake down to two pounds a day?
Unless you have been weighing his meals, you don't know that he has
not been eating two pounds of food per day.
Truth is simple.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. | 
10-02-2007, 11:44 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. In article <1191356695.497384.71950@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om> Ferd Farkel <frdfrkl@yahoo.com> writes:
> On Oct 2, 4:00 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <1191349688.734968.154...@22g2000hsm.googlegroups. com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> writes:
> >
> > > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > > satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > >"The one optimal amount of food for everybody (omer) is also the
> > > > >optimal amount for the active athlete." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
> >
> > > > >Silly, have you seen an nfl limeman eat?
> >
> > > > Or a sumo wrestler?
> >
> > > Those who are eating the optimal amount (omer) of food either are or
> > > will become the healthiest (hungriest) among their peers.
> >
> > Then it is your opinion that this gentleman who just completed
> > 50 marathons in 50 days (over 50 states) would have been
> > better off keeping his intake down to two pounds a day?
>
> Or that Japanese kid who won the Nathan's contest
> for several years straight. Skinny as a rail.
>
Yeah, yeah, yeah...what *I* want is to see how
he'd do down here in our annual how-many-jalapenos-can-you-
eat-in-ten-minutes contest.
-- cary | 
10-02-2007, 11:44 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. On Oct 2, 4:39 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> In article <1191356695.497384.71...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om> Ferd Farkel <frdf...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 4:00 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > > In article <1191349688.734968.154...@22g2000hsm.googlegroups. com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> writes:
>
> > > > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > > > satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > > >"The one optimal amount of food for everybody (omer) is also the
> > > > > >optimal amount for the active athlete." -- Andrew, in the Holy Spirit.
>
> > > > > >Silly, have you seen an nfl limeman eat?
>
> > > > > Or a sumo wrestler?
>
> > > > Those who are eating the optimal amount (omer) of food either are or
> > > > will become the healthiest (hungriest) among their peers.
>
> > > Then it is your opinion that this gentleman who just completed
> > > 50 marathons in 50 days (over 50 states) would have been
> > > better off keeping his intake down to two pounds a day?
>
> > Or that Japanese kid who won the Nathan's contest
> > for several years straight. Skinny as a rail.
>
> Yeah, yeah, yeah...what *I* want is to see how
> he'd do down here in our annual how-many-jalapenos-can-you-
> eat-in-ten-minutes contest.
Maybe he's a bizarre Japanese cyborg expressly designed
to dominate the sport of hot dog eating -- a living human
head living in perfect harmony with a robot body, probably
a Honda ASIMO. | 
10-03-2007, 02:21 AM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc16@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>Unless you have been weighing his meals, you don't know that he has
>not been eating two pounds of food per day.
But it can be reasonably determined (see the previous post about the
two pounds of pasta having about 3400 cals) that if he's even eating
5000 or 6000 calories per day, then, unless perhaps he's imbibing two
pounds of caviar, he's going to be consuming far more than two pounds
of food.
Truth is simple. Mathematics is absolute.
Bottom line:
You remain inconsistent, incorrect, and cowardly for dodging this
question. Your fellow "Born-Again christian" doctors in Georgia would
find you to be a fool and a charlatan if they knew what kind of
poppycock and proverbial snake oil you're trying to peddle. | 
10-03-2007, 04:40 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. "Archee Leech" <archie@antispam.ham> wrote in message
news:j5l5g3hr5rhdkk181ej97u8b1isivm7hcd@4ax.com...
> You remain inconsistent, incorrect, and cowardly for dodging this
> question. Your fellow "Born-Again christian" doctors in Georgia
> would
> find you to be a fool and a charlatan if they knew what kind of
> poppycock and proverbial snake oil you're trying to peddle.
But you're hardly in any position to judge anyone else when you're a
liar and a hypocrite, are you?
You need to address this little bit of nastiness before you give
anyone else a hard time: http://snipurl.com/leeech | 
10-03-2007, 04:40 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. friend Atlas Bugged wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
> > friend "Atlas Bugged" wrote:
> >> satan via another sockpuppet hissed:
> >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ff171ca5ea8a8?
>
> >>> You remain inconsistent, incorrect, and cowardly for dodging this
> >>> question. Your fellow "Born-Again christian" doctors in Georgia
> >>> would
> >>> find you to be a fool and a charlatan if they knew what kind of
> >>> poppycock and proverbial snake oil you're trying to peddle.
> >>
> >>But you're hardly in any position to judge anyone else when you're a
> >>liar and a hypocrite, are you?
> >>
> >
> > nothing he said about dung was false.
>
> It doesn't matter - no one has a reason to care or believe or
> disbelieve when the speaker himself has no credibility.
Without the LORD, Who is the truth, satan will never have credibility.
Without the LORD, all is vanity (Ecclesiastes).
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords. | 
10-03-2007, 04:40 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc9@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>friend Atlas Bugged wrote:
>> satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
>> > friend "Atlas Bugged" wrote:
>> >> satan via another sockpuppet hissed:
>> >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ff171ca5ea8a8?
>>
>> >>> You remain inconsistent, incorrect, and cowardly for dodging this
>> >>> question. Your fellow "Born-Again christian" doctors in Georgia
>> >>> would
>> >>> find you to be a fool and a charlatan if they knew what kind of
>> >>> poppycock and proverbial snake oil you're trying to peddle.
>> >>
>> >>But you're hardly in any position to judge anyone else when you're a
>> >>liar and a hypocrite, are you?
>> >>
>> >
>> > nothing he said about dung was false.
>>
>> It doesn't matter - no one has a reason to care or believe or
>> disbelieve when the speaker himself has no credibility.
>
>Without the LORD, Who is the truth, satan will never have credibility.
>
>Without the LORD, all is vanity (Ecclesiastes).
>
>Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
>http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
>
>Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
>
>Andrew <><
Note: Dr. Andy does not answer the question as to how his Two Pound
Omer approach could possibly satisfy the needs for a world-class
athlete that needs to consume 6000-7000 calories per day. | 
10-03-2007, 04:40 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. "Atlas Bugged" <atlasbuggedBYspam@gmail.com> wrote:
>"Archee Leech" <archie@antispam.ham> wrote in message
>news:j5l5g3hr5rhdkk181ej97u8b1isivm7hcd@4ax.com.. .
>> You remain inconsistent, incorrect, and cowardly for dodging this
>> question. Your fellow "Born-Again christian" doctors in Georgia
>> would
>> find you to be a fool and a charlatan if they knew what kind of
>> poppycock and proverbial snake oil you're trying to peddle.
>
>But you're hardly in any position to judge anyone else when you're a
>liar and a hypocrite, are you?
>
>You need to address this little bit of nastiness before you give
>anyone else a hard time:
>http://snipurl.com/leeech
>
What part of "You. Have. Been Trolled" are you not comprehending? | 
10-03-2007, 04:40 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. On Oct 3, 12:47 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartd...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> friend Atlas Bugged wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
> > > friend "Atlas Bugged" wrote:
> > >> satan via another sockpuppet hissed:
> > >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ff171ca5ea8a8?
>
> > >>> You remain inconsistent, incorrect, and cowardly for dodging this
> > >>> question. Your fellow "Born-Again christian" doctors in Georgia
> > >>> would
> > >>> find you to be a fool and a charlatan if they knew what kind of
> > >>> poppycock and proverbial snake oil you're trying to peddle.
>
> > >>But you're hardly in any position to judge anyone else when you're a
> > >>liar and a hypocrite, are you?
>
> > > nothing he said about dung was false.
>
> > It doesn't matter - no one has a reason to care or believe or
> > disbelieve when the speaker himself has no credibility.
>
> Without the LORD, Who is the truth, satan will never have credibility.
>
> Without the LORD, all is vanity (Ecclesiastes).
>
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Well, after that reply, "Atlas Bugged", maybe you ought to consider
whether or not Archie Leach might have a point in this instance. After
all, it ought to be clear to you by now what a fruitcake Andy is. If
it isn't, than you do have a problem, especially if you are even
prepared to entertain the possibility that I am "satan's sockpuppet"
rather than somebody who is just pissed off at Chung's presence here
in Usenet due to his massive vendetta against normality, sanity and
the rights of female Usenetters. | 
10-03-2007, 07:54 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. "Archie Leach" <archie@antispam.ham> wrote in message
news  k07g31u8t78et6o5dvf6bprp1hb1b6npu@4ax.com...
> What part of "You. Have. Been Trolled" are you not comprehending?
Oh, please. You have no idea what you're talking about.
There's a bigger picture - I was stalked, libeled, virus-attacked, etc.
Yes, I know I got trolled - too.
What part of "stop being an obnoxious prick and apologize -you fucked up"
are you not getting?
If you want to hunt k00ks or give others a hard time - even if they deserve
it - you first have to get your own shit together.
Otherwise, you have to STFU and let others do those jobs, because you then
aren't qualified. http://snipurl.com/leeech | 
10-04-2007, 11:39 PM
| | | Re: Daily Spirit-guided health tip for 10/2/07. In article <1191412053.942273.3100@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.c om> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc9@emorycardiology.com> writes:
> friend Atlas Bugged wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet hissed:
> > > friend "Atlas Bugged" wrote:
> > >> satan via another sockpuppet hissed:
> > >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ff171ca5ea8a8?
> >
> > >>> You remain inconsistent, incorrect, and cowardly for dodging this
> > >>> question. Your fellow "Born-Again christian" doctors in Georgia
> > >>> would
> > >>> find you to be a fool and a charlatan if they knew what kind of
> > >>> poppycock and proverbial snake oil you're trying to peddle.
> > >>
> > >>But you're hardly in any position to judge anyone else when you're a
> > >>liar and a hypocrite, are you?
> > >>
> > >
> > > nothing he said about dung was false.
> >
> > It doesn't matter - no one has a reason to care or believe or
> > disbelieve when the speaker himself has no credibility.
>
> Without the LORD, Who is the truth, satan will never have credibility.
>
> Without the LORD, all is vanity (Ecclesiastes).
24 There is nothing better for a man, than that he should eat and drink,
and that he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour.
This also I saw, that it was from the hand of God.
25 For who can eat, or who else can hasten hereunto, more than I?
-- Ecclesistes 2
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