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Old 11-08-2006, 10:14 PM
Glenn
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I opened a can of worms with my carb question. The reason I asked is
that my A1C is 11.7 and my glucose is high. I never have understood
"exchanges".
My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:14 PM
ray
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:00:39 +0000, Glenn wrote:

> I opened a can of worms with my carb question. The reason I asked is
> that my A1C is 11.7 and my glucose is high. I never have understood
> "exchanges".
> My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
> database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.


I appreciate the problem. When I was diagnosed in June last year my FBG
was around 300 and my A1C was 11. I'm no doc, but I can tell you what
worked for me. I immediately modified my diet - went severely low carb -
took out all I could. Started exercising - walking and bicycling for an
hour or so per day at least five days per week. And the doc put me on
metforming 3x500 daily. Within six months my A1C was 5.4. I heartily
recommend you read "Diabetes for Dummies" and Dr. Richard Bernstein's
"Diabetes Solution". There are also some books you might look at relating
to diet with "glycemic index" or something similar in the titles.

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Old 11-08-2006, 10:14 PM
ray
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:00:39 +0000, Glenn wrote:

> I opened a can of worms with my carb question. The reason I asked is
> that my A1C is 11.7 and my glucose is high. I never have understood
> "exchanges".
> My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
> database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.


As a P.S. - when you start reading nutrition labels, remember that your
concern is 'net carbs'; take 'total carbs' and subtract 'dietary fibre' to
get 'net carbs'. Also take a look at portion sizes. Most breads that have
lower carbs get there by reducing the portion size - that, of course, is
fine if you don't eat two slices to make up the difference. Another good
place to look for effect of portion size is milk vs half and half vs cream.

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Old 11-08-2006, 10:14 PM
autoclaveman2000@yahoo.com
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Hi, all I did was cut my carbs as much as I could stand and then
recorded what foods did what to me. Potatoes, bread, pasta, peas,
corn, cooked carrots and onions. all those were no no's until I got
under control and added a little carb at a time.
I also ate a lot of salads and fresh vegetables. I thought I was going
to turn into a rabbit. Hee Hee.

You are welcome here anytime and vent all you want. I know how
frustrating it is to get under control.

T2 since Dec. 2000
Metformin 700mg twice a day
Glipizide 5mg once a day
Unter control again at least at this moment in time and space.

Ira, the autoclave man

ray wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:00:39 +0000, Glenn wrote:
>
> > I opened a can of worms with my carb question. The reason I asked is
> > that my A1C is 11.7 and my glucose is high. I never have understood
> > "exchanges".
> > My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
> > database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.

>
> I appreciate the problem. When I was diagnosed in June last year my FBG
> was around 300 and my A1C was 11. I'm no doc, but I can tell you what
> worked for me. I immediately modified my diet - went severely low carb -
> took out all I could. Started exercising - walking and bicycling for an
> hour or so per day at least five days per week. And the doc put me on
> metforming 3x500 daily. Within six months my A1C was 5.4. I heartily
> recommend you read "Diabetes for Dummies" and Dr. Richard Bernstein's
> "Diabetes Solution". There are also some books you might look at relating
> to diet with "glycemic index" or something similar in the titles.


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Old 11-08-2006, 10:14 PM
Julie Bove
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"Glenn" <gdickso@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:Hw32h.6013$wX.752@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com. ..
> I opened a can of worms with my carb question. The reason I asked is
> that my A1C is 11.7 and my glucose is high. I never have understood
> "exchanges".
> My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
> database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.


Exchanges are super easy. 15 g of carb = 1 carb exchange. But I think your
problem goes beyond that. With numbers like those you seem not to know what
a carb is. I don't know of a program like you want. There might be one but
a simpler solution for you would be to stop all the carby foods. No bread,
cereal, rice, pasta, sweets, fruit, milk, etc. Get your numbers down and go
from there. If cutting the carbs still doesn't get your numbers down you
need meds, more meds, different meds and/or insulin.

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Old 11-08-2006, 10:14 PM
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"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
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>
> As a P.S. - when you start reading nutrition labels, remember that your
> concern is 'net carbs'; take 'total carbs' and subtract 'dietary fibre' to
> get 'net carbs'.


*depending on the country*
Some countries don't include the fibre/fiber in the total carbs amount
stated.
In the USA, fiber is a sub-section of total carbs so you would subtract it.
bj





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Old 11-08-2006, 10:14 PM
Susan
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x-no-archive: yes

Glenn wrote:
> I opened a can of worms with my carb question. The reason I asked is
> that my A1C is 11.7 and my glucose is high. I never have understood
> "exchanges".
> My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
> database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.


I think you're asking for software to track what you're eating?

I used fitday.com because it's free and I can customize the database
with my own foods, too.

They sell a desktop version, but I use the free online one.

Susan
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:14 PM
ray
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:28:33 +0000, bj wrote:

> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> newsan.2006.11.01.16.41.30.355848@zianet.com...
>>
>> As a P.S. - when you start reading nutrition labels, remember that your
>> concern is 'net carbs'; take 'total carbs' and subtract 'dietary fibre' to
>> get 'net carbs'.

>
> *depending on the country*
> Some countries don't include the fibre/fiber in the total carbs amount
> stated.
> In the USA, fiber is a sub-section of total carbs so you would subtract it.
> bj


You're probably correct. Since I've started reading the labels, I've not
been out of the US much.

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Old 11-08-2006, 10:15 PM
Pete Romfh
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Glenn wrote:

> My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
> database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.


I've had pretty good success with Calorie King (lost nearly 50 lbs so far)

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Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh
promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org


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Old 11-08-2006, 10:15 PM
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Take a look Heartsmart. Was made by a guy nurse I believe and he created it
for diabectics and it has a free version. the pay version i think is 20 oro
30 bucks lets you print out food and recipe and menu and shopping lists.
http://www.siestasoftware.com/hsmart.htm

Also he has a free gov database to look at foods tested by gov.

Give it a view. I use to use it and now use it for quick references to new
recipes for my new situation.

Best to you ,
Tony

"Pete Romfh" <promfhTAKE@OUThal-pc.org.invalid> wrote in message
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> Glenn wrote:
>
>> My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
>> database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.

>
> I've had pretty good success with Calorie King (lost nearly 50 lbs so far)
>
> --
> Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
> http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh
> promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org
>
>



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Old 11-08-2006, 10:15 PM
Cheri
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Great weight loss!!!

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Cheri

Pete Romfh wrote in message

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>I've had pretty good success with Calorie King (lost nearly 50 lbs so

far)
>
>--
>Pete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet.
>http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh
>promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org
>
>



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Old 11-08-2006, 10:15 PM
Priscilla H. Ballou
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In article <Hw32h.6013$wX.752@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
Glenn <gdickso@swbell.net> wrote:

> I opened a can of worms with my carb question. The reason I asked is
> that my A1C is 11.7 and my glucose is high. I never have understood
> "exchanges".
> My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
> database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.


www.fitday.com

Priscilla, T2
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:15 PM
Alan Moorman@visi.com
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>> I opened a can of worms with my carb question. The reason I asked is
>> that my A1C is 11.7 and my glucose is high. I never have understood
>> "exchanges".
>> My next question.... What is a good diet monitoring program with a food
>> database. You tell it what you ate and it plugs in all the numbers.

>

Actually, I think what you want it something that will help you set
up a given meal so you know how to fine tune it for carbs, etc.
BEFORE you eat it, right?

I once made a list of all the "exchanges" in the ADA exchange diet,
and then posted it on the kitchen wall. That way I could make a
meal, or a casserole, or whatever by using the proper proportions of
meat, veg, starch, etc.

I think the exchange diet is very workable if you just realise that
an "exchange" means a portion of a given food. Most are about a 1/2
cup. Some are a whole fruit, or a whole medium potato, for example.

If you can't make exchanges for you, just make or find one of the
"carb counting" books or lists so you can see how many carbs you are
intending to eat with the upcoming meal.

Both "exchanges" and "carb counting" are pretty much the same thing,
except, of course, that "carb counting" only deals with the carbs you
might eat in the meal, not the meat, fish, fat, etc.

Alan Moorman

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