neighbor jc101 wrote:
> neighbor fr.r...@free.fr wrote:
>
> > I definitely adopt this name: too cool "Faith Based Moderate Caloric
> > Restrictionnists' !!!
> > In fact since a double blind placebo controlled study regarding CR
> > with humans is totally
> > impossible, the only actual solution is to believe that results from
> > animals can extend to
> > humans; the future will tell us if this faith was right.
> >
> > By the way, the full text from this study is very interesting and ask
> > a lot of questions
> >
> > Francois Rose
>
> I am glad that this descriptive title FBMCR - Faith Based Moderate
> Calorie Restriction is appealing.
>
> Since the rodent data clearly shows that effective CR (40% less -
> daily 1500 calories in man) started in mid aged mice shortens
> lifespan : "The shift from AL-->CR increased mortality in 17- and 24-
> month-old mice..." it definitely requires a "leap of faith" to think
> that effective CR will increase lifespan used in middle aged or
> elderly adults, suggesting characteristics of religion. This "moderate
> CR" is a fine "religion of deprivation" for those for whom it is
> psychologically important.
>
> As long as these "moderate CR" adults don't move into "effective
> CR" (which is 40% off calories, BMI 18.5 or below) they will probably
> not shorten lifespan too much, as occurred in this study. I suspect
> that the means by which effective CR shortens lifespan initiated in
> adults is by causing low IGF-1 and other growth factors, inhibiting
> the replacement of lost senescent cells in all tissues from progenitor
> and stem cell populations. These growth factor starved stem cells
> cannot differentiate and repopulate lost cells without enough growth
> factors, so I suspect CR adults just wither away and become frail at a
> faster rate. Osteopenia would be an easily detectable early warning
> sign of this trend.
>
> Lowest mortality is at BMI 24.6 - 29.8 in elderly women PMID 17395851
>
> Lowest mortality is at BMI 24.0 in elderly men PMID 12859029
>
> So, best to ignore all this data and practice the religion of Faith
> Based Moderate Calorie Restriction. Leave the science to the faithless
> heathens.
Smarter to understand that calories have no practical utility either
in the sale or consumption of food.
A true scientist knows to weigh food in order to accurately quantify
it:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8812d72ab4e17?
Truth is simple.
May you and other dear neighbors have a blessedly wonderful 2008th
year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son
of Man ...
.... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...1e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
.... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...aa8f8a4d41360?
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic...
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
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