Fed up again!

"Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
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> People have mentioned stress in passing. Is it possible that you're
> ultra-stressed out by your husband's health problems?

Yes, I am. He is blaming me for everything and worse yet he is on the phone
to anyone and everyone who will listen, complaining to them about how I am
rejoicing at his soon to be death and how happy I am. Which of course is a
lie. I can't seem to escape the stress. When I try to get Angela out of
the house, he complains to me about that as though it were a bad thing. And
believe me, listening to him cough almost non-stop is stressful enough. I
also think (but can't prove) that he is doing a lot of the coughing on
purpose or at least making it sound a lot worse than it is. He will yell
and yell and keep coughing through the yelling. Anyone else would realize
that talking or yelling or whatever is making the coughing worse and stop,
but not him. Grrr...
>
> I kind of didn't believe that stress would really make a difference
> until the time my apartment management didn't finish a repair on time.
> They'd needed to tear down a wall in my bedroom to get access to a pipe
> that needed to be patches so it wouldn't spew water outside. Even though
> they'd promised it would be done in one day, it wasn't. I came from work
> to find an open wall and a mess in my bedroom, and no note telling me
> what was going on. At that time, my pre-dinner readings were usually in
> the 85-90 range, as I recall, but that day, it was something like 190.
>
Wow! That's horrible.

Worse in my case now, I got a call from the Dr. who said they can't see him
until they get authorization from our insurance and they haven't gotten it.
If he doesn't go in tomorrow, I don't know what I shall do. I can't take
much more of this.

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> a écrit ...
> For about the past week (not sure exactly and not gonna look), my BG has
> been out of control. My lowest numbers I've seen are 145 and that was
> with exercise to the point of pain. It doesn't seem to matter what I eat
> or don't eat. Although pretty much the only thing safe for me to eat
> (stomach-wise) is carbs. I can tolerate a small amount of ground beef,
> chicken, nuts, seeds, and bacon. Bought some more sausage today. Will
> try that again, but given my reaction the last couple of times I ate it, I
> am not too hopeful. It has been about a month since I threw anything up
> and I'd like to keep it that way! It seems to take me two days to recover
> from throwing up when I do it. And that in itself makes my BG all wonky.
> Hypos and highs. What with all my food allergies and the gastroparesis,
> there seems to be little safe to eat.
>
> They discovered that my husband has a mass on his kidney and he will be
> seeing a urologist on Fri. The stress from that isn't helping, I'm sure.
> I feel like I have to keep taking Angela out of the house as much as
> possible because if him. He seems to cough and puke almost continually
> and that is wearing to have to listen to. Drs. are not even addressing
> those things because of the mass. Which may be related. At least I think
> it may be the cause... But I digress.
>
> I saw my GP for a routine follow-up yesterday and he was displeased with
> my BG. Said I needed to be on insulin. But that he wasn't going to put
> me on it. Was going to let my Endo. do it. I don't see him till the 4th.
> I am not even sure he will do it. He didn't do it the last time. He said
> he might but then by some miracle, my A1c came down. It seems my A1c
> bears no relationship to the numbers I am seeing on my meter. When I am
> getting good numbers, my A1c is higher than I'd think it would be. When
> the numbers go up, the A1c comes down. He took my A1c (among other
> things) so we shall see what that is.
>
> So... I am fed up. I have decided to try to bake a gluten free, egg free,
> dairy free, nut free, alcohol free fruit cake for Xmas. Yes, candied
> fruit. Actually I am going to make little cupcake sized ones. And I am
> going to eat one. Out of frustration. Because I don't know what else to
> do. I do feel sorry for Angela. Both of her parents not in good shape
> now. And I know she is frustrated too. Anyway... End of rant.



Ohhh, dear Julie !

What can anyone say to help ? ... if there were a formula, I would say it.

As it is, your situation seems quite bad and I can only compare it to the
time I lost my wife after 30 years together.

I was bad .. I mean, really bad and although I never subscribed to self
pity,
I was close to it. I won't even say how out of order my regime was !

There would be days, almost weeks when I needed support and felt I didn't
get it, although I could have gone to see my friends as often as I wanted,
I didn't, preferring to save the visits to them and keep them still special.

Years later, I wished that I had relied on them more. They are still my
best
friends and although his wife is now depressed and I will try to do things
for them this xmas, my wife and her pregnancy must come first (she's due
on 21 dec, but I figure she will be late - hopefully after xmas).

As for hubby, I have to hope that all he has is a very bad throat infection.
I had an op. about 4 years ago that left me with the knowledge that I had
an adenoma on my prostate - fortunately benign (the Dr. said most are
benign)
but I sometimes wonder whether I should not get another scan and check
to ensure that it is not progressing ...

There, I rambled on to not much avail, except to say that I support you in
your travails and hope that you see your importance in here and at home
with your daughter. I have to say that mothers (mine in particular,
although
she is now deceased some 13 years ago - she left school at 13 and still
raised
a family of 5 children, all of whom made it to 50 years or more) often have
it hard being the support of all the family.

You have done admirably and continue to show an outstanding example to
Angela, who is absorbing everything that is going on, whether you realise it
or not. It was the case for my daughter, now 30.

Stay strong, find ways to 'air' your life and Angelas. You have lots of
support
in here and rant as much and as often as you feel like it.

Frank

" Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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>
> Ohhh, dear Julie !
>
> What can anyone say to help ? ... if there were a formula, I would say it.
>
> As it is, your situation seems quite bad and I can only compare it to the
> time I lost my wife after 30 years together.
>
> I was bad .. I mean, really bad and although I never subscribed to self
> pity,
> I was close to it. I won't even say how out of order my regime was !
>
> There would be days, almost weeks when I needed support and felt I didn't
> get it, although I could have gone to see my friends as often as I wanted,
> I didn't, preferring to save the visits to them and keep them still
> special.
>
> Years later, I wished that I had relied on them more. They are still my
> best
> friends and although his wife is now depressed and I will try to do things
> for them this xmas, my wife and her pregnancy must come first (she's due
> on 21 dec, but I figure she will be late - hopefully after xmas).

I do have good friends. They're just rather busy with the holidays and all.
>
> As for hubby, I have to hope that all he has is a very bad throat
> infection.
> I had an op. about 4 years ago that left me with the knowledge that I had
> an adenoma on my prostate - fortunately benign (the Dr. said most are
> benign)
> but I sometimes wonder whether I should not get another scan and check
> to ensure that it is not progressing ...

I don't think it's a throat infection. They said that at one point but he
has been on antibiotics for months now and now this mass on the kidney.
>
> There, I rambled on to not much avail, except to say that I support you in
> your travails and hope that you see your importance in here and at home
> with your daughter. I have to say that mothers (mine in particular,
> although
> she is now deceased some 13 years ago - she left school at 13 and still
> raised
> a family of 5 children, all of whom made it to 50 years or more) often
> have
> it hard being the support of all the family.

Thanks!
>
> You have done admirably and continue to show an outstanding example to
> Angela, who is absorbing everything that is going on, whether you realise
> it
> or not. It was the case for my daughter, now 30.
>
> Stay strong, find ways to 'air' your life and Angelas. You have lots of
> support
> in here and rant as much and as often as you feel like it.

Thanks!

Keep in mind men are big bratty baies when we get sick and lash out at loved
ones because we feel safe doing so..especially since we dont have the
cognitive brain power to express what we are really upset about..lol.
Sad but true.
When i was sick pre dx i was a mega jerk arse...i mean i always am but NEVER
to my wife..
I returned to normal after getting control and apologised profusely to my
wife.
Im sure hubby is frustrated that he is sick and cant be the strong person he
thinks himself to be.
It easier for a man to go to anger then accept helplesness or weakness

KROM



"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote>
> Yes, I am. He is blaming me for everything and worse yet he is on the
> phone to anyone and everyone who will listen, complaining to them about
> how I am rejoicing at his soon to be death and how happy I am. Which of
> course is a lie. I can't seem to escape the stress. When I try to get
> Angela out of the house, he complains to me about that as though it were a
> bad thing. And believe me, listening to him cough almost non-stop is
> stressful enough. I also think (but can't prove) that he is doing a lot
> of the coughing on purpose or at least making it sound a lot worse than it
> is. He will yell and yell and keep coughing through the yelling. Anyone
> else would realize that talking or yelling or whatever is making the
> coughing worse and stop, but not him. Grrr...

"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fjt3rj$u6g$1@aioe.org...
> Keep in mind men are big bratty baies when we get sick and lash out at
> loved ones because we feel safe doing so..especially since we dont have
> the cognitive brain power to express what we are really upset about..lol.
> Sad but true.
> When i was sick pre dx i was a mega jerk arse...i mean i always am but
> NEVER to my wife..
> I returned to normal after getting control and apologised profusely to my
> wife.
> Im sure hubby is frustrated that he is sick and cant be the strong person
> he thinks himself to be.
> It easier for a man to go to anger then accept helplesness or weakness

Oh he has been this way for years. Nothing new there. Just worse than
usual.

i meant theyd swing by the bakery for ya.
I so feel for you and the family with all the allergies..i'd go nuts..you
are a strong woman to go thru all this..my hat is most respectfully tipped
to you!

I loved nut filled fruitcakes..didnt like the fruiter ones.
Ya know i can eat strawberries and pinapple..i bet those would be a tasty
almost dessert snack if dried..
Anyone ever candy fruit with stuff like sorbitol or liquid splenda?
Maybe if you dipped the fruit in liquid splenda then dried it ..it would
make it like candied fruit?
hmmm..


KROM

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fjs3ps$co6$1@aioe.org...
>>I bet the 'rents would love to bring ya a treat from there on thier way to
>>visit..thus saving you making dessert.
>
> Nope. My mom doesn't like to cook. And nobody needs the dessert. Which
> is why I am torn about it. I don't personally believe anyone needs
> dessert, but it is a holiday and people seem to think they need
> something.
>>
>> I should probably ask in the food group but i just bought some almond
>> flour and carbquick and xylitol and sorbitol to try making my fav xmas
>> recipes...do you use almond flour and is there anything i should know
>> texture wise?
>
> I am allergic to almonds and can't do soy or any of the "tols".
>
>> I too love to bake and this time of year people expect me to make all the
>> desserts..which i will but i want to make things for em i can eat too
>> with them such as low carb russian teacakes aka mexican wedding
>> cakes..aka nut rolls..lol.
>> Plus i wanna make butter cookies etc.
>
> Can't have butter or eggs, so I am really limited as to what I can fix. I
> can do a fruit crisp with gluten free oatmeal and coconut oil. It comes
> out well. Alas, I like it a little too much and don't want to be tempted
> to eat it so I won't make it any more.
>>
>> I was thinking of doing a low carb cheesecake and pumpkin pie or sweet
>> potato pie i need to find out which spud spikes me less..least the trials
>> should be semi tasty...i hope..
>
> I made those gluten free pumpkin bars for Thanksgiving. I could live
> without them. Daughter didn't like them. The only one who really did
> like then was SIL and she's not coming over. So not making those again.
>
> The only reason I decided to make the fruitcake is that daughter has never
> tasted one before and she wanted to try the one my mom had at
> Thanksgiving. She couldn't because she was allergic. If I were making it
> for me, I would put nuts in it. Daughter hates nuts so it won't have any.
> It will mainly be the candied fruit with just enough batter to try to
> stick them all together. Heh.
>

"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>i meant theyd swing by the bakery for ya.

No. I don't generally eat desserts.

> I so feel for you and the family with all the allergies..i'd go nuts..you
> are a strong woman to go thru all this..my hat is most respectfully tipped
> to you!

Thanks.
>
> I loved nut filled fruitcakes..didnt like the fruiter ones.

Never had one with just fruit in it. But I will try it. Actually I might
make some with nuts and some without. I guess I could do that!

> Ya know i can eat strawberries and pinapple..i bet those would be a tasty
> almost dessert snack if dried..

Blech. I hate pineapple. Breaks my mouth out. I was buying some "Just
Strawberries", last Spring. I liked them okay. They didn't seem like a
dessert, but I quickly grew tired of them. I am just not a fruit person.
Fruitcake is different though.

> Anyone ever candy fruit with stuff like sorbitol or liquid splenda?

I don't think you can. It won't crystallize. And I can't eat any of the
"tols". They make me deathly ill. I don't know about liquid Splenda. If
we get it here, I've never seen it. Not that I've looked for it.

> Maybe if you dipped the fruit in liquid splenda then dried it ..it would
> make it like candied fruit?
> hmmm..

Nope. Candied fruit is often the peel of the fruit although there are some
whole fruits that are candied. I've tried to make it with sugar and it's a
pain in the butt. Takes days to do it right. Boiling and straining to get
the bitterness out. Then the candying. Going to just buy the stuff. I'm
only going to eat one.

"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fjt3rj$u6g$1@aioe.org...
> Keep in mind men are big bratty baies when we get sick and lash out at
> loved ones because we feel safe doing so..especially since we dont have
> the cognitive brain power to express what we are really upset about..lol.
> Sad but true.
> When i was sick pre dx i was a mega jerk arse...i mean i always am but
> NEVER to my wife..
> I returned to normal after getting control and apologised profusely to my
> wife.
> Im sure hubby is frustrated that he is sick and cant be the strong person
> he thinks himself to be.
> It easier for a man to go to anger then accept helplesness or weakness
>
> KROM

Speak for yourself, Bud! Not all men are as uncaring, immature and cowardly
as you say you are.

Don


> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote>
>> Yes, I am. He is blaming me for everything and worse yet he is on the
>> phone to anyone and everyone who will listen, complaining to them about
>> how I am rejoicing at his soon to be death and how happy I am. Which of
>> course is a lie. I can't seem to escape the stress. When I try to get
>> Angela out of the house, he complains to me about that as though it were
>> a bad thing. And believe me, listening to him cough almost non-stop is
>> stressful enough. I also think (but can't prove) that he is doing a lot
>> of the coughing on purpose or at least making it sound a lot worse than
>> it is. He will yell and yell and keep coughing through the yelling.
>> Anyone else would realize that talking or yelling or whatever is making
>> the coughing worse and stop, but not him. Grrr...
>
>

Aww then im sorry..
:-(

Well that makes you even stonger in my eyes for putting up with him and all
yer health issues etc.

KROM

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fjt3rj$u6g$1@aioe.org...
>> Keep in mind men are big bratty baies when we get sick and lash out at
>> loved ones because we feel safe doing so..especially since we dont have
>> the cognitive brain power to express what we are really upset about..lol.
>> Sad but true.
>> When i was sick pre dx i was a mega jerk arse...i mean i always am but
>> NEVER to my wife..
>> I returned to normal after getting control and apologised profusely to my
>> wife.
>> Im sure hubby is frustrated that he is sick and cant be the strong person
>> he thinks himself to be.
>> It easier for a man to go to anger then accept helplesness or weakness
>
> Oh he has been this way for years. Nothing new there. Just worse than
> usual.
>

Bah ok..i just know i like dried fruit even more then candied peels..well i
love lemon...but wanted somthing ultra sweet for the holidays..

KROM

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote
> Nope. Candied fruit is often the peel of the fruit although there are
> some whole fruits that are candied. I've tried to make it with sugar and
> it's a pain in the butt. Takes days to do it right. Boiling and
> straining to get the bitterness out. Then the candying. Going to just
> buy the stuff. I'm only going to eat one.
>

"Freckles" <puzzlement01@tx.rr.com> wrote:
> "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> [ . . . ]
> Speak for yourself, Bud! Not all men are as uncaring, immature and
> cowardly as you say you are.

I'm so lucky to have a loving, caring, understanding wife.
And she knows it!

--
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I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
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"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bah ok..i just know i like dried fruit even more then candied peels..well
> i love lemon...but wanted somthing ultra sweet for the holidays..

I love the peels! Candied orange peel used to be a favorite.

"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Aww then im sorry..
> :-(
>
> Well that makes you even stonger in my eyes for putting up with him and
> all yer health issues etc.

Thanks.

"Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> a écrit ...
> "Freckles" <puzzlement01@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>> "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> [ . . . ]
>> Speak for yourself, Bud! Not all men are as uncaring, immature and
>> cowardly as you say you are.
>
> I'm so lucky to have a loving, caring, understanding wife.
> And she knows it!



Let's hear it for the wives, gennermen !


I know I'm lucky to have mine ... she's gorgeous, 9 months pregnant
and still does all the housework while waiting for her daughter to arrive !

Hey, my wife is only 18 months older than my daughter.

On the other side, she says she wants nobody else but me ... she runs
to pick up things I drop on the ground (I have bad sciatica and am in
pain most of the time, hence my postings at all hours of the day) and
never once a complaint ...

OTOH, I am never ever irritated with her, never get upset and she
marvels at my calmness even when I'm in pain.

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> a écrit ...
>
> "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote ...
>> Aww then im sorry..
>> :-(
>>
>> Well that makes you even stonger in my eyes for putting up with him and
>> all yer health issues etc.
>
> Thanks.


In case you think KROM is overdoing the sincerity bit - I agree with him.

In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:16:42 +0100 in Msg.#
<47621fd1$0$22930$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net>, " Frank t2" <a@b.c>
wrote:

> Let's hear it for the wives, gennermen !

Let's hear it for the supportive partners!

--
DonnaB shallotpeel, T2 since June 06, USA, last HbA1c 5.3

"Your Merry Christmas may depend on what others do for you ... but your
Happy New Year depends on what you do for others." - Unknown

" Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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>
> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> a écrit ...
>>
>> "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote ...
>>> Aww then im sorry..
>>> :-(
>>>
>>> Well that makes you even stonger in my eyes for putting up with him and
>>> all yer health issues etc.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>
> In case you think KROM is overdoing the sincerity bit - I agree with him.

Thanks.

" Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote:
> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> a écrit ...
> > "Freckles" <puzzlement01@tx.rr.com> wrote:
> >> "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> [ . . . ]
> >> Speak for yourself, Bud! Not all men are as uncaring, immature and
> >> cowardly as you say you are.
> >
> > I'm so lucky to have a loving, caring, understanding wife.
> > And she knows it!
>
> Let's hear it for the wives, gennermen !
>
> I know I'm lucky to have mine ... she's gorgeous, 9 months pregnant
> and still does all the housework while waiting for her daughter to
> arrive!
>
> Hey, my wife is only 18 months older than my daughter.
>
> On the other side, she says she wants nobody else but me ... she runs
> to pick up things I drop on the ground (I have bad sciatica and am in
> pain most of the time, hence my postings at all hours of the day) and
> never once a complaint ...
>
> OTOH, I am never ever irritated with her, never get upset and she
> marvels at my calmness even when I'm in pain.

You are, indeed, one lucky cradle snatcher, Frank! I, too, have found that
always speaking in a gentle voice, with kind and loving words, ameliorates
the fact that I'm a jerk much of the time. "Thank you, honey" is so easy to
say!

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

" Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote:
> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> a écrit ...
> >
> > "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote ...
> >> Aww then im sorry..
> >> :-(
> >>
> >> Well that makes you even stonger in my eyes for putting up with him
> >> and all yer health issues etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> In case you think KROM is overdoing the sincerity bit - I agree with him.

When I spoke to my kid brother last weekend, he indicated remorse that he
has been yelling at his wife lately. She's quite a bit younger than him and
they've been married about 15 years. He's been T2 for over 25 years. I
asked him to send me a list of his meds, so I can check out if any of them
might be implicated in his behavior change. No reply yet. I'll 'big
brother' him this weekend. I don't want to fly from LA to Connecticut to
kick his butt!

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:10:15 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>"Alice Faber" <afaber@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:afaber-CD7DCC.18382313122007@reader1.panix.com...
>
>> People have mentioned stress in passing. Is it possible that you're
>> ultra-stressed out by your husband's health problems?
>
>Yes, I am. He is blaming me for everything and worse yet he is on the phone
>to anyone and everyone who will listen, complaining to them about how I am
>rejoicing at his soon to be death and how happy I am. Which of course is a
>lie. I can't seem to escape the stress. When I try to get Angela out of
>the house, he complains to me about that as though it were a bad thing. And
>believe me, listening to him cough almost non-stop is stressful enough. I
>also think (but can't prove) that he is doing a lot of the coughing on
>purpose or at least making it sound a lot worse than it is. He will yell
>and yell and keep coughing through the yelling. Anyone else would realize
>that talking or yelling or whatever is making the coughing worse and stop,
>but not him. Grrr...
>>


he needs counseling. Seriously. He needs help. It's not uncommon
especially in males with severe illness to react in this way. A dear
friend of mine was far worse when he was going through end stage renal
cancer.

He didn't mean everything he said and most of what he said was cruel
and heartless and some quite insane. He tested everyone's loyalty,
intentionally. This guy was loaded and would borrow money from people
who had little to as much as he did. He always paid it back within a
few days. But if you turned him down, he wouldn't speak to you for
days, while he went on and on ranting about how you betrayed him. Then
suddenly he forgot that it ever happened.

Your husband is no where near as bad as Don was. And knowing he has a
problem or might have a problem coping with his situation is no
justification for his hurting you.

That's why it is absolutely necessary for caregivers to know and
practice taking good care of themselves includes taking a break from
the sick people they are caring for in order to renew themselves.

Taking care of yourself is not betraying him, or abandoning him or
showing gratitude or impatience to see him die.

It is simply giving yourself what you need so that you can be there
for and yourself in the future.

>
>Worse in my case now, I got a call from the Dr. who said they can't see him
>until they get authorization from our insurance and they haven't gotten it.
>If he doesn't go in tomorrow, I don't know what I shall do. I can't take
>much more of this.
>

Call the insurance company yourself.

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:33:27 -0500, DonnaB shallotpeel
<shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote:

>In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:16:42 +0100 in Msg.#
><47621fd1$0$22930$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net>, " Frank t2" <a@b.c>
>wrote:
>
>> Let's hear it for the wives, gennermen !
>
>Let's hear it for the supportive partners!


Hear Hear!



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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
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I know if im especially cranky its often a high or low or simple a large
movment either way..its one way i know when to test.

Alot mood changes are health related so good lookin out for yer brother
nick.

KROM

"Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:20071214035226.006$Z0@newsreader.com...
>" Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> a écrit ...
>> >
>> > "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote ...
>> >> Aww then im sorry..
>> >> :-(
>> >>
>> >> Well that makes you even stonger in my eyes for putting up with him
>> >> and all yer health issues etc.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>> In case you think KROM is overdoing the sincerity bit - I agree with him.
>
> When I spoke to my kid brother last weekend, he indicated remorse that he
> has been yelling at his wife lately. She's quite a bit younger than him
> and
> they've been married about 15 years. He's been T2 for over 25 years. I
> asked him to send me a list of his meds, so I can check out if any of them
> might be implicated in his behavior change. No reply yet. I'll 'big
> brother' him this weekend. I don't want to fly from LA to Connecticut to
> kick his butt!
>
> --
> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
> They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

On 14 Dec 2007 08:44:33 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net>
wrote:
>
>You are, indeed, one lucky cradle snatcher, Frank! I, too, have found that
>always speaking in a gentle voice, with kind and loving words, ameliorates
>the fact that I'm a jerk much of the time. "Thank you, honey" is so easy to
>say!


especially when she has a cast iron skillet in one hand and a colt 45
holstered on her hip!...oh wait, that was my grandmother on my birth
mother's side. A real coal miner's daughter.

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:39:07 -0500, "Freckles" <puzzlement01@tx.rr.c
>> When i was sick pre dx i was a mega jerk arse...i mean i always am but
>> NEVER to my wife..
>> I returned to normal after getting control and apologised profusely to my
>> wife.

>Speak for yourself, Bud! Not all men are as uncaring, immature and cowardly
>as you say you are.
>
>Don

obviously you are neither a human male nor a diabetic male. as you are
unaware of what can actually happen when illness strikes.

Please continue jumping into the bottomless well of wrong conclusions.

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"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:39:07 -0500, "Freckles" <puzzlement01@tx.rr.c
>>> When i was sick pre dx i was a mega jerk arse...i mean i always am but
>>> NEVER to my wife..
>>> I returned to normal after getting control and apologised profusely to
>>> my
>>> wife.
>
>>Speak for yourself, Bud! Not all men are as uncaring, immature and
>>cowardly
>>as you say you are.
>>
>>Don
>
> obviously you are neither a human male nor a diabetic male. as you are
> unaware of what can actually happen when illness strikes.
>
> Please continue jumping into the bottomless well of wrong conclusions.

OBVIOUSLY, as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.

But as you may have noted in my post, I wrote "not all men are ** uncaring,
immature and cowardly" OBVIOUSLY you are not a man yet.

Grow Up, kid.



>
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"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
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> he needs counseling. Seriously. He needs help. It's not uncommon
> especially in males with severe illness to react in this way. A dear
> friend of mine was far worse when he was going through end stage renal
> cancer.

Yep. But most likely it's not going to happen.
>
> He didn't mean everything he said and most of what he said was cruel
> and heartless and some quite insane. He tested everyone's loyalty,
> intentionally. This guy was loaded and would borrow money from people
> who had little to as much as he did. He always paid it back within a
> few days. But if you turned him down, he wouldn't speak to you for
> days, while he went on and on ranting about how you betrayed him. Then
> suddenly he forgot that it ever happened.

Yep. Sounds typical.
>
> Your husband is no where near as bad as Don was. And knowing he has a
> problem or might have a problem coping with his situation is no
> justification for his hurting you.
>
I know.

> That's why it is absolutely necessary for caregivers to know and
> practice taking good care of themselves includes taking a break from
> the sick people they are caring for in order to renew themselves.

Yep.
>
> Taking care of yourself is not betraying him, or abandoning him or
> showing gratitude or impatience to see him die.

I know.
>
> It is simply giving yourself what you need so that you can be there
> for and yourself in the future.

Yep.
>
>>
>>Worse in my case now, I got a call from the Dr. who said they can't see
>>him
>>until they get authorization from our insurance and they haven't gotten
>>it.
>>If he doesn't go in tomorrow, I don't know what I shall do. I can't take
>>much more of this.
>>
>
> Call the insurance company yourself.

They won't deal with me. I'm not the activey duty person.

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:57:52 -0500, "Freckles"
<puzzlement01@tx.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
>news:cjn4m39os4brbuq99ie6j21s5qrd9m9v5n@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:39:07 -0500, "Freckles" <puzzlement01@tx.rr.c
>>>> When i was sick pre dx i was a mega jerk arse...i mean i always am but
>>>> NEVER to my wife..
>>>> I returned to normal after getting control and apologised profusely to
>>>> my
>>>> wife.
>>
>>>Speak for yourself, Bud! Not all men are as uncaring, immature and
>>>cowardly
>>>as you say you are.
>>>
>>>Don
>>
>> obviously you are neither a human male nor a diabetic male. as you are
>> unaware of what can actually happen when illness strikes.
>>
>> Please continue jumping into the bottomless well of wrong conclusions.
>
>OBVIOUSLY, as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.
>
>But as you may have noted in my post, I wrote "not all men are ** uncaring,
>immature and cowardly" OBVIOUSLY you are not a man yet.
>
>Grow Up, kid.
>
>

you also wrote "as you say you are." Attacking a type 2 for reacting
like a type 2.

I stand by my words, even though you are not man enough to do the
same.

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"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:57:52 -0500, "Freckles"
> <puzzlement01@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
>>news:cjn4m39os4brbuq99ie6j21s5qrd9m9v5n@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:39:07 -0500, "Freckles" <puzzlement01@tx.rr.c
>>>>> When i was sick pre dx i was a mega jerk arse...i mean i always am but
>>>>> NEVER to my wife..
>>>>> I returned to normal after getting control and apologised profusely to
>>>>> my
>>>>> wife.
>>>
>>>>Speak for yourself, Bud! Not all men are as uncaring, immature and
>>>>cowardly
>>>>as you say you are.
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>
>>> obviously you are neither a human male nor a diabetic male. as you are
>>> unaware of what can actually happen when illness strikes.
>>>
>>> Please continue jumping into the bottomless well of wrong conclusions.
>>
>>OBVIOUSLY, as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.
>>
>>But as you may have noted in my post, I wrote "not all men are **
>>uncaring,
>>immature and cowardly" OBVIOUSLY you are not a man yet.
>>
>>Grow Up, kid.
>>
>>
>
> you also wrote "as you say you are." Attacking a type 2 for reacting
> like a type 2.
>
> I stand by my words, even though you are not man enough to do the
> same.

You are a frigging NUT. I wrote what I wrote, nothing more, and you can read
whatever you want into it. I think maybe you have a serious problem.


> Måck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
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> http://www.diabetic-talk.org
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> http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"
> http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/
>
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the
> President, or that we are to stand by the President
> right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
> but is morally treasonable to the American public."
> ...Theodore Roosevelt
>
> (o ô)
> --ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------
>
> "I don't know half of you
> half as well as I should like;
> and I like less than half of you
> half as well as you deserve."
> ....Bilbo Baggins
>
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Oddly enough i cant see freckles post...dunno if i KF'd or its my
newserver..lol.
<shrug>

KROM

"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:57:52 -0500, "Freckles"
> <puzzlement01@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
>>news:cjn4m39os4brbuq99ie6j21s5qrd9m9v5n@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:39:07 -0500, "Freckles" <puzzlement01@tx.rr.c
>>>>> When i was sick pre dx i was a mega jerk arse...i mean i always am but
>>>>> NEVER to my wife..
>>>>> I returned to normal after getting control and apologised profusely to
>>>>> my
>>>>> wife.
>>>
>>>>Speak for yourself, Bud! Not all men are as uncaring, immature and
>>>>cowardly
>>>>as you say you are.
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>
>>> obviously you are neither a human male nor a diabetic male. as you are
>>> unaware of what can actually happen when illness strikes.
>>>
>>> Please continue jumping into the bottomless well of wrong conclusions.
>>
>>OBVIOUSLY, as usual you have no idea what you are talking about.
>>
>>But as you may have noted in my post, I wrote "not all men are **
>>uncaring,
>>immature and cowardly" OBVIOUSLY you are not a man yet.
>>
>>Grow Up, kid.
>>
>>
>
> you also wrote "as you say you are." Attacking a type 2 for reacting
> like a type 2.
>
> I stand by my words, even though you are not man enough to do the
> same.
>
> --
> Måck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
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> http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"
> http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/
>
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the
> President, or that we are to stand by the President
> right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
> but is morally treasonable to the American public."
> ...Theodore Roosevelt
>
> (o ô)
> --ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------
>
> "I don't know half of you
> half as well as I should like;
> and I like less than half of you
> half as well as you deserve."
> ....Bilbo Baggins
>
>
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