GI Question

Studying the GI in all kinds of foods. This is really helping me tighten BS
levels. What do you all think is the easiest/best source to look up info on
different foods? I have seen examples in books from the library, and
checked out some charts online. Just want the best, reputable source that
is easy to work with. I don't like PDF files too well.
Thanks in advance,
Kris
T2
1st A1c was 12.6 (371 AVG) - March 07
Meet w/dr. in 2 weeks...been avg. about 125 BS last 14 days...yeah!

Cougar wrote:
> Studying the GI in all kinds of foods. This is really helping me tighten BS
> levels. What do you all think is the easiest/best source to look up info on
> different foods? I have seen examples in books from the library, and
> checked out some charts online. Just want the best, reputable source that
> is easy to work with. I don't like PDF files too well.
> Thanks in advance,
> Kris
> T2
> 1st A1c was 12.6 (371 AVG) - March 07
> Meet w/dr. in 2 weeks...been avg. about 125 BS last 14 days...yeah!
>
>

The University of Sydney has a pretty good site at:
http://www.glycemicindex.com/

David Mendosa's site is also worth a read, but the data is a flatfile
vs. the one above which is searchable. David's site is:
http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm

Jim

On Sat, 12 May 2007 02:25:45 -0500, "Cougar"
<cougar_rocklightening@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Studying the GI in all kinds of foods. This is really helping me tighten BS
>levels. What do you all think is the easiest/best source to look up info on
>different foods? I have seen examples in books from the library, and
>checked out some charts online.

Jim's already given you the best links. I get the newsletter from the
University of Sydney site, just to check what they're up to.

Be a little wary of both G-index and G-load - double-check against
your meter to make sure foods are Kris-friendly. I've found that some
things which are, in theory, very low GL send me soaring : ( OTOH, I
put off eating carrots, because of their high GI, for a while - but I
can eat as many of them as I want. You still gotta test...

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.5% BMI 25

J.C. Hartmann <jch@meadecom.com> wrote:
> Cougar wrote:

>> Studying the GI in all kinds of foods. This is really helping me tighten BS
>> levels. What do you all think is the easiest/best source to look up info on
>> different foods? I have seen examples in books from the library, and
>> checked out some charts online. Just want the best, reputable source that
>> is easy to work with. I don't like PDF files too well.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Kris
>> T2
>> 1st A1c was 12.6 (371 AVG) - March 07
>> Meet w/dr. in 2 weeks...been avg. about 125 BS last 14 days...yeah!
>>
>>

> The University of Sydney has a pretty good site at:
> http://www.glycemicindex.com/

> David Mendosa's site is also worth a read, but the data is a flatfile
> vs. the one above which is searchable. David's site is:
> http://www.mendosa.com/gilists.htm

Note that GI is affected by preparation. For example, cooking longer
will often increase GI, and the difference between say al dente pasta
and slightly overcooked pasta can be very large. It's also affected by
how you eat, e.g. how much you chew your food before swallowing, how
fast you eat, etc. It's also affected by the individual biochemistry
of your digestion due to such things as genetics and disorders such as
diabetes.

In other words, the published GI tables are a good rough guide to
begin with, but you need to find out how *you* respond to that food as
*you* prepare it, eat it, and digest it.

Fortunately you have a BG meter which can tell you exactly that.

What you mustn't do is to have such reverence for the authority of
print that when it contradicts your own BG readings you believe the
print.

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

"Cougar" <cougar_rocklightening@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:134aqteecasuid4@corp.supernews.com...
> Studying the GI in all kinds of foods. This is really helping me tighten
> BS
> levels. What do you all think is the easiest/best source to look up info
> on
> different foods? I have seen examples in books from the library, and
> checked out some charts online. Just want the best, reputable source that
> is easy to work with. I don't like PDF files too well.
> Thanks in advance,
> Kris
> T2
> 1st A1c was 12.6 (371 AVG) - March 07
> Meet w/dr. in 2 weeks...been avg. about 125 BS last 14 days...yeah!

Hi Cougar,
seen these ?

http://www.diabetesnet.com/

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/gifoods.htm

http://gummy-stuff.org/glycemic.htm

http://www.nutritiondata.com/

hth
Gys

:-( my meter keeps tellign me i cant eat carrots..well i can a bit shredded
in a salad but not as a snack with dip..sigh.

KROM

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote > Be a little wary of both
G-index and G-load - double-check against
> your meter to make sure foods are Kris-friendly. I've found that some
> things which are, in theory, very low GL send me soaring : ( OTOH, I
> put off eating carrots, because of their high GI, for a while - but I
> can eat as many of them as I want. You still gotta test...
>
> Nicky.
> T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
> D&E, 100ug thyroxine
> Last A1c 5.5% BMI 25

"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f24977$m2a$1@aioe.org...
> :-( my meter keeps tellign me i cant eat carrots..well i can a bit
shredded
> in a salad but not as a snack with dip..sigh.

Do you like celery, peppers, broccoli etc? Raw? When I "dip" into salsa,
hommus, guacamole etc I use raw: mushrooms, cucumbers, celery, peppers.

Yep i like and eat all ove those in salads and dips...just cant handle the
carrots.
Can probably eat em pre workout tho...hmm..

KROM

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote
>
> Do you like celery, peppers, broccoli etc? Raw? When I "dip" into salsa,
> hommus, guacamole etc I use raw: mushrooms, cucumbers, celery, peppers.
>

Thank you for all the links and info!

Kris

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On Sat, 12 May 2007 11:00:00 +0100, Nicky
<ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 12 May 2007 02:25:45 -0500, "Cougar"
><cougar_rocklightening@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Studying the GI in all kinds of foods. This is really helping me tighten BS
>>levels. What do you all think is the easiest/best source to look up info on
>>different foods? I have seen examples in books from the library, and
>>checked out some charts online.
>
>Jim's already given you the best links. I get the newsletter from the
>University of Sydney site, just to check what they're up to.
>
>Be a little wary of both G-index and G-load - double-check against
>your meter to make sure foods are Kris-friendly. I've found that some
>things which are, in theory, very low GL send me soaring : ( OTOH, I
>put off eating carrots, because of their high GI, for a while - but I
>can eat as many of them as I want. You still gotta test...

G'day G'day Nicky,

You are not alone in being put of carrots thanks to there alleged
high GI. I say alleged because they were tested in the early days and
books copied those results. Then it was realised that the sample size
used was small and the high GI was a myth. Carrots have a relatively
low GI especially when eaten raw. Even when cooked they don't bump
most people's blood glucose much because there available carbohydrate
content is in fact low so they have a low Glycemic Load. IMHO eat
carrots freely and follow the standard dictum of testing for your own
response.

>Nicky.
>T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
>D&E, 100ug thyroxine
>Last A1c 5.5% BMI 25

Best wishes and thank you for bringing this little oddity to the
bright lights.
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

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On Sat, 12 May 2007 06:42:37 -0500, "krom"
<thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote:

>:-( my meter keeps tellign me i cant eat carrots..well i can a bit shredded
>in a salad but not as a snack with dip..sigh.
>
>KROM

Well said. We must all accept responsibility for self testing.
Raw food generally have a lower GI than cooked foods.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

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On Sun, 13 May 2007 09:49:18 +1000, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>
>"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:f24977$m2a$1@aioe.org...
>> :-( my meter keeps tellign me i cant eat carrots..well i can a bit
>shredded
>> in a salad but not as a snack with dip..sigh.
>
>Do you like celery, peppers, broccoli etc? Raw? When I "dip" into salsa,
>hommus, guacamole etc I use raw: mushrooms, cucumbers, celery, peppers.

G'day G'day Jan,

Great choices. What ever persuasion one has over the carbohydrate
issues these foods are all excellent choices for low calorie, high
water content foods that assist satiety.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

"Quentin Grady" <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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> This post not CC'd by email
> On Sun, 13 May 2007 09:49:18 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:f24977$m2a$1@aioe.org...
> >> :-( my meter keeps tellign me i cant eat carrots..well i can a bit
> >shredded
> >> in a salad but not as a snack with dip..sigh.
> >
> >Do you like celery, peppers, broccoli etc? Raw? When I "dip" into salsa,
> >hommus, guacamole etc I use raw: mushrooms, cucumbers, celery, peppers.

They make an excellent snack in my opinion. You can eat a fair bit without
causing a rise and have the added benefit of the veggies retaining their
vitamins because they are not being cooked.. One of my sons thought I was
weird this afternoon I ate a whole can of asparagus spears - 5 gr carb
for the whole tin, lol. He thought it was disgusting

Also great fiber!
:-)

KROM

"Quentin Grady" <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote >
> Great choices. What ever persuasion one has over the carbohydrate
> issues these foods are all excellent choices for low calorie, high
> water content foods that assist satiety.
>
> Best wishes,
> --
> Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
> New Zealand, >#,#< [
> / \ /\
> "... and the blind dog was leading."
>
> http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

I can eat a whole can pinnaple with no rise...wife thinks pinnaple is
gross..lol

KROM

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote .
>
> They make an excellent snack in my opinion. You can eat a fair bit without
> causing a rise and have the added benefit of the veggies retaining their
> vitamins because they are not being cooked.. One of my sons thought I was
> weird this afternoon I ate a whole can of asparagus spears - 5 gr carb
> for the whole tin, lol. He thought it was disgusting
>

"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f2c3jv$820$1@aioe.org...
> I can eat a whole can pinnaple with no rise...wife thinks pinnaple is
> gross..lol

I like pineapple but not a whole can. I prefer fresh but canned is
reasonable with ham steaks etc

"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f2c3hr$7h9$1@aioe.org...
> Also great fiber!

Absolutely!

On Tue, 15 May 2007 22:05:10 +1000, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>
>"krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:f2c3jv$820$1@aioe.org...
>> I can eat a whole can pinnaple with no rise...wife thinks pinnaple is
>> gross..lol
>
>I like pineapple but not a whole can. I prefer fresh but canned is
>reasonable with ham steaks etc


fresh pineapple is good on the barbi.

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I've been eating lots of carrot sticks with no problem, but I only
really like carrots raw. :-)

Cheri


Quentin Grady wrote in message

<3qoi43p35v9k7f6iom0fd31mdjddov4fr6@4ax.com>...
> You are not alone in being put of carrots thanks to there alleged
>high GI. I say alleged because they were tested in the early days
and
>books copied those results. Then it was realised that the sample
size
>used was small and the high GI was a myth. Carrots have a relatively
>low GI especially when eaten raw. Even when cooked they don't bump
>most people's blood glucose much because there available carbohydrate
>content is in fact low so they have a low Glycemic Load. IMHO eat
>carrots freely and follow the standard dictum of testing for your own
>response.

Mâck©® wrote:

> fresh pineapple is good on the barbi.
>

TMI, ken.

On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:01:33 -0400, Mâck©®
<shootspammers@deathtospam.net> wrote:

>>I like pineapple but not a whole can. I prefer fresh but canned is
>>reasonable with ham steaks etc
>
>
>fresh pineapple is good on the barbi.

Hmmm; sounds interesting, but SWMBO may object to me
checking the truth of that.

So may ken.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

LOL
Good one!

KROM

"J.C. Hartmann" <jch@meadecom.com> wrote in message
news:R7udnaxBvI3erNfbnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@giganews.com ...
> Mâck©® wrote:
>
>> fresh pineapple is good on the barbi.
>>
>
> TMI, ken.

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:33:51 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
wrote:

>I've been eating lots of carrot sticks with no problem, but I only
>really like carrots raw. :-)
>
>Cheri

G'day G'day Cheri,

Good on ya. Carrot sticks are excellent, unless of course you're
hoping they'll improve eyesight. <grin>

They don't. Carrots are a good source of beta-carotene. It makes
them orange. However there is no beta-carotene in the eye. None.
The orange pigment there is zeaxanthin, a sort of second cousin to
beta-carotene. Early chemists mistook zeaxanthin for beta-carotene.

Unfortunately carrots don't contain zeaxanthin or the related yellow
pigment lutein.

There was an interesting experiment reported on TV where they fed
people spinach which is a good source of zeaxanthin (the orange
pigment that works) and lutein (the yellow pigment that works). You
can't see the orange and yellow because of the green colour of the
spinach. The Age Related Macular degeneration improved despite the
advanced age of the participants.

They also reported on the Detox Diet which was by way of contrast an
utter failure.

Best wishes, great to hear of your successes.

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 20:41:18 +1000, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>They make an excellent snack in my opinion. You can eat a fair bit without
>causing a rise and have the added benefit of the veggies retaining their
>vitamins because they are not being cooked.. One of my sons thought I was
>weird this afternoon I ate a whole can of asparagus spears - 5 gr carb
>for the whole tin, lol. He thought it was disgusting

G'day G'day Jan,

I'm puzzled by the comments here. Surely tinned asparagus is cooked.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 05:54:51 -0500, "krom"
<thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Also great fiber!
>:-)
>
>KROM

Good point Krom,

The three major factors supporting satiety are water content OF
FOOD, protein and fibre.

Best wishes,
Quentin.


>"Quentin Grady" <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote >
>> Great choices. What ever persuasion one has over the carbohydrate
>> issues these foods are all excellent choices for low calorie, high
>> water content foods that assist satiety.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> --
>> Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
>> New Zealand, >#,#< [
>> / \ /\
>> "... and the blind dog was leading."
>>
>> http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin
>

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

"Quentin Grady" <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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> This post not CC'd by email
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 20:41:18 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
>
> >They make an excellent snack in my opinion. You can eat a fair bit
without
> >causing a rise and have the added benefit of the veggies retaining their
> >vitamins because they are not being cooked.. One of my sons thought I was
> >weird this afternoon I ate a whole can of asparagus spears - 5 gr carb
> >for the whole tin, lol. He thought it was disgusting
>
> G'day G'day Jan,
>
> I'm puzzled by the comments here. Surely tinned asparagus is cooked.

My fault, my thoughts often stay in my head People think I am weird
because of the amounts of raw food I consume and how I relish vegetables as
snacks. Using that same train of though I remembered my kid thought I was
weird eating a can of asparagus (which of course was cooked) Sorry for the
confusion

On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:06:19 +1000, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>
>My fault, my thoughts often stay in my head People think I am weird
>because of the amounts of raw food I consume and how I relish vegetables as
>snacks. Using that same train of though I remembered my kid thought I was
>weird eating a can of asparagus (which of course was cooked) Sorry for the
>confusion

None of think you are weird because of the amounts of raw foods you
consume. We think you're weird for lots of other reasons, too
numerous to list here. You'll have to send 6.00 dollars for postage
for the entire list.

Just wanted to clear that up.

:}

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but is morally treasonable to the American public."
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and I like less than half of you
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"Mâck©®" <shootspammers@deathtospam.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:06:19 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >My fault, my thoughts often stay in my head People think I am weird
> >because of the amounts of raw food I consume and how I relish vegetables
as
> >snacks. Using that same train of though I remembered my kid thought I was
> >weird eating a can of asparagus (which of course was cooked) Sorry for
the
> >confusion
>
> None of think you are weird because of the amounts of raw foods you
> consume. We think you're weird for lots of other reasons, too
> numerous to list here. You'll have to send 6.00 dollars for postage
> for the entire list.
>
> Just wanted to clear that up.

6.00 US? BTW, I lost all my email addies, could you email me on
oz.girl@bigpond.com It's my old dialup number and out of contract in a few
weeks so I am not worried about spam. I will email you back with my new
address.

Quentin Grady <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> This post not CC'd by email
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:33:51 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
> wrote:

>>I've been eating lots of carrot sticks with no problem, but I only
>>really like carrots raw. :-)
>>
>>Cheri

> G'day G'day Cheri,

> Good on ya. Carrot sticks are excellent, unless of course you're
> hoping they'll improve eyesight. <grin>

We Brits deliberately started the false rumour that eating lots of
carrots greatly improved vision during WWII as a way of distracting
the Germans from the fact that how we were actually "seeing" their
planes in conditions of poor visibility was our new secret invention
of radar. Obviously we managed to convince a lot more people than the
Germans :-)

--
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IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

On Fri, 18 May 2007 16:36:58 +1200, Quentin Grady
<quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>This post not CC'd by email
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:33:51 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
>wrote:
>
>>I've been eating lots of carrot sticks with no problem, but I only
>>really like carrots raw. :-)
>>
>>Cheri
>
>G'day G'day Cheri,
>
> Good on ya. Carrot sticks are excellent, unless of course you're
>hoping they'll improve eyesight. <grin>
>
>They don't. Carrots are a good source of beta-carotene. It makes
>them orange. However there is no beta-carotene in the eye. None.
>The orange pigment there is zeaxanthin, a sort of second cousin to
>beta-carotene. Early chemists mistook zeaxanthin for beta-carotene.
>
>Unfortunately carrots don't contain zeaxanthin or the related yellow
>pigment lutein.
>
>There was an interesting experiment reported on TV where they fed
>people spinach which is a good source of zeaxanthin (the orange
>pigment that works) and lutein (the yellow pigment that works). You
>can't see the orange and yellow because of the green colour of the
>spinach. The Age Related Macular degeneration improved despite the
>advanced age of the participants.
>
>They also reported on the Detox Diet which was by way of contrast an
>utter failure.
>
I am glad to hear this info. I have known so many people with macular
degeneration and other eye degeneration. It is my greatest fear. I
could get along without my feet; I could even do fine with a
mastectomy. BUT!!! **I gotta have my eyes!!** I used to eat spinach a
lot when I was younger; but got out of the habit of it when my husband
died. And, like everybody else, I believed the old saying of carrots
are good for the eyes. I still like to eat raw baby carrots. But now I
am going to start eating a lot of spinach like I used to. BTW, do
other dark greens have these factors? I love turnip greens better than
spinach.


--

Jolanna
DM TYPE II
Dx May 31, 2006
Lantus
Metformin
Avandia

Hopefully, we keep them all, but I definitely agree with the eyes. :-)

Cheri


Jolanna wrote in message ...
>I am glad to hear this info. I have known so many people with macular
>degeneration and other eye degeneration. It is my greatest fear. I
>could get along without my feet; I could even do fine with a
>mastectomy. BUT!!! **I gotta have my eyes!!** I used to eat spinach a
>lot when I was younger; but got out of the habit of it when my
husband
>died. And, like everybody else, I believed the old saying of carrots
>are good for the eyes. I still like to eat raw baby carrots. But now
I
>am going to start eating a lot of spinach like I used to. BTW, do
>other dark greens have these factors? I love turnip greens better
than
>spinach.

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message ...
> 6.00 US? BTW, I lost all my email addies, could you email me on
> oz.girl@bigpond.com It's my old dialup number and out of contract in a
> few
> weeks so I am not worried about spam. I will email you back with my new
> address.
>
my addy hasn't changed..... so people who used to have my addy, will you
e-mail me as well....... i recently lost everything on my HD inspite of
having a ghost back up copy to keep things working...... long story, and i
don't want to go there..... but i need to get current e-mail addys for
people..... my list of addy's is about 5 years old from a time far far away

thanks!

"Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message ...
> > 6.00 US? BTW, I lost all my email addies, could you email me on
> > oz.girl@bigpond.com It's my old dialup number and out of contract in a
> > few
> > weeks so I am not worried about spam. I will email you back with my new
> > address.
> >
> my addy hasn't changed..... so people who used to have my addy, will you
> e-mail me as well....... i recently lost everything on my HD inspite of
> having a ghost back up copy to keep things working...... long story, and i
> don't want to go there..... but i need to get current e-mail addys for
> people..... my list of addy's is about 5 years old from a time far far
away

You should have mine and I will send you my list but it is still very small
because of my recent crash.

thanks, Jan
i have lost a current for Joker
JD
and a few other people who haven't posted here for a while
or from chat
they are on my joke list (again unrevised = very old copy) and they are
bouncing

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tiger Lily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:5b71itF2revtfU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message ...
>> > 6.00 US? BTW, I lost all my email addies, could you email me on
>> > oz.girl@bigpond.com It's my old dialup number and out of contract in a
>> > few
>> > weeks so I am not worried about spam. I will email you back with my new
>> > address.
>> >
>> my addy hasn't changed..... so people who used to have my addy, will you
>> e-mail me as well....... i recently lost everything on my HD inspite of
>> having a ghost back up copy to keep things working...... long story, and
>> i
>> don't want to go there..... but i need to get current e-mail addys for
>> people..... my list of addy's is about 5 years old from a time far far
> away
>
> You should have mine and I will send you my list but it is still very
> small
> because of my recent crash.
>

On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:06:19 +1000, Ozgirl wrote:

> People think I am weird
> because of the amounts of raw food I consume and how I relish vegetables as
> snacks. Using that same train of though I remembered my kid thought I was
> weird eating a can of asparagus (which of course was cooked) Sorry for the
> confusion

People think you are weird because of the screwed-up diet the average
person follows. It would be nice to be able to travel back in time and
smack myself upside the head for eating all the garbage I used to eat. Now,
after having been diagnosed as a diabetic, I eat raw carrots and other
vegies in place of potato chips, cookies and all the other junk. That
doesn't mean I don't sneak an occasional doughnut or chip...but for the
most part, I try to eat healthy snacks. And it is amazing how my tastes
have changed. While I used to live on fried foods and grease, now it almost
makes me ill to eat something fried (especially at a restaurant). I must
admit, I also have done the asparagus thing. I especially love this time of
year as it allows me to have my garden and have all the good, raw veggies
that I need. So, hey, you're not weird, just smart enough to eat healthy
snacks instead of garbage.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Thank you!!! I feel the same way...could have written those posts myself.
I snack on raw veggies, and I keep my fruit fresh and sliced in the freezer
in baggies. I NEVER thought "diet" cola would taste good, and now I enjoy
it...who would have thunk it! It's truly amazing how my taste buds have
changed...especailly after I stopped smoking 7 months ago. I still have the
average american snacks, however, not as much or as often, and I feel better
when I stay on my plan. "I" can feel the difference, and that matters to me
today.
Kris


" People think I am weird
> because of the amounts of raw food I consume and how I relish vegetables
as
> snacks. "


"it is amazing how my tastes
have changed. While I used to live on fried foods and grease, now it almost
makes me ill to eat something fried (especially at a restaurant)."

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On Fri, 18 May 2007 06:49:50 -0600, Jolanna
<jolanna@drop.me.fairpoint.net> wrote:

>I am glad to hear this info. I have known so many people with macular
>degeneration and other eye degeneration. It is my greatest fear. I
>could get along without my feet; I could even do fine with a
>mastectomy. BUT!!! **I gotta have my eyes!!** I used to eat spinach a
>lot when I was younger; but got out of the habit of it when my husband
>died. And, like everybody else, I believed the old saying of carrots
>are good for the eyes. I still like to eat raw baby carrots. But now I
>am going to start eating a lot of spinach like I used to. BTW, do
>other dark greens have these factors? I love turnip greens better than
>spinach.

G'day G'day Jolanna,

It feels good to help set the record straight in some small way.
Carrots are nutritious. The beta carotene they contain though simply
doesn't get into the retina of the eye where they could protect the
sensitive tissue from blue and ultraviolet light which does the
damage.

Most green leaf vegetables hide some orange zeaxanthin which protects
the macular of the eye responsible for fine vision. The amounts vary
of course from vegetable to vegetable and even between varieties.
Zeaxanthin is rather scarce compared with the yellow lutein which
protects peripheral vision but not the central fine vision. That is
why I suggest eating orange bell peppers if they are available.

One thing I've noticed is that the green herbs such as parsley, leaf
coriander (cilantro), etc are good sources of zeaxanthin. Maybe this
is because they are less modified by breeding and so still contain
their full complement of pigments.

Turnip greens BTW are tops when it comes to antioxidants and most
other things. There is simply less discussion about them. Researchers
tend to think "spinach" for research because it is a common item.
Spinach though is a collective name for many, many green leaf plants.
Some are rich in zeaxanthin. Some contain almost none.
The sound strategy IMHO is to eat a variety of greens.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin