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Has anyone taken 1200 mg. (two 600 mg. pills each) of Gabapentin three times a day, for a total of 3600 mg. per day.
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    William McHenry Outlaw Guest

    Default Has anyone taken 1200 mg. (two 600 mg. pills each) of Gabapentin three times a day, for a total of 3600 mg. per day.

    I have such severe peripheral diabetic neuropathy; and I have taken so
    many different therapies; and now this, and it does not appear to be
    working. Anyone ? ? ? ? ? ?

    Billy



  2. #2
    Wes Groleau Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken 1200 mg. (two 600 mg. pills each) of Gabapentinthree times a day, for a total of 3600 mg. per day.

    On 02-05-2011 22:12, William McHenry Outlaw wrote:
    > I have such severe peripheral diabetic neuropathy; and I have taken so
    > many different therapies; and now this, and it does not appear to be
    > working. Anyone ? ? ? ? ? ?


    My wife did, but not for neuropathy. And not quite that much.

    Presumably a doctor prescribed such a potent dose.
    Have you discussed the lack of results with him/her?

    Monica's condition was such that she needed a
    pain management specialist. Could that be an
    option for you?

    --
    Wes Groleau

    There ain't no right wing,
    there ain't no left wing.
    There's only you and me and we just disagree.
    (apologies to Jim Krueger)

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    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken 1200 mg. (two 600 mg. pills each) of Gabapentin three times a day, for a total of 3600 mg. per day.


    "William McHenry Outlaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >I have such severe peripheral diabetic neuropathy; and I have taken so
    > many different therapies; and now this, and it does not appear to be
    > working. Anyone ? ? ? ? ? ?
    >
    > Billy


    And it probably never will work. I took that off-label crap and all it did
    was give me side effects and make me want to hurl myself out a window. My
    suggestion to you is get off of it now! Of course they don't tell you this
    but you can't just stop taking it. You have to ramp back off of it or you
    could have a seizure. I can't remember what I had ramped up to when I was
    taking it.

    The only things that helped me were/are getting my BG in range and Evening
    Primrose Oil, 2,000 mg morning and night. Some people find that ALA helps.



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    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken 1200 mg. (two 600 mg. pills each) of Gabapentin three times a day, for a total of 3600 mg. per day.


    "Wes Groleau" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On 02-05-2011 22:12, William McHenry Outlaw wrote:
    >> I have such severe peripheral diabetic neuropathy; and I have taken so
    >> many different therapies; and now this, and it does not appear to be
    >> working. Anyone ? ? ? ? ? ?

    >
    > My wife did, but not for neuropathy. And not quite that much.
    >
    > Presumably a doctor prescribed such a potent dose.
    > Have you discussed the lack of results with him/her?
    >
    > Monica's condition was such that she needed a
    > pain management specialist. Could that be an
    > option for you?


    Not likely. Much better to treat the root of the problem.



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    Harold Groot Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken 1200 mg. (two 600 mg. pills each) of Gabapentin three times a day, for a total of 3600 mg. per day.

    On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:39:57 -0800, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"William McHenry Outlaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. .
    >>I have such severe peripheral diabetic neuropathy; and I have taken so
    >> many different therapies; and now this, and it does not appear to be
    >> working. Anyone ? ? ? ? ? ?
    >> Billy



    >And it probably never will work. I took that off-label crap and all it did
    >was give me side effects and make me want to hurl myself out a window. My
    >suggestion to you is get off of it now! Of course they don't tell you this
    >but you can't just stop taking it. You have to ramp back off of it or you
    >could have a seizure. I can't remember what I had ramped up to when I was
    >taking it.
    >
    >The only things that helped me were/are getting my BG in range and Evening
    >Primrose Oil, 2,000 mg morning and night. Some people find that ALA helps.



    I believe the most common recommendation is to take both Alpha Lipoic
    Acid (ALA) and Evening Primrose Oil (EPO) together, in roughly equal
    amounts. Note that it takes a while for this to become effective even
    when it works. It helps enough people to be worth trying, but there
    are plenty of other people who have not found it effective. But ALA
    is one of the very few things that may actually reverse the damage
    that has been done to the nerves.

    I'll throw in the fact that ALA comes in two mirror isomers, and that
    several people have claimed that taking only the good isomer (R-Lipoic
    Acid) is significantly more effective than just taking a higher dose
    of the mixture (standard ALA). The claim is that the other isomer
    isn't merely inert but actually detrimental - that it actively hinders
    the effect of the good isomer.

    The original poster mentioned taking many therapies, so perhaps he has
    already tried this. But if he hasn't, this has helped quite a few
    people and would certainly be worth trying.

    P.S. - some people use ALA to refer to Alpha Linoleic Acid, so be sure
    which one people are talking about (say, if you do a web search on
    "ALA"). Alpha Lipoic Acid is the one that can help with Peripheral
    Neuropathy. It is also known as Thioctic Acid (particularly in
    Europe).







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    Susan Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken 1200 mg. (two 600 mg. pills each) of Gabapentinthree times a day, for a total of 3600 mg. per day.

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    On 2/5/2011 10:12 PM, William McHenry Outlaw wrote:
    > I have such severe peripheral diabetic neuropathy; and I have taken so
    > many different therapies; and now this, and it does not appear to be
    > working. Anyone ? ? ? ? ? ?
    >


    The very best way to fight and reverse peripheral neuropathy is with
    insulin resensitization. You can do that in two ways together; diet and
    medication or supplements or diet alone, depending on how advanced it is.

    In my case, cutting my carbs very low to tightly control my bg at all
    times completely reversed the pain, but I still had residual numbness in
    my lower legs. That disappeared within 1-3 mos. if time released alpha
    lipoic acid and low carb.

    ALA is a well studied supplement for insulin sensitization and reversal
    of peripheral neuropathies.

    HTH,

    Susan

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    Susan Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken 1200 mg. (two 600 mg. pills each) of Gabapentinthree times a day, for a total of 3600 mg. per day.

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    On 2/6/2011 4:33 AM, Harold Groot wrote:

    > I believe the most common recommendation is to take both Alpha Lipoic
    > Acid (ALA) and Evening Primrose Oil (EPO) together, in roughly equal
    > amounts. Note that it takes a while for this to become effective even
    > when it works.


    Not necessarily. Some folks report big changes immediately. Dana, who
    used to post here, was one. In my case, when I had a recurrence due to
    holiday carb creep some years ago, doubling the dose to 1200mg per day
    in two doses got rid of the PNs within one week (along with cutting
    carbs back down).

    I've never noticed any change or benefits from EPO, though that's not to
    say someone else won't.


    Susan

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    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken 1200 mg. (two 600 mg. pills each) of Gabapentin three times a day, for a total of 3600 mg. per day.


    "Susan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > x-no-archive: yes
    >
    > On 2/6/2011 4:33 AM, Harold Groot wrote:
    >
    >> I believe the most common recommendation is to take both Alpha Lipoic
    >> Acid (ALA) and Evening Primrose Oil (EPO) together, in roughly equal
    >> amounts. Note that it takes a while for this to become effective even
    >> when it works.

    >
    > Not necessarily. Some folks report big changes immediately. Dana, who
    > used to post here, was one. In my case, when I had a recurrence due to
    > holiday carb creep some years ago, doubling the dose to 1200mg per day in
    > two doses got rid of the PNs within one week (along with cutting carbs
    > back down).
    >
    > I've never noticed any change or benefits from EPO, though that's not to
    > say someone else won't.


    I am the opposite. The EPO seemed to help some in a couple of weeks. I
    have not noticed a difference with the ALA at all.



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    Just Elaine Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken-- please try benfotiamine

    Dear Sir,

    I would like to give you some information that has greatly helped me. I
    read this group when I have time and have gleaned much useful
    information.

    I have severe neuropathy in my feet and legs. I was at my wit's end -
    when I came to read about taking benfotiamine in this group. I was on
    the verge of asking my doctor to prescribe something - anything - to
    help me get some relief, but, I wanted to try one last thing before I
    went that route.

    I don't remember who suggested it here - but, it's the best thing that's
    happened to me, concerning the degree relief I now have. I have
    achieved at least 90% relief. Benfotiamine has been a God-send for me.

    Since it is the fat soluble version of vitamin B1, you can order online
    at any vitamin shop. I am now on my third bottle and I started getting
    some relief of the burning, tingling, and excruciating pain from the
    very start of using it.

    Please, please try it.

    http://www.benfotiamine.org/


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    [email protected] | Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken-- please try benfotiamine

    On Feb 6, 4:06*pm, laineyla...@webtv.net (Just Elaine) wrote:
    > Dear Sir,
    >
    > I would like to give you some information that has greatly helped me. *I
    > read this group when I have time and have gleaned much useful
    > information.
    >
    > I have severe neuropathy in my feet and legs. *I was at my wit's end -
    > when I came to read about taking benfotiamine in this group. *I was on
    > the verge of asking my doctor to prescribe something - anything - to
    > help me get some relief, but, I wanted to try one last thing before I
    > went that route.
    >
    > I don't remember who suggested it here - but, it's the best thing that's
    > happened to me, concerning the degree relief I now have. *I have
    > achieved at least 90% relief. *Benfotiamine has been a God-send for me.
    >
    > Since it is the fat soluble version of vitamin B1, you can order online
    > at any vitamin shop. *I am now on my third bottle and I started getting
    > some relief of the burning, tingling, and excruciating pain from the
    > very start of using it.
    >
    > Please, please try it.
    >
    > http://www.benfotiamine.org/*


    I'll second the vote for benfotiamine. A year ago I had
    some tingling in the feet, I added in vigorous exercise and regular
    intake of benfotiamine and it went away. I already was
    on dl-alpha lipoic acid so ........go figure. There is a better
    form of alpha lipoic acid which it the r form/d form
    which is generally seen labeled as r-alpha lipoic acid
    sometimes as a salt form.

    Also with benfotiamine the dose is pretty small in the
    several hundred milligram level and it is gentle to the gut.
    ALA is really harsh and needs to be in a capsule otherwise
    it burns all the way down the esophagus. The salt
    form maybe better but I've not tried it. Plus the research
    I've seen with ALA the dose used is 1200 milligrams as
    I recall. I didn't recheck to see if some researchers used
    lower dose. I still take some ALA at the lower dose
    in a softgel of 300 mg per day and some days twice
    a day. I tried the bulk form without the capsule or softgel
    and I say don't do it unless you got a way to encapsulate
    the chemical. On the other hand benfotiamine
    bulk form is a pleasant light powder though one does
    need steady hands for this form.

    A likely mild T2 DM or late preDM given my
    strip tests and the Doctor's A1c test.............Trig

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    Susan Guest

    Default Re: Has anyone taken-- please try benfotiamine

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    On 2/7/2011 7:55 AM, [email protected] | wrote:

    > Also with benfotiamine the dose is pretty small in the
    > several hundred milligram level and it is gentle to the gut.
    > ALA is really harsh and needs to be in a capsule otherwise
    > it burns all the way down the esophagus. The salt
    > form maybe better but I've not tried it. Plus the research
    > I've seen with ALA the dose used is 1200 milligrams as
    > I recall. I didn't recheck to see if some researchers used
    > lower dose. I still take some ALA at the lower dose
    > in a softgel of 300 mg per day and some days twice
    > a day. I tried the bulk form without the capsule or softgel
    > and I say don't do it unless you got a way to encapsulate
    > the chemical. On the other hand benfotiamine
    > bulk form is a pleasant light powder though one does
    > need steady hands for this form.


    Actually, the most commonly recommended dosage of ALA is 600 mg per day,
    in divided doses. Dr. Bernstein says that one can go up to 1800mg per
    day, divided, to get the benefits of metformin.

    Susan

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