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High blood pressure standards
  1. #1
    Loretta Eisenberg Guest

    Default High blood pressure standards

    I am reading an article by Dr.Ted Mitchell in USA Weekend, He said if
    the systolic number is 140 or higher that is high blood pressure even if
    the distolic number is lower, If the systolic number is lower than 140
    but the distolic number is 90 or over , that is also considered high
    blood pressure Dr, Mitchell is President of Dallas Cooper Clinic

    the example he gave was 145/84 considered high blood pressure

    Just passing this info on

    Loretta

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  2. #2
    MaryL Guest

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    "Loretta Eisenberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >I am reading an article by Dr.Ted Mitchell in USA Weekend, He said if
    > the systolic number is 140 or higher that is high blood pressure even if
    > the distolic number is lower, If the systolic number is lower than 140
    > but the distolic number is 90 or over , that is also considered high
    > blood pressure Dr, Mitchell is President of Dallas Cooper Clinic
    >
    > the example he gave was 145/84 considered high blood pressure
    >
    > Just passing this info on
    >
    > Loretta
    >
    > --
    > I
    >



    I sometimes go to meetings of the diabetes support group at one of our local
    hospitals. We were given the same information as what you cited. In
    addition, we were told that even 140 is too high for a diabetic because we
    already face the possibility of multiple health issues. They said that a
    diabetic should strive to remain under 120 systolic. Of course (as I said
    in another thread), this number will change significantly if the patient has
    been active immediately before being tested. I believe the standard is to
    remain relaxed and quiet for awhile before testing BP.

    MaryL


  3. #3
    Susan Guest

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    Loretta Eisenberg wrote:
    > I am reading an article by Dr.Ted Mitchell in USA Weekend, He said if
    > the systolic number is 140 or higher that is high blood pressure even if
    > the distolic number is lower, If the systolic number is lower than 140
    > but the distolic number is 90 or over , that is also considered high
    > blood pressure Dr, Mitchell is President of Dallas Cooper Clinic
    >
    > the example he gave was 145/84 considered high blood pressure
    >
    > Just passing this info on
    >


    The info I posted didn't discuss whether or not those numbers themselves
    are risky, only that treating them *with drugs* did not improve health
    outcomes.

    With diet and supplemental potassium, my serious HT has given way to bp
    that's usually under 120 over 68.

    Susan

  4. #4
    bgl Guest

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    "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4a6b1cf9$0$23751$bbae4d[email protected] ...
    > Of course (as I said in another thread), this number will change
    > significantly if the patient has been active immediately before being
    > tested. I believe the standard is to remain relaxed and quiet for awhile
    > before testing BP.
    >


    Funny thing, though -- you go to the doctor, sit a while in the waiting
    room, & instead of having your bp checked while you're reasonably relaxed,
    the nurse/assistant/tech/whoever rushes you into "the back" & does the
    vitals check while you're still catching your breath from picking up your
    stuff & hurrying-along after the usually impatient staffer. Sometimes there
    isn't even a regular chair to sit on, just a hop-up-on bar-stool (I may
    start telling that office I'm too old to do that :-) and considering this is
    an ob/gyn I have to wonder how they treat the very-pregnant-patients...).
    And of course they're talking to you & asking questions while they do it,
    expecting you to answer even if you do have a thermometer stuck in your
    mouth & for bp check you're not supposed to talk anyway!

    No wonder my bp is so often so much higher than when the doctor takes it
    later (which some do).
    bj




  5. #5
    MaryL Guest

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    "bgl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected] ...
    > "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:4a6b1cf9$0$23751$[email protected] ...
    >> Of course (as I said in another thread), this number will change
    >> significantly if the patient has been active immediately before being
    >> tested. I believe the standard is to remain relaxed and quiet for awhile
    >> before testing BP.
    >>

    >
    > Funny thing, though -- you go to the doctor, sit a while in the waiting
    > room, & instead of having your bp checked while you're reasonably relaxed,
    > the nurse/assistant/tech/whoever rushes you into "the back" & does the
    > vitals check while you're still catching your breath from picking up your
    > stuff & hurrying-along after the usually impatient staffer. Sometimes
    > there
    > isn't even a regular chair to sit on, just a hop-up-on bar-stool (I may
    > start telling that office I'm too old to do that :-) and considering this
    > is an ob/gyn I have to wonder how they treat the
    > very-pregnant-patients...). And of course they're talking to you & asking
    > questions while they do it, expecting you to answer even if you do have a
    > thermometer stuck in your mouth & for bp check you're not supposed to talk
    > anyway!
    >
    > No wonder my bp is so often so much higher than when the doctor takes it
    > later (which some do).
    > bj
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Yes, I've often thought about that. My BP has been about 112-115/88-90 for
    the last few visits, but I wonder what it would be if I sat for awhile (as
    recommended) before being tested. It is lower at home, but that is on my
    own equipment.

    MaryL


  6. #6
    Susan Guest

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    MaryL wrote:

    >
    > Yes, I've often thought about that. My BP has been about 112-115/88-90
    > for the last few visits, but I wonder what it would be if I sat for
    > awhile (as recommended) before being tested. It is lower at home, but
    > that is on my own equipment.
    >


    If you haven't done so already, bring your home cuff to your doctor's
    office and compare them.

    My bp is very low at home, and was very high, same as my doc's number,
    in the office. Definite case of white coat hypertension, and now I know
    my meter's accuracy.

    Susan

  7. #7
    MaryL Guest

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    "Susan" <s[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > x-no-archive: yes
    >
    > MaryL wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Yes, I've often thought about that. My BP has been about 112-115/88-90
    >> for the last few visits, but I wonder what it would be if I sat for
    >> awhile (as recommended) before being tested. It is lower at home, but
    >> that is on my own equipment.
    >>

    >
    > If you haven't done so already, bring your home cuff to your doctor's
    > office and compare them.
    >
    > My bp is very low at home, and was very high, same as my doc's number, in
    > the office. Definite case of white coat hypertension, and now I know my
    > meter's accuracy.
    >
    > Susan


    That's what I should have done--keep thinking about it, then forget on the
    day of appointments. I have done that with my glucose monitor, and it has
    been remarkably accurate.

    MaryL


  8. #8
    Tiger Lily Guest

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    MaryL wrote:
    >
    > "Loretta Eisenberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> I am reading an article by Dr.Ted Mitchell in USA Weekend, He said if
    >> the systolic number is 140 or higher that is high blood pressure even if
    >> the distolic number is lower, If the systolic number is lower than 140
    >> but the distolic number is 90 or over , that is also considered high
    >> blood pressure Dr, Mitchell is President of Dallas Cooper Clinic
    >>
    >> the example he gave was 145/84 considered high blood pressure
    >>
    >> Just passing this info on
    >>
    >> Loretta
    >>
    >> --
    >> I
    >>

    >
    >
    > I sometimes go to meetings of the diabetes support group at one of our
    > local hospitals. We were given the same information as what you cited.
    > In addition, we were told that even 140 is too high for a diabetic
    > because we already face the possibility of multiple health issues. They
    > said that a diabetic should strive to remain under 120 systolic. Of
    > course (as I said in another thread), this number will change
    > significantly if the patient has been active immediately before being
    > tested. I believe the standard is to remain relaxed and quiet for
    > awhile before testing BP.
    >
    > MaryL
    >


    if my BP is too high when the nurse takes it, i ask her to wait a minute

    i then go thru 'relaxation techniques' and ask the nurse to try again

    every time she asks me 'how do you do that?'
    well...........

    kate

  9. #9
    Tiger Lily Guest

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    MaryL wrote:

    >> No wonder my bp is so often so much higher than when the doctor takes it
    >> later (which some do).
    >> bj


    > Yes, I've often thought about that. My BP has been about 112-115/88-90
    > for the last few visits, but I wonder what it would be if I sat for
    > awhile (as recommended) before being tested. It is lower at home, but
    > that is on my own equipment.
    >
    > MaryL


    a smile.........

    i didn't get away from work 'on time to make it to the lab' one
    day..........
    the lab was a mile away, and i figured if i ran like the dicken's i
    could make it in time......
    they were almost closed when i arrived, and they hurried me thru the
    various tech's
    my BP was 100/60 and the nurse said 'you must be very relaxed'
    she didn't believe i had just freaked and RAN a mile to get there before
    they closed
    LOL

    kate

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    bgl Guest

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    "Tiger Lily" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > i didn't get away from work 'on time to make it to the lab' one
    > day..........
    > the lab was a mile away, and i figured if i ran like the dicken's i could
    > make it in time......
    > they were almost closed when i arrived, and they hurried me thru the
    > various tech's
    > my BP was 100/60 and the nurse said 'you must be very relaxed'
    > she didn't believe i had just freaked and RAN a mile to get there before
    > they closed
    > LOL
    >
    > kate


    I once had my bp taken within, oh, about 1/2 hr of a race start; it was high
    (no surprise, I was jazzed up). Had it taken again a few minutes after
    finishing and it was *low*. Both were done standing up, as I was too
    impatient to sit for the "before" & wanted the same method for the "after"
    (I have the #s around "somwhere").

    Running must open up the pipes or something -- but it can't be "running from
    the chair to the back office hurrying after the impatient nurse" it has to
    be proper running for more than that 30seconds. :-)
    bj



  11. #11
    W. Baker Guest

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    bgl <[email protected]> wrote:
    : "Tiger Lily" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    : news:[email protected]..
    : >
    : > i didn't get away from work 'on time to make it to the lab' one
    : > day..........
    : > the lab was a mile away, and i figured if i ran like the dicken's i could
    : > make it in time......
    : > they were almost closed when i arrived, and they hurried me thru the
    : > various tech's
    : > my BP was 100/60 and the nurse said 'you must be very relaxed'
    : > she didn't believe i had just freaked and RAN a mile to get there before
    : > they closed
    : > LOL
    : >
    : > kate

    : I once had my bp taken within, oh, about 1/2 hr of a race start; it was high
    : (no surprise, I was jazzed up). Had it taken again a few minutes after
    : finishing and it was *low*. Both were done standing up, as I was too
    : impatient to sit for the "before" & wanted the same method for the "after"
    : (I have the #s around "somwhere").

    : Running must open up the pipes or something -- but it can't be "running from
    : the chair to the back office hurrying after the impatient nurse" it has to
    : be proper running for more than that 30seconds. :-)
    : bj

    It depends in what kind of condition you are. Clearly, as a runner, you
    are in good condition so exercise will have less or no effect on BP. If
    you are unexercised, bending and moving around hurredly can well cause the
    BP to rise. This as happened to me. Before my back went flooey I walked
    a great dal al around the city adn movign around the doctor's office
    didn't do anything to my BP. Once I was less able to walk and exercise,
    bending and walking around, even a little, can lead to a higher BP or
    pulse.

    Wendy


  12. #12
    Loretta Eisenberg Guest

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    This must be high blood pressure month. Everywhere I turn, it is eithe
    ron the tv or in the paper. Today, a doctor of tv said that having
    blood pressure of less than 140/90 will not prevent strokes, etc., but
    that having blood pressure of 140/90 and up increases the chances by
    four times those of normal blood pressure.

    Four times greater risk seems like a good enough reason to keep the
    pressure down.

    Loretta

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  13. #13
    bgl Guest

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    "W. Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > bgl <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > : I once had my bp taken within, oh, about 1/2 hr of a race start; it was
    > high
    > : (no surprise, I was jazzed up). Had it taken again a few minutes after
    > : finishing and it was *low*. Both were done standing up, as I was too
    > : impatient to sit for the "before" & wanted the same method for the
    > "after" (I have the #s around "somwhere").
    >
    > : Running must open up the pipes or something -- but it can't be "running
    > from the chair to the back office hurrying after the impatient nurse" it
    > has
    > to be proper running for more than that 30seconds. :-)
    > : bj
    >
    > It depends in what kind of condition you are. Clearly, as a runner, you
    > are in good condition so exercise will have less or no effect on BP. If
    > you are unexercised, bending and moving around hurredly can well cause the
    > BP to rise. This as happened to me. Before my back went flooey I walked
    > a great dal al around the city adn movign around the doctor's office
    > didn't do anything to my BP. Once I was less able to walk and exercise,
    > bending and walking around, even a little, can lead to a higher BP or
    > pulse.
    >


    I certainly get a bp rise from the dash-after-the-nurse exercise!
    Sometimes it's so high then they get Really Concerned.

    This kind of "exercise" bears no resemblance to a run when I've had time to
    warm up & cruise along -- even with a finishing sprint.
    bj




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