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Old 11-04-2007, 11:37 PM
Alan S
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Default History of Diabetes - The Color Blue

A link to this study was posted on the ADA forum today by a
poster named Molly. I found it absolutely fascinating. Guy,
Tim and some others here may find echoes of their own past
here.

http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org.../full/19/3/130
The Color Blue: Musings After 68 Years in the Diabetes Wars


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:13 AM
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Alan S wrote:
> A link to this study was posted on the ADA forum today by a
> poster named Molly. I found it absolutely fascinating. Guy,
> Tim and some others here may find echoes of their own past
> here.
>
> http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org.../full/19/3/130
> The Color Blue: Musings After 68 Years in the Diabetes Wars
>



Excellent reading. Thanks for posting this Alan.

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Old 11-05-2007, 03:26 AM
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:21:31 -0600, Uncle Enrico <uncle@nospam.com>
wrote:

>Alan S wrote:
>> A link to this study was posted on the ADA forum today by a
>> poster named Molly. I found it absolutely fascinating. Guy,
>> Tim and some others here may find echoes of their own past
>> here.
>>
>> http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org.../full/19/3/130
>> The Color Blue: Musings After 68 Years in the Diabetes Wars
>>

>
>
>Excellent reading. Thanks for posting this Alan.


I thank you for this link The answer is a "cure" not treatment.

I feel strongly that more research should be funded. But the funds
will not help unless we educate many more researchers. We waste
so much talent.

I would like to live to see a Polio type solution. That will not
come from drug companies or clinical people

Polio was a scourge I visit people in iron lungs and helped carry
other students in their wheel chair up three flight of stairs to
class. I remember that very well.

We can dream.

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Old 11-05-2007, 07:49 AM
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"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>A link to this study was posted on the ADA forum today by a
> poster named Molly. I found it absolutely fascinating. Guy,
> Tim and some others here may find echoes of their own past
> here.
>
> http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org.../full/19/3/130
> The Color Blue: Musings After 68 Years in the Diabetes Wars


What a poignant read - thank you, Alan )


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Old 11-06-2007, 12:12 AM
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:26:02 +1100, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>A link to this study was posted on the ADA forum today by a
>poster named Molly. I found it absolutely fascinating. Guy,
>Tim and some others here may find echoes of their own past
>here.
>
>http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org.../full/19/3/130
>The Color Blue: Musings After 68 Years in the Diabetes Wars
>
>
>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.



A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
good.

Sleepy
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:12 AM
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<dont@bother.com> wrote in message
news:5ebvi3ps5jt83cjddirj8sksuaf4kjaqgj@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:26:02 +1100, Alan S
> <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>A link to this study was posted on the ADA forum today by a
>>poster named Molly. I found it absolutely fascinating. Guy,
>>Tim and some others here may find echoes of their own past
>>here.
>>
>>http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org.../full/19/3/130
>>The Color Blue: Musings After 68 Years in the Diabetes Wars
>>
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

>
>
> A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
> some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
> that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
> my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
> good.


(((((Sleepy!)))))

Glad to see you back!


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Old 11-06-2007, 12:48 AM
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:59:52 GMT, dont@bother.com wrote:

>
>A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
>some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
>that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
>my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
>good.
>
>Sleepy


Heeeey! Welcome back Sleepy, nice to see you.

Pull up a chair and hang around for a while.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
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Psyllium, Fibre, Muesli and Nuts
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:48 AM
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dont@bother.com

wrote in message <5ebvi3ps5jt83cjddirj8sksuaf4kjaqgj@4ax.com>...
>A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
>some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
>that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
>my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
>good.
>
>Sleepy


Hey great to see you Sleepy. Hope all is well with you. Yeah, I
know...your team won. ;-)

Cheri




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Old 11-06-2007, 03:21 AM
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:08:41 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
><dont@bother.com> wrote in message
>news:5ebvi3ps5jt83cjddirj8sksuaf4kjaqgj@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:26:02 +1100, Alan S
>> <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>A link to this study was posted on the ADA forum today by a
>>>poster named Molly. I found it absolutely fascinating. Guy,
>>>Tim and some others here may find echoes of their own past
>>>here.
>>>
>>>http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org.../full/19/3/130
>>>The Color Blue: Musings After 68 Years in the Diabetes Wars
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

>>
>>
>> A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
>> some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
>> that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
>> my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
>> good.

>
>(((((Sleepy!)))))
>
>Glad to see you back!
>


Thanks Julie!
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:21 AM
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:21:08 +1100, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:59:52 GMT, dont@bother.com wrote:
>
>>
>>A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
>>some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
>>that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
>>my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
>>good.
>>
>>Sleepy

>
>Heeeey! Welcome back Sleepy, nice to see you.
>
>Pull up a chair and hang around for a while.
>
>
>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.


Thanks Alan. Things seem pretty much the same. I can't quite figure
out what the deal is with Andrea2, and Madison, and somebody else.
They turned out to be frauds? Who uncovered the subterfuge?
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:21 AM
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 17:24:15 -0800, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
wrote:

>
>dont@bother.com
>
>wrote in message <5ebvi3ps5jt83cjddirj8sksuaf4kjaqgj@4ax.com>...
>>A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
>>some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
>>that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
>>my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
>>good.
>>
>>Sleepy

>
>Hey great to see you Sleepy. Hope all is well with you. Yeah, I
>know...your team won. ;-)
>
>Cheri
>
>
>

Did you get the email I sent to you a month or so ago about Mr. Moss?
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:21 AM
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:25:01 GMT, Sleepyman <don't@bother.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:21:08 +1100, Alan S
><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:59:52 GMT, dont@bother.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
>>>some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
>>>that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
>>>my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
>>>good.
>>>
>>>Sleepy

>>
>>Heeeey! Welcome back Sleepy, nice to see you.
>>
>>Pull up a chair and hang around for a while.
>>
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

>
>Thanks Alan. Things seem pretty much the same. I can't quite figure
>out what the deal is with Andrea2, and Madison, and somebody else.
>They turned out to be frauds? Who uncovered the subterfuge?



Hi Sleeps...

Where have you been??? We have missed you!

Glad to see you back in the land of the living...

Will, T2
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:21 AM
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Sleepyman wrote in message ...

>>Hey great to see you Sleepy. Hope all is well with you. Yeah, I
>>know...your team won. ;-)
>>
>>Cheri
>>
>>
>>

>Did you get the email I sent to you a month or so ago about Mr. Moss?


Absolutely, did you get ours back? Phil worked on that answer for a
long time. LOL

Cheri


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Old 11-06-2007, 03:21 AM
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:59:18 -0500, "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net>
wrote:


>Hi Sleeps...
>
>Where have you been??? We have missed you!
>
>Glad to see you back in the land of the living...
>
>Will, T2


Hey Will,

How goes the battle? Hope things are well for you.

Considering the Red Sox, the Patriots, and until last week, Boston
College, I have been feeling reasonably satisfied.

Sleepy

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When outrage is commited in it's name.

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Old 11-06-2007, 03:21 AM
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<dont@bother.com> wrote in message
news:5ebvi3ps5jt83cjddirj8sksuaf4kjaqgj@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:26:02 +1100, Alan S
> <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>A link to this study was posted on the ADA forum today by a
>>poster named Molly. I found it absolutely fascinating. Guy,
>>Tim and some others here may find echoes of their own past
>>here.
>>
>>http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org.../full/19/3/130
>>The Color Blue: Musings After 68 Years in the Diabetes Wars
>>
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

>
>
> A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
> some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
> that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
> my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
> good.
>
> Sleepy


Hi Sleepy, I was wonderint who this was! Good to see you.


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Old 11-06-2007, 08:36 AM
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:25:01 GMT, Sleepyman
<don't@bother.com> wrote:

>
>Thanks Alan. Things seem pretty much the same. I can't quite figure
>out what the deal is with Andrea2, and Madison, and somebody else.
>They turned out to be frauds? Who uncovered the subterfuge?


Although the brighter ones among us (not including me)
suspected it for a long time the following were all the same
person: Madison, Andrea, Andrea2, AmberJean and Anon. There
were a couple of others names which escape me. We suspect
the real Anon is a sad, sick, grubby pathetic middle-aged
male but even that is not certain. Despite that apt
description it's not me:-)

Start here, where "Andrea2" confessed all; or at least some
of it: http://tinyurl.com/28g68y

Then skip to a little later and you'll come across a short
attempt from TerryR, but Ozgirl picked that one instantly:
http://tinyurl.com/28nljw

Now he/she is back again as Anon but claiming also to be
here in a couple of other personas. Sadly that is clouding
the air with some suspicion of some posters who are probably
genuine.

Anon needs competent professional help.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Psyllium, Fibre, Muesli and Nuts
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:09 PM
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:32:20 -0800, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
wrote:

>
>Sleepyman wrote in message ...
>
>>>Hey great to see you Sleepy. Hope all is well with you. Yeah, I
>>>know...your team won. ;-)
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>Did you get the email I sent to you a month or so ago about Mr. Moss?

>
>Absolutely, did you get ours back? Phil worked on that answer for a
>long time. LOL
>
>Cheri
>

No Cheri, I never got it it. Can you re-send? If Phil worked on it for
a week, I am sure it is a classic!

Sleepy

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Old 11-06-2007, 10:09 PM
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:51:00 +1100, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>
><dont@bother.com> wrote in message
>news:5ebvi3ps5jt83cjddirj8sksuaf4kjaqgj@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:26:02 +1100, Alan S
>> <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>A link to this study was posted on the ADA forum today by a
>>>poster named Molly. I found it absolutely fascinating. Guy,
>>>Tim and some others here may find echoes of their own past
>>>here.
>>>
>>>http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org.../full/19/3/130
>>>The Color Blue: Musings After 68 Years in the Diabetes Wars
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

>>
>>
>> A good read Alan. I wouldn't be surprised if the good Doctor treated
>> some of my family members at Joslin. There used to be a family joke
>> that they should name a wing after us. I remember the urine test that
>> my father used. It was called Clinitest I think, and IIRC blue meant
>> good.
>>
>> Sleepy

>
>Hi Sleepy, I was wonderint who this was! Good to see you.
>

Thanks Jan, nice to see you too! I have a different version of Agent
now, and they changed quite a few things. Being the type who tries to
"figure it out" as opposed to reading a help file, I am amazed I am
even this far along.

Sleepy

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Old 11-06-2007, 10:09 PM
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Sleepyman wrote in message ...

>No Cheri, I never got it it. Can you re-send? If Phil worked on it

for
>a week, I am sure it is a classic!
>
>Sleepy



Sure, when he gets home tonight, I'll have him rewrite it, and I'll
re-send it. :-)

Cheri



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Old 11-06-2007, 11:56 PM
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:43:59 +1100, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:25:01 GMT, Sleepyman
><don't@bother.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Thanks Alan. Things seem pretty much the same. I can't quite figure
>>out what the deal is with Andrea2, and Madison, and somebody else.
>>They turned out to be frauds? Who uncovered the subterfuge?

>
>Although the brighter ones among us (not including me)
>suspected it for a long time the following were all the same
>person: Madison, Andrea, Andrea2, AmberJean and Anon. There
>were a couple of others names which escape me. We suspect
>the real Anon is a sad, sick, grubby pathetic middle-aged
>male but even that is not certain. Despite that apt
>description it's not me:-)
>
>Start here, where "Andrea2" confessed all; or at least some
>of it: http://tinyurl.com/28g68y
>
>Then skip to a little later and you'll come across a short
>attempt from TerryR, but Ozgirl picked that one instantly:
>http://tinyurl.com/28nljw
>
>Now he/she is back again as Anon but claiming also to be
>here in a couple of other personas. Sadly that is clouding
>the air with some suspicion of some posters who are probably
>genuine.
>
>Anon needs competent professional help.
>
>
>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.


Lot's of sick puppies out there.

Sleepy

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When outrage is commited in it's name.

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