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Old 04-25-2008, 05:54 AM
Grandpa Chuck
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My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw to
check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!

He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast and
to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my evening
snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
blueberries and a cup of coffee.

I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then if
it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack. In
the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
get up before 9:00 a.m.

In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things are
haywire as they are now. I don't want to let these high numbers to go
on very long since I have ho apparent adverse side effects from my
diabetes and don't want any. If the doctor feels I need to go on
insulin I am more than willing to do so.

Wish me luck. I need it.
--
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:54 AM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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convicted neighbor Chuck wrote:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

> My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
> extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
> Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw to
> check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
> and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
> 8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
> happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
> in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
> to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
> is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
> of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!
>
> He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
> time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast and
> to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my evening
> snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
> my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
> blueberries and a cup of coffee.
>
> I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then if
> it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack. In
> the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
> numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
> get up before 9:00 a.m.
>
> In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
> order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things are
> haywire as they are now. I don't want to let these high numbers to go
> on very long since I have ho apparent adverse side effects from my
> diabetes and don't want any. If the doctor feels I need to go on
> insulin I am more than willing to do so.
>
> Wish me luck. I need it.


No such thing as luck (Proverbs 16:33).

It remains much smarter to simply eat less, down to the right amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

A simple parable given in hopes of promoting understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:10 PM
guardian Snow
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On Apr 25, 3:40 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCrdiology.com


http://groups.google.com/group/i-hat...ng-mdphds-spam

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into
the world.


CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA 30126
(404) 699-2780

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results.
Albert Einstein

Notice that Chung doesn’t address a single issue he’s been called up
on. Change the titles on threads he post, he’s a control freak and
hates it.

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempting to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University. He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition. Your calls (Mr. Chung) for
people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you
to stop this immediately.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung. If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession. It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.


Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.


Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon. He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain. It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chung’s web site states:

“after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).”



In other words, Mr. Chung is spamming us on usenet to create traffic
at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a
ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name. There is very little
content on the site and nothing of any medical value.

So, don’t visit the site. He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams. They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.


Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?


No. The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.


> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine. The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.


That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.

This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.

Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.

"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.
If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then stop.
His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/
her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd,
nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done
anonymously.
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/c...729866,00.html

From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:

What is unprofessional conduct?

According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes
"any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of
acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but
not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or
diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as
determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."

In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not
limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping,
not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in
excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment
(mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope
of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of
one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and
Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and
360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct
for which a licensee may be disciplined.

File a Complaint
Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/00/a...080031,00.html

About…

CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA 30126
(404) 699-2780
Physician Profile
040347 Active 08/03/1995 07/31/2009 Cardiovascular Disease/
Cardiology NONE



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Old 04-25-2008, 02:10 PM
guardian Snow
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http://groups.google.com/group/i-hat...ng-mdphds-spam

I've updated the page.

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into
the world.


CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA 30126
(404) 699-2780

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results.
Albert Einstein

Notice that Chung doesn’t address a single issue he’s been called up
on. Change the titles on threads he post, he’s a control freak and
hates it.

Make sure and complain about Mr. Chungs spams to Google, he is only
doing it to drive up traffic on his web site that he is attempting to
sell for half a million dollars to Emory University. He is spamming
us to drive up traffic numbers at his web site and will not stop until
we all complain about his tactics!

Anorexia is a serious medical condition. Your calls (Mr. Chung) for
people to "go hungry" and to "be skinny" are criminal and I advise you
to stop this immediately.

www.anad.org/

and

www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

If you or somebody you knows suffers from this condition, seek medical
attention and DO NOT LISTEN to Andrew B. Chung. If he persist in this
continued action, he won't be able to afford an Internet connection to
log on and spam us with the ridiculous statements that are being
delivered by somebody that claims to be in the Medical profession. It
is irresponsible to dispense medical advice without even knowing the
condition of the people you are delivering the message to.

See to it his license to practice medicine is revoked in his state.
Don’t be fooled by Chung! He admits to not keeping his state
qualifications and while he likes to post a link to “Emory Cardiology”
in his post, the site that states it is a “unofficial web site as a
tribute” and in no way is an endorsement of him or his standing in the
medical community.


Dr. Yamantaka Says,
He is already under investigation by the State of Georgia for reasons
of dishonesty, mental illness and inability to practice up to minimum
community standards.


Mike Mordant says:
Other authorities may take an interest in his business practices
soon. He'll owe the IRS somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000
and
$280,000 for his sale of the emorycardiology.com domain. It may get
treated as ordinary income, not a capital gain since he "remains
lawful steward."

To that Mr. Chung’s web site states:

“after receiving an offer from Emory University for less than its fair
market value, I have been moved to put this domain on the market so
that others may have the opportunity to purchase this high-profile
cardiology domain at its current market value. However, this
opportunity is for the domain only and not the web content. If
interested, please leave a message at 404.699.2780 (serious inquiries
with offers of more than US$550,000.00 only).”



In other words, Mr. Chung is spamming us on usenet to create traffic
at his domain so that he can blackmail Emory University into paying a
ridiculous sum of money just for the domain name. There is very little
content on the site and nothing of any medical value.

So, don’t visit the site. He’s just trying to drive up traffic
numbers to justify the cost and that is why he is putting dozens of
stupid spams. They have nothing to do with the Christian faith and
everything to do with his desire to derive profits.


Mr. Chung says of his own qualifications,
> Didn't you take the required exam for recertification last
> year ?


No. The board-certification in internal medicine was required for the
fellowship training in cardiology.


> Cardiology is a subspecialty of internal medicine. The cardiologist
> who treated me for atypical chest pain is board certified in both
> internal and cardiovascular medicine.


That is his/her choice as it is mine to not recertify in internal
medicine.

Dr. Yamantaka also stated:

Chung, you have shown that you are unable or unwilling to truthfully
answer the reasonable and straight forward questions that I have asked
you to address. Any practicing physician who repeatedly makes the
boasts and claims that you do on these newsgroups would be able to
answer these questions honestly.

This proves that you are lying about your medical practice and your
claims, both by omission and commission. You are continuing to be
pathologically untruthful in how you represent yourself and your
clinical experience. This is dishonest and further evidence of your
mental illness and personality disorder.

Chung, you are not an endocrinologist. You are not a Board Certified
Internist. I am.

"Black fat" is not a term that is used in medicine. . You claim to
offer measurement of VAT. How is it measured? What units are used? How
does one know when it is lost. Please site evidence-based, peer
reviewed sources that state that diabetes is curable upon loosing
VAT.
If you are unable or unwilling to give verifiable evidence to support
your absurd claims, then stop.
His license is already under investigation. Anyone wishing to add his/
her complaints about Chung's unprofessional behavior and absurd,
nonstandard medical advice can also contact the Board. It can be done
anonymously.
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/02/c...729866,00.html

From the website of the Georgia Medical Board:

What is unprofessional conduct?

According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct includes
"any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal standards of
acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also include, but
not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs, treatment or
diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the patient as
determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical care."

In general, examples of unprofessional conduct include, but are not
limited to, physical abuse of a patient, inadequate record keeping,
not recognizing or acting upon common symptoms, prescribing drugs in
excessive amounts or without legitimate reason, personal impairment
(mental or physical) that hinders safely practicing within the scope
of one's license or certificate, performing duties beyond the scope of
one's license or certificate and dishonesty. The Investigations and
Discipline rules of the Georgia Medical Board, (Rule 360-3.02 and
360-3-.04), also provide additional examples of unprofessional conduct
for which a licensee may be disciplined.

File a Complaint
Composite State Board of Medical Examiners
Enforcement Unit
2 Peachtree Street, N.W., 36th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
PH: (404) 657-6487
FX: (404) 656-9723
http://medicalboard.georgia.gov/00/a...080031,00.html

About…

CHUNG, ANDREW BEN-HUA
5701 MABLETON PARKWAY 2 B |
MABLETON, GA 30126
(404) 699-2780
Physician Profile
040347 Active 08/03/1995 07/31/2009 Cardiovascular Disease/
Cardiology NONE
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:10 PM
Julie Bove
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"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
news:hko214lba7gk2vdk8oqgkm411bba93mu44@4ax.com...
> My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
> extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
> Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw to
> check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
> and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
> 8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
> happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
> in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
> to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
> is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
> of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!
>
> He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
> time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast and
> to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my evening
> snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
> my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
> blueberries and a cup of coffee.
>
> I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then if
> it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack. In
> the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
> numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
> get up before 9:00 a.m.
>
> In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
> order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things are
> haywire as they are now. I don't want to let these high numbers to go
> on very long since I have ho apparent adverse side effects from my
> diabetes and don't want any. If the doctor feels I need to go on
> insulin I am more than willing to do so.
>
> Wish me luck. I need it.


Jeepers! I just had my highest number ever but it wasn't as high as yours.
If you do have to go on insulin, I hope you have an easier time of it than
I've been having. Oddly, my numbers have gone higher since I started it.
Don't know what's up with that. *sigh* I've also had some lower numbers
and one hypo. Too much variation to be able to get the dose right.


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Old 04-25-2008, 02:10 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:10 PM
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:02:59 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
>order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things are
>haywire as they are now. I don't want to let these high numbers to go
>on very long since I have ho apparent adverse side effects from my
>diabetes and don't want any. If the doctor feels I need to go on
>insulin I am more than willing to do so.
>
>Wish me luck. I need it.


LUCK, Chuck! Sorry to hear that the numbers have been heading North. I
trust you're keeping a diet/exercise/bg log?

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:11 PM
Nick Cramer
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Grandpa Chuck <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
> [ . . . ]
> Wish me luck. I need it.


Hey, Gramps! I sure wish you luck in determining the cause of you body's
discontent.

Take care.

--
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:11 PM
Alan S
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:02:59 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>Wish me luck. I need it.


I'll do it - but you don't need luck. You just need to
review the information you've received here. Yiu were here
before I arrived IIRC.

How could you still be eating Wheatchex after all these
years, Chuck?

Go back to basics mate. Start with Jennifer's advice and
google up some of Old Al's posts if you decide insulin may
be necessary.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest:Valderee, Valderah. Or, I love To Go A-wandering...
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:11 PM
Quentin Grady
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:02:59 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
>extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
>Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw to
>check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
>and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
>8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
>happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
>in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
>to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
>is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
>of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!


G'day G'day Chuck,

I'm trying to make sense of what I'm reading however it seems that
something is being lost or gained in the translation. Supper I gather
is what we would refer to as tea, a main meal usually about 6 to 7 pm.
I've never heard of anyone having Wheatchex, a highly processes wheat
product at this time. It sounds like the sort of thing
non-T2-diabetics would eat for breakfast. Given the realization
that you have been experiencing blood sugar level problem it would
appear contraindicated. Another puzzling aspect is the four hour
delay before testing. People often test at certain times because they
hope to gain certain information. Or it could be that the opportunity
to test earlier didn't exist. I'm wondering what was true in your
case.

>He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
>time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast and
>to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my evening
>snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
>my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
>blueberries and a cup of coffee.
>
>I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then if
>it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack. In
>the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
>numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
>get up before 9:00 a.m.
>
>In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
>order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things are
>haywire as they are now.


Thank you for that. You seem to keep some odd hours by other people's
standards. It all helps to know these things in order to understand
what is going on.

>I don't want to let these high numbers to go
>on very long since I have ho apparent adverse side effects from my
>diabetes and don't want any. If the doctor feels I need to go on
>insulin I am more than willing to do so.
>
>Wish me luck. I need it.


Luck is part of it. Making some changes in what you eat and when
could also be part of it.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:11 PM
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On Apr 25, 6:50*am, Quentin Grady <quen...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> G'day G'day Chuck,
>
> * I'm trying to make sense of what I'm reading however it seems that
> something is being lost or gained in the translation. *Supper I gather
> is what we would refer to as tea, a main meal usually about 6 to 7 pm.
> I've never heard of anyone having Wheatchex, a highly processes wheat
> product at this time. *It sounds like the sort of thing
> non-T2-diabetics would eat for breakfast. * *Given the realization
> that you have been experiencing blood sugar level problem it would
> appear contraindicated. * *


Perhaps it's a cultural thing... but believe it or not, a lot of
people in the US eat boxed cereal for dinner/supper/tea/the main
evening meal. It's easy, especially for single folk who don't wish to
cook, and it's marketed as healthy. In fact, some advertisers
encourage a diet consisting of a bowl of cereal at two out of three
meals a day to lose weight.

I think most cereals are overprocessed, chemical-laden, sugar-loaded
crap. When I have a craving for cereal, I'll eat some organic steel
cut oats with a couple tablespoons of ground flax seed. It wouldn't be
suitable for every T2 (especially with a Dawn effect), but fortunately
it works for my BGs.

Cindy
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:55 PM
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: "Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
: news:hko214lba7gk2vdk8oqgkm411bba93mu44@4ax.com...
: > My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
: > extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
: > Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw to
: > check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
: > and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
: > 8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
: > happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
: > in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
: > to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
: > is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
: > of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!
: >
: > He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
: > time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast and
: > to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my evening
: > snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
: > my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
: > blueberries and a cup of coffee.
: >
: > I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then if
: > it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack. In
: > the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
: > numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
: > get up before 9:00 a.m.

: > Wish me luck. I need it.

Chuck,

I wish you luck. In the past I have been astonded as how well ou wee
controlled on, what fo rme, would e a high carb and high BG diet. Are you
still following htat same eating patern? If so, or in any event, do you
think you might try a period of jennifer's teat,tst, test advice to see if
you can descern a pattern or find foods that you formerly could eat that
no longer work for you>

It can be a pain in the neck to do all that testing, but it shuld be well
worth your while adn u may find that with some adjustments to your diet,
you will, once again, have decent numbers. Our bodies do change over
time, so maybe yours has.

Wendy-wishing you well
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:13 PM
John
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On Apr 25, 1:02*am, Grandpa Chuck <GrandpaCh...@B4me.org> wrote:
> My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
> extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
> Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw to
> check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
> and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
> 8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
> happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
> in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
> to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
> is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
> of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!
>
> He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
> time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast and
> to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my evening
> snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
> my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
> blueberries and a cup of coffee.
>
> I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then if
> it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack. In
> the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
> numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
> get up before 9:00 a.m.
>
> In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
> order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things are
> haywire as they are now. I don't want to let these high numbers to go
> on very long since I have ho apparent adverse side effects from my
> diabetes and don't want any. If the doctor feels I need to go on
> insulin I am more than willing to do so.
>
> Wish me luck. I need it.
> --
> Grandpa Chuck
> -ô¿ô-
> * ~
>
> The following information gathered fromhttp://icasualties.org/oif/
>
> I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for those who have given the ultimate price.
>
> On April 17, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4037.
> United Kingdom = 176
> Other = 133


Good luck Chuck. I hope you get everything straightened out.

John C.
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:13 PM
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Chuck, I'm sorry to hear that you're struggling right now, but maybe
it's time to be your own advocate and take *some* of the advice the
group has given you many times over the years, instead of relying on
the blind faith you've placed in your doctor. His agreement with your
diet obviously isn't working anymore, if it ever did. Just a thought.
Take care, and I wish you and Laurie well.

Cheri

Grandpa Chuck wrote in message ...
>My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
>extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
>Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw

to
>check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
>and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
>8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
>happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
>in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
>to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
>is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
>of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!
>
>He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
>time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast

and
>to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my

evening
>snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
>my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
>blueberries and a cup of coffee.
>
>I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then

if
>it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack.

In
>the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
>numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
>get up before 9:00 a.m.
>
>In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
>order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things are
>haywire as they are now. I don't want to let these high numbers to go
>on very long since I have ho apparent adverse side effects from my
>diabetes and don't want any. If the doctor feels I need to go on
>insulin I am more than willing to do so.
>
>Wish me luck. I need it.
>--
>Grandpa Chuck
>-ô¿ô-
> ~
>
>The following information gathered from
>http://icasualties.org/oif/
>
>I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for

those who have given the ultimate price.
>
>On April 17, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4037.
>United Kingdom = 176
>Other = 133



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Old 04-25-2008, 08:52 PM
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Grandpa Chuck wrote:
> happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
> in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
> to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
> is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
> of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!


OUCH ! About the 200s as well as the 419.

> Wish me luck. I need it.


Definitely praying you get better on this!

--
Wes Groleau

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1. Don't attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.

2. Don't attribute to stupidity that which
can be adequately explained by ignorance.

3. Don't attribute to ignorance that which
can be adequately explained by misunderstanding.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:23 PM
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:37:53 +1000, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:02:59 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
><GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
>
>>Wish me luck. I need it.

>
>I'll do it - but you don't need luck. You just need to
>review the information you've received here. Yiu were here
>before I arrived IIRC.
>
>How could you still be eating Wheatchex after all these
>years, Chuck?


My doctor has recommended unsweetened cereal for my evening meals. I
know I have been eating too much in the bowl. I need to work on eating
no more than what is listed as one serving on the side of the box. If
I find I don't like it without any sweetener then I need to use Equal
and not even small quantities of sugar. ;-(

>
>Go back to basics mate. Start with Jennifer's advice and
>google up some of Old Al's posts if you decide insulin may
>be necessary.
>
>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.


This mornings BG was 131 which I am very happy with. Had a small bowl
of oatmeal for breakfast. I can't wear my lower partial denture right
now due to a sore area. My before lunch BG was 225 only three hours
after breakfast. My doctor had me change when I take my second
Metformin around 9 p.m. I will wait until bedtime to check my blood
again.
--
Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

The following information gathered from
http://icasualties.org/oif/

I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for those who have given the ultimate price.

On April 17, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4037.
United Kingdom = 176
Other = 133
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:23 PM
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I am wondering if my sore gums are caused by some hidden infection
that might be causing the high numbers.

On 25 Apr 2008 08:39:57 GMT, Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net>
wrote:

>Grandpa Chuck <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
>> [ . . . ]
>> Wish me luck. I need it.

>
>Hey, Gramps! I sure wish you luck in determining the cause of you body's
>discontent.
>
>Take care.

--
Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

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http://icasualties.org/oif/

I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for those who have given the ultimate price.

On April 17, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4037.
United Kingdom = 176
Other = 133
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:50:27 +1200, Quentin Grady
<quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:02:59 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
><GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
>
>>My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
>>extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
>>Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw to
>>check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
>>and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
>>8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
>>happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
>>in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
>>to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
>>is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
>>of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!

>
>G'day G'day Chuck,
>
> I'm trying to make sense of what I'm reading however it seems that
>something is being lost or gained in the translation. Supper I gather
>is what we would refer to as tea, a main meal usually about 6 to 7 pm.


Our main meal is usually around noon or one p.m. since my wife goes to
work at 3:30. Hence, I eat a light meal at around 5:30 p.m. I have
found through experience that I cannot tolerate cold cereal at all for
breakfast. With the sore gums I can't eat my usual whole wheat toast
with peanut butter for breakfast, so Laurie is fixing hot cereal for
breakfast. I seem to do well on one slice of that.

>I've never heard of anyone having Wheatchex, a highly processes wheat
>product at this time. It sounds like the sort of thing
>non-T2-diabetics would eat for breakfast. Given the realization
>that you have been experiencing blood sugar level problem it would
>appear contraindicated. Another puzzling aspect is the four hour
>delay before testing.


That delay is so I can test before the next meal or snack.

> People often test at certain times because they
>hope to gain certain information. Or it could be that the opportunity
>to test earlier didn't exist. I'm wondering what was true in your
>case.


The doctor is wanting me to test at various times of the day and
evening for at least two weeks in order to be able to see how my
numbers run throughout the day.

>
>>He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
>>time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast and
>>to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my evening
>>snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
>>my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
>>blueberries and a cup of coffee.
>>
>>I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then if
>>it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack. In
>>the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
>>numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
>>get up before 9:00 a.m.
>>
>>In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
>>order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things are
>>haywire as they are now.

>
>Thank you for that. You seem to keep some odd hours by other people's
>standards. It all helps to know these things in order to understand
>what is going on.


Since my wife works the evening shift she does not get home until
nearly 1 a.m. so I stay up and wait for her to get home. We do not
normally get up until nine or nine thirty in the morning.

>
>>I don't want to let these high numbers to go
>>on very long since I have ho apparent adverse side effects from my
>>diabetes and don't want any. If the doctor feels I need to go on
>>insulin I am more than willing to do so.
>>
>>Wish me luck. I need it.

>
>Luck is part of it. Making some changes in what you eat and when
>could also be part of it.
>
>Best wishes,


I told my doctor about me overeating Twizzlers. While he thought it
was kind of funny he also said to move that to a place where they
aren't easy to get at and to limit myself to three in the evenings. So
far I haven't had any problem doing that since my mouth is sore right
now.
--
Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

The following information gathered from
http://icasualties.org/oif/

I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for those who have given the ultimate price.

On April 17, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4037.
United Kingdom = 176
Other = 133
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:05:33 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker"
<wbaker@panix.com> wrote:

>
>: "Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
>: news:hko214lba7gk2vdk8oqgkm411bba93mu44@4ax.com...
>: > My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
>: > extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
>: > Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw to
>: > check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
>: > and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
>: > 8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
>: > happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
>: > in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
>: > to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
>: > is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
>: > of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!
>: >
>: > He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
>: > time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast and
>: > to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my evening
>: > snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
>: > my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
>: > blueberries and a cup of coffee.
>: >
>: > I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then if
>: > it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack. In
>: > the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
>: > numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
>: > get up before 9:00 a.m.
>
>: > Wish me luck. I need it.
>
>Chuck,
>
>I wish you luck. In the past I have been astonded as how well ou wee
>controlled on, what fo rme, would e a high carb and high BG diet. Are you
>still following htat same eating patern? If so, or in any event, do you
>think you might try a period of jennifer's teat,tst, test advice to see if
>you can descern a pattern or find foods that you formerly could eat that
>no longer work for you>


Tonight Laurie left cut up turnips, carrots and an apple for me to
snack on. Not sure how that is going to work with my sore gums, but
I'll be happy to try them.

>
>It can be a pain in the neck to do all that testing, but it shuld be well
>worth your while adn u may find that with some adjustments to your diet,
>you will, once again, have decent numbers. Our bodies do change over
>time, so maybe yours has.
>
>Wendy-wishing you well


Thanks Wendy.
--
Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

The following information gathered from
http://icasualties.org/oif/

I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for those who have given the ultimate price.

On April 17, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4037.
United Kingdom = 176
Other = 133
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:25:26 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
wrote:

>Chuck, I'm sorry to hear that you're struggling right now, but maybe
>it's time to be your own advocate and take *some* of the advice the
>group has given you many times over the years, instead of relying on
>the blind faith you've placed in your doctor. His agreement with your
>diet obviously isn't working anymore, if it ever did. Just a thought.
>Take care, and I wish you and Laurie well.


The doctor and I have not always agreed on how I should handle my
disease. When my A1c was running right around 6.0 I was testing four
to six times a day and he told me testing once a day should be enough.
I asked him then, "How do you think I got my numbers down this low?"

As far as the cereal is concerned, I mentioned to him that I was
eating it for my evening meals once in awhile. He said he thought it
sounded like a good idea so long as I watched portion size. Of course
that is where I fell down.

>
>Cheri
>
>Grandpa Chuck wrote in message ...
>>My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1 and I thought that was
>>extraordinarily high since it had always been between 6.1 and 5.9.
>>Monday my doctor wanted to see me again and have another blood draw

>to
>>check my A1c. I told him that I have been running high on my BG tests
>>and did not expect a good result. Was I ever right. This time it was
>>8.1. He wants me to check two or three times a day to see what is
>>happening for a couple of weeks. My morning or FBG readings have been
>>in the low 130s since a saw him. I am trying to pay closer attention
>>to what I eat but my other tests have been between 220 and 285. That
>>is, until tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
>>of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping 419!!
>>
>>He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at supper
>>time since that was normally less than eight hours after breakfast

>and
>>to start taking the second one at nine o'clock, just before my

>evening
>>snack. That was when I got the 419. I took my Metformin and then had
>>my evening snack consisting of a small carton of yogurt with
>>blueberries and a cup of coffee.
>>
>>I will check my BG again at bedtime which will be at 1:00 a.m. Then

>if
>>it has dropped significantly I will eat a very light bedtime snack.

>In
>>the past if I have not had that bedtime snack I have had high morning
>>numbers. That may or may not be due to a liver dump since we do not
>>get up before 9:00 a.m.
>>
>>In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
>>order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things are
>>haywire as they are now. I don't want to let these high numbers to go
>>on very long since I have ho apparent adverse side effects from my
>>diabetes and don't want any. If the doctor feels I need to go on
>>insulin I am more than willing to do so.
>>
>>Wish me luck. I need it.
>>--
>>Grandpa Chuck
>>-ô¿ô-
>> ~

--
Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

The following information gathered from
http://icasualties.org/oif/

I forward these statistics with the greatest degree of respect for those who have given the ultimate price.

On April 17, 2008 the total of Americans killed in Iraq was 4037.
United Kingdom = 176
Other = 133
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:16:58 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>I am wondering if my sore gums are caused by some hidden infection
>that might be causing the high numbers.


A definite possibility - but I think it is also your menu.
However, if in any doubt, see your periodontist.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:37:35 -0700 (PDT), ankalime
<ankalime@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I think most cereals are overprocessed, chemical-laden, sugar-loaded
>crap.


Succinct and accurate, presuming "cereals" means those
processed and packaged for supermarkets.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:15:07 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:37:53 +1000, Alan S
><loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:02:59 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
>><GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Wish me luck. I need it.

>>
>>I'll do it - but you don't need luck. You just need to
>>review the information you've received here. Yiu were here
>>before I arrived IIRC.
>>
>>How could you still be eating Wheatchex after all these
>>years, Chuck?

>
>My doctor has recommended unsweetened cereal for my evening meals. I
>know I have been eating too much in the bowl. I need to work on eating
>no more than what is listed as one serving on the side of the box. If
>I find I don't like it without any sweetener then I need to use Equal
>and not even small quantities of sugar. ;-(
>
>>
>>Go back to basics mate. Start with Jennifer's advice and
>>google up some of Old Al's posts if you decide insulin may
>>be necessary.
>>
>>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>>d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
>>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

>
>This mornings BG was 131 which I am very happy with. Had a small bowl
>of oatmeal for breakfast. I can't wear my lower partial denture right
>now due to a sore area. My before lunch BG was 225 only three hours
>after breakfast. My doctor had me change when I take my second
>Metformin around 9 p.m. I will wait until bedtime to check my blood
>again.


Chuck, we've been here a while. So I hope you will
understand that I say this as a caring friend, not as a jab.

Re-read your posts in this thread as though they were
written by someone else, a new diabetic who appeared on asd
with the following comments:

"My last A1c only a few months back was 7.1"

"This time it was 8.1."

"My morning or FBG readings have been in the low 130s since
a saw him.

"This mornings BG was 131 which I am very happy with. Had a
small bowl of oatmeal for breakfast."

"I am trying to pay closer attention to what I eat but my
other tests have been between 220 and 285. That is, until
tonight when I tested four hours after I ate a light supper
of a small bowl of Wheatchex. This time it was a whopping
419!!

He did tell me when he saw me to stop taking my Metformin at
supper time since that was normally less than eight hours
after breakfast and to start taking the second one at nine
o'clock, just before my evening snack. That was when I got
the 419. I took my Metformin and then had my evening snack
consisting of a small carton of yogurt with blueberries and
a cup of coffee."

Now, what advice would you give that newby? Apart from
considering insulin?

Here is my advice to that newby. It may look familiar to
you:-)

From
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...ew-adjust.html

Start with whatever you eat now.

Eat, then test after eating at your spike time (see
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...-two-hour.html)
and if BG’s are too high then review what you ate and change
the menu next time. Then do that again, and again, and again
until what you eat doesn’t spike you. You will get some
surprises, particularly at breakfast time. The so-called
"heart-healthy" Breakfasts are NOT for most type 2's. Try
something from here instead:
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...reakfasts.html

Similarly, you will find variations through the day - the
same thing will have different effects at breakfast, lunch,
dinner and supper. But I can't say how they will affect
others - only how it affected me - which is why we all need
to test ourselves.

As you gradually improve your blood glucose levels, review
the resulting way of eating to ensure adequate nutrition,
fibre etc are included and adjust accordingly.

Then test again.

Test, review, adjust, always towards better and better
health.

And finally – add at least 30 minutes of exercise to your
day – but that’s another post.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:24 PM
Billie
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Default Re: Huge jump in my A1c

Chuck, I know what you mean. I have a hard time writing in my blog about
the *bad* times, not because I don't want anyone to know, but because I do
not want to come across sounding too negative, griping, complaining, etc.
I'm *supposed* to be *telling it all* on my blog as it is a daily report,
but it just goes against my nature. I even wrote early on that I thought
that was going to be one of the hardest things for me to do, and I found out
quickly that it really was. To me, when I'm in the hospital, that is okay,
but at home, it just sounds like a whiny baby to tell of a day of less than
optimal, and anyone reading it *knows* an MGer is going to have bad times
all within the same day. I've got to start disciplining myself more to
include those times too, to provide a truer picture for other MGers, and
non-MGers as well, which is my purpose to begin with.

Thanks for making that statement from which I can make a renewed commitment
to my purpose to fellow Myasthenia Gravis - aaaawww, do I say "sufferers"?
I DO NOT like to say it that way, though that is exactly what it is. I have
promised my readers the bad as well as the good, and now that I am having
some good, it is just hard to write about the bad. Hey! That sounds like
progress!

And, as for your problems, I'm with you for whatever is best for you,
whatever may befall, and if you do join the insulin-ers, I bet you'll do
just fine math-wise.

Hang in there young man!
Ragdoll Billie ....... come on over and read about my ups and downs, too,
from a 6.0 to an 8.0 exactly on both counts. Sounds like we are riding in
the same boat, or crossing the same waves!
http://andlifegoesononedayonestepatatime.blogspot.com/


"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
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> In the past I shared with the group when I was doing very well, so in
> order to be honest I feel I need to share with you when things ar