Insulin side effects

[Lynn]

Does anyone else get a mild euphoric sensation when their insulin kicks in?

Yesterday was my first day on NPH, btw. Fbg was 78 this morning (unusual,
but not hypo for me).

Lynn
GD, 36wks

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Lynn wrote:
> Does anyone else get a mild euphoric sensation when their insulin kicks in?
>
> Yesterday was my first day on NPH, btw. Fbg was 78 this morning (unusual,
> but not hypo for me).

If your blood sugar had been running higher for an extended period, the
drop to 78 might have triggered some hypo symptoms without numerically
being a hypo. An early hypo symptom is the release of adrenaline which
is a buzz/surge in energy and in fact some folks abuse adrenaline or
insulin just to get this effect, see for example the section on
"insulin abuse" at

http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin

If you feel the buzz turning on, you might want to check your bg right
then just to be really sure you aren't going hypo. NPH's peak is
relatively mild but it's a good thing to keep tabs on your bg's
especially when starting or changing doses. If you get up in the middle
of the night for any reason you might want to do some bg checks then
too.

One way to see if you just got a boost of adrenaline is to hold your
hands out in front of you with your elbows bent, trying to keep them
motionless, and see if there's any shaking or trembling going on.

Alternatively, just knowing that you were finally doing something that
would really really help with your bg's may have given you a positive
emotional buzz. When I've put off dealing with something for a long
time and then I finally take care of it, there is some emotional/stress
weight that is suddenly lifted.

78 is a pretty good place to end up, your docs must've known what they
were doing when they gave you that starting dose :-).

Tim.

[Ma¢k]

[Default] On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:03:02 -0500, "Lynn"
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"Lynn" <[email protected]> into the madness of usenet:

>Does anyone else get a mild euphoric sensation when their insulin kicks in?
>
>Yesterday was my first day on NPH, btw. Fbg was 78 this morning (unusual,
>but not hypo for me).
>
>Lynn
>GD, 36wks
>


actually while on insulin you have to redefine your hypo ranges. 2
points under "usually" isn't anything to worry about. that euphoria
was caused by a change in BG levels. be aware of it next time and
consider testing your BG a few extra times to see if you continue to
drop below that 78 or if you remain stable or come up a little.

What was the lowest Safe BG your Doctor said you could be?

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[Lynn]

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> Lynn wrote:
>> Does anyone else get a mild euphoric sensation when their insulin kicks
>> in?
>>
>> Yesterday was my first day on NPH, btw. Fbg was 78 this morning
>> (unusual,
>> but not hypo for me).
>
> If your blood sugar had been running higher for an extended period, the
> drop to 78 might have triggered some hypo symptoms without numerically
> being a hypo. An early hypo symptom is the release of adrenaline which
> is a buzz/surge in energy and in fact some folks abuse adrenaline or
> insulin just to get this effect, see for example the section on
> "insulin abuse" at
>
> http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
>
> If you feel the buzz turning on, you might want to check your bg right
> then just to be really sure you aren't going hypo. NPH's peak is
> relatively mild but it's a good thing to keep tabs on your bg's
> especially when starting or changing doses. If you get up in the middle
> of the night for any reason you might want to do some bg checks then
> too.
>
> One way to see if you just got a boost of adrenaline is to hold your
> hands out in front of you with your elbows bent, trying to keep them
> motionless, and see if there's any shaking or trembling going on.
>
> Alternatively, just knowing that you were finally doing something that
> would really really help with your bg's may have given you a positive
> emotional buzz. When I've put off dealing with something for a long
> time and then I finally take care of it, there is some emotional/stress
> weight that is suddenly lifted.
>
> 78 is a pretty good place to end up, your docs must've known what they
> were doing when they gave you that starting dose :-).
>
> Tim.
>

Actually, the buzz was last night, but my bg was also in the 70's so that
could have been it. I checked the last 3 hours before bedtime without
eating anything and the numbers were 73, 74, and 79. I wanted to make sure
that it wasn't going to keep dropping before I went to sleep. I had every
intention of checking during the night, as I am usually up at least once to
go the bathroom, but I was so sleepy I couldn't make myself wake up enough
to test. I remember thinking as I stumbled to the bathroom with my eyes
still closed, I'm walking, so I must be ok. I'll make sure to test when I
get that feeling again.

You definitely hit the nail on the head with the metal part. I have always
been so resistance to doctors and medication. I was very reluctant to start
the insulin, and frankly, felt like a failure. If I would only eat a little
better, exercise a little more... The past 48 hours have been so
incredible, though. I am still very limited on what I can eat, but I have
some wiggle room now. I had started to feel trapped and extremely
frustrated. Even better, my numbers have been wonderful - every one under
110 at 2 hours.

Lynn
GD, 36wks

[Lynn]

"Ma¢k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [Default] On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:03:02 -0500, "Lynn"
> <[email protected]> Maniacally Screamed the following like a drunken
> "Lynn" <[email protected]> into the madness of usenet:
>
>>Does anyone else get a mild euphoric sensation when their insulin kicks
>>in?
>>
>>Yesterday was my first day on NPH, btw. Fbg was 78 this morning (unusual,
>>but not hypo for me).
>>
>>Lynn
>>GD, 36wks
>>
>
>
> actually while on insulin you have to redefine your hypo ranges. 2
> points under "usually" isn't anything to worry about. that euphoria
> was caused by a change in BG levels. be aware of it next time and
> consider testing your BG a few extra times to see if you continue to
> drop below that 78 or if you remain stable or come up a little.
>
> What was the lowest Safe BG your Doctor said you could be?
>

Mack,

I've never asked the Docs how low is safe, and they've never said. I've
reported numbers as low as 67 earlier in the pregnancy, though, and they
didn't seem alarmed. I don't start to "feel" low until mid-60's. Euphoria
has never been a symptom before, but I will keep that in mind.

I am checking much more often now - every 1 to 2 hours, until I get more
familiar with the way the insulin affects me.

Lynn

[Ozgirl]

Lynn wrote:

> Actually, the buzz was last night, but my bg was also in
the 70's so
> that could have been it. I checked the last 3 hours
before bedtime
> without eating anything and the numbers were 73, 74, and
79. I
> wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to keep dropping
before I
> went to sleep. I had every intention of checking during
the night,
> as I am usually up at least once to go the bathroom, but I
was so
> sleepy I couldn't make myself wake up enough to test. I
remember
> thinking as I stumbled to the bathroom with my eyes still
closed, I'm
> walking, so I must be ok. I'll make sure to test when I
get that
> feeling again.
>
> You definitely hit the nail on the head with the metal
part. I have
> always been so resistance to doctors and medication. I
was very
> reluctant to start the insulin, and frankly, felt like a
failure.

Just my 2 cents worth here. There is absolutely nothing to
ever feel a failure about when it comes to doing what's best
for a child. We all aim for the best possible outcome to a
pregnancy, if it takes insulin, caesareans, epidurals or any
number of other things that we might not want to happen (but
end up needing), then it is all worth it.

If
> I would only eat a little better, exercise a little
more... The past
> 48 hours have been so incredible, though. I am still very
limited on
> what I can eat, but I have some wiggle room now. I had
started to
> feel trapped and extremely frustrated. Even better, my
numbers have
> been wonderful - every one under 110 at 2 hours.

Then you made the right decision, for both of you. Anything
that stresses you, stresses the baby. Now you can sit back
and enjoy things a bit for these last few weeks.

[Lynn]

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>
> Just my 2 cents worth here. There is absolutely nothing to
> ever feel a failure about when it comes to doing what's best
> for a child. We all aim for the best possible outcome to a
> pregnancy, if it takes insulin, caesareans, epidurals or any
> number of other things that we might not want to happen (but
> end up needing), then it is all worth it.
>
> If
>> I would only eat a little better, exercise a little
> more... The past
>> 48 hours have been so incredible, though. I am still very
> limited on
>> what I can eat, but I have some wiggle room now. I had
> started to
>> feel trapped and extremely frustrated. Even better, my
> numbers have
>> been wonderful - every one under 110 at 2 hours.
>
> Then you made the right decision, for both of you. Anything
> that stresses you, stresses the baby. Now you can sit back
> and enjoy things a bit for these last few weeks.
>

Thanks for the encouragement, Jan. I hope things go well with the upcoming
birth of your new grandbaby.

Lynn

[Ozgirl]

Lynn wrote:
> "Ozgirl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
>
>>
>> Just my 2 cents worth here. There is absolutely nothing
to
>> ever feel a failure about when it comes to doing what's
best
>> for a child. We all aim for the best possible outcome to
a
>> pregnancy, if it takes insulin, caesareans, epidurals or
any
>> number of other things that we might not want to happen
(but
>> end up needing), then it is all worth it.
>>
>> If
>>> I would only eat a little better, exercise a little
>> more... The past
>>> 48 hours have been so incredible, though. I am still
very
>> limited on
>>> what I can eat, but I have some wiggle room now. I had
>> started to
>>> feel trapped and extremely frustrated. Even better, my
>> numbers have
>>> been wonderful - every one under 110 at 2 hours.
>>
>> Then you made the right decision, for both of you.
Anything
>> that stresses you, stresses the baby. Now you can sit
back
>> and enjoy things a bit for these last few weeks.
>>
>
> Thanks for the encouragement, Jan. I hope things go well
with the
> upcoming birth of your new grandbaby.
>
> Lynn

Thanks Lynn, the baby shower is today. I was hoping for a
cool change as there are about 30 people coming and it's at
my daughter's house which is small but she wanted to let
everyone see her new house And yes it is cool, wet and
thundery.

[Ma¢k]

[Default] On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:58:06 -0500, "Lynn"
<[email protected]> Giggled into the madness of usenet:

>
>Mack,
>
>I've never asked the Docs how low is safe, and they've never said. I've
>reported numbers as low as 67 earlier in the pregnancy, though, and they
>didn't seem alarmed. I don't start to "feel" low until mid-60's. Euphoria
>has never been a symptom before, but I will keep that in mind.
>
>I am checking much more often now - every 1 to 2 hours, until I get more
>familiar with the way the insulin affects me.
>
>Lynn
>


mid to upper 60's though hypo are not dangerous by themselves unless
they cause you to become unsteady on your feet. A rapid drop to 67
would be the biggest problem for you.

Going back, seeing the amount and type of insulin you are using, the
late stage of the pregnancy etc, I doubt you will ever experience a
hypo in the 20's to 30's which would put you at risk of passing out
and all the other problems with severe hypos.

Your willingness to learn exactly how the insulin effects you is your
best defense. Learn how this works for you.

Have you furnished the nursery?

--
Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"



"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
....Theodore Roosevelt

(o ô)
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
....Bilbo Baggins


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offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
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[Lynn]

"Ma¢k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [Default] On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:58:06 -0500, "Lynn"
> <[email protected]> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>
>
>
> mid to upper 60's though hypo are not dangerous by themselves unless
> they cause you to become unsteady on your feet. A rapid drop to 67
> would be the biggest problem for you.
>
> Going back, seeing the amount and type of insulin you are using, the
> late stage of the pregnancy etc, I doubt you will ever experience a
> hypo in the 20's to 30's which would put you at risk of passing out
> and all the other problems with severe hypos.
>
> Your willingness to learn exactly how the insulin effects you is your
> best defense. Learn how this works for you.
>
> Have you furnished the nursery?
>
> --

So far, my blood sugar seems to be stable. I did get a 59 yesterday after a
walk. I usually test before my walk to see where I am, but forgot. I felt
fine, but it concerned me enough that I don't think I'll forget again. I
haven't made any changes in my diet, but my 2 hour numbers are much better -
85 to 105 instead of 115 to 130. I did decide to split my daily dose up
into 3 shots - Doc felt like it wasn't necessary, but that it was fine if it
made me more comfortable. It makes me more *mentally* comfortable, but not
*physically*... those shots don't feel so great. They gave me 100 syringes
with a 29 gauge, 1/2 needle. I didn't know at the time that they came
smaller and shorter, and I hate to toss the whole box. If I wasn't so close
to the end of the pregnancy, I would get something like the prefill pens.
Guess I'll just tough it out.

Nursery... :-) that's sweet of you to ask, thank you. We are actually in
an tight situation now. Our 2 year old sleeps in our bedroom and hubby and
I sleep on a futon in the living room. We were all sharing a room, but it
works better this way. No nursery. The little one will sleep in a bassinet
in the living room with us to make night time nursing easier. Things should
be better by this spring, so I'm looking forward to decorating then.

Lynn
GD, 36wks