Joe Trippi, diabetic, still drinks Diet Pepsi -- now key staff for John Edwards campaign -- John and Elizabeth Edwards, Bill Clinton, Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney, George Bush, Tony Blair, also use aspartame soda: Murray 2007.05.04

Joe Trippi, diabetic, still drinks Diet Pepsi -- now key staff for
John Edwards campaign -- John and Elizabeth Edwards, Bill Clinton,
Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney, George Bush, Tony Blair, also use aspartame
soda: Murray 2007.05.04
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1420


[ See also:

former NC Senator John Edwards gave up 8-12 cans daily Diet Coke about
January
2005, switching to caffeine free Diet Sprite Zero with 27% of the
aspartame per
can: Murray 2006.12.28
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1392 ]


"It's a great business - hurry up and wait," Trippi said, sipping a
Diet Pepsi between calls."

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local...olling_on.html

The Philadelphia Inquirer Posted on Mon, Apr. 09, 2007

Tom Knox, ready on the set, is rolling on
Behind the scenes with hired gun Joe Trippi, a media maven using a
candidate's millions to shape an image and lure votes.....

Contact staff writer Thomas Fitzgerald at 215-854-2718 or
tfitzgerald@phillynews.com.


www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/19/154849/379

Joe Trippi Joins Edwards for President
by philgoblue
Thu Apr 19, 2007 at 12:50:30 PM PDT

The press release from Edwards 2008:

The John Edwards for President campaign announced today that Joe
Trippi will be joining the campaign as a key member of the media team
and senior advisor.

Joe's Personal Website: http://www.joetrippi.com/

Wikipedia Entry on Joe Trippi

Joe Trippi is a long-time American Democratic campaign worker and
consultant. A mainstay in presidential politics, Trippi has worked on
the presidential campaigns of Edward Kennedy, Walter Mondale, Gary
Hart, and Dick Gephardt. Most notably, he served as campaign manager
for presidential candidate and former Vermont governor Howard Dean.

Also see Trippi's diary on MyDD, Transformational Politics -- Why the
Dean Campaign was Different from 26 December 2006.



http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007...od_bank_f.html

Bill Clinton's trip to The Edge and more
Apr 24, 2007, 06:32 PM | by Simon Vozick-Levinson

"Bill [ Clinton ] took occasional breaks from chatting to sip his Diet
Coke and enjoy speeches from chef Mario Batali, former SNL-er Fallon
(one of the night's two major honorees), and R.E.M.'s Michael Stipe."


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...61cheney1.html

Dick Cheney's Suite Demands
Veep's "rider" requires Sprite, 68 degrees, TVs tuned to Fox News

MARCH 23 2006 --After posting the performance contracts of artists
like Bruce Springsteen, the Rolling Stones, and U2, The Smoking Gun
has finally obtained the backstage demands of a real rock star. That's
right, below you'll find a copy of Vice President Dick Cheney's
standard "tour" rider. The document is provided to hotels where Cheney
will be bunking and lists how the Republican pol's "Downtime Suite"
needs to be outfitted. While the vice president's requests are pretty
modest (no extract-the-brown-M&M demands here), Cheney does like his
suite at a comfy 68 degrees. And, of course, all the televisions need
to be preset to the Fox News Channel (what, you thought he was a
Lifetime devotee?).

Decaf coffee should be ready upon his arrival along with four cans of
caffeine-free Diet Sprite......


http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?...&id=1288022003

2003.11.22 Best of mates go down the Dun Cow
ANDREW DENHOLM

"Mr Bush's Bitburger Drive non-alcoholic beer was £1.75.

Tony drank a Diet Coke (£1.50) and Mrs Blair had an Appletise for the
same price.

Mrs Bush was the only one to take an alcoholic drink - a glass of
Australian Shiraz at £2.60"


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...eaction118.xml

Slip-up reveals Bush and Blair's gossip secrets
By Alec Russell in St Petersburg
Last Updated: 3:05am BST 19/07/2006

"The recording also picks up Mr Bush speaking to other leaders,
bantering about his preference for Diet Coke, and making clear his
irritation at the formalities of summitry."


http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/po...ker-am_10.html
Tuesday, October 10, 2006 CNN Political Ticker AM

# ROMNEY'S HURDLE: In seeking a presidential candidate for 2008, why
would Republicans look further than the governor of Massachusetts?
Tall and urbane, Mitt Romney has a prime political pedigree, an
unblemished personal life and the cool confidence of a CEO. He is a
conservative Republican who won easy election in a fiercely liberal
state - then streamlined Massachusetts' government and enacted the
country's most sweeping healthcare overhaul. He is a passionate
defender of states' rights and recently has embraced strong views
against stem cell research and abortion - a reversal of earlier
positions.

He never swears, and his sole vice is Diet Coke.

Not incidentally, the 59-year-old governor boasts Ivy League
credentials and movie-star looks. But Romney faces a potential
obstacle that has not confronted a presidential hopeful for almost 50
years. As a devout Mormon - and a onetime bishop of the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - Romney adheres to a faith that
makes many Americans uncomfortable. Los Angeles Times: Romney's 2008
Bid Faces Issue of Faith
Posted 10/10/2006 07:58:00 AM
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1101
John Edwards gives up Diet Coke: The Cult of Diet Coke,
Eric Gillin: Murray 2004.07.12 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1102
John Edwards still drinks Diet Coke (aspartame): TIME Europe
July 19 issue: Murray 2004.07.12

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1065
politicians and celebrities hooked on diet sodas (aspartame):
Murray 2004.03.24

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1027
Senator John Edwards, avoid Diet Coke (aspartame toxicity): Murray
9.28.3
rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1037
Joe Trippi, heavy user of Diet Pepsi (aspartame toxicity), Dean's
campaign
manager: Murray 11.16.3 rmforall

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1016
President Bush & formaldehyde (aspartame) toxicity: Ramazzini
Foundation
carcinogenicity results Dec 2002: Soffritti: Murray 8.3.3 rmforall
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aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity research summary: Rich
Murray 2007.04.30
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1404

One liter aspartame diet soda, about 3 12-oz cans,
gives 61.5 mg methanol,
so if 30% is turned into formaldehyde, the formaldehyde
dose of 18.5 mg is 37 times the recent EPA limit of
0.5 mg per liter daily drinking water for a 10-kg child:
http://www.epa.gov/teach/chem_summ/F...de_summary.pdf
2007.01.05 [ does not discuss formaldehyde from methanol
or aspartame ]
http://www.epa.gov/teach/teachsurvey.html comments
teach@environmentalhealthconsulting.com


"Of course, everyone chooses, as a natural priority,
to actively find, quickly share, and positively act upon
the facts about healthy and safe food, drink, and
environment."

Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@comcast.net
505-501-2298 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages
group with 74 members, 1,420 posts in a public, searchable archive
http://RMForAll.blogspot.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1340
aspartame groups and books: updated research review of
2004.07.16: Murray 2006.05.11


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1395
Aspartame Controversy, in Wikipedia democratic
encyclopedia, 72 references (including AspartameNM # 864
and 1173 by Murray), brief fair summary of much more
research: Murray 2007.01.01


Dark wines and liquors, as well as aspartame, provide
similar levels of methanol, above 120 mg daily, for
long-term heavy users, 2 L daily, about 6 cans.

Within hours, methanol is inevitably largely turned into
formaldehyde, and thence largely into formic acid -- the
major causes of the dreaded symptoms of "next morning"
hangover.

Fully 11% of aspartame is methanol -- 1,120 mg aspartame
in 2 L diet soda, almost six 12-oz cans, gives 123 mg
methanol (wood alcohol). If 30% of the methanol is turned
into formaldehyde, the amount of formaldehyde, 37 mg,
is 18.5 times the USA EPA limit for daily formaldehyde in
drinking water, 2.0 mg in 2 L average daily drinking water.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1286
methanol products (formaldehyde and formic acid) are main
cause of alcohol hangover symptoms [same as from similar
amounts of methanol, the 11% part of aspartame]:
YS Woo et al, 2005 Dec: Murray 2006.01.20


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1143
methanol (formaldehyde, formic acid) disposition:
Bouchard M et al, full plain text, 2001: substantial
sources are degradation of fruit pectins, liquors,
aspartame, smoke: Murray 2005.04.02

"According to model predictions, congruent with the data in the
literature [Dorman et al., 1994; Horton et al., 1992], a certain
fraction of formaldehyde is readily oxidized to formate,
a major fraction of which is rapidly converted to CO2 and exhaled,
whereas a small fraction is excreted as formic acid in urine.

However, fits to the available data in rats and monkeys of Horton et
al. [1992] and Dorman et al. [1994] show that, once formed, a
substantial fraction of formaldehyde is converted to unobserved forms.

This pathway contributes to a long-term unobserved compartment.

The latter, most plausibly, represents either the formaldehyde that
[directly or after oxidation to formate] binds to various endogenous
molecules [Heck et al., 1983; Røe, 1982] or is incorporated in the
tetrahydrofolic-acid-dependent one-carbon pathway to become the
building block of a number of synthetic pathways
[Røe, 1982; Tephly and McMartin, 1984].

That substantial amounts of methanol metabolites or by-products are
retained for a long time is verified by Horton et al. [1992] who
estimated that 18 h following an iv injection of 100 mg/kg of
14C-methanol in male Fischer-344 rats,
only 57% of the dose was eliminated from the body.

>From the data of Dorman et al. [1994] and Medinsky et al. [1997],
it can further be calculated that 48 h following the start
of a 2-h inhalation exposure to 900 ppm of 14C-methanol vapors
in female cynomolgus monkeys,
only 23% of the absorbed 14C-methanol was eliminated from the body.

These findings are corroborated by the data of Heck et al. [1983]
showing that 40% of a 14C-formaldehyde inhalation dose remained
in the body 70 h postexposure.

In the present study, the model proposed rests on acute exposure
data, where the time profiles of methanol and its metabolites were
determined only over short time periods
[a maximum of 6 h of exposure and a maximum of 48 h postexposure].

This does not allow observation of the slow release from the long-term
components.

It is to be noted that most of the published studies on the detailed
disposition kinetics of methanol regard controlled short-term
[iv injection or continuous inhalation exposure over a few hours]
methanol exposures in rats, primates, and humans
[Batterman et al., 1998; Damian and Raabe, 1996;
Dorman et al., 1994; Ferry et al., 1980; Fisher et al., 2000;
Franzblau et al., 1995; Horton et al., 1992; Jacobsen et al., 1988;
Osterloh et al., 1996; Pollack et al., 1993; Sedivec et al., 1981;
Ward et al., 1995; Ward and Pollack, 1996].

Experimental studies on the detailed time profiles following
controlled repeated exposures to methanol are lacking."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1406
brain cell tangles and neuron death similar to Alzheimers
via low dose formaldehyde from methanol,
Chunlai Nie, Rongqiao He et al, China, 2007.01.23 BMC
Neuroscience 28 pages, 63 references: Murray 2007.01.24


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1385
Coca-Cola carcinogenicity in rats, Ramazzini Foundation,
F Belpoggi, M Soffritti, Annals NY Academy Sciences
2006 Sept, parts of 17 pages: Murray 2006.12.02

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1382
Fiorella Belpoggi & Morando Soffritti of Ramazzini
Foundation prove lifetime carcinogenicity of Coca-Cola,
aspartame, and arsenic, Annals of the NY Academy of
Sciences: Murray 2006.11.28


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1369
Bristol, Connecticut, schools join state program to limit
artificial sweeteners, sugar, fats for 8800 students,
Johnny J Burnham, The Bristol Press: Murray 2006.09.22

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1341
Connecticut bans artificial sweeteners in schools,
Nancy Barnes, New Milford Times: Murray 2006.05.25


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1376
soft drinks and adolescent hyperactivity, mental distress,
conduct problems, Lars Lien, Nanna Lien, Sonja Heyerdahl,
Mayne Thoresen, Espen Bjertness 2006 Oct., A J Pub Health:
Murray 2006.10.21

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1375
healthy diet, vitamins, and fish oil help reduce
depression and violence, studies by Joseph Hibbeln,
Bernard Gesch, and Stephen Schoenthaler, articles by
Felicity Lawrence in UK Guardian Unlimited and Pat
Thomas in The Ecologist: Murray 2006.10.21

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1353
carcinogenic effect of inhaled formaldehyde, Federal
Institute of Risk Assessment, Germany -- same safe level
as for Canada: Murray 2006.06.02

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1352
Home sickness -- indoor air often worse, as our homes
seal in pollutants [one is formaldehyde, also from the 11%
methanol part of aspartame],
Megan Gillis, WinnipegSun.com: Murray 2006.06.01

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1417
formaldehyde as a potent unexamined cofactor in cancer research --
sources include methanol, dark wines and liquors, aspartame,
wood and tobacco smoke: IARC Monographs on the Evaluation of
Carcinogenic Risks to Humans implicate formaldehyde in #88 and
alcohol drinks in #96: some related abstracts: Murray 2007.04.30

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1414
effect of aspartame on oncogene and suppressor gene expressions in
mice, Katalin Gambos, Istvan Ember, et al, University of Pecs,
Hungary, In Vivo 2007 Jan; scores of their relevant past studies since
1977: Murray 2007.04.14

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1366
toxicity in rat brains from aspartame, Vences-Mejia A,
Espinosa-Aguirre JJ et al 2006 Aug: Murray 2006.09.06

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1373
aspartame rat brain toxicity re cytochrome P450 enzymes,
especially CYP2E1, Vences-Mejia A, Espinosa-Aguirre JJ
et al, 2006 Aug, Hum Exp Toxicol: relevant abstracts re
formaldehyde from methanol in alcohol drinks:
Murray 2006.09.29

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1271
combining aspartame and quinoline yellow, or MSG and
brilliant blue, harms nerve cells, eminent C. Vyvyan
Howard et al, 2005 education.guardian.co.uk,
Felicity Lawrence: Murray 2005.12.21

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1277
50% UK baby food is now organic -- aspartame or MSG
with food dyes harm nerve cells, CV Howard 3 year study
funded by Lizzy Vann, CEO, Organix Brands,
Children's Food Advisory Service: Murray 2006.01.13

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1279
all three aspartame metabolites harm human erythrocyte
[red blood cell] membrane enzyme activity, KH Schulpis
et al, two studies in 2005, Athens, Greece, 2005.12.14:
2004 research review, RL Blaylock: Murray 2006.01.14


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1349
NIH NLM ToxNet HSDB Hazardous Substances Data Bank
inadequate re aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde,
formic acid): Murray 2006.08.19

http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/si...temp/~HwoSfJ:1
HSDB Hazardous Substances Data Bank: Aspartame

ASPARTAME CASRN: 22839-47-0
METHANOL CASRN: 67-56-1
FORMALDEHYDE CASRN: 50-00-0
FORMIC ACID CASRN: 64-18-6


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1052
DMDC: Dimethyl dicarbonate 200mg/L in drinks adds methanol
98 mg/L ( becomes formaldehyde in body ): EU Scientific
Committee on Foods 2001.07.12: Murray 2004.01.22


http://www.HolisticMed.com/aspartame mgold@holisticmed.com
Aspartame Toxicity Information Center Mark D. Gold
12 East Side Drive #2-18 Concord, NH 03301 603-225-2100

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame.../methanol.html
"Scientific Abuse in Aspartame Research"

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/957
safety of aspartame Part 1/2 12.4.2: EC HCPD-G SCF:
Murray 2003.01.12 EU Scientific Committee on Food,
a whitewash

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1045
http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame...2-response.htm
Mark Gold exhaustively critiques European Commission
Scientific Committee on Food re aspartame ( 2002.12.04 ):
59 pages, 230 references
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/782
RTM: Smith, Terpening, Schmidt, Gums:
full text: aspartame, MSG, fibromyalgia 2002.01.17
Jerry D Smith, Chris M Terpening,
Siegfried OF Schmidt, and John G Gums
Relief of Fibromyalgia Symptoms Following
Discontinuation of Dietary Excitotoxins.
The Annals of Pharmacotherapy 2001; 35(6): 702-706.
Malcolm Randall Veterans Affairs Medical Center,
Gainesville, FL, USA.
BACKGROUND: Fibromyalgia is a common rheumatologic
disorder that is often difficult to treat effectively.
CASE SUMMARY: Four patients diagnosed with fibromyalgia
syndrome for two to 17 years are described.
All had undergone multiple treatment modalities with
limited success.
All had complete, or nearly complete,
resolution of their symptoms within months after
eliminating monosodium glutamate (MSG)
or MSG plus aspartame from their diet.
All patients were women with multiple comorbidities
prior to elimination of MSG.
All have had recurrence of symptoms whenever MSG
is ingested.

Siegfried O. Schmidt, MD Asst. Clinical Prof.
siggy@shands.ufl.edu
Community Health and Family Medicine, U. Florida,
Gainesville, FL Shands Hospital West Oak Clinic
Gainesville, FL 32608-3629 352-376-5071
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/915
formaldehyde toxicity: Thrasher & Kilburn: Shaham: EPA:
Gold: Wilson: CIIN: Murray 2002.12.12

Thrasher (2001): "The major difference is that the
Japanese demonstrated the incorporation of FA and its
metabolites into the placenta and fetus.
The quantity of radioactivity remaining in maternal and
fetal tissues at 48 hours was 26.9% of the administered
dose." [ Ref. 14-16 ]

Arch Environ Health 2001 Jul-Aug; 56(4): 300-11.
Embryo toxicity and teratogenicity of formaldehyde.
[100 references]
Thrasher JD, Kilburn KH. toxicology@drthrasher.org
Sam-1 Trust, Alto, New Mexico, USA. full text
http://www.drthrasher.org/formaldehy..._toxicity.html

http://www.drthrasher.org/formaldehyde_1990.html full text
Jack Dwayne Thrasher, Alan Broughton, Roberta Madison.
Immune activation and autoantibodies in humans with
long-term inhalation exposure to formaldehyde.
Archives of Environmental Health. 1990; 45: 217-223.
PMID: 2400243
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Can't stand the diet pepsi myself - it is really foul; though pepsi one is
not bad.

On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:16:30 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com>
wrote:

>Can't stand the diet pepsi myself - it is really foul; though pepsi one is
>not bad.

Who is Joe Trippi, why would I care, and why was this
x-posted to asduk?

Alan, T2, Australia.

On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:11:41 GMT, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:16:30 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Can't stand the diet pepsi myself - it is really foul; though pepsi one is
>>not bad.
>
>Who is Joe Trippi, why would I care, and why was this
>x-posted to asduk?
>
>Alan, T2, Australia.


it was cross posted because rich murray is trolling for attention.

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
....Theodore Roosevelt

(o ô)
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
....Bilbo Baggins


DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
..

On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:11:41 +0000, Alan S wrote:

> On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:16:30 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Can't stand the diet pepsi myself - it is really foul; though pepsi one is
>>not bad.
>
> Who is Joe Trippi, why would I care, and why was this
> x-posted to asduk?
>
> Alan, T2, Australia.

Frankly, I have no idea.

On Fri, 04 May 2007 19:08:00 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:11:41 +0000, Alan S wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 May 2007 15:16:30 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Can't stand the diet pepsi myself - it is really foul; though pepsi one is
>>>not bad.
>>
>> Who is Joe Trippi, why would I care, and why was this
>> x-posted to asduk?
>>
>> Alan, T2, Australia.
>
>Frankly, I have no idea.

Well, next time you decide to respond to a spammer or troll
- check the "To" address line and cut the ones you don't
want.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Athens and The Adriatic

Instead of shooting the messenger, how about the relevance of the
evidence for diabetics, that comes from some mainstream professionals,
about possible toxic effects of artificial sweeteners for many groups
of people?

Since many of the symptoms involve neurotoxicity, then it is
reasonable to consider how many top political leaders are users, since
in fact a few are very heavy users.

Are they getting good advice that the evidence supports safety?

Are they inured to any seemingly minor risk, as with tobacco or
alcohol, or even dependent or addicted, or simply personally immune to
any toxicity, just as in the case of some people who can drink or
smoke daily lifetime without much harm or addiction?

Is there any evidence of political influence by certain huge vested
interests?

Since the toxic effects may increase problems with fertility,
pregnancy, failed pregnancies, premature birth, low birth weight,
birth defects, and increased allergy, autism, diabetes, and ADHD,
shouldn't this be as much a "Right to Life" issue as abortion?

Maybe it is contrary to the facts in this case to blindly apply an
automatic knee jerk dismissal to the messenger.

In mutual service, Rich Murray

"Of course, everyone chooses, as a natural priority,
to actively find, quickly share, and positively act upon
the facts about healthy and safe food, drink, and
environment."

Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@comcast.net
505-501-2298 1943 Otowi Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages
group with 74 members, 1,421 posts in a public, searchable archive
http://RMForAll.blogspot.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1340
aspartame groups and books: updated research review of
2004.07.16: Murray 2006.05.11

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1395
Aspartame Controversy, in Wikipedia democratic
encyclopedia, 72 references (including AspartameNM # 864
and 1173 by Murray), brief fair summary of much more
research: Murray 2007.01.01

On 4 May 2007 21:40:00 -0700, Rich Murray <rmforall@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Instead of shooting the messenger,


when that so called messanger is nothing more than a known nut case,
troll and seller of the so called "safe" sweetener he is pushing,
shooting the messenger is a very good idea.

If you have to continue lying in order to scam and shill stevia sales,
you'll never get it to be accepted anywhere by sane people.

Rish Murray is a known nutter and scammer.

--
Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"



"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
....Theodore Roosevelt

(o ô)
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
....Bilbo Baggins


DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
..

Blindly and ignorantly shooting the messenger undermines the
effectiveness of your own valuable, sizable support group for
supporting civil, evidence-based debate of toxicity issues, which
gravely impact the genesis, prevention, and treatment of diabetes.

The newsgroup bionet.toxicology, moderated by Assc. Prof. Charles A.
Miller III of Tulane University, has recently accepted two of my long
scientific review posts, including:

formaldehyde as a potent unexamined cofactor in cancer research --
sources include methanol, dark wines and liquors, aspartame, wood and
tobacco smoke: IARC Monographs on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks
to Humans implicate formaldehyde in #88 and alcohol drinks in #96:
some related abstracts: Murray 2007.04.30
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1417

Has he been deceived by a liar?

Please specify evidence that I am a seller of stevia, if you want to
succeed in your mission of warning fellow diabetics against what you
believe to be a toxic sweetener.

In mutual service, Rich Murray


www.som.tulane.edu/cancer/TCCnames/facm.html

Charles A. Miller III, Ph.D. [ photo ]
Associate Professor of Environmental Health Sciences
TCC Program Member rellim@tulane.edu
(504) 988-6942, fax (504) 988-1762
1430 Tulane Ave., Box SL-29, New Orleans, LA 70112-2699
Homepage on the EHS website:
http://www.ehs.tulane.edu/Faculty-Pr...ler-Chuck.html

Biographical Narrative:

Dr. Miller received a Bachelor of Science degree in biology from the
University of Alabama in Birmingham.
He worked as a research associate in the Pharmacology and Biochemistry
Departments and the Cancer Center at the University of Alabama in
Birmingham, studying anti-malarial drug toxicity with Roy Mundy,
chemical carcinogenesis with Awni Sarrif, colon cancer biology with
Michael Brattain, and the immunology of natural killer cells with Toru
Abo and Charles Balch.
He joined Max Costa's laboratory and studied carcinogenic mechanisms
of nickel and chromium compounds and earned a Doctor of Philosophy
degree in Environmental Oncology from the Sackler School of Basic
Medical Sciences of New York University.
During this time he was the recipient of a fellowship from Shell Oil
Company.
His post-doctoral research was conducted in David Kowalski's
laboratory at Roswell Park Cancer Institute.
There he described several new DNA replication origins in yeast.
He is presently an Associate Professor in the Environmental Health
Sciences Department at Tulane University School of Public Health and
Tropical Medicine.
His research interests include understanding the regulation of the
aryl hydrocarbon (dioxin) receptor by Hsp90 and co-chaperone proteins
and understanding the effects of various ligands on this signaling
pathway.

Recent Publications:

* Vujcic M, Miller III CA, Kowalski D. Activation of silent
replication origins at ARS elements near the HML locus in budding
yeast. Mol Cell Biol, 19:6098-109, 1999.
* Miller III CA, Umek RM, Kowalski D. The inefficient ribosomal
DNA origin of Saccharomyces cerevisiae contains an ARS consensus
sequence and a DNA unwinding element that are functionally
compromised. Nucleic Acids Res, 27:3921-30, 1999.
* Miller III CA. A human aryl hydrocarbon receptor signaling
pathway constructed in yeast displays additive responses to ligand
mixtures. Toxicol Appl Pharmacol, 160: 297-303,1999.
* Adachi J, Mori Y, Matsui S, Takigami H, Fujino J, Kitagawa H,
Miller III CA, Kato T, Saeki K, Matsuda T. Indirubin and indigo are
potent aryl hydrocarbon receptor ligands present in human urine. J
Biol Chem in press, 2001
* Miller III CA. Tetratricopeptide repeat-containing proteins
facilitate signaling by the human aryl hydrocarbon receptor-Arnt
complex expressed in yeast, Submitted.
* Cox M, Miller III CA. Genetic evidence that the p23 co-chaperone
regulates human dioxin receptor signaling in a yeast model system.
Submitted.


He approved this:

formaldehyde as a potent unexamined cofactor in cancer research --
sources include methanol, dark wines and liquors, aspartame, wood and
tobacco smoke: IARC Monographs on the Evaluation of Carcinogenic Risks
to Humans implicate formaldehyde in #88 and alcohol drinks in #96:
some related abstracts: Murray 2007.04.30
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1417

[ See also:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1286
methanol products (formaldehyde and formic acid) are main
cause of alcohol hangover symptoms [same as from similar
amounts of methanol, the 11% part of aspartame]:
YS Woo et al, 2005 Dec: Murray 2006.01.20


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1143
methanol (formaldehyde, formic acid) disposition:
Bouchard M et al, full plain text, 2001: substantial
sources are degradation of fruit pectins, liquors,
aspartame, smoke: Murray 2005.04.02 ]


" Absorbed formaldehyde can be oxidized to formate and carbon dioxide
or can be incorporated into biologic macromolecules. "

[ References include: Soffritti M, Belpoggi F, Lambertini L, Lauriola
M, Padovani M, Maltoni C. 2002. Results of long-term experimental
studies on the carcinogenicity of formaldehyde and acetaldehyde in
rats. Ann NY Acad Sci 982:87-105.

Soffritti M, Maltoni C, Maffei F, Biagi R. 1989. Formaldehyde: an
experimental multipotential carcinogen. Toxicol Ind Health 5:699-730.
"

Morando Soffritti is a member of the Working Group. ]


http://www.ehponline.org/members/2005/7542/7542.html free full text

After a thorough discussion of the epidemiologic, experimental, and
other relevant data, the working group concluded that formaldehyde is
carcinogenic to humans, based on sufficient evidence in humans and in
experimental animals.

In the epidemiologic studies, there was sufficient evidence that
formaldehyde causes nasopharyngeal cancer, "strong but not sufficient"
evidence of leukemia, and limited evidence of sinonasal cancer.

The working group also concluded that 2-butoxyethanol and 1-tert-
butoxy-2-propanol are not classifiable as to their carcinogenicity to
humans, each having limited evidence in experimental animals and
inadequate evidence in humans.

These three evaluations and the supporting data will be published as
Volume 88 of the IARC Monographs. PMID: 16140628


Environ Health Perspect. 2005 Sep; 113(9): 1205-8.
Meeting report: summary of IARC monographs on formaldehyde, 2-
butoxyethanol, and 1-tert-butoxy-2-propanol.

* Cogliano VJ, Vincent James Cogliano cogliano@iarc.fr,
* Grosse Y, Yann Grosse grosse@iarc.fr,
* Baan RA, Robert A. Baan baan@iarc.fr,
* Straif K, Kurt Straif, straif@iarc.fr,
* Secretan MB, Marie Béatrice Secretan secretan@iarc.fr,
* El Ghissassi F, Fatiha El Ghissassi elghissassi@iarc.fr,
* Working Group for Volume 88.


http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Staff/index.php
photo of Carcinogen Identification and Evaluation Group - Staff

Secretariat: Tel. +33 (0)4 72 73 85 07 Fax +33 (0)4 72 73 83 19

Head of Programme, Vincent James Cogliano

Secretary, Helene Lorenzen-Augros

Scientists:
Robert Baan (genetic toxicology)
Fatiha El Ghissassi (biochemistry/genetic toxicology)
Yann Grosse (carcinogenesis/bioassays)
Béatrice Secretan (molecular toxicology)
Kurt Straif (epidemiology)

Technical Assistants:
Sandrine Egraz
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IARC, 150 Cours Albert Thomas, 69372 Lyon CEDEX 08, France
Tel: +33 (0)4 72 73 84 85 - Fax: +33 (0)4 72 73 85 75
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http://monographs.iarc.fr cie@iarc.fr,

Monographs Recently Published

IARC Monographs Vol 88
Formaldehyde, 2-Butoxyethanol and 1-tert-Butoxypropan-2-ol

December 2006
478 pages
ISBN 92 832 1288 6
US$ 40

This volume re-evaluates the available evidence on the carcinogenic
potential of formaldehyde, a substance that is found in the workplace
and in the environment.
Formaldehyde is widely used in resins that bind wood products, pulp
and paper; in glasswool and rockwool insulation; in plastics and
coatings, textile finishing, chemical manufacture; and as a
disinfectant and preservative. Also evaluated are two glycol ethers,
2-
butoxyethanol and 1-tert-butoxypropan-2-ol, which are widely used as
solvents in paints and paint thinners, coatings, glass and surface
cleaners, inks, adhesives, personal-care products, and as chemical
intermediates.
As for formaldehyde, there is sufficient evidence in epidemiological
studies for nasopharyngeal cancer, strong but not sufficient evidence
for leukaemia, and limited evidence for sinonasal cancer.
The extensive scientific database on the mechanisms by which
formaldehyde can induce nasal-tract cancer in humans is considered.
These data provide strong support for the empirical observation of
nasopharyngeal cancer in humans.
In contrast, the lack of information on possible mechanisms by which
formaldehyde might increase the risk for leukaemia in humans tempered
the interpretation of the epidemiological data on that cancer.
Although this volume focuses on a qualitative assessment of the
carcinogenic potential of formaldehyde, subsequent predictions of the
risks for nasopharyngeal cancer should consider pertinent information
on mechanisms of carcinogenesis, including genotoxicity and dose-
dependent cytoxicity.
A theme common to the three evaluations is the consideration of
mechanistic information to develop and evaluate hypotheses on the
sequence of steps that lead to the induction of tumours in
experimental animals.
The hypothesized mechanisms described provide an interesting set of
cases that range from a vast literature on respiratory tract tumours
in rats induced by the inhalation of formaldehyde to some more
tentative hypotheses on the various tumours observed in animals
following exposure to both glycol ethers.
Recurring issues were the criteria that characterize a rare tumour or
how to introduce additional information to resolve difficult
questions; for example, how to consider the results of historical
controls.

International Agency for Research on Cancer, Lyon, France.

An international, interdisciplinary working group of expert
scientists met in June 2004 to develop IARC Monographs on the
Evaluation of the Carcinogenic Risk of Chemicals to Humans (IARC
Monographs) on formaldehyde, 2-butoxyethanol, and 1-tert-butoxy-2-
propanol.

Each IARC Monograph includes a critical review of the pertinent
scientific literature and an evaluation of an agent's potential to
cause cancer in humans.

Key words: 1-tert-butoxy-2-propanol, 2-butoxyethanol, carcinogen,
formaldehyde, glycol ethers, hazard identification, IARC Monographs,
leukemia, nasopharyngeal cancer, sinonasal cancer. Environ Health
Perspect 113: 1205-1208 (2005) . doi:10.1289/ehp.7542 available via
http://dx.doi.org/ [Online 12 May 2005]

Address correspondence to V.J. Cogliano, Carcinogen Identification
and Evaluation, International Agency for Research on Cancer, 150 cours
Albert Thomas, 69372 Lyon cedex 08, France.
Telephone: 33-4-72-73-84-76. Fax: 33-4-72-73-83-19. E-mail:
cogliano@iarc.fr,

The Working Group for Volume 88 of the IARC Monographs includes:
Ulrich Andrae (Germany) , andrae@gsf.de, Dr. Ulrich Andrae, GSF-
Institut für Toxikologie,. Postfach 1129, D-85758 Neuherberg, Germany
Fax: 149-089-3187-3449
Sherwood Burge (UK) ,
Rajendra S Chhabra (USA) , http://dir.niehs.nih.gov/dirtob/chhabra.htm
chhabrar@niehs.nih.gov, General Toxicology Group, TOB, ETP, DIR
John Cocker (UK) , Health and Safety Laboratory, Buxton, UK
john.cocker@hsl.gov.uk,
David N Coggon (UK) , MRC Environmental Epidemiology Unit at the
University of Southampton, UK dnc@mrc.soton.ac.uk,
Rory Conolly (USA) , Rconolly@ciit.org, Senior Research Biologist,
National Center for Computational Toxicology, Office of Research and
Development, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
Paul Demers (Canada) , pdemers@unixg.ubc.ca, Occupational Hygiene
Institute, University of British Columbia
David A Eastmond (USA) , david.eastmond@ucr.edu, Enviromental
Toxicology Graduate Program, University of California Riverside, CA
92521 (951) 827-4497 (Voice) (951) 827-3087 (Fax)
Elaine Faustman (USA) , faustman@u.washington.edu, Professor, Env. and
Occ. Health Sciences, Adjunct Professor, Evans School 206-685-2269
Victor J Feron (the Netherlands) , TNO Nutrition and Food Research
(retired), The Netherlands TNO-CIVO TOXICOLOGY AND NUTRITION INSTITUTE
Utrechtseweg 48 3704 HE Zeist The Netherlands (31)-3404 44 144
Michel Gérin (Canada, Chair) , gerinm@ere.umontreal.ca, Departement
de medecine du travail et d'hygiene du milieu, Universite de Montreal,
Quebec, Canada.
Marcel Goldberg (France) , marcel.goldberg@st-maurice.inserm.fr,
France -- National Institute of Health and Medical Research INSERM
Unite 88, HNSM 14 Rue de Val d'Osne F-94410 St. Maurice France [33]
1-451-83859 [33] 1-451-83889
Departement Sante Travail, Institut de Veille Sanitaire, 12, rue du
Val d'Osne, 94410 Saint Maurice, France
Bernard D Goldstein (USA) , bdgold@pitt.edu, Director of the
Environmental and Occupational Health Sciences Institute and Professor
and Chair of the Department of Environmental and Community Medicine at
UMDNJ - Robert Wood Johnson Medical School. Dean's Office, University
of Pittsburgh Graduate School of Public Health, A624 Crabtree Hall,
130 DeSoto St., Pittsburgh, PA 15261, USA.
Roland C Grafström (Sweden) , roland.grafstrom@imm.ki.se, Roland C
Grafström, Institute of Environmental Medicine, Karolinska Institutet,
Box 210, S−17177 Stockholm, Sweden
Telefax: +46-8−329402
Johnni Hansen (Denmark) , johnni@cancer.dk, PhD, Senior researcher,
Danish Cancer Registry , Institute of Cancer Epidemiology, Danish
Cancer Society, Strandboulevarden 49, DK-2100, Copenhagen, Denmark.
Michael Hauptmann (USA) , The National Cancer Institute
Kathy Hughes (Canada) , Head, Existing Substances Section 1, Health
Canada,
Ted Junghans (USA) , tjunghans@tech-res.com, Technical Resources
International, Inc., 6500 Rock Spring Drive, Suite 650, Bethesda, MD
20817, USA.
Dan Krewski (Canada) , MHA, MSc, PhD dkrewski@uottawa.ca, Professor
Director, R. Samuel McLaughlin Centre for Population Health Risk
Assessment, Institute of Population Healt, 1 Stewart Street, Room 320,
Phone: (613) 562-5381 Fax: (613) 562-5380
Steve Olin (USA) , solin@ilsi.org, ILSI International Life Sciences
Institute
Martine Reynier (France) , martine.reynier@inrs.fr, Mme Martine
REYNIER, Institut National de Recherche et de Sécurité (INRS), 30, rue
Olivier Noyer, 75680 Paris Cedex 14 (France) Tel : +33 (0)1 40 44 30
81 Fax : +33 (0)1 40 44 30 54
Judith Shaham (Israel) , yshaham@bezeqint.net, Occupational Cancer
Department, National Institute of Occupational and Environmental
Health, Raanana, Israel. MD, Occupational Cancer Unit, Occupational
Health & Rehabilitation Institute, P.O. Box 3, Raanana 43100, ISRAEL

Morando Soffritti (Italy) , crcfr@ramazzini.it, European Foundation
of Oncology and Environmental Sciences "B. Ramazzini", Cesare Maltoni
Cancer Research Center, Bologna, Italy

Leslie Stayner (USA) , lstayner@uic.edu, Division of Epidemiology and
Biostatistics, University of Illinois at Chicago School of Public
Health (M/C 923), 1603 West Taylor Street, Room 971, Chicago, IL
60612. E-mail:
Patricia Stewart (USA) , National Food Safety and Toxicology
Center, 165 Food Safety and Toxicology Building, Michigan State
University, East Lansing, MI 48824; fax (517) 432-2310
Douglas Wolf (USA) , wolf.doug@epa.gov, DVM, PhD, USEPA,
(Toxicology)

We gratefully acknowledge the important contributions of the
administrative staff of the IARC Monographs: S. Egraz, M. Lézère, J.
Mitchell, and E. Perez.

The IARC Monographs are supported, in part, by grants from the
U.S. National Cancer Institute, the European Commission, the U.S.
National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, and the U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency......

On 5 May 2007 09:02:21 -0700, Rich Murray <rmforall@comcast.net>
wrote:

>BS snipped

no matter how you twist it you are still a known troll and nutter and
liar. No-one believes anything you have to say. You did that to
yourself.

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
....Theodore Roosevelt

(o ô)
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
....Bilbo Baggins


DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
..

Rich Murray wrote:<troll drool snipped>
> ..
But you are NOT a "messenger"
you are a fucking fraud who posts your poisonous crap to the list

Uhhhhh, Mack and Ted, you'd better alert Google Groups to adjust their
search algorithms, which have for "aspartame" since last week listed
568 posts, of which 7 of the top 20 are from a known nut, fraud, and
spammer.....

The first of the top 20 items, curiously, about a purported aspartame
ban in the Philippines, is a classic Internet false rumor.....

Google Groups for a year or so has been returning a fixed list re
"aspartame", without any, nay none, from Rich Murray in the top few
dozen or so, so of course I am gratified that an impersonal artificial
intelligence has suddenly promoted my eight years of volunteer service
of providing polite, detailed artificial sweetener information, citing
and quoting recent mainstream research by established professionals.

Note that this week I spotlighted two recent studies that find
evidence that stevia is mutagenic, perhaps even to a degree that is a
threat to humans.

In the past three years, many have posted on alt.support.diabetes
about negative results with aspartame, ranging from distaste to
negative symptoms, and a few have responded positively to my
evidential contributions. Recently, there was a discussion of the
deterioration of aspartame sodas over weeks of time in hot rooms.

With about 1,000 members, and who knows how many lurkers and visitors,
alt.support.diabetes accomodates a wide range of people indeed. It is
only human nature for a few to persistently claim to represent
everyone, and even judge and punish whoever they choose to be offended
by.

On the whole, I am pleased to see that some of those who are
vehemently, blindly against Rich Murray, are otherwise sane,
considerate, compassionate, informed, warm, humane, intelligent,
tactful servers to many in need.

Since we seem to be fated to grow old together, perhaps, held so
closely in Time's grip, we can simply let old gripes quietly be gone,
and respond modestly and mildly to specific points of evidence. Eh?

In fact, it'd be neat for more members to simply describe how many
cans of diet drinks or packets of sweetener are used, since in eight
years on aspartame@yahoogroups.com, now over a 1,000 members listed,
most of the self-described aspartame reactors have been using over 6
and even over 12 cans daily for years. You see, no one in over two
decades has published any data about the number and symptoms of these
heavy users anywhere in the world.

A packet of Equal, 37 mg aspartame, is about 1/6 of a 12 oz can diet
soda, about 200 mg aspartame.

Also, there always has to be concern about unexpected, complex
interferences of any chemical with the many medications that help
diabetics.

A calm open atmosphere in the community could aid the mobilization and
sharing of its own collective experience and wisdom.

In mutual service, Rich Murray

Aspartame (Nutrasweet) banned in the Philippines Group:
misc.activism.progressive
<http://www.mityc.es/es-ES/index.htm> Philippines FIRST TO BAN
ASPARTAME: WATCH
THE DOMINOS FALL! ... The Philippine Congress has prohibited the
importation or the use
of aspartame, punishable by heavy fines. Below are the English and
Spanish. ...
Apr 1 by mar...@myrealbox.com - 1 message - 1 author

250 mg/kg bw aspartame for 28 days affects serum creatinine
and ... Group: sci.med.nutrition
250 mg/kg bw aspartame for 28 days affects serum creatinine and harms
kidneys in
male mice, Umi Barokah Irawati, abstract: Murray 2007.05.03 http://groups.yahoo.
com/group/aspartameNM/message/1418 http://260684.blogspot.com/2007/05/effect
....
May 3 by Rich Murray - 1 message - 1 author

Looking for MSG & Aspartame Link & Solution Group:
misc.health.alternative
short aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity research summary:
Murray
2007.02.02 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1404 One
liter aspartame
diet soda, about 3 12-oz cans, gives 61.5 mg methanol, so if 30% is
turned ...
Feb 3 by Rich Murray - 2 messages - 2 authors

second large study on low dose lifetime aspartame in rats ...
Group: alt.support.diabetes
second large study on low dose lifetime aspartame in rats confirms
carcinogenicity --
Morando Soffritti will give data and get Selikoff award April 23 at
Mount Sinai
School of Medicine in NYC: Murray 2007.04.19http://groups.yahoo.com/
group ...
Apr 25 by wrigleyvill...@gmail.com - 15 messages - 11 authors

New Study Confirms Aspartame Causes Cancer Group:
misc.activism.progressive
New Ramazzini Institute Study Confirms Aspartame Carcinogenic http://www.
newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2007/04/17/
new_study_by_ramazzini_institute_confirms_a
spartame_carcinogenic.htm Dr. Morando Soffritti of the European
Ramazzini Foundation ...
Apr 21 by mar...@myrealbox.com - 1 message - 1 author

Aspartame poisoning/please read!!! Group: REAL STUFF
Aspartame poisoning/please read!!! This is an interesting read.
You ... In
a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet
soda...
and literally dying a slow and miserable death. When ...
Feb 21 by Walter Reiser - 1 message - 1 author

Aspartame (Nutrasweet) Confirmed, Again, as Carcinogenic Group:
Organic Life
New Study by Ramazzini Institute Confirms Aspartame Carcinogenic
Categories
Health http://www.newmedia explorer. org/sepp/ 2007/04/17/ new_study_
by_ramazzini_ institute_ confirms_ aspartame_ carcinogenic. ...
Apr 18 by Courtney Kinear - 1 message - 1 author

Oh my, it is Frederic Rice, aspartame and deprogramming
loving ... Group: alt.religion.scientology
.... abuse through newsserver Altopia) http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/
anti-religious-extremists/fredri... Far be it from ME to defend
Fredric,
but do you even know what aspartame IS, you moron?
Apr 4 by butterflygrrrl - 2 messages - 2 authors

Caffeine Free Diet Cola, Sucralose not Aspartame. Group:
alt.alt.alt.alt.alt
.... i drink only diet sodas, when i drink them i often drink coffee,
and drink it with
artifical sweetener, such as aspartame, the benign protein duo that
gives you extra
energy, makes you live longer, and really turns the babes on however,
if ...
Apr 14 by the evil dr synt - 6 messages - 5 authors

Aspartame, the next FDA scandal Group: alt.impeach.bush
The artificial sweetener Aspartame, used by millions world wide, has
been identified
as a carcinogen, even in the low doses ingested commercially. ... How
was Aspartame
approved, finding its way into the world's food supply? ...
May 2 by Figaro - 2 messages - 2 authors


aspartame expose video,10 minutes, Aleen Sirgany, Fox 5 News,
Wash ... Group: alt.support.diabetes
aspartame expose video,10 minutes, Aleen Sirgany, Fox 5 News, Wash.
DC, 1999.11.15: Murray 2007.05.04 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/
message/1421 www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELgW4KBY-o4 ...
May 4 by Rich Murray - 3 messages - 2 authors

Sainsbury's, third largest UK supermarket, bans aspartame ...
Group: sci.med.nutrition
Sainsbury's, third largest UK supermarket, bans aspartame, artificial
flavours and
colours, in its private label soft drinks: beveragedaily.com: Murray
2007.04.24
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1416 "The group has
also ...
Apr 24 by Rich Murray - 1 message - 1 author

sucralose, aspartame, sugar legal melee, How Sweet It Isn't,
Avery ... Group: sci.med.nutrition
sucralose, aspartame, sugar legal melee, How Sweet It Isn't, Avery
Johnson, Wall
Street Journal: Murray 2007.04.06 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/
1413 http://online.wsj.com/public/article...82405851161797 ...
Apr 6 by Rich Murray - 1 message - 1 author

Why Hasn't the FDA Approved Stevia as GRAS (Generally Regarded
As ... Group: Organic Life
FDA denied aspartame approval for over 8 years until the newly
appointed FDA
commissioner Arthur Hull Hayes overruled the final scientic review
panel, approved
aspartame, and then went to work for GD Searle's (initial owner of
aspartame ...
Apr 10 by Courtney Kinear - 1 message - 1 author

aaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh Group: sci.med.prostate.prostatitis
.... the dependency. Aspartame and saccharin: are they safer than
Splenda?
Aside from Splenda, the most popular artificial sweeteners are
aspartame
(and its cousin, neotame) and saccharin. Foods with ...
Mar 31 by SNOORE WIK - 1 message - 1 author

second large study on low dose lifetime aspartame in rats
confirms ... Group: sci.med.nutrition
second large study on low dose lifetime aspartame in rats confirms
carcinogenicity --
Morando Soffritti will give data and get Selikoff award April 23 at
Mount Sinai
School of Medicine in NYC: Murray 2007.04.19 http://groups.yahoo.com/group
....
Apr 19 by Rich Murray - 1 message - 1 author

effect of aspartame on oncogene and suppressor gene expressions
in ... Group: sci.med.nutrition
effect of aspartame on oncogene and suppressor gene expressions in
mice, Katalin
Gambos, Istvan Ember, et al, University of Pecs, Hungary, In Vivo 2007
Jan; scores
of their relevant past studies since 1977: Murray 2007.04.14 http://groups
....
Apr 13 by Rich Murray - 1 message - 1 author

Taste test for artificial sweetners Group: alt.support.diet
news:1175219700.312129.306900@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com... Equal
(aspartame) was originally marketed as having no bitter
aftertaste. ...
Aspartame's sweetness takes about twice as long to cut off. ...
Mar 30 by dkw12002@yahoo.com - 5 messages - 4 authors

Study: Nutrasweet -> formaldehyde -> cancer Group:
misc.activism.progressive
Dear friends, If you want to live a healthier life, it would behoove
you to eliminate Aspartame, Nutrasweet, and Splenda from your diet
immediately. Sobering stuff. February 16th, 2007 http://www ...
Mar 9 by Evan Daniel Ravitz - 1 message - 1 author

Carbs in Yeast? Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb
Probably had undiagnosed PKU, every aspartame containing label warns
against
consumption by PKUs. Lew wrote: Aspartame is bad stuff. ... He eats
just about anything
he wants now, EXCEPT anything with aspartame in it. ...
Apr 5 by FOB - 15 messages - 9 authors

On 6 May 2007 18:02:17 -0700, Rich Murray <rmforall@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Uhhhhh, Mack and Ted, you'd better alert Google Groups to adjust their
>search algorithms, which have for "aspartame" since last week listed
>568 posts, of which 7 of the top 20 are from a known nut, fraud, and
>spammer.....
>
>The first of the top 20 items, curiously, about a purported aspartame
>ban in the Philippines, is a classic Internet false rumor.....
>
>Google Groups for a year or so has been returning a fixed list re
>"aspartame", without any, nay none, from Rich Murray in the top few
>dozen or so, so of course I am gratified that an impersonal artificial
>intelligence has suddenly promoted my eight years of volunteer service
>of providing polite, detailed artificial sweetener information, citing
>and quoting recent mainstream research by established professionals.


even nutters like you and the rest of anti-aspartame loonies can get
their BS reports and scams on the front of google's search egine. It's
very easy to do. Does not require a colledge degree. And does not
require posting facts.

your sources are still bodus, do not pan out when investigated and you
are stil a known loon and liar.

--
Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"



"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
....Theodore Roosevelt

(o ô)
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
....Bilbo Baggins


DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
..

Mack, Mack, hey man, I'm 64, retired after 19 years as a hands on home
hospice care giver, and I am honest, caring, dedicated, reliable,
gentle, experienced, restrained, responsible, a keen observer,
knowledgeable about every kind of disease, and wise, so just explain
how reasonable it is to proclaim like a broken record without evidence
that I have been spending the last 8 years of my life as an earnest
volunteer supplier of polite, accurate, balanced information about
toxicity issues from recent mainstream research, and the whole time,
be a loon and a liar.

What's bugging you? You're old enough to be able to recall other
episodes of obstinancy, which only yourself finally chose to recognize
and release, becoming freer and wiser thereby. Whatever you're
hiding from is inside you. What is it, really, about the topic I
specialize on that triggers YOU ?......


On May 6, 7:15 pm, Mâck©® <shootspamm...@deathtospam.net> wrote:
> On 6 May 2007 18:02:17 -0700, Rich Murray <rmfor...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Uhhhhh, Mack and Ted, you'd better alert Google Groups to adjust their
> >search algorithms, which have for "aspartame" since last week listed
> >568 posts, of which 7 of the top 20 are from a known nut, fraud, and
> >spammer.....
>
> >The first of the top 20 items, curiously, about a purported aspartame
> >ban in the Philippines, is a classic Internet false rumor.....
>
> >Google Groups for a year or so has been returning a fixed list re
> >"aspartame", without any, nay none, from Rich Murray in the top few
> >dozen or so, so of course I am gratified that an impersonal artificial
> >intelligence has suddenly promoted my eight years of volunteer service
> >of providing polite, detailed artificial sweetener information, citing
> >and quoting recent mainstream research by established professionals.
>
> even nutters like you and the rest of anti-aspartame loonies can get
> their BS reports and scams on the front of google's search egine. It's
> very easy to do. Does not require a colledge degree. And does not
> require posting facts.
>
> your sources are still bodus, do not pan out when investigated and you
> are stil a known loon and liar.
>
> --
> Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
> Type 1 since 1975http://www.alt-support-diabetes.orghttp://www.diabetic-talk.orghttp://www.insulin-pumpers.orghttp://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the
> President, or that we are to stand by the President
> right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
> but is morally treasonable to the American public."
> ...Theodore Roosevelt
>
> (o ô)
> --ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------
>
> "I don't know half of you
> half as well as I should like;
> and I like less than half of you
> half as well as you deserve."
> ....Bilbo Baggins
>
> DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
> offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
> If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
> me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
> .

On 7 May 2007 23:52:40 -0700, Rich Murray <rmforall@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Mack, Mack, hey man, I'm 64, retired after 19 years as a hands on home
>hospice care giver,

That is a truly frightening thought.


>and I am honest, caring, dedicated, reliable,
>gentle, experienced, restrained, responsible, a keen observer,
>knowledgeable about every kind of disease, and wise, so just explain

about every kind of disease. by making that statement alone you just
proved my point. You are a liar and a fraud.


and trust me when I say this, if you had come anywhere near my mother
when she was dying from cancer, I would have shot you on sight. Then
I would have checked to see what you tried to steal from her.

--
Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"



"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
....Theodore Roosevelt

(o ô)
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
....Bilbo Baggins


DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
..

"Rich Murray" <rmforall@comcast