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01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Jury Duty? Anyone here done jury duty recently?
I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
I get selected for a jury?
Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
And anything else you can think of...
Thanks,
Cathy | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty?
cathy wrote:
> Anyone here done jury duty recently?
>
> I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
> one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
> I get selected for a jury?
>
> Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
> lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
> in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
> me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
> security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
> probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
> you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
>
> And anything else you can think of...
>
> Thanks,
> Cathy
Hi Cathy,
I'm in the Los Angeles area, too. I hate the way they set up the jury
duty system and think that it needs a major restructuring...but that's
another story.
Security is not quite as detailed as the airports and I went right
through without any problem with my meter or syringes and insulin.
However, I did have a note from my doctor just in case...but they
should be pretty aware of what diabetic supplies are even if they do
search you. If you do get chosen to be on a jury rest assured that
they give plenty of breaks. I kept my meter and glucose tabs in my
jacket pocket but never had to use either while I was sitting there.
It would behoove you to tell the Baliff and Judge of your personal
situation and will find them very accomodating if they are informed
ahead of time.
Hopefully you will be able to dodge the proverbial bullet when calling
in every night. Some of my friends have, but I'm just not that lucky.
I'd rather learn my group had to report the first time I called in on
Sunday night as opposed to dodging it every night only to be called in
on Friday.
Best of luck,
Kurt | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty?
"cathy" <cwells21@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ekvaq2l5a64pi1r8p77s7tpf2q075lsbe0@4ax.com...
> Anyone here done jury duty recently?
>
> I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
> one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
> I get selected for a jury?
>
> Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
> lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
> in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
> me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
> security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
> probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
> you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
>
> And anything else you can think of...
>
> Thanks,
> Cathy
I am permanently excused from jury duty because of a bad back and
hemorrhoids, both of which prevents me from sitting still for long periods
of time. | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty?
"cathy" <cwells21@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ekvaq2l5a64pi1r8p77s7tpf2q075lsbe0@4ax.com...
> Anyone here done jury duty recently?
>
> I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
> one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
> I get selected for a jury?
>
> Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
> lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
> in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
> me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
> security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
> probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
> you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
>
> And anything else you can think of...
>
> Thanks,
> Cathy
Can you call the court house and ask them? I am sure that you are not the
first person with this problem to be on a jury.
You should feel honored to be chosen.
Jeff | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? I served a couple of times in my life, and the experiences were just
awful, but I'm sure that depends on the people in charge of the jury,
and not the process itself. I don't do jury duty anymore, since I like
to spread the joy of it around to those who have never served. :-)
Cher
Anon wrote in message ...
>I am permanently excused from jury duty because of a bad back and
>hemorrhoids, both of which prevents me from sitting still for long
periods
>of time. | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? LOL, honored, yes...that's the word I was looking for.
Cheri
Jeff wrote in message ...
>Can you call the court house and ask them? I am sure that you are not
the
>first person with this problem to be on a jury.
>
>You should feel honored to be chosen.
>
>Jeff | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty?
"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
news:FLSdnfERjO_EDzjYnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@inreach.com. ..
> LOL, honored, yes...that's the word I was looking for.
>
> Cheri
Actually, it wasn't a joke at all.
Getting to sit on a jury is both an honor and important responsibility. If
you were the person at the defendent's table or a plaintiff or defendent in
a civil case, would you want someone who took the responsibility seriously
or didn't care?
Jeff
> Jeff wrote in message ...
>
>>Can you call the court house and ask them? I am sure that you are not
> the
>>first person with this problem to be on a jury.
>>
>>You should feel honored to be chosen.
>>
>>Jeff
>
> | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't want the responsibility anymore, and
wouldn't do a good job of it, so it's best for me to pass the honor on
to those who have never served.
Cheri
Jeff wrote in message ...
>
>"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
>news:FLSdnfERjO_EDzjYnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@inreach.com ...
>> LOL, honored, yes...that's the word I was looking for.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>Actually, it wasn't a joke at all.
>
>Getting to sit on a jury is both an honor and important responsibility.
If
>you were the person at the defendent's table or a plaintiff or
defendent in
>a civil case, would you want someone who took the responsibility
seriously
>or didn't care? | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? On 10 Jan 2007 16:59:41 -0800, "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>cathy wrote:
>> Anyone here done jury duty recently?
>>
>> I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
>> one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
>> I get selected for a jury?
>>
>> Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
>> lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
>> in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
>> me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
>> security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
>> probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
>> you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
>>
>> And anything else you can think of...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Cathy
>
>Hi Cathy,
>
>I'm in the Los Angeles area, too. I hate the way they set up the jury
>duty system and think that it needs a major restructuring...but that's
>another story.
>
>Security is not quite as detailed as the airports and I went right
>through without any problem with my meter or syringes and insulin.
>However, I did have a note from my doctor just in case...but they
>should be pretty aware of what diabetic supplies are even if they do
>search you. If you do get chosen to be on a jury rest assured that
>they give plenty of breaks. I kept my meter and glucose tabs in my
>jacket pocket but never had to use either while I was sitting there.
>It would behoove you to tell the Baliff and Judge of your personal
>situation and will find them very accomodating if they are informed
>ahead of time.
>
>Hopefully you will be able to dodge the proverbial bullet when calling
>in every night. Some of my friends have, but I'm just not that lucky.
>I'd rather learn my group had to report the first time I called in on
>Sunday night as opposed to dodging it every night only to be called in
>on Friday.
>
>Best of luck,
>Kurt
Thanks for the advice, Kurt. I agree about the California jury system.
As I posted elsewhere, I've been called seven times in the past 10
years. It's getting reeel old.
OK, I'll call my doctor, see what she can give me in writing. That's a
good point that they've got to see diabetic supplies every day. Now if
I can just remember to leave my pocketknife in the car.... <g>
And thanks for the advice about informing the Baliff and Judge (should
it come to that). For some reason, that didn't occurr to me, and in my
previous experiences I don't recall anyone mentioning that particular
concern to anyone. I was excused from serving on a murder trial in
2005 because of medical issues - I broke a tooth and had an emergency
appointment with my dentist for a crown the following day. The judge
wanted the trial over and done with as fast as possible so he excused
me instead of delaying another day. I've never been so grateful to get
drilled on by the dentist!
Thanks for the advice!
Cathy | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:23:34 GMT, "Jeff" <jeff@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"cathy" <cwells21@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ekvaq2l5a64pi1r8p77s7tpf2q075lsbe0@4ax.com.. .
>> Anyone here done jury duty recently?
>>
>> I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
>> one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
>> I get selected for a jury?
>>
>> Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
>> lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
>> in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
>> me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
>> security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
>> probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
>> you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
>>
>> And anything else you can think of...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Cathy
>
>Can you call the court house and ask them? I am sure that you are not the
>first person with this problem to be on a jury.
>
>You should feel honored to be chosen.
>
Yeah, honored. I've been "honored" seven times in the last ten years.
I don't know who's hit list I'm on, but it seems the moment that 12
month period ends, my name goes right back into the hopper (you can't
be called more than once in a 12 month period. I'm averaging once
every 14 months).
However, of those seven times, I've only had to actually show up three
times. Once was two days before Christmas and every single pending
trial for that day was settled out of court, and the other two times I
got empaneled but was excused. I hope my luck holds.
Cathy | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? cathy" <cwells21@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a88bq296n74p1771ffpqu9kkro20sg87b3@4ax.com...
: On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 01:23:34 GMT, "Jeff" <jeff@hotmail.com> wrote:
:
: >
: >"cathy" <cwells21@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
: >news:ekvaq2l5a64pi1r8p77s7tpf2q075lsbe0@4ax.com.. .
: >> Anyone here done jury duty recently?
: >>
: >> I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
: >> one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
: >> I get selected for a jury?
: >>
: >> Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
: >> lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
: >> in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
: >> me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
: >> security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
: >> probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
: >> you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
: >>
: >> And anything else you can think of...
: >>
: >> Thanks,
: >> Cathy
: >
: >Can you call the court house and ask them? I am sure that you are not the
: >first person with this problem to be on a jury.
: >
: >You should feel honored to be chosen.
: >
: Yeah, honored. I've been "honored" seven times in the last ten years.
: I don't know who's hit list I'm on, but it seems the moment that 12
: month period ends, my name goes right back into the hopper (you can't
: be called more than once in a 12 month period. I'm averaging once
: every 14 months).
:
: However, of those seven times, I've only had to actually show up three
: times. Once was two days before Christmas and every single pending
: trial for that day was settled out of court, and the other two times I
: got empaneled but was excused. I hope my luck holds.
:
: Cathy
Hit list huh? Many moons ago, I was like you, getting called at least once
a year. Finally my mom told me the secret to get out and for them to stop
calling you. Civic duty or not, I had a family to help feed and at $5 a
day,
mom said, "their ALL rapists, murders and I'm a bigot." <g> After being
called 8x in 9yrs... I finally got the nerve to say that and I've never been
called back in 14yrs <g>
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Daily CHO: 150-200gm
TDD: 36-38u
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01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty?
Jeff wrote:
> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
> news:FLSdnfERjO_EDzjYnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@inreach.com. ..
> > LOL, honored, yes...that's the word I was looking for.
> >
> > Cheri
>
> Actually, it wasn't a joke at all.
>
> Getting to sit on a jury is both an honor and important responsibility. If
> you were the person at the defendent's table or a plaintiff or defendent in
> a civil case, would you want someone who took the responsibility seriously
> or didn't care?
I disagree, your honor.
Like most things, it was orginally set up as a fair and equitable
system that got the general public involved in the justice system. Not
anymore. It's a major inconvenience that drags a small percentage of
the citizens of a community kicking and screaming into a system that is
backed up like a sewer. Not sure where you live, Jeff, but in
California there appears to be that a few are having to carry the load
for the many. Read what Cathy has to say, or rk, or talk to anyone who
served jury duty in Cali and you will find that they get called in year
after year. The numbers don't make sense. With the population of the
L.A. area one should not have to have the "honor" of serving more than
once every 7 or 8 years. That's not the case. There are many reasons
for that but I don't want to go into it here. Added to that, when one
is forced to do jury duty they run the risk of being put on a case for
weeks at a time. Can you just give up 3 or 4 weeks of your life right
now? Some honor.
Changes have to be made to the way they select juries. I have a couple
of ideas, but I'm not in the position to implement them. One of course
is to pay enough so it becomes an all volunteer jury system wherein
those who serve are paid a good salary and must complete some kind of
training first in order to be eligible. Before you say that it would
compromise our forefathers wish to have a fair and impartial jury hear
cases of their peers, I would like to remind you of the O.J. jury and
the Robert Blake jury, to name just a couple of the examples of how
good the present system is working. As a matter of fact, I will submit
them as "Exhibit A."
This post is now in recess. All rise...
Best,
Kurt | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
news:9K-dnUbRJP11CTjYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@inreach.com...
> Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't want the responsibility anymore, and
> wouldn't do a good job of it, so it's best for me to pass the honor on
> to those who have never served.
>
Maybe that's why I get called so often -- so many others get out of it
somehow.
bj | 
01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? [Default] On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:08:31 GMT, cathy
<cwells21@NOSPAMhotmail.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>Anyone here done jury duty recently?
>
>I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
>one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
>I get selected for a jury?
>
>Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
>lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
>in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
>me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
>security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
>probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
>you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
>
>And anything else you can think of...
>
>Thanks,
>Cathy
what type of diabetes do you have?
I'm a type 1 and have served on several juries. Even when not pumping
it was never a problem.
If you need to bring hard candies with you. I had brought hard
candies and nab crackers and cheese and crackers and peanut butter.
Hint you need to unwrap them and put them in your pocket in a zip lock
or napkin. If you feel your going hypo, discretely eat the snacks. If
at any time you feel you are going hypo to fast, then raise your hand
and ask the judge for a break to handle the hypo and bring your BG up.
You should tell the judge at the time of selection that you are
diabetic and may need to ask for a break to care for a low blood
sugar.
I can tell you though, if you do not tell the judge what your needs
may be at the time of jury selection the judge won't be very friendly.
I've seen it happen. Another diabetic did not speak up during jury
selection and had a hypo during the trial. After the juror came back
from taking care of it the judge chewed out the whole jury and then
asked each individual one at a time if they had medical condition that
might need attention during the trial. He warned them if they did not
speak up at that time they would regret it later if they interrupted
the trial.
That judge didn't have a problem when I asked for a 5 minute break.
If you are a type 2 not prone to hypos then you can delay testing
until the breaks or lunch.
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01-11-2007, 03:46 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? Kurt, do you hear that sound? It's the sound of me applauding your post,
and since your post has already been adjourned, I won't be held in
contempt. :-)
Cheri
Kurt wrote in message
<1168484582.154718.313980@i39g2000hsf.googlegroups .com>...
>I disagree, your honor. 
>
>Like most things, it was orginally set up as a fair and equitable
>system that got the general public involved in the justice system. Not
>anymore. It's a major inconvenience that drags a small percentage of
>the citizens of a community kicking and screaming into a system that is
>backed up like a sewer. Not sure where you live, Jeff, but in
>California there appears to be that a few are having to carry the load
>for the many. Read what Cathy has to say, or rk, or talk to anyone who
>served jury duty in Cali and you will find that they get called in year
>after year. The numbers don't make sense. With the population of the
>L.A. area one should not have to have the "honor" of serving more than
>once every 7 or 8 years. That's not the case. There are many reasons
>for that but I don't want to go into it here. Added to that, when one
>is forced to do jury duty they run the risk of being put on a case for
>weeks at a time. Can you just give up 3 or 4 weeks of your life right
>now? Some honor.
>
>Changes have to be made to the way they select juries. I have a couple
>of ideas, but I'm not in the position to implement them. One of course
>is to pay enough so it becomes an all volunteer jury system wherein
>those who serve are paid a good salary and must complete some kind of
>training first in order to be eligible. Before you say that it would
>compromise our forefathers wish to have a fair and impartial jury hear
>cases of their peers, I would like to remind you of the O.J. jury and
>the Robert Blake jury, to name just a couple of the examples of how
>good the present system is working. As a matter of fact, I will submit
>them as "Exhibit A."
>
>This post is now in recess. All rise...
>
>Best,
>Kurt | 
01-11-2007, 08:07 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? I get called often, but I choose not to go anymore. Fortunately, I don't
have to now. :-)
Cheri
bj wrote in message ...
>"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
>news:9K-dnUbRJP11CTjYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@inreach.com...
>> Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't want the responsibility anymore, and
>> wouldn't do a good job of it, so it's best for me to pass the honor
on
>> to those who have never served.
>>
>
>Maybe that's why I get called so often -- so many others get out of it
>somehow.
>bj | 
01-11-2007, 08:07 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:08:31 GMT, cathy <cwells21@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
>Anyone here done jury duty recently?
>
>I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
>one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
>I get selected for a jury?
Ask you doctor. Mine has said there is no way he's going to let me
serve because I have to eat on a schedule. He just fills out the paper
work saying I have uncontrolled diabetes. I said that mine is under
control to which he said it wouldn't be if I couldn't eat at the usual
times.
>
>Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
>lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
>in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
>me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
>security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
>probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
>you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
>
>And anything else you can think of...
>
>Thanks,
>Cathy
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01-11-2007, 06:11 PM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? "GrandpaChuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4ME.org> wrote in message
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>
> Mine has said there is no way he's going to let me
> serve because I have to eat on a schedule. He just fills out the paper
> work saying I have uncontrolled diabetes. I said that mine is under
> control to which he said it wouldn't be if I couldn't eat at the usual
> times.
>
Given the flexibility of my schedule anyway, I don't think I could get away
with that. Maybe I could tell them I have to take a pill & then wait 30 mins
before eating (which is true for Real Meals) & would the breaks be long
enough for that, so at least I wouldn't have to serve on a long trial.
I didn't have to go the last time I got called because it was within the
2-year window for that court. So I'm expecting another summons just about
anytime now. One year I went twice -- once to local, once to Federal court.
My name must be "sticky" in the selection system.
bj | 
01-11-2007, 07:19 PM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? Kurt <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Jeff wrote:
: > "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
: > news:FLSdnfERjO_EDzjYnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@inreach.com. ..
: > > LOL, honored, yes...that's the word I was looking for.
: > >
: > > Cheri
: >
: > Actually, it wasn't a joke at all.
: >
: > Getting to sit on a jury is both an honor and important responsibility. If
: > you were the person at the defendent's table or a plaintiff or defendent in
: > a civil case, would you want someone who took the responsibility seriously
: > or didn't care?
: I disagree, your honor.
: Like most things, it was orginally set up as a fair and equitable
: system that got the general public involved in the justice system. Not
: anymore. It's a major inconvenience that drags a small percentage of
: the citizens of a community kicking and screaming into a system that is
: backed up like a sewer. Not sure where you live, Jeff, but in
: California there appears to be that a few are having to carry the load
: for the many. Read what Cathy has to say, or rk, or talk to anyone who
: served jury duty in Cali and you will find that they get called in year
: after year. The numbers don't make sense. With the population of the
: L.A. area one should not have to have the "honor" of serving more than
: once every 7 or 8 years. That's not the case. There are many reasons
: for that but I don't want to go into it here. Added to that, when one
: is forced to do jury duty they run the risk of being put on a case for
: weeks at a time. Can you just give up 3 or 4 weeks of your life right
: now? Some honor.
: Changes have to be made to the way they select juries. I have a couple
: of ideas, but I'm not in the position to implement them. One of course
: is to pay enough so it becomes an all volunteer jury system wherein
: those who serve are paid a good salary and must complete some kind of
: training first in order to be eligible. Before you say that it would
: compromise our forefathers wish to have a fair and impartial jury hear
: cases of their peers, I would like to remind you of the O.J. jury and
: the Robert Blake jury, to name just a couple of the examples of how
: good the present system is working. As a matter of fact, I will submit
: them as "Exhibit A."
: This post is now in recess. All rise...
: Best,
: Kurt
In New York a few years ago they changed the system to include all kinds o
previously exhempt catagories, lawyers, doctors, mothers of young
children(automatically) older people, etc. Now we get called less
frequently and, if not put on a jury may be finished in 3 days instead of
the old 2 weeks of sitting in a jury pool room doing crossword puzzles
sould you not get impaneled or pu on a jury. It has made quite a
difference. I have not been called since my eye problems so I don't know
if that would excuse me.. My husband is no longer called, no because he
is 85, but because, even with a hearing aid, he cannot hear wel enough.
Wendy | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? "W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
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:
: My husband is no longer called, no because he
: is 85, but because, even with a hearing aid, he cannot hear wel enough.
:
: Wendy
That excuse wouldn't work I know for a fact in CA, IL, and FL.
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01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty?
It would be in CA now. I know because my hubby just got a summons for
the local court last week, and one of the mark offs is hearing impaired,
right next to doesn't speak the language. They do not want to provide
interpreters if they don't have to.
Cheri
rk wrote in message ...
>"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:eo6300$22$1@reader2.panix.com...
>:
>: My husband is no longer called, no because he
>: is 85, but because, even with a hearing aid, he cannot hear wel
enough.
>:
>: Wendy
>
>That excuse wouldn't work I know for a fact in CA, IL, and FL.
>
>--
>Reisa, T1
>dx-5/00 asd-7/00
>Animas IR1250 pumper
>Daily CHO: 150-200gm
>TDD: 36-38u
>Last A1C: Rising! oPPs!
>
>
>
> | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? cathy wrote:
:: Anyone here done jury duty recently?
::
:: I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
:: one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
:: I get selected for a jury?
Go.
::
:: Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
:: lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
:: in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter
:: with me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
:: security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
:: probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
:: you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
::
:: And anything else you can think of...
::
:: Thanks,
:: Cathy | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? rk wrote:
> Hit list huh? Many moons ago, I was like you, getting called at least
> once a year. Finally my mom told me the secret to get out and for
> them to stop calling you. Civic duty or not, I had a family to help
> feed and at $5 a day,
> mom said, "their ALL rapists, murders and I'm a bigot." <g> After
> being called 8x in 9yrs... I finally got the nerve to say that and
> I've never been called back in 14yrs <g>
So that's the trick - say something which is ungrammatical
& doesn't make sense?
"their ALL rapists, murders and I'm a bigot"
What does this even start to mean? | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? LOL cheap asses!!! go figure... I move out
and they change the rules.. oh well, good
for others now. I know the other states,
haven't changed, especially in FL and here.
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Animas IR1250 pumper
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TDD: 36-38u
Last A1C: Rising! oPPs!
"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
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:
: It would be in CA now. I know because my hubby just got a summons for
: the local court last week, and one of the mark offs is hearing impaired,
: right next to doesn't speak the language. They do not want to provide
: interpreters if they don't have to.
:
: Cheri
:
:
: rk wrote in message ...
: >"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
: >news:eo6300$22$1@reader2.panix.com...
: >:
: >: My husband is no longer called, no because he
: >: is 85, but because, even with a hearing aid, he cannot hear wel
: enough.
: >:
: >: Wendy
: >
: >That excuse wouldn't work I know for a fact in CA, IL, and FL.
: >
: >--
: >Reisa, T1
: >dx-5/00 asd-7/00
: >Animas IR1250 pumper
: >Daily CHO: 150-200gm
: >TDD: 36-38u
: >Last A1C: Rising! oPPs!
: >
: >
: >
: >
:
: | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? Yeah, you know until a few years ago they used to drag them in no matter
what. You moved too soon Reisa, but on the other hand, you're lucky to
be out of here, even though I know you miss it. Hope your New Year is
starting out good. :-)
Cheri
rk wrote in message ...
>LOL cheap asses!!! go figure... I move out
>and they change the rules.. oh well, good
>for others now. I know the other states,
>haven't changed, especially in FL and here. | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? cathy wrote:
> Anyone here done jury duty recently?
>
> I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
> one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
> I get selected for a jury?
>
> Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
> lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
> in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
> me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
> security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
> probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
> you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
>
> And anything else you can think of...
>
> Thanks,
> Cathy
They recess every hour or two, do it in the jury room or bathroom. | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty?
"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
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> Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't want the responsibility anymore, and
> wouldn't do a good job of it, so it's best for me to pass the honor on
> to those who have never served.
>
> Cheri
>
>
I have served a number of times. Jury duty is not something where you can
serve once and then assume that everyone else will take "one" turn.
It certainly is not enjoyable. It can be difficult and emotional, but I
agree with bj. If you are ever faced with trial -- let's say for something
that you did *not* do -- are you going to be happy if all of the "good
citizens" have opted out of jury duty and left you to the possible
injustices of people with an attitude like yours?
MaryL | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty?
"MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
news:K0Aph.22943$kn7.19540@newsfe23.lga...
>
> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
> news:9K-dnUbRJP11CTjYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@inreach.com...
>> Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't want the responsibility anymore, and
>> wouldn't do a good job of it, so it's best for me to pass the honor on
>> to those who have never served.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
>
> I have served a number of times. Jury duty is not something where you can
> serve once and then assume that everyone else will take "one" turn.
>
> It certainly is not enjoyable. It can be difficult and emotional, but I
> agree with bj. If you are ever faced with trial -- let's say for
> something that you did *not* do -- are you going to be happy if all of the
> "good citizens" have opted out of jury duty and left you to the possible
> injustices of people with an attitude like yours?
>
> MaryL
>
Sorry...I should have said that I agree with Jeff's statement.
MaryL | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? I'm a type two so didn't have to worry about needles going through...but I
did let the judge know I was a diabetic and had to be careful when I ate. He
told me that whenever I felt I needed a break to let him know and he would
call a recess. He was the nicest Judge I have ever met. I would think if you
have a note from your Dr you would get through ok. Isn't there a number on
your summons for questions? If so call them to get all the info you need. I
had been called up for Jury duty in a small town South of us....it was for
the same time when I was scheduled for cataract surgery...so I called and
told them I would have to reschedule...the lady was very nice ...she said
wait a week to call about rescheduling because she was pretty sure deals
were going to be made and there wasn't going to be a trial...she said then
we will call you and cancel and your name will be taken off the
list...wasn't that nice of her?
--
Jacquie
"Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> cathy wrote:
>> Anyone here done jury duty recently?
>>
>> I realize that being diabetic isn't enough of a medical excuse to get
>> one out of doing jury duty, so what's the best way to deal with it if
>> I get selected for a jury?
>>
>> Like, is security going to give me a hard time about my meter? (the
>> lancet is a sharp pointed object, after all) Should I have something
>> in writing from my doctor proving I'm diabetic and need the meter with
>> me?(I'm in Los Angeles, and have been assured that court house
>> security is at least as restrictive as airport/TSA security, and
>> probably moreso). And how do you test at the appropriate times if
>> you're sitting in a jury box listening to testimony?
>>
>> And anything else you can think of...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Cathy
>
> Hi Cathy,
>
> I'm in the Los Angeles area, too. I hate the way they set up the jury
> duty system and think that it needs a major restructuring...but that's
> another story.
>
> Security is not quite as detailed as the airports and I went right
> through without any problem with my meter or syringes and insulin.
> However, I did have a note from my doctor just in case...but they
> should be pretty aware of what diabetic supplies are even if they do
> search you. If you do get chosen to be on a jury rest assured that
> they give plenty of breaks. I kept my meter and glucose tabs in my
> jacket pocket but never had to use either while I was sitting there.
> It would behoove you to tell the Baliff and Judge of your personal
> situation and will find them very accomodating if they are informed
> ahead of time.
>
> Hopefully you will be able to dodge the proverbial bullet when calling
> in every night. Some of my friends have, but I'm just not that lucky.
> I'd rather learn my group had to report the first time I called in on
> Sunday night as opposed to dodging it every night only to be called in
> on Friday.
>
> Best of luck,
> Kurt
> | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? It used to be pretty easy to get out of it here in this area...but now you
about have to be on your death bed to get out of it. My Mother had terminal
cancer and had only a few months to live..the lady at the courthouse told
her she would have to bring her note to the jury waiting room...with all
those people and her having very aggressive chemo? We called her Dr. Her Dr
called the Mayor and the Mayor called the DA...needless to say they accepted
the note from one of us 
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Jacquie
"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
> news:9K-dnUbRJP11CTjYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@inreach.com...
>> Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't want the responsibility anymore, and
>> wouldn't do a good job of it, so it's best for me to pass the honor on
>> to those who have never served.
>>
>
> Maybe that's why I get called so often -- so many others get out of it
> somehow.
> bj
>
> | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? I have been picked to be in the Jury Pool...but actually have only been
picked once...It was an ugly murder trial.
--
Jacquie
"MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
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>
> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
> news:9K-dnUbRJP11CTjYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@inreach.com...
>> Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't want the responsibility anymore, and
>> wouldn't do a good job of it, so it's best for me to pass the honor on
>> to those who have never served.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
>
> I have served a number of times. Jury duty is not something where you can
> serve once and then assume that everyone else will take "one" turn.
>
> It certainly is not enjoyable. It can be difficult and emotional, but I
> agree with bj. If you are ever faced with trial -- let's say for
> something that you did *not* do -- are you going to be happy if all of the
> "good citizens" have opted out of jury duty and left you to the possible
> injustices of people with an attitude like yours?
>
> MaryL
> | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
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>
> "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
> news:9K-dnUbRJP11CTjYnZ2dnUVZ_sCinZ2d@inreach.com...
>> Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't want the responsibility anymore, and
>> wouldn't do a good job of it, so it's best for me to pass the honor on
>> to those who have never served.
>>
>
> I have served a number of times. Jury duty is not something where you can
> serve once and then assume that everyone else will take "one" turn.
>
> It certainly is not enjoyable. It can be difficult and emotional, but I
> agree with bj. If you are ever faced with trial -- let's say for
> something that you did *not* do -- are you going to be happy if all of the
> "good citizens" have opted out of jury duty and left you to the possible
> injustices of people with an attitude like yours?
>
Did I say that here? I know I've said it any number of times "live"!
Remember, too, not all trials are criminal.
I've served on criminal, civil, & mental health trials. I've been nearly
physically ill from the stress of deliberations -- & self-doubt about my
evaluation of some witnesses. I've also been exasperated (along with several
other members of the jury) at some people's thick-headedness at following
the judge's instructions.
I knew a police officer who was not excused (in his home jurisdiction, not
where he worked) -- "you can serve on a civil trial". During one of my terms
I was excused from all criminal panels (due to a part-time job in law
enforcement) but still had to come in every day for any civil trials (which
there weren't any of since it was the holiday season!). I served on a
criminal trial with a *lawyer* -- she was some kind of contract negotiator,
not a litigator or any kind of criminal practice; the judge just wanted to
make sure she would go by *his* rule of what the law was! I've seen a mother
of a young baby told to call -- right there from the clerk's desk -- about
continuing child-care arrangements (grandma) for another couple of days.
I've been yelled at by a judge for stating a fact of my experience that I
thought might make me liable to bias with certain witnesses.
I've met a lot of different kinds of people in the waiting room -- from the
very well-placed, intelligent, educated (& brought work to do) to those I
wouldn't want to have to explain myself to & had my doubts about their
ability to understand complex issues.
Nobody should be exempt "just because", unless they can't do the job, as in
having some sort of mental or physical impairment that makes it impossible
or unfair (to the litigants) for them to serve.
But I've about had it, too, with getting called on such a "regular basis".
:-)
bj | 
01-12-2007, 01:32 AM
| | | Re: Jury Duty? "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in message
news:l8idnVM8XcNNOjvYnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@inreach.com. ..
>
> It would be in CA now. I know because my hubby just got a summons for
> the local court last week, and one of the mark offs is hearing impaired,
> right next to doesn't speak the language. They do not want to provide
> interpreters if they don't have to.
>
That may be part of it, but bear in mind that not all hearing impaired
people understand sign language.
bj | | |