Just checking in

I just wanted to jump in and tell you all how much I have been
learning by reading your posts. I am excited about your posting
meals. I'll see something and think, "Wow, there is something else I
will be allowed to eat!". Sounds yummy! I am going to Wal-Mart for
an el cheapo glucometer today even though the doc hasn't prescribed
one yet. I want to keep a tight check, an active roll, and figure out
what keeps me stable and what foods do not. Oh, we had a mega feed at
work yesterday, my first "temptation" as it were. I took my own food
- baked fish with garlic, onions, maters and gr. peppers instead of
eating their hot dogs, etc. Ate mostly raw veggies, a small slice of
watermelon and was quite proud of myself for not caving to my "carb
addictive" behavior. Getting all that bad food out of my life has
relieved the cravings. I feel better, more alert and not tired, and
have more stamina at work. I feel better mentally. But then I
sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all. I
know this is normal so I don't fret over it. Then I bounce back and
try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
this has really made me take charge of my health. Sorry I rambled
on! Just want others in the same boat to know there is hope for us
and lots of support from others like yourselves!

On Jul 7, 9:34 am, clhane...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just wanted to jump in and tell you all how much I have been
> learning by reading your posts. I am excited about your posting
> meals. I'll see something and think, "Wow, there is something else I
> will be allowed to eat!". Sounds yummy! I am going to Wal-Mart for
> an el cheapo glucometer today even though the doc hasn't prescribed
> one yet. I want to keep a tight check, an active roll, and figure out
> what keeps me stable and what foods do not. Oh, we had a mega feed at
> work yesterday, my first "temptation" as it were. I took my own food
> - baked fish with garlic, onions, maters and gr. peppers instead of
> eating their hot dogs, etc. Ate mostly raw veggies, a small slice of
> watermelon and was quite proud of myself for not caving to my "carb
> addictive" behavior. Getting all that bad food out of my life has
> relieved the cravings. I feel better, more alert and not tired, and
> have more stamina at work. I feel better mentally. But then I
> sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all. I
> know this is normal so I don't fret over it. Then I bounce back and
> try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
> this has really made me take charge of my health. Sorry I rambled
> on! Just want others in the same boat to know there is hope for us
> and lots of support from others like yourselves!

Way to go! Eating in social gatherings can be a challenge, but you got
around it and sound like you weren't too deprived. Get that meter and
test. Record what you eat and amounts and the bg results, that way you
will know what works for you. The posting of meals is a great thread,
although a lot off topic at the moment, for us newer members to ideas
from of things to try. I have seen several things on there that I may
not have thought of to try eating and they seem to work for some
members. I have found that recording on an easy to use excel log book
that I made by adjusting a more complicated on called kelly log is
working well for me- I just use diet & exercise at the moment. I don't
remember if you are on meds or not but you are welcome to try this log
if you would like to.
Keep up the good work, Sally

clhane...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> I just wanted to jump in and tell you all how much I have been
> learning by reading your posts. I am excited about your posting
> meals. I'll see something and think, "Wow, there is something else I
> will be allowed to eat!". Sounds yummy!

Foods that look and taste good are a blessing especially if they make
you hungrier.

> I am going to Wal-Mart for
> an el cheapo glucometer today even though the doc hasn't prescribed
> one yet. I want to keep a tight check, an active roll, and figure out
> what keeps me stable and what foods do not.

Overeat anything and you will experience a PP spike.

> Oh, we had a mega feed at
> work yesterday, my first "temptation" as it were. I took my own food
> - baked fish with garlic, onions, maters and gr. peppers instead of
> eating their hot dogs, etc. Ate mostly raw veggies, a small slice of
> watermelon and was quite proud of myself for not caving to my "carb
> addictive" behavior. Getting all that bad food out of my life has
> relieved the cravings.

If your hunger/cravings have decreased, you are doing something wrong.

> I feel better, more alert and not tired, and
> have more stamina at work. I feel better mentally. But then I
> sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all.

This would indicate that indeed you are doing something wrong.

> I know this is normal so I don't fret over it.

Actually, this is not normal.

Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your "sudden crashes."

> Then I bounce back and
> try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
> this has really made me take charge of my health. Sorry I rambled
> on! Just want others in the same boat to know there is hope for us
> and lots of support from others like yourselves!

May reading the following help you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Healing

http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

congratulations on passing the first temptation and congratulations on
having a fabulous attitude. That attitude will carry you far on your
journey through diabetes.

Loretta

On Jul 7, 6:34 am, clhane...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just wanted to jump in and tell you all how much I have been
> learning by reading your posts. I am excited about your posting
> meals. I'll see something and think, "Wow, there is something else I
> will be allowed to eat!". Sounds yummy! I am going to Wal-Mart for
> an el cheapo glucometer today even though the doc hasn't prescribed
> one yet. I want to keep a tight check, an active roll, and figure out
> what keeps me stable and what foods do not. Oh, we had a mega feed at
> work yesterday, my first "temptation" as it were. I took my own food
> - baked fish with garlic, onions, maters and gr. peppers instead of
> eating their hot dogs, etc. Ate mostly raw veggies, a small slice of
> watermelon and was quite proud of myself for not caving to my "carb
> addictive" behavior. Getting all that bad food out of my life has
> relieved the cravings. I feel better, more alert and not tired, and
> have more stamina at work. I feel better mentally. But then I
> sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all. I
> know this is normal so I don't fret over it. Then I bounce back and
> try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
> this has really made me take charge of my health. Sorry I rambled
> on! Just want others in the same boat to know there is hope for us
> and lots of support from others like yourselves!

Hey Sally,

I've been following your posts, but as I haven't been able to get to
ASD as often as I'd like, so I'm a bit behind the times. First off, I
want to welcome you to the group, although I'm sorry you had to join
us.

You are doing very well, taking the "bull by the horns" so to speak,
and educating yourself. You should be very proud of yourself for
resisting temptation at work. For me, the hardest thing was not
changing my diet, but resisting the urge to join in on what friends
and co-workers are doing. In my life before diabetes that meant
eating the same crap everyone else did. Soon learned that I can eat
as I need to and still be part of the group. It really isn't all
about the food.

Like you, I found my carb cravings stopped when I quit eating high
density carbs. This was such a relief to me. I don't miss my old
diet at all!

Good for you on getting your glucometer. As I'm sure everyone has
already mentioned, it's your best tool for finding out how your body
reacts to different foods. While we can say generally what might
cause you problems,and give you a clue what to hone in on first,
everyone is a little different. One of my personal idiosyncracies is
that I can eat raw carrots, but cooked ones spike me. Go figure!

Keep posting. And never be "sorry" for "rambling". Sharing
experiences, ideas and support is what this group is about!

Best regards,
Michelle C., t2
diet & exercise

A big oops! I just realized I'd looked at the post wrong and thought
your name was Sally. Now realize Sally is one who responded to you.
My apologies!

Also, please don't listen to Dr. C about the hunger issue, or anything
else for that matter. His religious agenda clouds his medical
judgement most of the time.

Again, my apologies for confusing you and Sally~and apologies to Sally
too!

Best regards,
Michelle C, T2
diet & exercise


On Jul 7, 6:34 am, clhane...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I just wanted to jump in and tell you all how much I have been
> learning by reading your posts. I am excited about your posting
> meals. I'll see something and think, "Wow, there is something else I
> will be allowed to eat!". Sounds yummy! I am going to Wal-Mart for
> an el cheapo glucometer today even though the doc hasn't prescribed
> one yet. I want to keep a tight check, an active roll, and figure out
> what keeps me stable and what foods do not. Oh, we had a mega feed at
> work yesterday, my first "temptation" as it were. I took my own food
> - baked fish with garlic, onions, maters and gr. peppers instead of
> eating their hot dogs, etc. Ate mostly raw veggies, a small slice of
> watermelon and was quite proud of myself for not caving to my "carb
> addictive" behavior. Getting all that bad food out of my life has
> relieved the cravings. I feel better, more alert and not tired, and
> have more stamina at work. I feel better mentally. But then I
> sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all. I
> know this is normal so I don't fret over it. Then I bounce back and
> try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
> this has really made me take charge of my health. Sorry I rambled
> on! Just want others in the same boat to know there is hope for us
> and lots of support from others like yourselves!

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:34:10 -0700, clhaney00@yahoo.com wrote:

> I want to keep a tight check, an active roll, and figure out
>what keeps me stable and what foods do not. Oh, we had a mega feed at
>work yesterday, my first "temptation" as it were. I took my own food
>- baked fish with garlic, onions, maters and gr. peppers instead of
>eating their hot dogs, etc. Ate mostly raw veggies, a small slice of
>watermelon and was quite proud of myself for not caving to my "carb
>addictive" behavior. Getting all that bad food out of my life has
>relieved the cravings. I feel better, more alert and not tired, and
>have more stamina at work. I feel better mentally. But then I
>sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all. I
>know this is normal so I don't fret over it. Then I bounce back and
>try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
>this has really made me take charge of my health.

Good for you - Cathy, isn't it? Sounds like you're doing great! Having
the wisdom not to fret over the odd crash takes some doing. And your
lunch sounds way nicer than processed hotdogs : )

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:34:10 -0700, clhaney00 wrote:

> I just wanted to jump in and tell you all how much I have been
> learning by reading your posts. I am excited about your posting
> meals. I'll see something and think, "Wow, there is something else I
> will be allowed to eat!". Sounds yummy! I am going to Wal-Mart for
> an el cheapo glucometer today even though the doc hasn't prescribed
> one yet. I want to keep a tight check, an active roll, and figure out
> what keeps me stable and what foods do not. Oh, we had a mega feed at
> work yesterday, my first "temptation" as it were. I took my own food
> - baked fish with garlic, onions, maters and gr. peppers instead of
> eating their hot dogs, etc. Ate mostly raw veggies, a small slice of
> watermelon and was quite proud of myself for not caving to my "carb
> addictive" behavior. Getting all that bad food out of my life has
> relieved the cravings. I feel better, more alert and not tired, and
> have more stamina at work. I feel better mentally. But then I
> sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all. I
> know this is normal so I don't fret over it. Then I bounce back and
> try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
> this has really made me take charge of my health. Sorry I rambled
> on! Just want others in the same boat to know there is hope for us
> and lots of support from others like yourselves!

FWIW - I find I can eat pretty much anything I want - I just have to limit
portions of high carb entities. I have nothing against the venerable hot
dog - I often just pitch the bun. Snacks I've found work well include:
cheese, nuts, sugar free jello with canned whipped cream, small portion of
popcorn - 1/2 square of Baker's semi-sweet chocolate is only 7 grams carbs.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:43:44 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:

>FWIW - I find I can eat pretty much anything I want - I just have to limit
>portions of high carb entities. I have nothing against the venerable hot
>dog - I often just pitch the bun. Snacks I've found work well include:
>cheese, nuts, sugar free jello with canned whipped cream, small portion of
>popcorn - 1/2 square of Baker's semi-sweet chocolate is only 7 grams carbs.


Hi Ray,

You have got the idea.... You know what you have to do for health, and
for life. You are on the right track, and I think you are wonderful
for sharing. Thanks.

Will, T2

On Jul 7, 8:34 am, clhane...@yahoo.com wrote:
> But then I
> sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all. I
> know this is normal so I don't fret over it. Then I bounce back and
> try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
> this has really made me take charge of my health.

I find these times really difficult. When I'm depressed... I want
about a kazillion carbs of just complete crap. And I DON'T want the
low-carb versions, I want the REAL crap!

I drove a truck over-the-road for about a year, and found when I was
having a bad day, I'd just say to myself something like, "Well, I'm
homesick, fastest way to cure that is to just get up and drive."

Similar thinking about being depressed... I can be depressed... or I
can be depressed and sick-as-a-dog too. Better off just being
depressed... depression comes and goes, but the effects of "cheating"
are something I have to live with for life.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:34:10 -0700, clhaney00@yahoo.com
wrote:

>I just wanted to jump in and tell you all how much I have been
>learning by reading your posts. I am excited about your posting
>meals. I'll see something and think, "Wow, there is something else I
>will be allowed to eat!". Sounds yummy! I am going to Wal-Mart for
>an el cheapo glucometer today even though the doc hasn't prescribed
>one yet. I want to keep a tight check, an active roll, and figure out
>what keeps me stable and what foods do not. Oh, we had a mega feed at
>work yesterday, my first "temptation" as it were. I took my own food
>- baked fish with garlic, onions, maters and gr. peppers instead of
>eating their hot dogs, etc. Ate mostly raw veggies, a small slice of
>watermelon and was quite proud of myself for not caving to my "carb
>addictive" behavior. Getting all that bad food out of my life has
>relieved the cravings. I feel better, more alert and not tired, and
>have more stamina at work. I feel better mentally. But then I
>sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all. I
>know this is normal so I don't fret over it. Then I bounce back and
>try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
>this has really made me take charge of my health. Sorry I rambled
>on! Just want others in the same boat to know there is hope for us
>and lots of support from others like yourselves!

You're going to do well when you get that meter; you're
already in the right frame of mind. Attitude counts for a
lot.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management

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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:34:10 -0700, clhaney00@yahoo.com wrote:

>I just wanted to jump in and tell you all how much I have been
>learning by reading your posts. I am excited about your posting
>meals. I'll see something and think, "Wow, there is something else I
>will be allowed to eat!". Sounds yummy! I am going to Wal-Mart for
>an el cheapo glucometer today even though the doc hasn't prescribed
>one yet. I want to keep a tight check, an active roll, and figure out
>what keeps me stable and what foods do not. Oh, we had a mega feed at
>work yesterday, my first "temptation" as it were. I took my own food
>- baked fish with garlic, onions, maters and gr. peppers instead of
>eating their hot dogs, etc. Ate mostly raw veggies, a small slice of
>watermelon and was quite proud of myself for not caving to my "carb
>addictive" behavior. Getting all that bad food out of my life has
>relieved the cravings. I feel better, more alert and not tired, and
>have more stamina at work. I feel better mentally. But then I
>sometimes all of a sudden crash and get kinda saddened at it all. I
>know this is normal so I don't fret over it. Then I bounce back and
>try to be positive and look on the bright side and be grateful that
>this has really made me take charge of my health. Sorry I rambled
>on! Just want others in the same boat to know there is hope for us
>and lots of support from others like yourselves!

G'day G'day,

Thank you for your post. You explain things so clearly in words that
every one can understand.

Hey, you ought to be proud taking your own food. That has to be the
clearest indication of future success; taking control of your own
destiny.

IMHO your food selection was excellent. Baked fish is a great source
of protein with low saturated fats and no trans fats. The garlic and
onions are excellent choices for reasons that are bit technical to
explain in a short post. Is Woo Hoo you guys say?

Whatever it is this is celebration material.

Raw vegetables greatly reduce the influx of carbs and calories for
that matter while providing all the minerals you need for health.

I loved your description of how you feel. It really does come as a
surprise to many T2s that when they give up the concentrated "ENERGY"
foods pushed at them by unscrupulous advertisers they do feel more
alert and have more stamina. Glad you have learnt to keep a little
something in reserve, to protect yourself from hypos.

Believe you me, you have nothing to apologize for. You weren't
rambling. What you have provided is an excellent road map for other
newbies on the general strategy to enjoy better health in the future.

So thank you on behalf of all those who care about the health of
others.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Self exposed LIAR "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD/NJ/WOKA" <heartdoc15
@emorycardiology.com> excreted in news:1183817993.908513.90870
@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

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> clhane...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> Pwayewfuwwy in Jesus' awesome wove,
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> Andwew <><
> --
> Andwew B. Chung, MD/PhD/NJ/WOKA**
> Ex-Cawdiowogist
This is what Chung did with his PhD and this is what Chung's
'discernment' is worth.

From: ROCKETMAN51...@aol.com
Date: 10/04/2001 11:18 AM
To: and...@heartmdphd.com

Dr. Chung:
Any comments I make at this time are mine alone and do not necessarily
reflect the views of CFHC.

After going through this difficult time with you, I understand that you
are probably not interested in anything I have to say. Also, I believe
what I do say will probably be twisted or interpreted by you to suit
your purposes. For that reason I will be as direct and declarative as
possible.

Your website comments about cardiology in Ocala, FL are detractions and
border on slander. These are legal terms, and one of the important
features of them is that the comments are published. Your website
fulfills that requirement. Now just reflect on the fact that you are the
only one to make such insinuations or allegations. Any reasonable person
seeing these things may justifiably conclude that it is you that is out
of step, not the other 15 or 20 cardiologists in Ocala. As I have in the
past, I am trying to get you to see the reality of the situation from
outside your head. You have chosen to ignore the
good advice I tried to give while you were here. I hope you will soon
realize you are doing yourself more harm than good by publishing your
dispute. It would be better to let it go, before your reputation suffers
more.

Speaking of reputations, I have spent 35 years building mine. I can call
on physicians from around the world and this community to attest to it.
I can also call upon the many physicians I trained to do cardiac
catheterization (over 25 years) to offer a positive opinion about my
work. You can't. Being just out of training, you have no reputation
except the one you have just established here in Ocala. You are
continuing to establish your reputation by publishing your website. How
do you think what you have said would look to another physician-perhaps
an employer- when he reads it? Do you think he or anyone would conclude
that you are a reputable physician, easy to work with and a team player?

Personally, if I find that you speak disparagingly of me, or my work to
any patient or physician, be assured I will not take the matter lightly.
Whatever you think of me personally, or whatever you think of my
professional activity, you do not have the right to condemn either me or
the work to another and thereby compromise my reputation. You may
disagree with me, or state we have a difference of opinion, but you may
not state that I am practicing less that optimum cardiology. Once again,
if I find that you have done so (and I hope it has not happened yet) I
will certainly take the matter to the State Board of Medicine for a
hearing. If the Florida State Board finds cause, and renders a censure,
that must be transmitted to all other State Boards on your next and all
future applications for licensure. And once again, just common sense
should tell you that hitting back in your situation is counterproductive
and could be disastrous for you. But as I told you face to face, you may
have great book smarts, but your actions have shown that you have no
common sense that permits you to operate successfully in a professional
community. And, once again, I will tell you what I did before, you do
not operate in a vacuum. Your practice, wherever it may be, must be
according to the community standard, regardless of what you perceive
that to be. And an attitude that you vocalized by saying that you were
unable to change the community standard in Ocala speaks loudly and
clearly about your perception of reality and your inability to work with
your colleagues.

Dr. Chung, I urgently advise you to let the past go. Look to your future
which could be bright. If you persist in these efforts of hitting back
and trying to justify your actions to a world that looks upon such
attempts as childish or immature and unprofessional, you will continue
to do yourself a disservice. You lost your job because you talked
yourself out of it.

Frank Hildner MD
f...@orgren.org


Taken from
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...d559bc684dd89f
72?hl=en&

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