Kidney Function

About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
information about kidney function.

My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the first
time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out
what this meant at
http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I
went back and made these calculations for the times when I had
creatinine measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6
years -
http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...in/glance.html

The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the glomerular
filtration rate -
http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.

Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age,
sex, and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated.
This illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their
lab reports.

Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html

National Kidney Foundation - http://www.kidney.org/
Kidney Disease: Causes - http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.

Frank

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <xyz@adelphia.netng>
wrote:

>About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
>information about kidney function.


Would, those be the people who don't control their bg's?

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <xyz@adelphia.netng>
wrote:

>About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
>information about kidney function.
>
>My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the first
>time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out
>what this meant at
>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I
>went back and made these calculations for the times when I had
>creatinine measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6
>years -
>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...in/glance.html
>
>The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the glomerular
>filtration rate -
>http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>
>Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age,
>sex, and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated.
>This illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their
>lab reports.
>
>Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>
>National Kidney Foundation - http://www.kidney.org/
>Kidney Disease: Causes - http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.


My recent test results were:

BUN 22.5 (.5 over 5 t o 22.0 mg/dL)
Creatinine: .9 (normal is .5 to 1.1 mg/dL)
BUN / Creatinine ratio: 23.7 (normal being 8 to 22.0 mg/dL)

The Doc said that the Creatinine was way more important than
the BUN.

<dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
newsde5r2dpdp83mff3hiqnfbudiqq1mhr6n6@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <xyz@adelphia.netng>
> wrote:
>
>>About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
>>information about kidney function.
>
>
> Would, those be the people who don't control their bg's?
>
>

They be the ones. Probably 60% of diabetics are not under good control by
ADA standards. Probably 90% are not under good control by
alt.support.diabetes standards.

Sarah

<dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ecf5r2dc0uoa6s6f0tkom39m7qmrr57s9n@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <xyz@adelphia.netng>
> wrote:
>
>>About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
>>information about kidney function.
>>
>>My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the first
>>time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out
>>what this meant at
>>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I
>>went back and made these calculations for the times when I had
>>creatinine measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6
>>years -
>>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...in/glance.html
>>
>>The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the glomerular
>>filtration rate -
>>http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>>
>>Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age,
>>sex, and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated.
>>This illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their
>>lab reports.
>>
>>Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
>>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>>
>>National Kidney Foundation - http://www.kidney.org/
>>Kidney Disease: Causes - http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>
>
> My recent test results were:
>
> BUN 22.5 (.5 over 5 t o 22.0 mg/dL)
> Creatinine: .9 (normal is .5 to 1.1 mg/dL)
> BUN / Creatinine ratio: 23.7 (normal being 8 to 22.0 mg/dL)
>
> The Doc said that the Creatinine was way more important than
> the BUN.
>

With a normal Creatinine, BUN is more an indication of dehydration than
anything else. Drinking a lot of water the day before your next lab test
might bring it down.

If you are taking a diuretic for HBP, your BUN would nearly always be high.

Sarah

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:07:32 -0800, "Sarah" <sarahpa1980@yahoo.com>
wrote:


>They be the ones. Probably 60% of diabetics are not under good control by
>ADA standards. Probably 90% are not under good control by
>alt.support.diabetes standards.


wow...90%? my god.

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:12:46 -0800, "Sarah" <sarahpa1980@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
><dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:ecf5r2dc0uoa6s6f0tkom39m7qmrr57s9n@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <xyz@adelphia.netng>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
>>>information about kidney function.
>>>
>>>My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the first
>>>time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out
>>>what this meant at
>>>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I
>>>went back and made these calculations for the times when I had
>>>creatinine measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6
>>>years -
>>>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...in/glance.html
>>>
>>>The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the glomerular
>>>filtration rate -
>>>http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>>>
>>>Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age,
>>>sex, and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated.
>>>This illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their
>>>lab reports.
>>>
>>>Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
>>>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>>>
>>>National Kidney Foundation - http://www.kidney.org/
>>>Kidney Disease: Causes - http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>>
>>
>> My recent test results were:
>>
>> BUN 22.5 (.5 over 5 t o 22.0 mg/dL)
>> Creatinine: .9 (normal is .5 to 1.1 mg/dL)
>> BUN / Creatinine ratio: 23.7 (normal being 8 to 22.0 mg/dL)
>>
>> The Doc said that the Creatinine was way more important than
>> the BUN.
>>
>
>With a normal Creatinine, BUN is more an indication of dehydration than
>anything else. Drinking a lot of water the day before your next lab test
>might bring it down.

really.....I didn;t know. Thanks! I recall that I was supposed to
do this test fasting, whic htey didn;t tell me, and I had it around 2
pm, but hadn't eaten since breakfast.

>
>If you are taking a diuretic for HBP, your BUN would nearly always be high.

Nope, no diuretics, but I take lots of different herbs. One of them
could be a diuretic type - I should check.

"Sarah" <sarahpa1980@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:X92dnXkPJsVPVy_YnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@giganews.com:

>
> <dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsde5r2dpdp83mff3hiqnfbudiqq1mhr6n6@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <xyz@adelphia.netng>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to
>>>have information about kidney function.
>>
>>
>> Would, those be the people who don't control their bg's?
>>
>>
>
> They be the ones. Probably 60% of diabetics are not under good control
> by ADA standards. Probably 90% are not under good control by
> alt.support.diabetes standards.
>
> Sarah

Or simply those regardless of great control, who have lived with it long
enough. Kidneys work harder in a Diabetic (particularly a Type-I because
they're always trying to maintain proper levels of things that are no
longer being regulated. They essentially wear out.

Mine survived 44 years of Type-I Diabetes. Sadly for me I'm a 45 year
IDDM. :-) I've been on dialysis for a year and am on the kidney
transplant list now.

Of course 45 years ago (I was 10) the fastest you could get your blood
glucose reading was about 24 hours, and that only if you were in the
hospital at the time. We took one shot of NPH and controlled the rest
with diet, exercise, and how we felt. The idea of "control" was in
reality, laughable. We just did the best we could. Of course, according
to a Diabetic mortality table I once saw, in that day the average
Diabetic survived 17 years post onset.

Today I wear a pump, test frequently, and my A1c's are in the low 6's.

Larry L [in Honolulu]
Type-I 45 years so far

dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com wrote:

> Would, those be the people who don't control their bg's?

There's also a genetic factor for developing diabetic nephropathy... with
the consequence that you have to be much more careful with your bg than
others withot that factor.


Anja

Jefferson wrote:

> The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the
> glomerular filtration rate -
> http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>
> Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your
> age, sex, and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be
> calculated. This illustrates another reason why someone should get
> copies of their lab reports.

For those understanding german I can recommend
http://www.zystenniere.de/gfr/Anwendungsbereich.htm, it gives a good summary
on when to use which method to calculate the GFR, because the accuracy of a
method differs with different levels of kidney function.


Anja

In alt.support.diabetes dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com wrote:
: >
: >With a normal Creatinine, BUN is more an indication of dehydration than
: >anything else. Drinking a lot of water the day before your next lab test
: >might bring it down.

: really.....I didn;t know. Thanks! I recall that I was supposed to
: do this test fasting, whic htey didn;t tell me, and I had it around 2
: pm, but hadn't eaten since breakfast.

: >
: >If you are taking a diuretic for HBP, your BUN would nearly always be high.

: Nope, no diuretics, but I take lots of different herbs. One of them
: could be a diuretic type - I should check.

My endo told me to drink a big glass of water in teh AM before getting the
blood test as dehydration can be a problem.

Wendy

In article <45b34ccd$0$30317$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net>, "Anja
Länge" <anja.laenge@gmx.de> wrote:

Jefferson wrote:

> The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the
> glomerular filtration rate -
> http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>
> Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your
> age, sex, and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be
> calculated. This illustrates another reason why someone should get
> copies of their lab reports.

For those understanding german I can recommend
http://www.zystenniere.de/gfr/Anwendungsbereich.htm, it gives a good summary
on when to use which method to calculate the GFR, because the accuracy of a
method differs with different levels of kidney function.


Anja

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is the BEST book that I have found related to this subject:

COPING WITH KIDNEY DISEASE--A 12 STEP TREATMENT PROGRAM TO
HELP YOU AVOID DIALYSIS
by Mackenzie Walser, M.D.

Doctor Walser discusses in his book all of the items on a blood test
that indicate kidney problems. I learned from the book that it's possible
to have major kidney problems even if your creatinine level is within
the reference range.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
news:ep0am7$n1b$5@reader2.panix.com...
>
> My endo told me to drink a big glass of water in teh AM before getting the
> blood test as dehydration can be a problem.
>

Being well hydrated also makes it much easier for them to get the blood.
And I have less trouble producing the urine sample they seem to ask me for a
couple of times a year.
bj
..

Sarah wrote:
> <dumb_fishie99@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsde5r2dpdp83mff3hiqnfbudiqq1mhr6n6@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <xyz@adelphia.netng>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
> >>information about kidney function.
> >
> >

(DF wrote)
> > Would, those be the people who don't control their bg's?

Not necessarily. Although good control is key to giving one the best
chance to avoid the terrible complications of diabetes it does not
guarantee that one will not get them. Diabetes is a very complicated
disease and getting it into our mindset that anyone who develops a
complication was in poor control would be unfair and inaccurate.

(Sarah wrote)
> They be the ones. Probably 60% of diabetics are not under good control by
> ADA standards. Probably 90% are not under good control by
> alt.support.diabetes standards.

Defining the "standards" in this newsgroup would be about as hard as
defining the term "low carb"...it differs according to the individual.
Many here tend to be much more proactive than the general diabetic
population, or at least that they are in tight control (it's impossible
to validate any claims made by anyone in here.) The ADA is more
realistic when suggesting goals the average diabetic can reach and must
do so because they are dealing with millions and millions of diabetics
versus the handful that post with any frequency in this newsgroup.
Despite some in here who try to mislead others, the ADA encourages all
diabetics to aim for as close to normal diabetic numbers as possible.
They also advise that one needs to work with their medical team to
determine their own specific needs.

Diabetes has become an epidemic and any percentage of people not under
good control is a tragedy. The ADA, a.s.d., AMA, and countless other
"groups" of people can preach all they want about what diabetics should
do...but it is up to the individual to actually do it.

Kurt

"Jefferson" <xyz@adelphia.netng> wrote in message
news:O7SdneM5EPN1Ly_YnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@adelphia.com ...
> About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
> information about kidney function.
>
> My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the first
> time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out what
> this meant at
> http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I went
> back and made these calculations for the times when I had creatinine
> measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6 years -
> http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...in/glance.html
>
> The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the glomerular
> filtration rate -
> http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>
> Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age, sex,
> and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated. This
> illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their lab
> reports.
>
> Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
> http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>
> National Kidney Foundation - http://www.kidney.org/
> Kidney Disease: Causes - http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>
> Frank

Find out if you *might* have silent chronic kidney disease now. Check each
statement that is true for you. If a statement is not true or you are not
sure, put a zero. Then add up all the points for a total.

Age:
I am between 50 and 59 years of age. if yes, score 2: ______
I am between 60 and 69 years of age. if yes, score 3: ______
I am 70 years old or older. if yes, score 4: ______
I am a woman. if yes, score 1: ______
I had/have anemia. if yes, score 1: ______
I have high blood pressure. if yes, score 1: ______
I am diabetic. if yes, score 1; ______
I have a history of heart attack or stroke. if yes, score 1: ______
I have a history of congestive heart failure or heart failure. if yes, score
1: ______
I have circulation disease in my legs. if yes, score 1: ______
I have protein in my urine. if yes, score 1: ______
Total ______

If you scored four or more points, you have a one in five chance of having
chronic kidney disease.

SOURCE: Weill Cornell Medical College

Sarah

On Jan 20, 7:55 pm, dumb_fishi...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <x...@adelphia.netng>
> wrote:
>
> >About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
> >information about kidney function.
>
> Would, those be the people who don't control their bg's?

I would bet that is the case. Something like, I did not take care of
myself, please fix me with a pill. I think I would rather act now and
save myself the problems later.

On Jan 21, 4:54 am, "Larry L [in Honolulu]" <l...@no-place.org> wrote:
> "Sarah" <sarahpa1...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:X92dnXkPJsVPVy_YnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > <dumb_fishi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >newsde5r2dpdp83mff3hiqnfbudiqq1mhr6n6@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <x...@adelphia.netng>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to
> >>>have information about kidney function.
>
> >> Would, those be the people who don't control their bg's?
>
> > They be the ones. Probably 60% of diabetics are not under good control
> > by ADA standards. Probably 90% are not under good control by
> > alt.support.diabetes standards.
>
> > Sarah
>
> Or simply those regardless of great control, who have lived with it long
> enough. Kidneys work harder in a Diabetic (particularly a Type-I because
> they're always trying to maintain proper levels of things that are no
> longer being regulated. They essentially wear out.
>
> Mine survived 44 years of Type-I Diabetes. Sadly for me I'm a 45 year
> IDDM. :-) I've been on dialysis for a year and am on the kidney
> transplant list now.
>
> Of course 45 years ago (I was 10) the fastest you could get your blood
> glucose reading was about 24 hours, and that only if you were in the
> hospital at the time. We took one shot of NPH and controlled the rest
> with diet, exercise, and how we felt. The idea of "control" was in
> reality, laughable. We just did the best we could. Of course, according
> to a Diabetic mortality table I once saw, in that day the average
> Diabetic survived 17 years post onset.
>
> Today I wear a pump, test frequently, and my A1c's are in the low 6's.
>
> Larry L [in Honolulu]
> Type-I 45 years so far- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, I was just diagnosed recently for diabetes type 2. I would
imagine my risk for kidney disease is increased two-fold because my
father just died of kidney failure 2 years ago. That worries me a
little. I am hoping that kidney disease or any other complication
waits for 45 years as in your case because I will then be 86. Good
luck to you.

On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:50:45 -0800, "Sarah"
<sarahpa1980@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Jefferson" <xyz@adelphia.netng> wrote in message
>news:O7SdneM5EPN1Ly_YnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@adelphia.co m...
>> About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
>> information about kidney function.
>>
>> My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the first
>> time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out what
>> this meant at
>> http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I went
>> back and made these calculations for the times when I had creatinine
>> measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6 years -
>> http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...in/glance.html
>>
>> The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the glomerular
>> filtration rate -
>> http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>>
>> Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age, sex,
>> and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated. This
>> illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their lab
>> reports.
>>
>> Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
>> http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>>
>> National Kidney Foundation - http://www.kidney.org/
>> Kidney Disease: Causes - http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>>
>> Frank
>
>Find out if you *might* have silent chronic kidney disease now. Check each
>statement that is true for you. If a statement is not true or you are not
>sure, put a zero. Then add up all the points for a total.
>
>Age:
>I am between 50 and 59 years of age. if yes, score 2: ______
>I am between 60 and 69 years of age. if yes, score 3: ______
>I am 70 years old or older. if yes, score 4: ______
>I am a woman. if yes, score 1: ______
>I had/have anemia. if yes, score 1: ______
>I have high blood pressure. if yes, score 1: ______
>I am diabetic. if yes, score 1; ______
>I have a history of heart attack or stroke. if yes, score 1: ______
>I have a history of congestive heart failure or heart failure. if yes, score
>1: ______
>I have circulation disease in my legs. if yes, score 1: ______
>I have protein in my urine. if yes, score 1: ______
>Total ______
>
>If you scored four or more points, you have a one in five chance of having
>chronic kidney disease.
>
>SOURCE: Weill Cornell Medical College
>
>Sarah
>

Simply by turning 60 and qualifying to appear on these ngs I
scored 4 and females in my position would be 5. Surely a bit
pessimistic on that table.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Epidaurus

"pebbleman" <pebbleman3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172876904.238297.8270@s48g2000cws.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Jan 21, 4:54 am, "Larry L [in Honolulu]" <l...@no-place.org> wrote:
>> "Sarah" <sarahpa1...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> innews:X92dnXkPJsVPVy_YnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > <dumb_fishi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >newsde5r2dpdp83mff3hiqnfbudiqq1mhr6n6@4ax.com.. .
>> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:24:17 -0500, Jefferson <x...@adelphia.netng>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>>About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to
>> >>>have information about kidney function.
>>
>> >> Would, those be the people who don't control their bg's?
>>
>> > They be the ones. Probably 60% of diabetics are not under good control
>> > by ADA standards. Probably 90% are not under good control by
>> > alt.support.diabetes standards.
>>
>> > Sarah
>>
>> Or simply those regardless of great control, who have lived with it long
>> enough. Kidneys work harder in a Diabetic (particularly a Type-I because
>> they're always trying to maintain proper levels of things that are no
>> longer being regulated. They essentially wear out.
>>
>> Mine survived 44 years of Type-I Diabetes. Sadly for me I'm a 45 year
>> IDDM. :-) I've been on dialysis for a year and am on the kidney
>> transplant list now.
>>
>> Of course 45 years ago (I was 10) the fastest you could get your blood
>> glucose reading was about 24 hours, and that only if you were in the
>> hospital at the time. We took one shot of NPH and controlled the rest
>> with diet, exercise, and how we felt. The idea of "control" was in
>> reality, laughable. We just did the best we could. Of course, according
>> to a Diabetic mortality table I once saw, in that day the average
>> Diabetic survived 17 years post onset.
>>
>> Today I wear a pump, test frequently, and my A1c's are in the low 6's.
>>
>> Larry L [in Honolulu]
>> Type-I 45 years so far- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Well, I was just diagnosed recently for diabetes type 2. I would
> imagine my risk for kidney disease is increased two-fold because my
> father just died of kidney failure 2 years ago. That worries me a
> little. I am hoping that kidney disease or any other complication
> waits for 45 years as in your case because I will then be 86. Good
> luck to you.



In receiving your diagnosis, you just got your best shot at avoiding kidney
disease. Knowledge is power.

--

Best Regards,

Evelyn Ruut

On Mar 2, 2:50 pm, "Sarah" <sarahpa1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Jefferson" <x...@adelphia.netng> wrote in message
>
> news:O7SdneM5EPN1Ly_YnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
>
>
> > About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
> > information about kidney function.
>
> > My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the first
> > time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out what
> > this meant at
> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I went
> > back and made these calculations for the times when I had creatinine
> > measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6 years -
> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...croalbumin/gla...
>
> > The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the glomerular
> > filtration rate -
> >http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>
> > Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age, sex,
> > and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated. This
> > illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their lab
> > reports.
>
> > Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>
> > National Kidney Foundation -http://www.kidney.org/
> > Kidney Disease: Causes -http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>
> > Frank
>
> Find out if you *might* have silent chronic kidney disease now. Check each
> statement that is true for you. If a statement is not true or you are not
> sure, put a zero. Then add up all the points for a total.
>
> Age:
> I am between 50 and 59 years of age. if yes, score 2: ______
> I am between 60 and 69 years of age. if yes, score 3: ______
> I am 70 years old or older. if yes, score 4: ______
> I am a woman. if yes, score 1: ______
> I had/have anemia. if yes, score 1: ______
> I have high blood pressure. if yes, score 1: ______
> I am diabetic. if yes, score 1; ______
> I have a history of heart attack or stroke. if yes, score 1: ______
> I have a history of congestive heart failure or heart failure. if yes, score
> 1: ______
> I have circulation disease in my legs. if yes, score 1: ______
> I have protein in my urine. if yes, score 1: ______
> Total ______
>
> If you scored four or more points, you have a one in five chance of having
> chronic kidney disease.
>
> SOURCE: Weill Cornell Medical College
>
> Sarah

I think this questionaire may be underestimating the risk of diabetes
as a contributor. Diabetes has only 1/4th the risk turning 70 does ?

<redronin@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1172881451.088732.36450@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com...
> On Mar 2, 2:50 pm, "Sarah" <sarahpa1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Jefferson" <x...@adelphia.netng> wrote in message
>>
>> news:O7SdneM5EPN1Ly_YnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to
>> > have
>> > information about kidney function.
>>
>> > My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the
>> > first
>> > time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out
>> > what
>> > this meant at
>> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I
>> >went
>> > back and made these calculations for the times when I had creatinine
>> > measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6 years -
>> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...croalbumin/gla...
>>
>> > The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the
>> > glomerular
>> > filtration rate -
>> >http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>>
>> > Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age,
>> > sex,
>> > and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated. This
>> > illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their lab
>> > reports.
>>
>> > Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
>> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>>
>> > National Kidney Foundation -http://www.kidney.org/
>> > Kidney Disease: Causes -http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>>
>> > Frank
>>
>> Find out if you *might* have silent chronic kidney disease now. Check
>> each
>> statement that is true for you. If a statement is not true or you are not
>> sure, put a zero. Then add up all the points for a total.
>>
>> Age:
>> I am between 50 and 59 years of age. if yes, score 2: ______
>> I am between 60 and 69 years of age. if yes, score 3: ______
>> I am 70 years old or older. if yes, score 4: ______
>> I am a woman. if yes, score 1: ______
>> I had/have anemia. if yes, score 1: ______
>> I have high blood pressure. if yes, score 1: ______
>> I am diabetic. if yes, score 1; ______
>> I have a history of heart attack or stroke. if yes, score 1: ______
>> I have a history of congestive heart failure or heart failure. if yes,
>> score
>> 1: ______
>> I have circulation disease in my legs. if yes, score 1: ______
>> I have protein in my urine. if yes, score 1: ______
>> Total ______
>>
>> If you scored four or more points, you have a one in five chance of
>> having
>> chronic kidney disease.
>>
>> SOURCE: Weill Cornell Medical College
>>
>> Sarah
>
> I think this questionaire may be underestimating the risk of diabetes
> as a contributor. Diabetes has only 1/4th the risk turning 70 does ?
>

The way I read it, diabetes has the same risk increase as turning 70, 1 more
point.

My score is 6 so if I live long enough kidney disease may be in my future.

Anon

"Anon" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
news:asCdna2yjfo8XHXYnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>
> <redronin@juno.com> wrote in message
> news:1172881451.088732.36450@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com...
>> On Mar 2, 2:50 pm, "Sarah" <sarahpa1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> "Jefferson" <x...@adelphia.netng> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:O7SdneM5EPN1Ly_YnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to
>>> > have
>>> > information about kidney function.
>>>
>>> > My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the
>>> > first
>>> > time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out
>>> > what
>>> > this meant at
>>> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I
>>> >went
>>> > back and made these calculations for the times when I had creatinine
>>> > measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6 years -
>>> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...croalbumin/gla...
>>>
>>> > The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the
>>> > glomerular
>>> > filtration rate -
>>> >http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>>>
>>> > Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age,
>>> > sex,
>>> > and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated. This
>>> > illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their lab
>>> > reports.
>>>
>>> > Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
>>> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>>>
>>> > National Kidney Foundation -http://www.kidney.org/
>>> > Kidney Disease: Causes -http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>>>
>>> > Frank
>>>
>>> Find out if you *might* have silent chronic kidney disease now. Check
>>> each
>>> statement that is true for you. If a statement is not true or you are
>>> not
>>> sure, put a zero. Then add up all the points for a total.
>>>
>>> Age:
>>> I am between 50 and 59 years of age. if yes, score 2: ______
>>> I am between 60 and 69 years of age. if yes, score 3: ______
>>> I am 70 years old or older. if yes, score 4: ______
>>> I am a woman. if yes, score 1: ______
>>> I had/have anemia. if yes, score 1: ______
>>> I have high blood pressure. if yes, score 1: ______
>>> I am diabetic. if yes, score 1; ______
>>> I have a history of heart attack or stroke. if yes, score 1: ______
>>> I have a history of congestive heart failure or heart failure. if yes,
>>> score
>>> 1: ______
>>> I have circulation disease in my legs. if yes, score 1: ______
>>> I have protein in my urine. if yes, score 1: ______
>>> Total ______
>>>
>>> If you scored four or more points, you have a one in five chance of
>>> having
>>> chronic kidney disease.
>>>
>>> SOURCE: Weill Cornell Medical College
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>
>> I think this questionaire may be underestimating the risk of diabetes
>> as a contributor. Diabetes has only 1/4th the risk turning 70 does ?
>>
>
> The way I read it, diabetes has the same risk increase as turning 70, 1
> more point.
>
> My score is 6 so if I live long enough kidney disease may be in my future.
>
> Anon


I scored 7. Scary.

--

Best Regards,

Evelyn Ruut

>
>

"Evelyn Ruut" <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:45e8c4ab$0$18844$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
> "Anon" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:asCdna2yjfo8XHXYnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>
>> <redronin@juno.com> wrote in message
>> news:1172881451.088732.36450@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com...
>>> On Mar 2, 2:50 pm, "Sarah" <sarahpa1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> "Jefferson" <x...@adelphia.netng> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:O7SdneM5EPN1Ly_YnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to
>>>> > have
>>>> > information about kidney function.
>>>>
>>>> > My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the
>>>> > first
>>>> > time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out
>>>> > what
>>>> > this meant at
>>>> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I
>>>> >went
>>>> > back and made these calculations for the times when I had creatinine
>>>> > measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6 years -
>>>> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...croalbumin/gla...
>>>>
>>>> > The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the
>>>> > glomerular
>>>> > filtration rate -
>>>> >http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>>>>
>>>> > Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age,
>>>> > sex,
>>>> > and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated.
>>>> > This
>>>> > illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their lab
>>>> > reports.
>>>>
>>>> > Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
>>>> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>>>>
>>>> > National Kidney Foundation -http://www.kidney.org/
>>>> > Kidney Disease:
>>>> > Causes -http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>>>>
>>>> > Frank
>>>>
>>>> Find out if you *might* have silent chronic kidney disease now. Check
>>>> each
>>>> statement that is true for you. If a statement is not true or you are
>>>> not
>>>> sure, put a zero. Then add up all the points for a total.
>>>>
>>>> Age:
>>>> I am between 50 and 59 years of age. if yes, score 2: ______
>>>> I am between 60 and 69 years of age. if yes, score 3: ______
>>>> I am 70 years old or older. if yes, score 4: ______
>>>> I am a woman. if yes, score 1: ______
>>>> I had/have anemia. if yes, score 1: ______
>>>> I have high blood pressure. if yes, score 1: ______
>>>> I am diabetic. if yes, score 1; ______
>>>> I have a history of heart attack or stroke. if yes, score 1: ______
>>>> I have a history of congestive heart failure or heart failure. if yes,
>>>> score
>>>> 1: ______
>>>> I have circulation disease in my legs. if yes, score 1: ______
>>>> I have protein in my urine. if yes, score 1: ______
>>>> Total ______
>>>>
>>>> If you scored four or more points, you have a one in five chance of
>>>> having
>>>> chronic kidney disease.
>>>>
>>>> SOURCE: Weill Cornell Medical College
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>
>>> I think this questionaire may be underestimating the risk of diabetes
>>> as a contributor. Diabetes has only 1/4th the risk turning 70 does ?
>>>
>>
>> The way I read it, diabetes has the same risk increase as turning 70, 1
>> more point.
>>
>> My score is 6 so if I live long enough kidney disease may be in my
>> future.
>>
>> Anon
>
>
> I scored 7. Scary.
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Evelyn Ruut
>

If I was a female I would be a 7 too. Scary.

Anon

On Mar 2, 3:43 pm, Alan S <loralgtweightandca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:50:45 -0800, "Sarah"
>
>
>
> <sarahpa1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >"Jefferson" <x...@adelphia.netng> wrote in message
> >news:O7SdneM5EPN1Ly_YnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@adelphia.co m...
> >> About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to have
> >> information about kidney function.
>
> >> My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the first
> >> time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out what
> >> this meant at
> >>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I went
> >> back and madethesecalculations for the times when I had creatinine
> >> measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6 years -
> >>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...croalbumin/gla...
>
> >> The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the glomerular
> >> filtration rate -
> >>http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>
> >> Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age, sex,
> >> and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated. This
> >> illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their lab
> >> reports.
>
> >> Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
> >>http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>
> >> National Kidney Foundation -http://www.kidney.org/
> >> Kidney Disease: Causes -http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>
> >> Frank
>
> >Find out if you *might* have silent chronic kidney disease now. Check each
> >statement that is true for you. If a statement is not true or you are not
> >sure, put a zero. Then add up all the points for a total.
>
> >Age:
> >I am between 50 and 59 years of age. if yes, score 2: ______
> >I am between 60 and 69 years of age. if yes, score 3: ______
> >I am 70 years old or older. if yes, score 4: ______
> >I am a woman. if yes, score 1: ______
> >I had/have anemia. if yes, score 1: ______
> >I have high blood pressure. if yes, score 1: ______
> >I am diabetic. if yes, score 1; ______
> >I have a history of heart attack or stroke. if yes, score 1: ______
> >I have a history of congestive heart failure or heart failure. if yes, score
> >1: ______
> >I have circulation disease in my legs. if yes, score 1: ______
> >I have protein in my urine. if yes, score 1: ______
> >Total ______
>
> >If you scored four or more points, you have a one in five chance of having
> >chronic kidney disease.
>
> >SOURCE: Weill Cornell Medical College
>
> >Sarah
>
> Simply by turning 60 andqualifyingtoappearonthesengsI
> scored 4 and females in my position would be 5. Surely a bit
> pessimistic on that table.

Couldn't be that you are a bit too optimistic about yourself ?
Don't forget Andy Grove's words: only the paranoid survive!

Bob


>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

You really should add usenet as an exception to the measured, middle-
of-the-road character your signature is concocted to convey.
Dishonesty is never a good thing, even in moderation.

On Mar 2, 7:31 pm, "Anon" <a...@anon.com> wrote:
> <redro...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172881451.088732.36450@64g2000cwx.googlegrou ps.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 2, 2:50 pm, "Sarah" <sarahpa1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "Jefferson" <x...@adelphia.netng> wrote in message
>
> >>news:O7SdneM5EPN1Ly_YnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@adelphia.c om...
>
> >> > About 40% of kidney transplants occur in diabetics so it is good to
> >> > have
> >> > information about kidney function.
>
> >> > My most recent lab report gave a measurement of eGFR. This was the
> >> > first
> >> > time I had had a lab report with this measurement. After finding out
> >> > what
> >> > this meant at
> >> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders.../gfr/test.html, I
> >> >went
> >> > back and made these calculations for the times when I had creatinine
> >> > measured. I have had 3 urine microalbumin test in the last 6 years -
> >> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...croalbumin/gla...
>
> >> > The National Kidney Foundation has a model for estimating the
> >> > glomerular
> >> > filtration rate -
> >> >http://www.kidney.org/professionals/...calculator.cfm.
>
> >> > Using the creatinine measurement from your lab reports plus your age,
> >> > sex,
> >> > and race, estimated glomerular filtration rate can be calculated. This
> >> > illustrates another reason why someone should get copies of their lab
> >> > reports.
>
> >> > Kidney and Urinary Tract Function, Disorders, and Diseases -
> >> >http://www.labtestsonline.org/unders...ns/kidney.html
>
> >> > National Kidney Foundation -http://www.kidney.org/
> >> > Kidney Disease: Causes -http://www.kidney.org/atoz/atozItem.cfm?id=83.
>
> >> > Frank
>
> >> Find out if you *might* have silent chronic kidney disease now. Check
> >> each
> >> statement that is true for you. If a statement is not true or you are not
> >> sure, put a zero. Then add up all the points for a total.
>
> >> Age:
> >> I am between 50 and 59 years of age. if yes, score 2: ______
> >> I am between 60 and 69 years of age. if yes, score 3: ______
> >> I am 70 years old or older. if yes, score 4: ______
> >> I am a woman. if yes, score 1: ______
> >> I had/have anemia. if yes, score 1: ______
> >> I have high blood pressure. if yes, score 1: ______
> >> I am diabetic. if yes, score 1; ______
> >> I have a history of heart attack or stroke. if yes, score 1: ______
> >> I have a history of congestive heart failure or heart failure. if yes,
> >> score
> >> 1: ______
> >> I have circulation disease in my legs. if yes, score 1: ______
> >> I have protein in my urine. if yes, score 1: ______
> >> Total ______
>
> >> If you scored four or more points, you have a one in five chance of
> >> having
> >> chronic kidney disease.
>
> >> SOURCE: Weill Cornell Medical College
>
> >> Sarah
>
> > I think this questionaire may be underestimating the risk of diabetes
> > as a contributor. Diabetes has only 1/4th the risk turning 70 does ?
>
> The way I read it, diabetes has the same risk increase as turning 70, 1 more
> point.

> My score is 6 so if I live long enough kidney disease may be in my future.

One hopes not, especially if you can control BP and BGs.

On 2 Mar 2007 18:43:23 -0800, anothascreename@aol.com wrote:

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