Laid Up-

Hello friends,


For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.

After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....

In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....

Still kicking,

Will, T2

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Will, T2 wrote:
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>


OH, crap, Will, that sounds awful!

Feel better soon!

Susan

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:40:00 -0400, "Will, T2"
<wmmckee@cox.net> wrote:

>Hello friends,
>
>
>For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
>last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
>Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
>bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
>After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
>severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
>low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
>diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
>different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
>produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
>In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
>Still kicking,
>
>Will, T2

I was about to ask.

So sorry to hear that Will. This diet thing can be such a
pain, literally, when our systems stop working to the design
standard. My friend with the gallstones would understand, on
a totally fat-free diet for the moment or severe pain is
instant.

Best wishes on a speedy recovery and a successful search for
a better way of eating that suits you.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com

Will, T2 wrote in message ...
>Hello friends,
>
>
>For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for
the
>last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
>Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
>bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
>After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
>severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly,
relatively
>low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
>diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
>different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
>produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
>In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
>Still kicking,
>
>Will, T2

Get well soon Will. I was wondering where you were, and was hoping it
was something wonderful and exciting that was keeping you away. Sorry,
it's not. Take care.

Cheri

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Hello friends,
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,
>
> Will, T2

Truly awful, Will. I hope it gets better soon & you can find a gout *&*
diabetes friendly diet. That you can stand. And that the veggies you have to
avoid aren't the ones you like most.
bj

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:40:00 -0400, "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net>
wrote:

>Hello friends,
>
>
>For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
>last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
>Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
>bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
>After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
>severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
>low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
>diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
>different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
>produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
>In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
>Still kicking,
>
>Will, T2

Damn!

I first had gout when I was in my early twenties. At the time my
doctor could hardly believe it since I only weighed about 125 pounds
at the time. He told me what foods to avoid and gave me medication. I
wasn't laid up like you but it was still pretty darned miserable. I
went about ten years or so before having another episode. The biggest
problem then was that as a letter carrier I was walking 96 blocks five
days a week. I managed to do it, but it wasn't fun. I had to keep
working since I hadn't been with the post office long enough to build
up much sick leave.

I feel for you friend. I hope that you now have it under control and
will be able to keep it that way.

Take care and be well.
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
END THE WAR NOW.
BRING THEM HOME.

Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of September 14, 2007 is 3,781.
United Kingdom = 169 Other = 129.

How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

As of September, 17 2007 it has been 1601 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news2o0f3lhhs4t2a96csppecp0f04c8bjv89@4ax.com...
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,


Sorry to hear that. My FIL had gout and it was very painful for him.

Sorry to hear that Will From personal experience a change in diet did
nothing to alleviate it for me. What did alleviate it was dropping the
"fluid" pill that was designed as a BP med (can't remember the name) and
going on to a real BP med. It was common to treat BP first with that kind of
water drug.

You might find otherwise but I really did not have any relief from dropping
the purine-containing foods.

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news2o0f3lhhs4t2a96csppecp0f04c8bjv89@4ax.com...
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,
>
> Will, T2

I missed you Will. Good to see you are up to posting again. I wish you a
speedy recovery.

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news2o0f3lhhs4t2a96csppecp0f04c8bjv89@4ax.com...
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,
>
> Will, T2


A low carb diet, below 130 grams per day, can be a double whammy to a person
susceptible to gout.

First, a low carb diet leads to the buildup of ketones in the blood.
Ketosis can raise uric acid levels. Second, many foods that are eaten to
replace the energy of carbohydrates are rich in purines (meat, poultry,
seafood, nuts, eggs, some vegetables) and are later broken down into uric
acid in the body.
Health experts express concern over the long-term safety of low carb diets
and believe they increase the risk of diseases such as heart disease,
cancer, renal disease, gout and osteoporosis.

Sarah

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news2o0f3lhhs4t2a96csppecp0f04c8bjv89@4ax.com...
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,
>
> Will, T2
>
Well, that sucks! Let's hope it goes away fast. Did some googling..... seems
that you can eat this for that...... but it can cause the other.... so, eat
that for the other but, of course, it's bad for this. Luckily, you're safe
with fish, but it can lend to the causes of Gout.... not to worry, though,
there are plenty of things you can eat to help prevent Gout.... but, they
cause artery disease... I guess you're seeing that you can't win.

Get well quick.

John

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news2o0f3lhhs4t2a96csppecp0f04c8bjv89@4ax.com...
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,
>
> Will, T2

Thinking of you, Will! get better soon!

Henry

Ouch will!
I detest veggies but force myself to find ways to use em like right now im
making stew with lots of gross veggies but in stew with the meat i like em.
If i lived by ya id bring you some..but since i cant ill send my wishes for
a VERY speedy recovery!

KROM

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news2o0f3lhhs4t2a96csppecp0f04c8bjv89@4ax.com...
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,
>
> Will, T2

Will I am sorry to hear yu are laid up with the gout. I understand it
is very painful.

i always thought gout was caused by eating too much fat and rich foods.
I didnt no it was caused by low carb unless you are eating higher fat
and richer foods .

Get well sooner

Loretta

<<After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....>>

well that sux!

will, what are "veggies that produce more purines in the
digestive/metabolic process..."?

feel better soon!

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news2o0f3lhhs4t2a96csppecp0f04c8bjv89@4ax.com...
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,
>
> Will, T2

Gout is serious, serious pain ... hope you get well soon, Will

Paul

Will, T2 <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote:
: Hello friends,


: For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
: last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
: Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
: bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.

: After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
: severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
: low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
: diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
: different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
: produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....

: In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....

: Still kicking,

: Will, T2

Sorry to hear this Will. When my son was suspected to be haivng gout the
diet he was put on was kind of the diet from Hell, as he had to stay off
almost all lower carb meats, fish and vegetables. no salmon, red meats,
etc. I hope you can find some kind of balance to control both. Have you
been put on a med for th condition? That may help adn let you eat a bit
more diabetic friendly foods.

Wendy

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:40:00 -0400, "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net>
wrote:

>Hello friends,
>
>
>For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
>last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
>Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
>bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.

Owowowow! Poor you! I do hope you find a way of eating that controls
both the gout and the diabetes.

Nicky
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On 9/18/07 10:42 PM, in article _E2Ii.2444$oc2.1151@trnddc04,
"johnniemccoy@" <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>
> "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
> news2o0f3lhhs4t2a96csppecp0f04c8bjv89@4ax.com...
>> Hello friends,
>>
>>
>> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
>> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
>> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
>> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>>
>> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
>> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
>> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
>> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
>> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
>> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>>
>> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>>
>> Still kicking,
>>
>> Will, T2
>>
> Well, that sucks! Let's hope it goes away fast. Did some googling..... seems
> that you can eat this for that...... but it can cause the other.... so, eat
> that for the other but, of course, it's bad for this. Luckily, you're safe
> with fish, but it can lend to the causes of Gout.... not to worry, though,
> there are plenty of things you can eat to help prevent Gout.... but, they
> cause artery disease... I guess you're seeing that you can't win.
>
> Get well quick.
>
> John
>
>
>
You know I hate to say this, but this might be one of those rare times when
a dietician might be able to help. I know you have a problem. My husband has
gout. His doctor put him on colchicine, a drug you don't want to take for
any longer than absolutely necessary to knock down the uric acid. He was
also put on allopurinol at the same time and it is now the maintenance drug
of choice. He doctor says that one is OK for long term use. Because of this
regimen he is able to eat a normal diet. Every so often he has a blood test
to see that there are problems developing. He has had gout for 7 years.

Good luck, Will.

Martha T2 Canada

Will, T2 wrote:
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,
>
> Will, T2
Not having memorized the dates, I was assuming you were traveling with
your son. What a rotten complication, and so very painful. 'A different
balance' may be difficult to achieve. Please report your progress re
medication, diet etc. Wishing you well always,
Lorna

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news2o0f3lhhs4t2a96csppecp0f04c8bjv89@4ax.com...
> Hello friends,
>
>
> For those of you who may have been wondering where I have been for the
> last week, or so, I have been laid up... Totally incapacitated.
> Completely unable to walk. I have spent most of the last 5 days in
> bed, and need a wheelchair just to go 50 ft.
>
> After several hours in the docs office yesterday, the official Dx was
> severe gout, related in major part to my diabetic friendly, relatively
> low carb diet. Interestingly my doctor still supports the lower carb
> diet for me, as a T2, but now the focus has to be upon finding a
> different balance, especially taking into account the veggies that
> produce more purines in the digestive/metabolic process....
>
> In the mantime, this gout thing has been complete agony....
>
> Still kicking,
>
> Will, T2

Hi Will,
I am very sorry to hear that you are in such pain:-(

Take Care. Sincerely wishing you a speedy resolution to your suffering .
Best Wishes,
Craig, Type 2
NSW, Australia