Low systolic BP

This is kind of weird, and maybe OT. At times I frequently test my BP at
home and it seems to run low. Especially the systolic. At the Drs. office
it's usually right about normal or sometimes slightly high. Never the low
numbers I am getting at home. I am on Lisinopril and my Dr. upped my dose
some time back due to protein in my urine. Am also on a diuretic for
swelling in my feet and ankles. I'd been on a higher dose but he had to cut
that back because it was dropping my BP too much.

I've had these weird dizzy spells off and on. My first thought was always
hypo. Well, occasionally it was. But usually not. So I'd test my BP and I
was getting these weird numbers like 90/70. The systolic seemed abnormally
low but the diastolic was always more normal. Or so it seemed.

I had no clue why I was getting these numbers but I may have figured it out.

Daughter and I got takeout from Taco Time the other day. I ordered 4 tacos
and asked for no cheese on them, plus some other things for my husband and
her. As we were waiting, she freaked and said they were putting cheese on
the tacos. And sure enough they were. I called this to their attention and
they redid the tacos, but we wound up with only 3 of them. She took one
taco plus some other things I'd ordered for her and I took the other two.
Both had little bits of cheese on them. I suppose the worker had some
cheese stuck on her gloves or something but... Gah! I picked off one
tomato slice and all of the lettuce that looked like it had cheese mixed in
and told daughter to be careful with hers as she's allergic to cheese too.

Well, about 2 hours after I ate the tacos I felt unwell. Got all dizzy and
weak. Had this strange sort of numb sensation around my eyes and nose.
Then sinus pain. Then a stuffy/runny nose, watery ears and eyes hurt badly.
Checked BG. It was 121. Checked BP. It was 91/71. Wasn't sure if the
cheese was the culprit or not, but couldn't really see how it could cause
low BP. The other symptoms, yes. But that?

Then it happened again tonight. This time it was chili. Didn't see the
gooey string of cheese until after I'd eaten a few bites. Thought I picked
out the stray shreds but may have inadvertently eaten some that had melted
in.

Sure enough, about 2 hours after eating, got the exact same symptoms. This
time my BG was high. 170something or other. But that didn't surprise me
given that it was high this morning when I woke up. I suspect it's hormonal
but don't know for sure. Anyway... Checked BP and it was 90/70!

Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be low,
both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic that
goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened. Maybe I
ingested something I was allergic to then?

I sure will be glad when school is out and dance is over for the year so I
can make my own food and not have to rely so much on restaurants and
takeout. Gah! We're just on the go all the time lately.

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:yKLci.1392$Sm5.1083@trndny04...
> This is kind of weird, and maybe OT. At times I frequently test my BP at
> home and it seems to run low. Especially the systolic. At the Drs.
> office it's usually right about normal or sometimes slightly high. Never
> the low numbers I am getting at home. I am on Lisinopril and my Dr. upped
> my dose some time back due to protein in my urine. Am also on a diuretic
> for swelling in my feet and ankles. I'd been on a higher dose but he had
> to cut that back because it was dropping my BP too much.
>
> I've had these weird dizzy spells off and on. My first thought was always
> hypo. Well, occasionally it was. But usually not. So I'd test my BP and
> I was getting these weird numbers like 90/70. The systolic seemed
> abnormally low but the diastolic was always more normal. Or so it seemed.
>
> I had no clue why I was getting these numbers but I may have figured it
> out.
>
> Daughter and I got takeout from Taco Time the other day. I ordered 4
> tacos and asked for no cheese on them, plus some other things for my
> husband and her. As we were waiting, she freaked and said they were
> putting cheese on the tacos. And sure enough they were. I called this to
> their attention and they redid the tacos, but we wound up with only 3 of
> them. She took one taco plus some other things I'd ordered for her and I
> took the other two. Both had little bits of cheese on them. I suppose the
> worker had some cheese stuck on her gloves or something but... Gah! I
> picked off one tomato slice and all of the lettuce that looked like it had
> cheese mixed in and told daughter to be careful with hers as she's
> allergic to cheese too.
>
> Well, about 2 hours after I ate the tacos I felt unwell. Got all dizzy
> and weak. Had this strange sort of numb sensation around my eyes and
> nose. Then sinus pain. Then a stuffy/runny nose, watery ears and eyes
> hurt badly. Checked BG. It was 121. Checked BP. It was 91/71. Wasn't
> sure if the cheese was the culprit or not, but couldn't really see how it
> could cause low BP. The other symptoms, yes. But that?
>
> Then it happened again tonight. This time it was chili. Didn't see the
> gooey string of cheese until after I'd eaten a few bites. Thought I
> picked out the stray shreds but may have inadvertently eaten some that had
> melted in.
>
> Sure enough, about 2 hours after eating, got the exact same symptoms.
> This time my BG was high. 170something or other. But that didn't
> surprise me given that it was high this morning when I woke up. I suspect
> it's hormonal but don't know for sure. Anyway... Checked BP and it was
> 90/70!
>
> Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be
> low, both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic
> that goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened.
> Maybe I ingested something I was allergic to then?
>
> I sure will be glad when school is out and dance is over for the year so I
> can make my own food and not have to rely so much on restaurants and
> takeout. Gah! We're just on the go all the time lately.
>
>
>

I have also had strange numbers from Lisinopril.
My Dr. only says that it might be from dehydration.
I do not think so but that is all he would say.
The nurse seemed to think that some of the home monitors for BP were not
accurate, but she had me test just after she did my BP and it came out close
to the same.

"Davybear" <Davybear@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:YoednZGRMJ2qEO7bnZ2dnUVZ_qKqnZ2d@adelphia.com ...

> I have also had strange numbers from Lisinopril.
> My Dr. only says that it might be from dehydration.
> I do not think so but that is all he would say.
> The nurse seemed to think that some of the home monitors for BP were not
> accurate, but she had me test just after she did my BP and it came out
> close to the same.

This is the 2nd BP monitor I've had. I think both are pretty accurate. I
am clearly having dizzy spells so something is going on. And I don't think
it's dehydration. Just seems kind of odd that twice when I ate something I
was allergic to I had a drop in my systolic pressure.

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:f6Mci.2027$Sm5.706@trndny04...
>
> "Davybear" <Davybear@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:YoednZGRMJ2qEO7bnZ2dnUVZ_qKqnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
>> I have also had strange numbers from Lisinopril.
>> My Dr. only says that it might be from dehydration.
>> I do not think so but that is all he would say.
>> The nurse seemed to think that some of the home monitors for BP were not
>> accurate, but she had me test just after she did my BP and it came out
>> close to the same.
>
> This is the 2nd BP monitor I've had. I think both are pretty accurate. I
> am clearly having dizzy spells so something is going on. And I don't
> think it's dehydration. Just seems kind of odd that twice when I ate
> something I was allergic to I had a drop in my systolic pressure.
>

I bet it is not from an allergy but from the Lisinopril itself.
I know of two other people that have had bad BP readings after taking that
drug.

"Davybear" <Davybear@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:fu-dnRh5nYtLDO7bnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@adelphia.com...

> I bet it is not from an allergy but from the Lisinopril itself.
> I know of two other people that have had bad BP readings after taking that
> drug.

I don't think so. I've been taking it for years without this problem. I
learned of the food allergies about a year and a half ago. Since
eliminating the allergens from my diet, my reactions to these foods have
become more pronounced and sometimes more immediate.

But I guess my question was mainly why the systolic part would go so low.
It's not just low BP. If that were the case you'd think the diastolic would
go low too. And it doesn't.

I take that as well and sometimes get a wierd dizzy feeling..dr said it was
to clear the ketons from pre diag.
So i wouldnt doubt its effecting her BP as isnt also used to treat other
things as well if i recall so id look into if i were her for sure.
Also i believe if the body is sick or stressed it plays havok on BG numbers
so a sever allergic reaction to cheese could easily do it...and maybe the
lisinpril and the alergies makes a bad combo?

KROM

"Davybear" <Davybear@adelphia.net> wrote
> I have also had strange numbers from Lisinopril.
> My Dr. only says that it might be from dehydration.
> I do not think so but that is all he would say.
> The nurse seemed to think that some of the home monitors for BP were not
> accurate, but she had me test just after she did my BP and it came out
> close to the same.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:50:06 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP?

90/70 is what I usually have, and have had for all my life.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.5% BMI 25

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:yKLci.1392$Sm5.1083@trndny04...
> This is kind of weird, and maybe OT. At times I frequently test my BP at
> home and it seems to run low. Especially the systolic. At the Drs.
> office it's usually right about normal or sometimes slightly high. Never
> the low numbers I am getting at home. I am on Lisinopril and my Dr. upped
> my dose some time back due to protein in my urine. Am also on a diuretic
> for swelling in my feet and ankles. I'd been on a higher dose but he had
> to cut that back because it was dropping my BP too much.
>
> I've had these weird dizzy spells off and on. My first thought was always
> hypo. Well, occasionally it was. But usually not. So I'd test my BP and
> I was getting these weird numbers like 90/70. The systolic seemed
> abnormally low but the diastolic was always more normal. Or so it seemed.
>
> I had no clue why I was getting these numbers but I may have figured it
> out.
>
> Daughter and I got takeout from Taco Time the other day. I ordered 4
> tacos and asked for no cheese on them, plus some other things for my
> husband and her. As we were waiting, she freaked and said they were
> putting cheese on the tacos. And sure enough they were. I called this to
> their attention and they redid the tacos, but we wound up with only 3 of
> them. She took one taco plus some other things I'd ordered for her and I
> took the other two. Both had little bits of cheese on them. I suppose the
> worker had some cheese stuck on her gloves or something but... Gah! I
> picked off one tomato slice and all of the lettuce that looked like it had
> cheese mixed in and told daughter to be careful with hers as she's
> allergic to cheese too.
>
> Well, about 2 hours after I ate the tacos I felt unwell. Got all dizzy
> and weak. Had this strange sort of numb sensation around my eyes and
> nose. Then sinus pain. Then a stuffy/runny nose, watery ears and eyes
> hurt badly. Checked BG. It was 121. Checked BP. It was 91/71. Wasn't
> sure if the cheese was the culprit or not, but couldn't really see how it
> could cause low BP. The other symptoms, yes. But that?
>
> Then it happened again tonight. This time it was chili. Didn't see the
> gooey string of cheese until after I'd eaten a few bites. Thought I
> picked out the stray shreds but may have inadvertently eaten some that had
> melted in.
>
> Sure enough, about 2 hours after eating, got the exact same symptoms.
> This time my BG was high. 170something or other. But that didn't
> surprise me given that it was high this morning when I woke up. I suspect
> it's hormonal but don't know for sure. Anyway... Checked BP and it was
> 90/70!
>
> Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be
> low, both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic
> that goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened.
> Maybe I ingested something I was allergic to then?
>
> I sure will be glad when school is out and dance is over for the year so I
> can make my own food and not have to rely so much on restaurants and
> takeout. Gah! We're just on the go all the time lately.
>
>
>

I haven't had those reactions (and fortunately don't have the allergies you
have), but I am puzzled as to why these would be considered to be abnormal
BP readings. Those readings do not appear (to me) to be abnormally low. In
fact, they are what many people *hope* for.

MaryL

x-no-archive: yes

Julie Bove wrote:

> Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be low,
> both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic that
> goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened. Maybe I
> ingested something I was allergic to then?

I had those types of bp numbers constantly last year while in an adrenal
crisis. It's common with Cushing's syndrome, where cortisol levels vary
a lot.

Susan

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:yKLci.1392$Sm5.1083@trndny04...
> This is kind of weird, and maybe OT. At times I frequently test my BP at
> home and it seems to run low. Especially the systolic. At the Drs.
> office it's usually right about normal or sometimes slightly high. Never
> the low numbers I am getting at home. I am on Lisinopril and my Dr. upped
> my dose some time back due to protein in my urine. Am also on a diuretic
> for swelling in my feet and ankles. I'd been on a higher dose but he had
> to cut that back because it was dropping my BP too much.
>
> I've had these weird dizzy spells off and on. My first thought was always
> hypo. Well, occasionally it was. But usually not. So I'd test my BP and
> I was getting these weird numbers like 90/70. The systolic seemed
> abnormally low but the diastolic was always more normal. Or so it seemed.
>
> I had no clue why I was getting these numbers but I may have figured it
> out.
>
> Daughter and I got takeout from Taco Time the other day. I ordered 4
> tacos and asked for no cheese on them, plus some other things for my
> husband and her. As we were waiting, she freaked and said they were
> putting cheese on the tacos. And sure enough they were. I called this to
> their attention and they redid the tacos, but we wound up with only 3 of
> them. She took one taco plus some other things I'd ordered for her and I
> took the other two. Both had little bits of cheese on them. I suppose the
> worker had some cheese stuck on her gloves or something but... Gah! I
> picked off one tomato slice and all of the lettuce that looked like it had
> cheese mixed in and told daughter to be careful with hers as she's
> allergic to cheese too.
>
> Well, about 2 hours after I ate the tacos I felt unwell. Got all dizzy
> and weak. Had this strange sort of numb sensation around my eyes and
> nose. Then sinus pain. Then a stuffy/runny nose, watery ears and eyes
> hurt badly. Checked BG. It was 121. Checked BP. It was 91/71. Wasn't
> sure if the cheese was the culprit or not, but couldn't really see how it
> could cause low BP. The other symptoms, yes. But that?
>
> Then it happened again tonight. This time it was chili. Didn't see the
> gooey string of cheese until after I'd eaten a few bites. Thought I
> picked out the stray shreds but may have inadvertently eaten some that had
> melted in.
>
> Sure enough, about 2 hours after eating, got the exact same symptoms.
> This time my BG was high. 170something or other. But that didn't
> surprise me given that it was high this morning when I woke up. I suspect
> it's hormonal but don't know for sure. Anyway... Checked BP and it was
> 90/70!
>
> Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be
> low, both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic
> that goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened.
> Maybe I ingested something I was allergic to then?
>
> I sure will be glad when school is out and dance is over for the year so I
> can make my own food and not have to rely so much on restaurants and
> takeout. Gah! We're just on the go all the time lately.

90/70 isn't too low for me according to my cardiologist.

However, when my BP does drop much lower than that, I too start to feel weak
and dizzy.

Again, according to the cardiologist, when that happens I am to drink 8 or
10 oz. of room temperature water and lay down for about fifteen or twenty
minutes with my feet elevated over my head on a pillow.

That always makes me feel right again.

My blood pressure ranges from 90/60 to 100/70. My doctor says it is
perfect pressure. It is the one thing I dont take a pill for.

loretta

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:yKLci.1392$Sm5.1083@trndny04...
> This is kind of weird, and maybe OT. At times I frequently test my BP at
> home and it seems to run low. Especially the systolic. At the Drs.
office
> it's usually right about normal or sometimes slightly high. Never the low
> numbers I am getting at home. I am on Lisinopril and my Dr. upped my dose
> some time back due to protein in my urine. Am also on a diuretic for
> swelling in my feet and ankles. I'd been on a higher dose but he had to
cut
> that back because it was dropping my BP too much.
>
> I've had these weird dizzy spells off and on. My first thought was always
> hypo. Well, occasionally it was. But usually not. So I'd test my BP and
I
> was getting these weird numbers like 90/70. The systolic seemed
abnormally
> low but the diastolic was always more normal. Or so it seemed.
>
> I had no clue why I was getting these numbers but I may have figured it
out.
>
> Well, about 2 hours after I ate the tacos I felt unwell. Got all dizzy
and
> weak. Had this strange sort of numb sensation around my eyes and nose.
> Then sinus pain. Then a stuffy/runny nose, watery ears and eyes hurt
badly.
> Checked BG. It was 121. Checked BP. It was 91/71. Wasn't sure if the
> cheese was the culprit or not, but couldn't really see how it could cause
> low BP. The other symptoms, yes. But that?
>
> Then it happened again tonight. This time it was chili. Didn't see the
> gooey string of cheese until after I'd eaten a few bites. Thought I
picked
> out the stray shreds but may have inadvertently eaten some that had melted
> in.
[snip]
> Sure enough, about 2 hours after eating, got the exact same symptoms.
This
> time my BG was high. 170something or other. But that didn't surprise me
> given that it was high this morning when I woke up. I suspect it's
hormonal
> but don't know for sure. Anyway... Checked BP and it was 90/70!
>
> Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be
low,
> both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic that
> goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened. Maybe I
> ingested something I was allergic to then?
>
I may have but I didn't have a BP measuring instrument then.

In news:yKLci.1392$Sm5.1083@trndny04,
Julie Bove (Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:50:06 GMT) typed:

<...>
> I've had these weird dizzy spells off and on. My first thought was
> always hypo. Well, occasionally it was. But usually not. So I'd
> test my BP and I was getting these weird numbers like 90/70. The
> systolic seemed abnormally low but the diastolic was always more
> normal. Or so it seemed...

I don't know? I noticed my systolic drops while the diastolic doesn't
when I drink beer when I don't take my Lisinopril 2.5mg and Metoprolol
25mg for BP. And I had readings like 90/80 before. Isn't just 10mmHg
difference kind of scary sounding? I don't know what happens on the meds
and then I drink beer. I guess I should try that someday.

--
Bill
DX 1992 (ignored till 4/2007)
7R/7N 3x a day - Type II
A1c 11 (4/2007)
Acid-Reflex since 1992 - 20mg Omeprazole

On Jun 15, 11:50 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> This is kind of weird, and maybe OT. At times I frequently test my BP at
> home and it seems to run low. Especially the systolic. At the Drs. office
> it's usually right about normal or sometimes slightly high. Never the low
> numbers I am getting at home. I am on Lisinopril and my Dr. upped my dose
> some time back due to protein in my urine. Am also on a diuretic for
> swelling in my feet and ankles. I'd been on a higher dose but he had to cut
> that back because it was dropping my BP too much.
>
> I've had these weird dizzy spells off and on. My first thought was always
> hypo. Well, occasionally it was. But usually not. So I'd test my BP and I
> was getting these weird numbers like 90/70. The systolic seemed abnormally
> low but the diastolic was always more normal. Or so it seemed.
>
> I had no clue why I was getting these numbers but I may have figured it out.
>
> Daughter and I got takeout from Taco Time the other day. I ordered 4 tacos
> and asked for no cheese on them, plus some other things for my husband and
> her. As we were waiting, she freaked and said they were putting cheese on
> the tacos. And sure enough they were. I called this to their attention and
> they redid the tacos, but we wound up with only 3 of them. She took one
> taco plus some other things I'd ordered for her and I took the other two.
> Both had little bits of cheese on them. I suppose the worker had some
> cheese stuck on her gloves or something but... Gah! I picked off one
> tomato slice and all of the lettuce that looked like it had cheese mixed in
> and told daughter to be careful with hers as she's allergic to cheese too.
>
> Well, about 2 hours after I ate the tacos I felt unwell. Got all dizzy and
> weak. Had this strange sort of numb sensation around my eyes and nose.
> Then sinus pain. Then a stuffy/runny nose, watery ears and eyes hurt badly.
> Checked BG. It was 121. Checked BP. It was 91/71. Wasn't sure if the
> cheese was the culprit or not, but couldn't really see how it could cause
> low BP. The other symptoms, yes. But that?
>
> Then it happened again tonight. This time it was chili. Didn't see the
> gooey string of cheese until after I'd eaten a few bites. Thought I picked
> out the stray shreds but may have inadvertently eaten some that had melted
> in.
>
> Sure enough, about 2 hours after eating, got the exact same symptoms. This
> time my BG was high. 170something or other. But that didn't surprise me
> given that it was high this morning when I woke up. I suspect it's hormonal
> but don't know for sure. Anyway... Checked BP and it was 90/70!
>
> Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be low,
> both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic that
> goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened. Maybe I
> ingested something I was allergic to then?
>
> I sure will be glad when school is out and dance is over for the year so I
> can make my own food and not have to rely so much on restaurants and
> takeout. Gah! We're just on the go all the time lately.

90/70 is pretty good, but I also had very distinct dizziness on
lisinopril and Triamterene HCTZ. My doc cut the dose to only 5 mg of
lisinopril and that helped a little. But I eventually went off of it
because of the cough.

Hope you sort it out, the dizziness is certainly no fun!

In news:1182010627.682266.313190@i38g2000prf.googlegr oups.com,
Ricavito (Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:17:07 -0700) typed:

> 90/70 is pretty good, but I also had very distinct dizziness on
> lisinopril and Triamterene HCTZ. My doc cut the dose to only 5 mg of
> lisinopril and that helped a little. But I eventually went off of it
> because of the cough.
>
> Hope you sort it out, the dizziness is certainly no fun!

I am only on Lisinopril 2.5mg (I have to cut 5mg pills in half) and
Metoprolol 25mg. I don't have a cough. Does many people gets a cough
with Lisinopril?

--
Bill
DX 1992 (ignored till 4/2007)
7R/7N 3x a day - Type II
A1c 11 (4/2007)
Acid-Reflex since 1992 - 20mg Omeprazole

Julie Bove wrote:
> "Davybear" <Davybear@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:YoednZGRMJ2qEO7bnZ2dnUVZ_qKqnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
> > I have also had strange numbers from Lisinopril.
> > My Dr. only says that it might be from dehydration.
> > I do not think so but that is all he would say.
> > The nurse seemed to think that some of the home monitors for BP were not
> > accurate, but she had me test just after she did my BP and it came out
> > close to the same.
>
> This is the 2nd BP monitor I've had. I think both are pretty accurate. I
> am clearly having dizzy spells so something is going on. And I don't think
> it's dehydration. Just seems kind of odd that twice when I ate something I
> was allergic to I had a drop in my systolic pressure.

Julie -

Is your lisinopril just straight lisinopril, or does it have a
diuretic mixed in? Mine is labeled "Lisinopril/HCTZ" and my
pharmacaolgical understanding is that the Lisinopril is an ACE
inhibitor, and the HCTZ is a diuretic.

All I can add is "me too". I've been on Lisinopril/HCTZ for over a
year now, and especially in allergy season if I bend over and stand
back up quick, I get a dizzy spell.

I have mostly accomodated by not doing that. If I bend over, I don't
stand back up right away. It took some getting used to "not doing
that" because with three little kids running around I'm picking them
up all the time.

I remember when I was a kid - presumably before I had high blood
pressure - I could self-induce a dizzy spell by doing similar things.
(My favorite as a kid was to lay down on the couch for ten minutes and
then sprint up a flight of stairs). My doc says its no coincidence
that this effect went away when my bp was too high. Somehow I'm "back
to normal" now.

Except that in allergy season it seems worse. For a while I
convinced myself that OTC allergy meds and antihistamines were causing
the dizzy spells but then I went "cold turkey" for a while and now I'm
no longer sure if they're part of the cause or not because things seem
similar without them.

Tim.

"Tim Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message
news:1182012112.388784.147700@g37g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...

> Julie -
>
> Is your lisinopril just straight lisinopril, or does it have a
> diuretic mixed in? Mine is labeled "Lisinopril/HCTZ" and my
> pharmacaolgical understanding is that the Lisinopril is an ACE
> inhibitor, and the HCTZ is a diuretic.
>
> All I can add is "me too". I've been on Lisinopril/HCTZ for over a
> year now, and especially in allergy season if I bend over and stand
> back up quick, I get a dizzy spell.
>
> I have mostly accomodated by not doing that. If I bend over, I don't
> stand back up right away. It took some getting used to "not doing
> that" because with three little kids running around I'm picking them
> up all the time.
>
> I remember when I was a kid - presumably before I had high blood
> pressure - I could self-induce a dizzy spell by doing similar things.
> (My favorite as a kid was to lay down on the couch for ten minutes and
> then sprint up a flight of stairs). My doc says its no coincidence
> that this effect went away when my bp was too high. Somehow I'm "back
> to normal" now.
>
> Except that in allergy season it seems worse. For a while I
> convinced myself that OTC allergy meds and antihistamines were causing
> the dizzy spells but then I went "cold turkey" for a while and now I'm
> no longer sure if they're part of the cause or not because things seem
> similar without them.

It's straight Lisonpril, but I also take a diuretic. It's straight HCTZ.

This dizziness is coming from just sitting in the computer chair.

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:4ui77396fbvfc41preav1njrv3vvipuvhj@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:50:06 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP?
>
> 90/70 is what I usually have, and have had for all my life.

Really? Hmmm...

"MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
news:xRQci.122608$vE1.110072@newsfe24.lga...

> I haven't had those reactions (and fortunately don't have the allergies
> you have), but I am puzzled as to why these would be considered to be
> abnormal BP readings. Those readings do not appear (to me) to be
> abnormally low. In fact, they are what many people *hope* for.

Most people hope for 90/70? I don't think so. 90 is on the low side.
120/80 is normal.

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:873-4673EBC6-113@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net...
> My blood pressure ranges from 90/60 to 100/70. My doctor says it is
> perfect pressure. It is the one thing I dont take a pill for.

Hmmm...

"Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:5di6jvF34l9e0U1@mid.individual.net...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be
>> low, both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic
>> that goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened.
>> Maybe I ingested something I was allergic to then?
>
> I had those types of bp numbers constantly last year while in an adrenal
> crisis. It's common with Cushing's syndrome, where cortisol levels vary a
> lot.

Hmmm... Okay.

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:02:46 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>It's straight Lisonpril, but I also take a diuretic. It's straight HCTZ.
>
>This dizziness is coming from just sitting in the computer chair.


Hi Julie,

I take something called Zestoretic, 20mg twice daily. It is a
combination of Lisinopril and HCTZ. Normally, I have had no problem at
all, although I have wondered at a slightly wierd feeling I get
sometimes.

Will, T2

Julie Bove wrote:
> This is kind of weird, and maybe OT. At times I frequently test my BP at
> home and it seems to run low. Especially the systolic. At the Drs. office
> it's usually right about normal or sometimes slightly high. Never the low
> numbers I am getting at home. I am on Lisinopril and my Dr. upped my dose
> some time back due to protein in my urine. Am also on a diuretic for
> swelling in my feet and ankles. I'd been on a higher dose but he had to cut
> that back because it was dropping my BP too much.
>
> I've had these weird dizzy spells off and on. My first thought was always
> hypo. Well, occasionally it was. But usually not. So I'd test my BP and I
> was getting these weird numbers like 90/70. The systolic seemed abnormally
> low but the diastolic was always more normal. Or so it seemed.
>
> I had no clue why I was getting these numbers but I may have figured it out.
>
> Daughter and I got takeout from Taco Time the other day. I ordered 4 tacos
> and asked for no cheese on them, plus some other things for my husband and
> her. As we were waiting, she freaked and said they were putting cheese on
> the tacos. And sure enough they were. I called this to their attention and
> they redid the tacos, but we wound up with only 3 of them. She took one
> taco plus some other things I'd ordered for her and I took the other two.
> Both had little bits of cheese on them. I suppose the worker had some
> cheese stuck on her gloves or something but... Gah! I picked off one
> tomato slice and all of the lettuce that looked like it had cheese mixed in
> and told daughter to be careful with hers as she's allergic to cheese too.
>
> Well, about 2 hours after I ate the tacos I felt unwell. Got all dizzy and
> weak. Had this strange sort of numb sensation around my eyes and nose.
> Then sinus pain. Then a stuffy/runny nose, watery ears and eyes hurt badly.
> Checked BG. It was 121. Checked BP. It was 91/71. Wasn't sure if the
> cheese was the culprit or not, but couldn't really see how it could cause
> low BP. The other symptoms, yes. But that?
>
> Then it happened again tonight. This time it was chili. Didn't see the
> gooey string of cheese until after I'd eaten a few bites. Thought I picked
> out the stray shreds but may have inadvertently eaten some that had melted
> in.
>
> Sure enough, about 2 hours after eating, got the exact same symptoms. This
> time my BG was high. 170something or other. But that didn't surprise me
> given that it was high this morning when I woke up. I suspect it's hormonal
> but don't know for sure. Anyway... Checked BP and it was 90/70!
>
> Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be low,
> both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic that
> goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened. Maybe I
> ingested something I was allergic to then?
>
> I sure will be glad when school is out and dance is over for the year so I
> can make my own food and not have to rely so much on restaurants and
> takeout. Gah! We're just on the go all the time lately.

Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your symptomatic
episodes of low blood pressure (hypotension). It is likely that your
blood pressure medications will need to be reduced.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

On Jun 16, 9:41 am, Tim Shoppa <sho...@trailing-edge.com> wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Davybear" <Davyb...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> >news:YoednZGRMJ2qEO7bnZ2dnUVZ_qKqnZ2d@adelphia.co m...
>
> > > I have also had strange numbers from Lisinopril.
> > > My Dr. only says that it might be from dehydration.
> > > I do not think so but that is all he would say.
> > > The nurse seemed to think that some of the home monitors for BP were not
> > > accurate, but she had me test just after she did my BP and it came out
> > > close to the same.
>
> > This is the 2nd BP monitor I've had. I think both are pretty accurate. I
> > am clearly having dizzy spells so something is going on. And I don't think
> > it's dehydration. Just seems kind of odd that twice when I ate something I
> > was allergic to I had a drop in my systolic pressure.
>
> Julie -
>
> Is your lisinopril just straight lisinopril, or does it have a
> diuretic mixed in? Mine is labeled "Lisinopril/HCTZ" and my
> pharmacaolgical understanding is that the Lisinopril is an ACE
> inhibitor, and the HCTZ is a diuretic.
>
> All I can add is "me too". I've been on Lisinopril/HCTZ for over a
> year now, and especially in allergy season if I bend over and stand
> back up quick, I get a dizzy spell.
>
> I have mostly accomodated by not doing that. If I bend over, I don't
> stand back up right away. It took some getting used to "not doing
> that" because with three little kids running around I'm picking them
> up all the time.
>
> I remember when I was a kid - presumably before I had high blood
> pressure - I could self-induce a dizzy spell by doing similar things.
> (My favorite as a kid was to lay down on the couch for ten minutes and
> then sprint up a flight of stairs). My doc says its no coincidence
> that this effect went away when my bp was too high. Somehow I'm "back
> to normal" now.
>
> Except that in allergy season it seems worse. For a while I
> convinced myself that OTC allergy meds and antihistamines were causing
> the dizzy spells but then I went "cold turkey" for a while and now I'm
> no longer sure if they're part of the cause or not because things seem
> similar without them.
>
> Tim.

I was like that as a kid too, and could induce a dizzy spell by lying
down for a few minutes and then jumping to my feet. I had low BP for
years until a bunch of stuff went wrong with me, LOL.

On Jun 16, 9:27 am, "BillW50" <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
> Innews:1182010627.682266.313190@i38g2000prf.google groups.com,
> Ricavito (Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:17:07 -0700) typed:
>
> > 90/70 is pretty good, but I also had very distinct dizziness on
> > lisinopril and Triamterene HCTZ. My doc cut the dose to only 5 mg of
> > lisinopril and that helped a little. But I eventually went off of it
> > because of the cough.
>
> > Hope you sort it out, the dizziness is certainly no fun!
>
> I am only on Lisinopril 2.5mg (I have to cut 5mg pills in half) and
> Metoprolol 25mg. I don't have a cough. Does many people gets a cough
> with Lisinopril?
>
> --
> Bill
> DX 1992 (ignored till 4/2007)
> 7R/7N 3x a day - Type II
> A1c 11 (4/2007)
> Acid-Reflex since 1992 - 20mg Omeprazole

It's listed as one of the side effects. You can google for it here,
maybe try "cough" and "pril" I think it all the meds that end in
"pril" that cause some to cough. If I've got this wrong, someone will
come along and correct me.

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:UuWci.2686$Sm5.1248@trndny04...
>
> "MaryL" <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
> news:xRQci.122608$vE1.110072@newsfe24.lga...
>
>> I haven't had those reactions (and fortunately don't have the allergies
>> you have), but I am puzzled as to why these would be considered to be
>> abnormal BP readings. Those readings do not appear (to me) to be
>> abnormally low. In fact, they are what many people *hope* for.
>
> Most people hope for 90/70? I don't think so. 90 is on the low side.
> 120/80 is normal.
>

It's on the low/normal side, at least according to the speakers at the
diabetes education support groups from our local hospital. We were told --
on several occasions by different speakers -- that the numbers listed as
"normal" for the general population are actually too high for diabetics.
The same is true for the "norms" for cholesterol ("bad" type) and
triglycerides.

MaryL

Julie, my endo told me that a bp of 120/80 is not normal for a diabetic
and it should be lower, I dont remember the reasons, but that is what
he said.

Loretta

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:19434-46747D16-500@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net...
> Julie, my endo told me that a bp of 120/80 is not normal for a diabetic
> and it should be lower, I dont remember the reasons, but that is what
> he said.
>
> Loretta
>

I was told the same thing.

MaryL

In news:7k%ci.156340$NU1.31000@newsfe13.lga,
MaryL (Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:34:13 -0500) typed:
> "Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:19434-46747D16-500@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net...
>> Julie, my endo told me that a bp of 120/80 is not normal for a
>> diabetic and it should be lower, I dont remember the reasons, but
>> that is what he said.
>>
>> Loretta
>>
>
> I was told the same thing.
>
> MaryL

Who told you this and why do you believe them?

--
Bill
DX 1992 (ignored till 4/2007)
7R/7N 3x a day - Type II
A1c 11 (4/2007)
Acid-Reflex since 1992 - 20mg Omeprazole

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
news:46748854$0$1344$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
> In news:7k%ci.156340$NU1.31000@newsfe13.lga,
> MaryL (Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:34:13 -0500) typed:
>> "Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> news:19434-46747D16-500@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net...
>>> Julie, my endo told me that a bp of 120/80 is not normal for a
>>> diabetic and it should be lower, I dont remember the reasons, but
>>> that is what he said.
>>>
>>> Loretta
>>>
>>
>> I was told the same thing.
>>
>> MaryL
>
> Who told you this and why do you believe them?
>
> --
> Bill
> DX 1992 (ignored till 4/2007)
> 7R/7N 3x a day - Type II
> A1c 11 (4/2007)
> Acid-Reflex since 1992 - 20mg Omeprazole

I learned this is group sessions (not as an individual) -- meetings by the
diabetic support group sponsored by one of our local hospitals. Several
speakers said this in several meetings -- an endocrinologist, a
cardiologist, a diabetic educator nurse, and a couple of others. All said
essentially the same thing, that what is considered "normal" for
nondiabetics is too high for those with diabetes.

MaryL

On Jun 15, 11:50 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> This is kind of weird, and maybe OT. At times I frequently test my BP at
> home and it seems to run low. Especially the systolic. At the Drs. office
> it's usually right about normal or sometimes slightly high. Never the low
> numbers I am getting at home. I am on Lisinopril and my Dr. upped my dose
> some time back due to protein in my urine. Am also on a diuretic for
> swelling in my feet and ankles. I'd been on a higher dose but he had to cut
> that back because it was dropping my BP too much.
>
> I've had these weird dizzy spells off and on. My first thought was always
> hypo. Well, occasionally it was. But usually not. So I'd test my BP and I
> was getting these weird numbers like 90/70. The systolic seemed abnormally
> low but the diastolic was always more normal. Or so it seemed.
>
> I had no clue why I was getting these numbers but I may have figured it out.
>
> Daughter and I got takeout from Taco Time the other day. I ordered 4 tacos
> and asked for no cheese on them, plus some other things for my husband and
> her. As we were waiting, she freaked and said they were putting cheese on
> the tacos. And sure enough they were. I called this to their attention and
> they redid the tacos, but we wound up with only 3 of them. She took one
> taco plus some other things I'd ordered for her and I took the other two.
> Both had little bits of cheese on them. I suppose the worker had some
> cheese stuck on her gloves or something but... Gah! I picked off one
> tomato slice and all of the lettuce that looked like it had cheese mixed in
> and told daughter to be careful with hers as she's allergic to cheese too.
>
> Well, about 2 hours after I ate the tacos I felt unwell. Got all dizzy and
> weak. Had this strange sort of numb sensation around my eyes and nose.
> Then sinus pain. Then a stuffy/runny nose, watery ears and eyes hurt badly.
> Checked BG. It was 121. Checked BP. It was 91/71. Wasn't sure if the
> cheese was the culprit or not, but couldn't really see how it could cause
> low BP. The other symptoms, yes. But that?
>
> Then it happened again tonight. This time it was chili. Didn't see the
> gooey string of cheese until after I'd eaten a few bites. Thought I picked
> out the stray shreds but may have inadvertently eaten some that had melted
> in.
>
> Sure enough, about 2 hours after eating, got the exact same symptoms. This
> time my BG was high. 170something or other. But that didn't surprise me
> given that it was high this morning when I woke up. I suspect it's hormonal
> but don't know for sure. Anyway... Checked BP and it was 90/70!
>
> Has anyone else ever had this sort of BP? Used to be when it would be low,
> both numbers would go low. But now it seems to be just the systolic that
> goes low. Makes me wonder about the other times it has happened. Maybe I
> ingested something I was allergic to then?
>
> I sure will be glad when school is out and dance is over for the year so I
> can make my own food and not have to rely so much on restaurants and
> takeout. Gah! We're just on the go all the time lately.

Julie,

I don't take any meds, and my BP at home regularly runs 90/65--with a
regular stethoscope and cuff. (When I go to the doctor, it is higher,
but then I get nervous going to the doctor.) I've done research on
low BP because it often leaves me feeling fatigued, but there is very
little that addressed low BP. Most of the research is concerned about
high BP.

Sorry, this isn't much help.

Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise