Lowest FBG Ever

Wheeeeeeeee 94. Lowest since I began testing. Too bad it took all that booze
last night to do it. Monday night is the only time of the week I drink
alcohol. From now on, I'm only going to test on Tuesday mornings.

John

Perhaps you liver was too busy processing the alcohol to give you a
dawn phenomenon. Let's hope you didn't damage your liver. And while we
are at it, how many brain cells do you think you killed?

I am only half joking. Damages caused by excess amounts of alcohol are
often very long lasting or even permanent.

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:21:23 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>Wheeeeeeeee 94. Lowest since I began testing. Too bad it took all that booze
>last night to do it. Monday night is the only time of the week I drink
>alcohol. From now on, I'm only going to test on Tuesday mornings.
>
>John
>
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~


Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 08, 2007 is 3,606.
United Kingdom = 159 Other = 128.

How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

As of July 10, 2007 it has been 1532 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis

johnniemccoy@ wrote:
> Wheeeeeeeee 94. Lowest since I began testing. Too bad it took all that booze
> last night to do it. Monday night is the only time of the week I drink
> alcohol. From now on, I'm only going to test on Tuesday mornings.

Simply shows how wrong it is for a type-2 diabetic to be guided by
only a glucometer without a food scale.

Drinking alcohol in lieu of eating is a bad thing.

The suppression of hunger is telling.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way, making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

x-no-archive: yes

Grandpa Chuck wrote:
> Perhaps you liver was too busy processing the alcohol to give you a
> dawn phenomenon. Let's hope you didn't damage your liver. And while we
> are at it, how many brain cells do you think you killed?
>
> I am only half joking. Damages caused by excess amounts of alcohol are
> often very long lasting or even permanent.

So is the damage caused by consistently waking with blood glucose above
110. Probably much worse than the damage caused by drinking alcohol
once per week.

Susan

He didn't say he didn't eat.

Cheri


>Simply shows how wrong it is for a type-2 diabetic to be guided by
>only a glucometer without a food scale.
>
>Drinking alcohol in lieu of eating is a bad thing.

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:36:15 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>Wheeeeeeeee 94. Lowest since I began testing. Too bad it took all that booze
>>last night to do it. Monday night is the only time of the week I drink
>>alcohol. From now on, I'm only going to test on Tuesday mornings.
>>
>>John


Uh, John, how were you feeling this morning?

Chuck is right... too much of a good thing can turn into a bad thing,
sometimes.

Don't meant to throw cold water on your fun, though... sounds like you
had a really swell time ;-)

Will, T2

congratulations John, That is fabulous. When was this number reached.

Loretta

"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
news:j62893929jmp7e0lkieda0ehvfbf72ms02@4ax.com...
> Perhaps you liver was too busy processing the alcohol to give you a
> dawn phenomenon. Let's hope you didn't damage your liver. And while we
> are at it, how many brain cells do you think you killed?
>
> I am only half joking. Damages caused by excess amounts of alcohol are
> often very long lasting or even permanent.
>
I had no idea.

John

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rt28939uf4tklhdem6r2o6q9o7si4b7oe9@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:36:15 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
> <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
>
>>Wheeeeeeeee 94. Lowest since I began testing. Too bad it took all that
>>booze
>>>last night to do it. Monday night is the only time of the week I drink
>>>alcohol. From now on, I'm only going to test on Tuesday mornings.
>>>
>>>John
>
>
> Uh, John, how were you feeling this morning?
>
.....coupla beers and a little wine with dinner....hardly a binge....lol

John

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:38:08 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>> Uh, John, how were you feeling this morning?
>>
>....coupla beers and a little wine with dinner....hardly a binge....lol
>
>John


Sounds like you are well-adjusted, as they say... ;-)

Will, T2

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24258-46940D85-1240@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net...
>
> congratulations John, That is fabulous. When was this number reached.
>
> Loretta
>
...... just a few seconds after I stuck my finger.

John

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
newsa68935kett1ijvv589ais2nne4fvalnqc@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:38:08 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Uh, John, how were you feeling this morning?
>>>
>>....coupla beers and a little wine with dinner....hardly a binge....lol
>>
>>John
>
>
> Sounds like you are well-adjusted, as they say... ;-)
>
> Will, T2
>
Now, if I can just get this loose screw.......

John

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:53:46 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>> Sounds like you are well-adjusted, as they say... ;-)
>>
>> Will, T2
>>
>Now, if I can just get this loose screw.......
>
>John

Ha, etc... ;-)

Actually, I cannot take credit for that form of reply... The first
time I saw it was in a book entitled "The Paper Men", by William
Golding, who also wrote "Lord of the Flies".

Golding was an amazing man in real life, and he wrote quite a lot that
is worth reading, even today, after his death some years ago. Toward
the end of his career, he won the Nobel Prize in literature, about the
time "Paper Men" came out.

Here is a link to a very nice website about him and his work.

http://www.william-golding.co.uk/works.html

Sorry, John, I cannot help myself. It just came out, and I thought you
might enjoy reading "The Paper Men".

Will, T2

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6j78935vmcfbfpfj1ss1dokpsgm8gti291@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:53:46 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Sounds like you are well-adjusted, as they say... ;-)
>>>
>>> Will, T2
>>>
>>Now, if I can just get this loose screw.......
>>
>>John
>
> Ha, etc... ;-)
>
> Actually, I cannot take credit for that form of reply... The first
> time I saw it was in a book entitled "The Paper Men", by William
> Golding, who also wrote "Lord of the Flies".
>
> Golding was an amazing man in real life, and he wrote quite a lot that
> is worth reading, even today, after his death some years ago. Toward
> the end of his career, he won the Nobel Prize in literature, about the
> time "Paper Men" came out.
>
> Here is a link to a very nice website about him and his work.
>
> http://www.william-golding.co.uk/works.html
>
> Sorry, John, I cannot help myself. It just came out, and I thought you
> might enjoy reading "The Paper Men".
>
> Will, T2
>
I remember when Lord of the Flies came out as a movie, and thinking, how are
they going to do that? Well, as far as I'm concerned, they didn't....lol.
Nothing against English film making but it would probably make a very good
movie..... an American version, that is.

John

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:57:33 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:6j78935vmcfbfpfj1ss1dokpsgm8gti291@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:53:46 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Sounds like you are well-adjusted, as they say... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Will, T2
>>>>
>>>Now, if I can just get this loose screw.......
>>>
>>>John
>>
>> Ha, etc... ;-)
>>
>> Actually, I cannot take credit for that form of reply... The first
>> time I saw it was in a book entitled "The Paper Men", by William
>> Golding, who also wrote "Lord of the Flies".
>>
>> Golding was an amazing man in real life, and he wrote quite a lot that
>> is worth reading, even today, after his death some years ago. Toward
>> the end of his career, he won the Nobel Prize in literature, about the
>> time "Paper Men" came out.
>>
>> Here is a link to a very nice website about him and his work.
>>
>> http://www.william-golding.co.uk/works.html
>>
>> Sorry, John, I cannot help myself. It just came out, and I thought you
>> might enjoy reading "The Paper Men".
>>
>> Will, T2
>>
>I remember when Lord of the Flies came out as a movie, and thinking, how are
>they going to do that? Well, as far as I'm concerned, they didn't....lol.
>Nothing against English film making but it would probably make a very good
>movie..... an American version, that is.
>
>John
>


I still think you might enjoy "The Paper Men"... It might speak to you
in ways unique to yourself ...

If nothing else, it is very entertaining, while profound at the same
time...

Your friend,

Will, T2

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news:hva893tpc0a4t158iprq1otf8hbudtgkdm@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:57:33 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:6j78935vmcfbfpfj1ss1dokpsgm8gti291@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:53:46 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you are well-adjusted, as they say... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Will, T2
>>>>>
>>>>Now, if I can just get this loose screw.......
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>> Ha, etc... ;-)
>>>
>>> Actually, I cannot take credit for that form of reply... The first
>>> time I saw it was in a book entitled "The Paper Men", by William
>>> Golding, who also wrote "Lord of the Flies".
>>>
>>> Golding was an amazing man in real life, and he wrote quite a lot that
>>> is worth reading, even today, after his death some years ago. Toward
>>> the end of his career, he won the Nobel Prize in literature, about the
>>> time "Paper Men" came out.
>>>
>>> Here is a link to a very nice website about him and his work.
>>>
>>> http://www.william-golding.co.uk/works.html
>>>
>>> Sorry, John, I cannot help myself. It just came out, and I thought you
>>> might enjoy reading "The Paper Men".
>>>
>>> Will, T2
>>>
>>I remember when Lord of the Flies came out as a movie, and thinking, how
>>are
>>they going to do that? Well, as far as I'm concerned, they didn't....lol.
>>Nothing against English film making but it would probably make a very good
>>movie..... an American version, that is.
>>
>>John
>>
>
>
> I still think you might enjoy "The Paper Men"... It might speak to you
> in ways unique to yourself ...
>
> If nothing else, it is very entertaining, while profound at the same
> time...
>
> Your friend,
>
> Will, T2
>
Haven't even heard of that one..... where was I?

John

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:06:13 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:hva893tpc0a4t158iprq1otf8hbudtgkdm@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:57:33 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:6j78935vmcfbfpfj1ss1dokpsgm8gti291@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:53:46 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>>>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like you are well-adjusted, as they say... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will, T2
>>>>>>
>>>>>Now, if I can just get this loose screw.......
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>
>>>> Ha, etc... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I cannot take credit for that form of reply... The first
>>>> time I saw it was in a book entitled "The Paper Men", by William
>>>> Golding, who also wrote "Lord of the Flies".
>>>>
>>>> Golding was an amazing man in real life, and he wrote quite a lot that
>>>> is worth reading, even today, after his death some years ago. Toward
>>>> the end of his career, he won the Nobel Prize in literature, about the
>>>> time "Paper Men" came out.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a link to a very nice website about him and his work.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.william-golding.co.uk/works.html
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, John, I cannot help myself. It just came out, and I thought you
>>>> might enjoy reading "The Paper Men".
>>>>
>>>> Will, T2
>>>>
>>>I remember when Lord of the Flies came out as a movie, and thinking, how
>>>are
>>>they going to do that? Well, as far as I'm concerned, they didn't....lol.
>>>Nothing against English film making but it would probably make a very good
>>>movie..... an American version, that is.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>
>>
>> I still think you might enjoy "The Paper Men"... It might speak to you
>> in ways unique to yourself ...
>>
>> If nothing else, it is very entertaining, while profound at the same
>> time...
>>
>> Your friend,
>>
>> Will, T2
>>
>Haven't even heard of that one..... where was I?
>
>John
>

Just read the book, John... I think you may relate in quite unforeseen
ways... It is really a fun read, also, but I have found myself
thinking about it for years later, and I have re-read it several times
over the years...

Golding also wrote lots of other good stuff, including "The
Inheritors", another one of profound insight and well worth the effort
of reading...

Did I tell you that I read a lot? Normally, about 3-5 books per
week.... Sometimes more, sometimes less.

Will, T2

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:21:23 +0000, johnniemccoy@ wrote:

> Wheeeeeeeee 94. Lowest since I began testing. Too bad it took all that booze
> last night to do it. Monday night is the only time of the week I drink
> alcohol. From now on, I'm only going to test on Tuesday mornings.
>
> John

I typically enjoy a glass of dry red wine before retiring. Occassionally a
martini or scotch rocks. It seems to help.

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news:9qb8935qvl1n9u7a4i2anel03smddlsjpg@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:06:13 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:hva893tpc0a4t158iprq1otf8hbudtgkdm@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:57:33 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:6j78935vmcfbfpfj1ss1dokpsgm8gti291@4ax.co m...
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:53:46 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>>>>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like you are well-adjusted, as they say... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will, T2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now, if I can just get this loose screw.......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha, etc... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I cannot take credit for that form of reply... The first
>>>>> time I saw it was in a book entitled "The Paper Men", by William
>>>>> Golding, who also wrote "Lord of the Flies".
>>>>>
>>>>> Golding was an amazing man in real life, and he wrote quite a lot that
>>>>> is worth reading, even today, after his death some years ago. Toward
>>>>> the end of his career, he won the Nobel Prize in literature, about the
>>>>> time "Paper Men" came out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a link to a very nice website about him and his work.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.william-golding.co.uk/works.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, John, I cannot help myself. It just came out, and I thought you
>>>>> might enjoy reading "The Paper Men".
>>>>>
>>>>> Will, T2
>>>>>
>>>>I remember when Lord of the Flies came out as a movie, and thinking, how
>>>>are
>>>>they going to do that? Well, as far as I'm concerned, they
>>>>didn't....lol.
>>>>Nothing against English film making but it would probably make a very
>>>>good
>>>>movie..... an American version, that is.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I still think you might enjoy "The Paper Men"... It might speak to you
>>> in ways unique to yourself ...
>>>
>>> If nothing else, it is very entertaining, while profound at the same
>>> time...
>>>
>>> Your friend,
>>>
>>> Will, T2
>>>
>>Haven't even heard of that one..... where was I?
>>
>>John
>>
>
> Just read the book, John... I think you may relate in quite unforeseen
> ways... It is really a fun read, also, but I have found myself
> thinking about it for years later, and I have re-read it several times
> over the years...
>
> Golding also wrote lots of other good stuff, including "The
> Inheritors", another one of profound insight and well worth the effort
> of reading...
>
> Did I tell you that I read a lot? Normally, about 3-5 books per
> week.... Sometimes more, sometimes less.
>
> Will, T2
>
I rarely read, anymore..... since the internet. I still have many of the
books I've read through the years... many genres (eclectic being a gross
understatement). A few months ago one of the bookshelves in the dining room
colapsed... leaving only two there and three in the spare bedroom plus a
closet full in boxes I didn't bother to unpack when I moved here 10 years
ago. Mostly paperbacks.... people make fun of me for keeping them.... except
when they borrow hundreds of them over the years without returning them.
When I was very young I never kept books I'd read. Occasionally, I'll wish I
had them now..... then I wonder why.

There are only a few books I wish I still had. Someday I will order them and
throw all the rest away.....lol

John

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:43:43 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>
>> Did I tell you that I read a lot? Normally, about 3-5 books per
>> week.... Sometimes more, sometimes less.
>>
>> Will, T2
>>
>I rarely read, anymore..... since the internet. I still have many of the
>books I've read through the years... many genres (eclectic being a gross
>understatement). A few months ago one of the bookshelves in the dining room
>colapsed... leaving only two there and three in the spare bedroom plus a
>closet full in boxes I didn't bother to unpack when I moved here 10 years
>ago. Mostly paperbacks.... people make fun of me for keeping them.... except
>when they borrow hundreds of them over the years without returning them.
>When I was very young I never kept books I'd read. Occasionally, I'll wish I
>had them now..... then I wonder why.
>
>There are only a few books I wish I still had. Someday I will order them and
>throw all the rest away.....lol
>
>John
>

Oh, John... Please do not wait.

Did you know that Johnny Cash, a diabetic, in the end died, sitting in
a sumptuous library in his own home, and not being able to read a
word... That is straight from his daughter.

Don't wait, John... Reading is a gift from the gods.

There is a world ideas out there, just waiting for you to discover
them, and contribute to them, after your own fashion.

Will, T2

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:13:53 -0400, "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:43:43 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
><johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Did I tell you that I read a lot? Normally, about 3-5 books per
>>> week.... Sometimes more, sometimes less.
>>>
>>> Will, T2
>>>
>>I rarely read, anymore..... since the internet. I still have many of the
>>books I've read through the years... many genres (eclectic being a gross
>>understatement). A few months ago one of the bookshelves in the dining room
>>colapsed... leaving only two there and three in the spare bedroom plus a
>>closet full in boxes I didn't bother to unpack when I moved here 10 years
>>ago. Mostly paperbacks.... people make fun of me for keeping them.... except
>>when they borrow hundreds of them over the years without returning them.
>>When I was very young I never kept books I'd read. Occasionally, I'll wish I
>>had them now..... then I wonder why.
>>
>>There are only a few books I wish I still had. Someday I will order them and
>>throw all the rest away.....lol
>>
>>John
>>
>
>Oh, John... Please do not wait.
>
>Did you know that Johnny Cash, a diabetic, in the end died, sitting in
>a sumptuous library in his own home, and not being able to read a
>word... That is straight from his daughter.
>
>Don't wait, John... Reading is a gift from the gods.
>
>There is a world ideas out there, just waiting for you to discover
>them, and contribute to them, after your own fashion.
>
>Will, T2


Sorry about all the typos, John... I try, really I do... I hardly ever
type anything the way I mean for it to go.

I just do not see so well myself.

Please read all you can, while you can... That is the best advice I
have to give.

Will, T2

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:38:08 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>....coupla beers and a little wine with dinner....hardly a binge....lol
>
>John
>


Aha! An amateur!
Couple of beers and a little wine?
Why bother?
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~


Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 08, 2007 is 3,606.
United Kingdom = 159 Other = 128.

How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

As of July 10, 2007 it has been 1532 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:17:17 -0400, Will, T2 wrote
(in message
<b9f89350ckf8ea7f81k7grdgqqi709ho87@4ax.com>):

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:13:53 -0400, "Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:43:43 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
>> <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Did I tell you that I read a lot? Normally, about 3-5 books per
>>>> week.... Sometimes more, sometimes less.
>>>>
>>>> Will, T2
>>>>
>>> I rarely read, anymore..... since the internet. I still have many of the
>>> books I've read through the years... many genres (eclectic being a gross
>>> understatement). A few months ago one of the bookshelves in the dining
>>> room
>>> colapsed... leaving only two there and three in the spare bedroom plus a
>>> closet full in boxes I didn't bother to unpack when I moved here 10 years
>>> ago. Mostly paperbacks.... people make fun of me for keeping them....
>>> except
>>> when they borrow hundreds of them over the years without returning them.
>>> When I was very young I never kept books I'd read. Occasionally, I'll
>>> wish I
>>> had them now..... then I wonder why.
>>>
>>> There are only a few books I wish I still had. Someday I will order them
>>> and
>>> throw all the rest away.....lol
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>> Oh, John... Please do not wait.
>>
>> Did you know that Johnny Cash, a diabetic, in the end died, sitting in
>> a sumptuous library in his own home, and not being able to read a
>> word... That is straight from his daughter.
>>
>> Don't wait, John... Reading is a gift from the gods.
>>
>> There is a world ideas out there, just waiting for you to discover
>> them, and contribute to them, after your own fashion.
>>
>> Will, T2
>
>
> Sorry about all the typos, John... I try, really I do... I hardly ever
> type anything the way I mean for it to go.
>
> I just do not see so well myself.
>
> Please read all you can, while you can... That is the best advice I
> have to give.

Very true, Will. I have had so much trouble reading
this past year that I have almost given up. And I was
a voracious reader. We are going to try new lenses
to get some better correction. But one eye is
essentially useless.

Listen to him, John. He is our troop leader!

TaniO



> Will, T2

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:34:27 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
>news:j62893929jmp7e0lkieda0ehvfbf72ms02@4ax.com.. .
>> Perhaps you liver was too busy processing the alcohol to give you a
>> dawn phenomenon. Let's hope you didn't damage your liver. And while we
>> are at it, how many brain cells do you think you killed?
>>
>> I am only half joking. Damages caused by excess amounts of alcohol are
>> often very long lasting or even permanent.
>>
>I had no idea.
>
>John
>

Sorry John. From the tone of your earlier post I thought you had tied
one on. When you posted how little you actually drank I found out that
you are a so-called social drinker, or normal drinker. I never have
understood people like that. If you don't drink enough to get at least
half in the bag, why bother at all?

(These words are from a man who has been in recovery for over 28 years
and that few drinks still makes no sense at all to me.)
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~


Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 08, 2007 is 3,606.
United Kingdom = 159 Other = 128.

How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

As of July 10, 2007 it has been 1532 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis

"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
>
> If you don't drink enough to get at least
> half in the bag, why bother at all?
> --
>
> Grandpa Chuck
>
The beers, while grilling out, are the obligatory "guy" thing. The wine,
with dinner, is pretentiousness. George, my dog, looks to me as a role
model. I would never allow him to see me intoxicated.

John

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:30:12 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>
>Sorry John. From the tone of your earlier post I thought you had tied
>one on. When you posted how little you actually drank I found out that
>you are a so-called social drinker, or normal drinker. I never have
>understood people like that. If you don't drink enough to get at least
>half in the bag, why bother at all?

Strange things like taste, flavour, enjoyment...

If the only purpose in drinking was to get drunk then pure
ethanol would do the trick. I prefer Shiraz or Merlot or
Cabernet Sauvignon, but stop well before the "buzz" point.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:25:42 GMT, TaniO <aobensam@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Very true, Will. I have had so much trouble reading
>this past year that I have almost given up. And I was
>a voracious reader. We are going to try new lenses
>to get some better correction. But one eye is
>essentially useless.
>
>Listen to him, John. He is our troop leader!
>
>TaniO
>

Thanks so much, TaniO....

I just wanted to help John, and anyone else who might be reading.

I do not claim to be the leader of anyone, except perhaps those who
might think there is something worthwhile in what I may have to
contribute.

I would say the real leaders, as far as I can discern, are Quentin and
Alan S. They really do a lot to keep our group going, and they help us
process through difficult times in so many ways that are totally
beyond counting.

The important thing to my mind is that it takes all of us... You,
TaniO are just as important as anyone.... and I am, while perhaps
visible, am among the least... We are all great, because we care
enough to be here.

Will, T2

"Will, T2" <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote in message
news:mti893pg7rpukpeffes37to8d9fk6nkgu5@4ax.com...
: On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:25:42 GMT, TaniO <aobensam@earthlink.net>
: wrote:
:
: >Very true, Will. I have had so much trouble reading
: >this past year that I have almost given up. And I was
: >a voracious reader. We are going to try new lenses
: >to get some better correction. But one eye is
: >essentially useless.
: >
: >Listen to him, John. He is our troop leader!
: >
: >TaniO
: >
:
: Thanks so much, TaniO....
:
: I just wanted to help John, and anyone else who might be reading.
:
: I do not claim to be the leader of anyone, except perhaps those who
: might think there is something worthwhile in what I may have to
: contribute.
:
: I would say the real leaders, as far as I can discern, are Quentin and
: Alan S. They really do a lot to keep our group going, and they help us
: process through difficult times in so many ways that are totally
: beyond counting.
:
: The important thing to my mind is that it takes all of us... You,
: TaniO are just as important as anyone.... and I am, while perhaps
: visible, am among the least... We are all great, because we care
: enough to be here.
:
: Will, T2

Hello you, two. TaniO, have wondered how your eyes have been, but have been
so remiss in asking. I forget so much. Forgive me for forgetting. So
many I think of, but fail to put pen to paper (so to speak)

Here is another voracious reader who has had the skids applied with ptosis.
I do have perfect vision with implanted lens. However, until we find a
treatment that helps, the myasthenia causing the ptosis, will cover the
entryway to the pupils, preventing me from seeing. I've said I could handle
the legs and arms part, but this loss of vision has been the most
unsettling. My heart truly goes out to anyone with impaired vision. I am
trying to relearn to do my computer graphics and photo restoration with this
*new* vision. So far, so good, except that I have not got into that which
requires an astute eye. We'll see.

One of my internists that I have at the hospital working with my neuro, is a
big believer in the power of words. He is Pakistani, and he shared with me
how he taught himself to read English. Amazing what people will go through.
Would you believe, one of the things he used was a Reader's Digest. We had
many a late night talk during my first hospitalization. hehe He even puts
up with my being hard of hearing and having to repeat himself for me.

Billie

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:21:05 +1000, Alan S
<loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:30:12 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
><GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>Sorry John. From the tone of your earlier post I thought you had tied
>>one on. When you posted how little you actually drank I found out that
>>you are a so-called social drinker, or normal drinker. I never have
>>understood people like that. If you don't drink enough to get at least
>>half in the bag, why bother at all?
>
>Strange things like taste, flavour, enjoyment...
>
>If the only purpose in drinking was to get drunk then pure
>ethanol would do the trick. I prefer Shiraz or Merlot or
>Cabernet Sauvignon, but stop well before the "buzz" point.
>

For those of us who became addicted it did start out with enjoying
things like the taste and how it made us fee. By the end drinking
ethanol probably would have filled physical addiction and the feelings
of euphoria were long gone and could not be reached again regardless
of how hard we tried. Near the end for many of us we didn't want to
drink at all - we just didn't know how to not drink. I hope and pray
you never have to experience the feelings of hopelessness, loneliness
and despair that many of us have been through. OTOH, if I had not
experienced those things I never would have been led to a way of
living that is filled with joy and peace of mind. I am truly blessed.
Many of my brethren have died without finding a way out of the abyss.
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~


Americans killed in the occupation of Iraq as of July 08, 2007 is 3,606.
United Kingdom = 159 Other = 128.

How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!

As of July 10, 2007 it has been 1532 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the frequency of American deaths since it began.


"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis

"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
news:qvm893l36dnlfir6qnib892bepn55b5r3s@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:21:05 +1000, Alan S
> <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:30:12 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
>><GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Sorry John. From the tone of your earlier post I thought you had tied
>>>one on. When you posted how little you actually drank I found out that
>>>you are a so-called social drinker, or normal drinker. I never have
>>>understood people like that. If you don't drink enough to get at least
>>>half in the bag, why bother at all?
>>
>>Strange things like taste, flavour, enjoyment...
>>
>>If the only purpose in drinking was to get drunk then pure
>>ethanol would do the trick. I prefer Shiraz or Merlot or
>>Cabernet Sauvignon, but stop well before the "buzz" point.
>>
>
> For those of us who became addicted it did start out with enjoying
> things like the taste and how it made us fee. By the end drinking
> ethanol probably would have filled physical addiction and the feelings
> of euphoria were long gone and could not be reached again regardless
> of how hard we tried. Near the end for many of us we didn't want to
> drink at all - we just didn't know how to not drink. I hope and pray
> you never have to experience the feelings of hopelessness, loneliness
> and despair that many of us have been through. OTOH, if I had not
> experienced those things I never would have been led to a way of
> living that is filled with joy and peace of mind. I am truly blessed.
> Many of my brethren have died without finding a way out of the abyss.
> --
>
> Grandpa Chuck
>
I drank 3 to 4 screwdrivers, occasionally more, and a beer with late dinner
every night for 25 years, or so. Being an entertainer and practically living
in night clubs, it seemed normal. I never even felt the effects of the
booze. Last year I went to the doctor because my feet burned and hurt badly
all the time. He diagnosed Alcoholic Neuropathy, the damage being permanent.
On top of that .... Diabetes, my lucky day.

Now I drink only on Monday and in moderation. Actually, I'm not even
supposed to do that. My point is, I was an alcoholic and didn't realize it.
I was terrified at the prospect of not having my screwdrivers every night
but the day I stopped .... weird, I didn't miss it at all. I think I really
would though if I didn't have my Mondays to look forward to.

John

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:43:43 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>There are only a few books I wish I still had. Someday I will order them and
>throw all the rest away.....lol

Well, I never thought you were the kind who could throw books away!
You sounded such a nice guy....

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
>
>>There are only a few books I wish I still had. Someday I will order them
>>and
>>throw all the rest away.....lol
>
> Well, I never thought you were the kind who could throw books away!
> You sounded such a nice guy....
>
> Nicky.
>
Young people, that is, people who have yet to acquire anything of substance,
are fond of clichés regarding the ownership of people by possessions. I've
always laughed at them but I'm getting weary of stumbling over my own....
mostly book, books and more books. It seems those I really valued have
managed to disappear anyway. Of course, I wouldn't throw them away but they
do tend to weigh me down so I may give them to the community clubhouse
library as a first step in gaining some "room to roam" in my life.

John

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:36:06 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>Young people, that is, people who have yet to acquire anything of substance,
>are fond of clichés regarding the ownership of people by possessions. I've
>always laughed at them but I'm getting weary of stumbling over my own....
>mostly book, books and more books. It seems those I really valued have
>managed to disappear anyway. Of course, I wouldn't throw them away but they
>do tend to weigh me down so I may give them to the community clubhouse
>library as a first step in gaining some "room to roam" in my life.

Hmmm. Know how you feel - we enjoy filking at science fiction
conventions. I once wrote a filk whose chorus was "I can't resist a
trilogy, you see..."

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:36:06 GMT, "johnniemccoy@"
<johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:

>Young people, that is, people who have yet to acquire anything of substance,
>