Meal for Thanksgiving

What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not a
good thing to eat for a diabetic

"charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not
> a good thing to eat for a diabetic

Turkeys are fine for diabetics. Just avoid too much stuffing (bread),
cranberry sauce (sugar), and the pies afterwards.

Jeff

huh?? turkeys are almost all protein! it's excellent for diabetics.

we're having our traditional TG dinner...

turkey, with stuffin'
el grosso potatoes (my name for them)
green beans
parsnips
dinner rolls
apple pie
and whatever else I have the strength to
stand and cook. <g>

worst thing a diabetic can do is deny food.... it's called
learning to eat in moderation.. instead of 5 heaping spoons
of potatoes, just have 1! instead of a whole slice of pie.. just
eat the pie and leave the crust.. eat a half of roll instead of
2 or 3, etc.. all in moderation!

--
Reisa, T1, Animas IR1250 Pumper
DX-5/00 ASD-7/00
A1C: 6.2% (8/24/06)
Daily CHO: 150-200gm
TDD: 34-38u
"charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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: What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not
a
: good thing to eat for a diabetic
:
:

In article <G_-dnacO8tXFVcLYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
"charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote:

> What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not a
> good thing to eat for a diabetic

Why on earth do you say that? Nothing wrong with turkey. It's a good
source of protein. Just watch out for the carbs in the stuffing and in
the thickener for the gravy.

Priscilla

my wife was looking at barbecued turkey legs and I thought I seen that it
had alot of carbs
"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> In article <G_-dnacO8tXFVcLYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
> "charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>> What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not
>> a
>> good thing to eat for a diabetic
>
> Why on earth do you say that? Nothing wrong with turkey. It's a good
> source of protein. Just watch out for the carbs in the stuffing and in
> the thickener for the gravy.
>
> Priscilla

well yah, I can see how BBQ turkey legs would be a bit carby.
BBQ sauce has sugar in it. It would be a fast acting carb so
would send her high quickly and probably over produce insulin
and drop her quickly as well.

stick with regular no frills turkey legs and make a garlic/butter
sauce and should be good to go.

--
Reisa, T1, Animas IR1250 Pumper
DX-5/00 ASD-7/00
A1C: 6.2% (8/24/06)
Daily CHO: 150-200gm
TDD: 34-38u
"charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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: my wife was looking at barbecued turkey legs and I thought I seen that it
: had alot of carbs
: "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
: news:vze23t8n-68E17A.22232218112006@individual.net...
: > In article <G_-dnacO8tXFVcLYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
: > "charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote:
: >
: >> What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are
not
: >> a
: >> good thing to eat for a diabetic
: >
: > Why on earth do you say that? Nothing wrong with turkey. It's a good
: > source of protein. Just watch out for the carbs in the stuffing and in
: > the thickener for the gravy.
: >
: > Priscilla
:
:

charlie and grace wrote:
> my wife was looking at barbecued turkey legs and I thought
I seen
> that it had alot of carbs

Was there a sauce or marinade in that recipe? Generally
speaking, all animal proteins are low carb - if eaten plain
without sauces, gravy and stuffings. Beef, pork, chicken,
veal, eggs, fish, game, whatever takes your fancy. The foods
you need to choose carefully are anything made from flour,
starchy vegetables (potatoes, corn, parsnips, carrots..)
rice, pasta, sugar, fruit, juices, milk. Things you can eat
a fair but of are the non starchy veggies, cooked and raw.
Fill up on the protein foods and the low starch veggies
(make sure you eat a variety of those and of different
colours for maximum nutrition). If there is room and your bg
readings are good then you can add a little of the "choose
carefully" stuff. Berries are fruits that seem to have least
impact on the bg's, juices have the worst.

There is no need to eat small, but choose your foods
carefully. A little bit of rice and a small piece of
skinless chicken will not sustain you as long as a decent
serve of meat with a swag of low starch vegetables. All you
are getting out of what you ate tonight is a bit of protein,
a little nutrition from the carrots and nothing much else.

When you eat higher carb foods, eat them as a snack, away
from a main meal. Eat small (carb) and often if it fits in
with your lifestyle better. You can pick at protein foods
and low starch veggies all day and it shouldn't make an
impact on the bg's. An apple and a piece of full fat cheese
or a few walnuts (for heart health) make a nice between meal
snack.

Make a time for your regular exercise. I think I remember
you saying in your first post in the food newsgroup that the
doctor suggested, cut the sugar and exercise and hope you
have improved by next visit? Cutting the sugar isn't a
fabulous prescription. Looking at the overall picture is
better. Better foods - vegetables are more nutritious than a
serve of rice, certain fruits are better than others (for
bg's and nutrition), daily exercise is great.

A lot of people around my area (especially retirees) have
joined bicycle groups, others have formed walking groups,
many do aquarobics at the local pool, men and women. There
is a whole new world out there!

what fruits are better and which one's arn't
"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
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> charlie and grace wrote:
>> my wife was looking at barbecued turkey legs and I thought
> I seen
>> that it had alot of carbs
>
> Was there a sauce or marinade in that recipe? Generally
> speaking, all animal proteins are low carb - if eaten plain
> without sauces, gravy and stuffings. Beef, pork, chicken,
> veal, eggs, fish, game, whatever takes your fancy. The foods
> you need to choose carefully are anything made from flour,
> starchy vegetables (potatoes, corn, parsnips, carrots..)
> rice, pasta, sugar, fruit, juices, milk. Things you can eat
> a fair but of are the non starchy veggies, cooked and raw.
> Fill up on the protein foods and the low starch veggies
> (make sure you eat a variety of those and of different
> colours for maximum nutrition). If there is room and your bg
> readings are good then you can add a little of the "choose
> carefully" stuff. Berries are fruits that seem to have least
> impact on the bg's, juices have the worst.
>
> There is no need to eat small, but choose your foods
> carefully. A little bit of rice and a small piece of
> skinless chicken will not sustain you as long as a decent
> serve of meat with a swag of low starch vegetables. All you
> are getting out of what you ate tonight is a bit of protein,
> a little nutrition from the carrots and nothing much else.
>
> When you eat higher carb foods, eat them as a snack, away
> from a main meal. Eat small (carb) and often if it fits in
> with your lifestyle better. You can pick at protein foods
> and low starch veggies all day and it shouldn't make an
> impact on the bg's. An apple and a piece of full fat cheese
> or a few walnuts (for heart health) make a nice between meal
> snack.
>
> Make a time for your regular exercise. I think I remember
> you saying in your first post in the food newsgroup that the
> doctor suggested, cut the sugar and exercise and hope you
> have improved by next visit? Cutting the sugar isn't a
> fabulous prescription. Looking at the overall picture is
> better. Better foods - vegetables are more nutritious than a
> serve of rice, certain fruits are better than others (for
> bg's and nutrition), daily exercise is great.
>
> A lot of people around my area (especially retirees) have
> joined bicycle groups, others have formed walking groups,
> many do aquarobics at the local pool, men and women. There
> is a whole new world out there!
>

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:58:20 -0800, charlie and grace wrote:

> What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not a
> good thing to eat for a diabetic

I plan to be having my fair share of turkey, with side dishes in small,
moderate amounts. Watch that you don't overeat - even with good control of
the carbs.

>bill@adelphia.net (charlie*and*grace) asked"
>What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks
>like turky's are not a good thing to eat for a diabetic.

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Sliced turkey breast/fat free gravy.
Green beans with smart balance butter.
Salad with Walden Farm dressing.
Micro -waved sweet potato sprinked with grated fresh ginger OR stuffing
made with low carb bread.
Sugar free jello.
Sugar free jellied cranberry.

NOW for b/f who's not diabetic whole different menu so am cooking for
two.

In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:05:42 GMT in Msg.#
<aSP7h.522$tM1.410@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.ne t>, "Jeff"
<jeff@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:G_-dnacO8tXFVcLYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> > What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not
> > a good thing to eat for a diabetic
>
> Turkeys are fine for diabetics. Just avoid too much stuffing (bread),
> cranberry sauce (sugar), and the pies afterwards.

My own personal T3 always makes cranberry sauce from scratch for me with
Splenda not sugar. She estimated how much to use initially. And, my palate
has already changed so much that she know uses half as much Splenda as she
began using.

I love oven roasted turkey. I used to love turkey sandwiches. Now I still
love turkey roll-ups. Sometimes just turkey & cranberry sauce, sometimes
with cheese too.

--
Donna B : ^> shallotpeel <*> Yahoo Messenger: shallotpeel

charlie and grace wrote:
> what fruits are better and which one's aren't

You may or may not have heard about the glycemic index (GI)
of carbohydrates. It's a ranking of how carbohydrates from
food affect blood glucose levels. As far as I am aware, the
index was created from testing on non diabetic persons but
it is a valuable tool for diabetics. Some fruits have bigger
impact on bg than others.

For the most part you might find fruits low on the GI are
friendlier to your bg's than those higher on the GI and
conversely you may find yourself able to eat a high GI fruit
with no problems. Example - watermelon is higher on the
index but I handle it fine, even with a big bowl of it.
Unfortunately finding types and amounts of carbs takes a bit
of personal experimentation but most type 2's find a happy
place

Don't try and take everything in at once, if you can start
some exercise and eat less of the foods you now know can
cause problems, its a good start. But here's GI info anyway:

http://www.lowglycemicdiet.com/gifoodlist.html this list is
an easy to read starter list. There are more comprehensive
ones.

Berries are a great food for type 2's -especially
blueberries.

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:58:20 -0800, "charlie and grace"
<bill@adelphia.net> wrote:

>What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turkeys are not a
>good thing to eat for a diabetic
>
The turkey itself is not the problem for diabetics. The problem is all
the other stuff that's traditionally served *with* the turkey.

Thanksgiving is a minefield for diabetics because it's a *social*
event as much as a *food* event. That is, we don't often have control
over the menu, and sometimes family members' feelings are hurt if
their food expectations are not met, by themselves and by everybody
else present. Especially, the ones doing the cooking seem to be the
most sensitive.

It makes me angry that in my extended family, the required side dishes
are bread stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy made from the turkey
drippings, candied yams, jellied cranberry, followed by pumpkin and
apple pie -- all in heaping helpings. If you turn this stuff down,
they look at you like you're a weirdo, ingrate, or spoilsport. Even if
they know you're diabetic, the sympathy quotient at Thanksgiving is
next to nil. Everyone is focused on gorging themselves and making sure
that the others are gorged, too.

This dynamic tends to make Thanksgiving an unpleasant occasion for me.
A lot of times, I've opted to stay home, where at least I could
control what I ate.

I love cranberry sauce. I found that using Splenda is delightful for
cranberries.

Splenda can also be carmalized and that would be great for real peacon
pie. Switching ingrediants and pie crust you would have a very low
carb. peacon pie.

I am still learning since being diag. Dec. 2000

Ira T2
Glipizide 5.mg once a day
Metformin 700 mg twice a day

Alexander Arnakis wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:58:20 -0800, "charlie and grace"
> <bill@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> >What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turkeys are not a
> >good thing to eat for a diabetic
> >
> The turkey itself is not the problem for diabetics. The problem is all
> the other stuff that's traditionally served *with* the turkey.
>
> Thanksgiving is a minefield for diabetics because it's a *social*
> event as much as a *food* event. That is, we don't often have control
> over the menu, and sometimes family members' feelings are hurt if
> their food expectations are not met, by themselves and by everybody
> else present. Especially, the ones doing the cooking seem to be the
> most sensitive.
>
> It makes me angry that in my extended family, the required side dishes
> are bread stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy made from the turkey
> drippings, candied yams, jellied cranberry, followed by pumpkin and
> apple pie -- all in heaping helpings. If you turn this stuff down,
> they look at you like you're a weirdo, ingrate, or spoilsport. Even if
> they know you're diabetic, the sympathy quotient at Thanksgiving is
> next to nil. Everyone is focused on gorging themselves and making sure
> that the others are gorged, too.
>
> This dynamic tends to make Thanksgiving an unpleasant occasion for me.
> A lot of times, I've opted to stay home, where at least I could
> control what I ate.

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charlie and grace wrote:
> What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not a
> good thing to eat for a diabetic
>
>

I don't know what you guys are reading, Charlie, but turkey and veggies
and a bit of pumpkin without sugar are great for diabetics. It's
stuffing, bread, potatoes and sugar you want to avoid. Don't be fooled
by sugar free products, they're loaded with starches and sugar alcohols
and are often extremely high glycemic.

Susan

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charlie and grace wrote:
> what fruits are better and which one's arn't

Berries are best, and small servings of fruits, in general.

Susan

charlie and grace wrote:
> What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not a
> good thing to eat for a diabetic
>
>
I gave up thanksgiving.
I gave up christmas too.

--

If you want to win a war you have to be worse than the enemy. Nice guys
come home in a box. America wants it's soldiers to be nice guys.
What kind of support is that?

Kickass Joe

thank you susan
"Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>
> charlie and grace wrote:
>> what fruits are better and which one's arn't
>
> Berries are best, and small servings of fruits, in general.
>
> Susan

charlie and grace <bill@adelphia.net> wrote:
: What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not a
: good thing to eat for a diabetic

Turkey is just fine, as it is very low carb and , if you are worrying
about fat, low in fat if you don't eat the skin. The problems com ewith
stuffing and crnberry sauce and mashe sweet ptatoes wiwth pineapple and
marchmallows and pie, etc.

I make my own cranberry sauce using the artificial sweetener, Splenda in
place of the sugar. I do the same with my pumpkin and apple pie. I ade
my stuffing outside the bird and use about 2 times the vegetables, like
onions, celery, mushrooms, leeks, green peppers, as I do bread and use
whole grain breads. I do not thicken my gravy so it has no flour. There
has been a thread about this recently and it may still be on the list.

If you like a little dry red wine with your dinner is also just fine, just
don't overdo:-)

Wendy

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:58:20 -0800, "charlie and grace"
<bill@adelphia.net> wrote:

>What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not a
>good thing to eat for a diabetic
>

Are you T1 or T2?
I am T2 and my doctor advised me when I was diagnosed to take my meds
as usual, but otherwise to ignore my diabetes on Thanksgiving,
Christmas, our wedding anniversary and my birthday. He also warned me
to make sure I get back on my diabetes routine the morning after and
to stick to it the rest of the years.

My meter stays in the drawer those four days. Do I go hog-wild? No,
not at all. I do practice portion control, but deny myself nothing
including the pumpkin pie with Cool Whip on top. I will even eat a
small portion of my wife's Chocolate Yum-Yum. BTW, she once made it
for our diabetes group picnic and made it with things like sugar free
instant pudding, low fat cream cheese, diet Cool Whip, etc. We figured
out the carbs per serving and it disappeared before she or I could
even sample it.

The trick, if there is one, is always portion control. Don't let the
diabetes police that most of us have in our families ruin it for you.
I still know a number of people who call it "Sugar Diabetes" and I try
to educate them if they will listen.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~
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Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
As of November 19, 2006 it has been 1296 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
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"charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turky's are not
a
> good thing to eat for a diabetic

Huh? Why do you think turkey is not okay to eat?

--
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"charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> my wife was looking at barbecued turkey legs and I thought I seen that it
> had alot of carbs

I don't think BBQ'd turkey legs are typical Thanksgiving fare. No doubt the
BBQ sauce is loaded with sugar or more likely in this country high fructose
corn syrup.

--
See my webpage:
http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm

<<On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:58:20 -0800, "charlie and grace"
<bill@adelphia.net> wrote:
What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turkeys are
not a good thing to eat for a diabetic>>

i am invited to seval holiday gatherings this year.

thanksgiving will be at my friends daughter's farm, 30 people each
bringing a dish. i am making a deep dish apple pie with crumb topping,
sugar free. i will be using almond flour for the crumb topping. i will
also be bringing a sugar free pumpkin pie. the topping will be whipped
cream & i'm making sugar free spiced pecans to sprinkle on top.

my contribution to the others parties will be the same.

what will i eat? lots of turkey and a forkful of mashed & a forkfull of
sweet potatoes. i'm sure there will be plain veggies of some
kind....anda piece of cranberry sauce. these do not boost my bg levels
in moderation.

if i want desert, i know there will be something i can have!
;-)

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:27:20 -0500, Donna B <shallotpeel@comcast.net>
wrote:

..
>
>My own personal T3

What the heck is a T3?
--

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~
Americans killed in Iraq as of November 16, 2006 is 2865. United Kingdom = 125 Other = 121.
Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
As of November 19, 2006 it has been 1296 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 05:41:34 GMT, Alexander Arnakis
<invalid@address.none> wrote:

> If you turn this stuff down,
>they look at you like you're a weirdo, ingrate, or spoilsport.



Why do you care? Seriously?

At Christmas (our feast over here) they learnt long ago to
ignore my dietary limitations as I ignore theirs. There is
always enough meat and protein on the table to feed me, even
if I only have "tasters" of the potato salad and so on -
there are veges and salads as well. If not - take some with
you.

If it makes you feel better - look at them as weirdos,
ingrates and spoilsports. Because if they act like that -
they are. As well as being just plain rude and uncouth.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Rome and Lazio

"Witchy Way" <witchyway@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> thanksgiving will be at my friends daughter's farm, 30 people each
> bringing a dish. i am making a deep dish apple pie with crumb topping,
>
> my contribution to the others parties will be the same.
>
> i'm sure there will be plain veggies of some kind....
>

Why not be *really sure* & take a dish of green beens or somesuch.
bj

In alt.support.diabetes on Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:27:08 GMT in Msg.#
<7cf1m2tmt8e4ui1c43iteq56okuuh57t79@4ax.com>, GrandpaChuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4ME.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:27:20 -0500, Donna B <shallotpeel@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >My own personal T3
>
> What the heck is a T3?

I didn't know in September either until I found out I had one!! I'm trying
to think of a T-shirt design for her as a T3. <G>

In reply to a long post of mine, where one of the things I said was, "My
partner has been an amazing help since she is the primary food person but
she's fascinated with the research, the biology of it, has been a kind of
amateur nutritionist & great cook & connoisseur of cookbooks. She also wants
me to live a long time. I've read some both online & offline. I've talked to
people F2F who have been through it. An ex-neighbor is an incredible
dietitian & I reached out to talk to her. This group has also been a big
help." ....

From: "Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com>
Newsgroups: alt.support.diabetes
Subject: Re: 5% Club! From 8.1 to 5.0 in 3 Months!
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 23:34:27 +0100
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> In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:43:52 +0100 in Msg.#
> <4nj3ooFanpflU1@individual.net>, "Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com>
> wrote:
>> Ah, a top-notch Type 3 : )
>
> Hmm, new term? What's a Type 3? <g>

They're the types who look after the T1s and the T2s : ) A good T3 is worth
their weight in gold...

>> You need to keep that one.
>
> I'm working on it! We celebrate 7 years today.

Congratulations again

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.3/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
No Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/72/72Kg

Don't forget my favorite--strawberries. I've also found that peaches are
not bad. I can eat half an apple with no problems.

But as with everything--test, test, test!

Like you, I found out about my sugar problem right before Thanksgiving a
year ago. For dessert, instead of pie, I made the pie fillings--pumpkin,
fruit--with Splenda and ate them topped with whipped topping. You still
want to keep your portions at about 1/2 cup or so, but it lasts in the
refrigerator for several days and makes a nice treat.
--
Michelle, T2
diet & exercise

"charlie and grace" <bill@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> thank you susan
> "Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:4sbbbuFugih2U5@mid.individual.net...
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> charlie and grace wrote:
>>> what fruits are better and which one's arn't
>>
>> Berries are best, and small servings of fruits, in general.
>>
>> Susan
>
>

Gosh Alexander, I'm sorry to hear this. My family has been great about my
limitations, even making a point to fix dishes I can eat and buying sugar
free bread & butter pickles, etc.

Sounds like your family is afraid that they themselves should be watching
their diets, and therefore don't like the reminder while you try to eat
well. If I were in your shoes, I would feel a bit peeved too. Try to
remember though, it's probably their own guilt talking.
--
Michelle, T2
diet & exercise

"Alexander Arnakis" <invalid@address.none> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:58:20 -0800, "charlie and grace"
> <bill@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>>What would be a good meal for Thanksgiving? It looks like turkeys are not
>>a
>>good thing to eat for a diabetic
>>
> The turkey itself is not the problem for diabetics. The problem is all
> the other stuff that's traditionally served *with* the turkey.
>
> Thanksgiving is a minefield for diabetics because it's a *social*
> event as much as a *food* event. That is, we don't often have control
> over the menu, and sometimes family members' feelings are hurt if
> their food expectations are not met, by themselves and by everybody
> else present. Especially, the ones doing the cooking seem to be the
> most sensitive.
>
> It makes me angry that in my extended family, the required side dishes
> are bread stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy made from the turkey
> drippings, candied yams, jellied cranberry, followed by pumpkin and
> apple pie -- all in heaping helpings. If you turn this stuff down,
> they look at you like you're a weirdo, ingrate, or spoilsport. Even if
> they know you're diabetic, the sympathy quotient at Thanksgiving is
> next to nil. Everyone is focused on gorging themselves and making sure
> that the others are gorged, too.
>
> This dynamic tends to make Thanksgiving an unpleasant occasion for me.
> A lot of times, I've opted to stay home, where at least I could
> control what I ate.
>

"Donna B" <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I didn't know in September either until I found out I had one!! I'm trying
> to think of a T-shirt design for her as a T3. <G>

If you work out a good design, I'm in the market - I'd like to cherish mine
a bit more too : )

Nicky.

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A1c 10.5/5.5/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
100ug Thyroxine
95/72/72Kg