<!-- google_ad_section_start -->Meat and Fatal Coronary<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
Health Forums

Go Back   Health Forums > Diseases and Conditions > Diabetes > alt.support.diabetes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-21-2007, 06:38 AM
ironjustice
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Meat and Fatal Coronary

High Intake of Heme Iron Boosts Cardiovascular Risk in Diabetics

By David Douglas

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Jan 09 - A diet rich in heme iron and in red
meat may have adverse cardiovascular consequences in women with type 2
diabetes, Massachusetts-based researchers report in the January issue
of Diabetes Care.

It might be advisable that "patients with type 2 diabetes may limit
consumption of heme iron and red meat," lead investigator Dr. Lu Qi
told Reuters Health.

Dr. Qi of Harvard School of Public Health, Boston and colleagues note
that diabetes-related metabolic abnormalities may aggravate the
adverse effects of excess iron stores on cardiovascular health.
However, they say, little is known about whether iron consumption may
also affect coronary heart disease risk.

To investigate further, the researchers prospectively followed 6,161
women taking part in the Nurses' Health Study who reported a diagnosis
of type 2 diabetes. During 54,455 person-years of follow-up from 1980
through 2000, the team documented 550 incident cases of coronary heart
disease.

After adjustment for age and body mass index, high intakes of both
heme iron and red meat were associated with a significantly increased
risk of fatal coronary heart disease, coronary revascularization, and
total coronary heart disease.

Specifically, total coronary heart disease risk was 50% greater in
women with the highest intake of heme iron compared with those with
the lowest intake. Diet-associated risks were greater in
postmenopausal than in premenopausal women.

The researchers acknowledge that the findings don't prove that high
heme iron intake causes an increased risk of coronary heart disease in
diabetic patients, but cutting back on consumption might be prudent.

Diabetes Care 2007;30:101-106.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-21-2007, 06:38 AM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Meat and Fatal Coronary


"ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190343145.211895.33020@k35g2000prh.googlegro ups.com...
> High Intake of Heme Iron Boosts Cardiovascular Risk in Diabetics
>
> By David Douglas
>
> NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Jan 09 - A diet rich in heme iron and in red
> meat may have adverse cardiovascular consequences in women with type 2
> diabetes, Massachusetts-based researchers report in the January issue
> of Diabetes Care.



"may have"


>
> It might be advisable that "patients with type 2 diabetes may limit
> consumption of heme iron and red meat," lead investigator Dr. Lu Qi
> told Reuters Health.


" May limit"
>
> Dr. Qi of Harvard School of Public Health, Boston and colleagues note
> that diabetes-related metabolic abnormalities may aggravate the
> adverse effects of excess iron stores on cardiovascular health.
> However, they say, little is known about whether iron consumption may
> also affect coronary heart disease risk.


"may aggravate....however they saw little is known about whether iron
consumption may also affect coronary heart disease risk"


>
> To investigate further, the researchers prospectively followed 6,161
> women taking part in the Nurses' Health Study who reported a diagnosis
> of type 2 diabetes. During 54,455 person-years of follow-up from 1980
> through 2000, the team documented 550 incident cases of coronary heart
> disease.
>
> After adjustment for age and body mass index, high intakes of both
> heme iron and red meat were associated with a significantly increased
> risk of fatal coronary heart disease, coronary revascularization, and
> total coronary heart disease.
>
> Specifically, total coronary heart disease risk was 50% greater in
> women with the highest intake of heme iron compared with those with
> the lowest intake. Diet-associated risks were greater in
> postmenopausal than in premenopausal women.
>
> The researchers acknowledge that the findings don't prove that high
> heme iron intake causes an increased risk of coronary heart disease in
> diabetic patients, but cutting back on consumption might be prudent.


"findings don't prove"


zzzzzzz
>
> Diabetes Care 2007;30:101-106.
>
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
> http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!
> http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>



Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-21-2007, 01:19 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Meat and Fatal Coronary

It remains wise to eat less of everything, down to the optimal amount.

Be hungry...be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist


ironjustice wrote:
> High Intake of Heme Iron Boosts Cardiovascular Risk in Diabetics
>
> By David Douglas
>
> NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Jan 09 - A diet rich in heme iron and in red
> meat may have adverse cardiovascular consequences in women with type 2
> diabetes, Massachusetts-based researchers report in the January issue
> of Diabetes Care.
>
> It might be advisable that "patients with type 2 diabetes may limit
> consumption of heme iron and red meat," lead investigator Dr. Lu Qi
> told Reuters Health.
>
> Dr. Qi of Harvard School of Public Health, Boston and colleagues note
> that diabetes-related metabolic abnormalities may aggravate the
> adverse effects of excess iron stores on cardiovascular health.
> However, they say, little is known about whether iron consumption may
> also affect coronary heart disease risk.
>
> To investigate further, the researchers prospectively followed 6,161
> women taking part in the Nurses' Health Study who reported a diagnosis
> of type 2 diabetes. During 54,455 person-years of follow-up from 1980
> through 2000, the team documented 550 incident cases of coronary heart
> disease.
>
> After adjustment for age and body mass index, high intakes of both
> heme iron and red meat were associated with a significantly increased
> risk of fatal coronary heart disease, coronary revascularization, and
> total coronary heart disease.
>
> Specifically, total coronary heart disease risk was 50% greater in
> women with the highest intake of heme iron compared with those with
> the lowest intake. Diet-associated risks were greater in
> postmenopausal than in premenopausal women.
>
> The researchers acknowledge that the findings don't prove that high
> heme iron intake causes an increased risk of coronary heart disease in
> diabetic patients, but cutting back on consumption might be prudent.
>
> Diabetes Care 2007;30:101-106.
>
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
> http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!
> http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk


Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-21-2007, 03:51 PM
ferrous@paris.com
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Meat and Fatal Coronary

Using the same nurses study group another study looked more closely at
which animal food sources were linked to higher diabetes risk. Those
who ate red meat but not other meat sources had higher risk. Those who
gave blood had no difference in risk.

If red meat is the same factor in both studies it would be logical to
llook at what factor in addition to iron might be at work. The same
journal published an article showing that high sat fat of red meat was a
higher risk factor. This included that in deli type processed meats.

So as the study mr. justice shares wisely concludes, iron can not be
said to be a cause for diabetes but it would be wise to moderate red
meat for its iron and high sat fat.

Jesus ate a mediterranean diet.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-21-2007, 08:41 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Meat and Fatal Coronary


"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love16@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1190352980.579968.165670@k79g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> It remains wise to eat less of everything, down to the optimal amount.
>
> Be hungry...be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:




scuse me...but advocating hunger is sick....


>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist
>
>
> ironjustice wrote:
>> High Intake of Heme Iron Boosts Cardiovascular Risk in Diabetics
>>
>> By David Douglas
>>
>> NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Jan 09 - A diet rich in heme iron and in red
>> meat may have adverse cardiovascular consequences in women with type 2
>> diabetes, Massachusetts-based researchers report in the January issue
>> of Diabetes Care.
>>
>> It might be advisable that "patients with type 2 diabetes may limit
>> consumption of heme iron and red meat," lead investigator Dr. Lu Qi
>> told Reuters Health.
>>
>> Dr. Qi of Harvard School of Public Health, Boston and colleagues note
>> that diabetes-related metabolic abnormalities may aggravate the
>> adverse effects of excess iron stores on cardiovascular health.
>> However, they say, little is known about whether iron consumption may
>> also affect coronary heart disease risk.
>>
>> To investigate further, the researchers prospectively followed 6,161
>> women taking part in the Nurses' Health Study who reported a diagnosis
>> of type 2 diabetes. During 54,455 person-years of follow-up from 1980
>> through 2000, the team documented 550 incident cases of coronary heart
>> disease.
>>
>> After adjustment for age and body mass index, high intakes of both
>> heme iron and red meat were associated with a significantly increased
>> risk of fatal coronary heart disease, coronary revascularization, and
>> total coronary heart disease.
>>
>> Specifically, total coronary heart disease risk was 50% greater in
>> women with the highest intake of heme iron compared with those with
>> the lowest intake. Diet-associated risks were greater in
>> postmenopausal than in premenopausal women.
>>
>> The researchers acknowledge that the findings don't prove that high
>> heme iron intake causes an increased risk of coronary heart disease in
>> diabetic patients, but cutting back on consumption might be prudent.
>>
>> Diabetes Care 2007;30:101-106.
>>
>>
>> Who loves ya.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
>> http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>>
>>
>> Man Is A Herbivore!
>> http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>>
>>
>> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
>> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

>



Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-21-2007, 08:41 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Meat and Fatal Coronary

convicted neighbor <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > It remains wise to eat less of everything, down to the optimal amount.
> >
> > Be hungry...be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

>
> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

>
> scuse me...but advocating hunger is sick....


If I were sick, I would no longer be wonderfully hungry:

http://abchung.livejournal.com/7510.html

Instead, I am hungrier now than I have ever been in my life...

.... wonderfully hungry :-)

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-22-2007, 03:11 AM
Father Haskell
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Meat and Fatal Coronary

On Sep 21, 1:51 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

>
> > > It remains wise to eat less of everything, down to the optimal amount.

>
> > > Be hungry...be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

>
> > >http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

>
> > scuse me...but advocating hunger is sick....

>
> If I were sick, I would no longer be wonderfully hungry:
>
> http://abchung.livejournal.com/7510.html
>
> Instead, I am hungrier now than I have ever been in my life...
>
> ... wonderfully hungry :-)


So you're also hungrier than a shithouse rat?

Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Iron and Coronary Risk ironjustice@aol.com alt.support.diabetes 0 08-13-2007 09:22 PM
Re: Intensive statin therapy in acute coronary syndromes and stable coronary heart disease Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD alt.support.diabetes 0 08-12-2007 06:46 AM
The Other Pink Meat ATP* misc.fitness.weights 6 07-18-2007 04:58 PM
PCa & Meat: Another View Steve Jordan alt.support.cancer.prostate 22 05-22-2007 10:20 PM
The Fatal Fatal Hazards of Nociassociation Radium alt.support.arthritis 3 03-08-2007 03:10 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
     
   
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41