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Old 11-08-2006, 10:11 PM
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Default Merck diabetes drug wins federal approval

"The new drug's cost may disclose what it would c between $3 and $6 a
day."

In another release they said it would be $145 per 30 day supply.
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Merck diabetes drug wins federal approval

$3 a day would be $90 and 6 would be $180...so around $145-150 would sound
about right. Not sure what drug you are talking about though...


<coonskin@amestwp.net> wrote in message
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> "The new drug's cost may disclose what it would c between $3 and $6 a
> day."
>
> In another release they said it would be $145 per 30 day supply.



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Old 11-08-2006, 10:11 PM
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"Buhda" <akhanna@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:c2b%g.21905$ta3.16117@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> $3 a day would be $90 and 6 would be $180...so around $145-150 would sound
> about right. Not sure what drug you are talking about though...



Short take home messages :

1) Bayetta is good for T2 but has to be injected
2) Januvia is good for T2 , works along the lines of Bayetta but can be
taken as a pill
3) The price of Januvia is a bit "steep"




Bayetta is a synthetic incretin mimetic
Bayetta is made by the pharmaceutical industry
Bayetta was discovered in a lizard
It mimics an incretin like GLP-1 , Glucagon like protein 1

GLP-1 :
1) Stimulates Insulin secretion
2) Inhibits Glucagon secretion
3) Delays Gastric emptying

Bayetta is a protein so it has to be injected

The new drug , sitagliptin or Januvia, is an inhibitor of the enzyme that
breaks GLP-1 down (DPP-4 = Di Peptydyl Peptidase-4)
Sitagliptin is a small synthetic molecule made by the pharmaceutical
industry (Merck)

http://www.glucagon.com/mk-0431.htm

So sitagliptin will protect the GLP-1 you produce yourself from breakdown by
DPP-4



Article :

Diabetologia. 2006 Sep 26


Efficacy and safety of the dipeptidyl peptidase-4 inhibitor sitagliptin as
monotherapy in patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus.

AIMS/HYPOTHESIS: The aim of this study was to assess the efficacy and safety
of sitagliptin (MK-0431) as monotherapy in patients with type 2 diabetes
mellitus and inadequate glycaemic control (HbA(1c) >/=7% and </=10%) on
exercise and diet. METHODS: A total of 521 patients aged 27-76 years with a
mean baseline HbA(1c) of 8.1% were randomised in a 1:2:2 ratio to treatment
with placebo, sitagliptin 100 mg once daily, or sitagliptin 200 mg once
daily, for 18 weeks. The efficacy analysis was based on an
all-patients-treated population using an analysis of covariance, excluding
data obtained after glycaemic rescue. RESULTS: After 18 weeks, HbA(1c) was
significantly reduced with sitagliptin 100 mg and 200 mg compared with
placebo (placebo-subtracted HbA(1c) reduction: -0.60% and -0.48%,
respectively). Sitagliptin also significantly decreased fasting plasma
glucose relative to placebo. Patients with higher baseline HbA(1c) (>/=9%)
experienced greater placebo-subtracted HbA(1c) reductions with sitagliptin
(-1.20% for 100 mg and -1.04% for 200 mg) than those with HbA(1c) <8%
(-0.44% and -0.33%, respectively) or >/=8% to 8.9% (-0.61% and -0.39%,
respectively). Homeostasis model assessment beta cell function index and
fasting proinsulin:insulin ratio, markers of insulin secretion and beta cell
function, were significantly improved with sitagliptin. The incidence of
hypoglycaemia and gastrointestinal adverse experiences was not significantly
different between sitagliptin and placebo. Sitagliptin had a neutral effect
on body weight. CONCLUSIONS/INTERPRETATION: Sitagliptin significantly
improved glycaemic control and was well tolerated in patients with type 2
diabetes mellitus who had inadequate glycaemic control on exercise and diet.

PMID: 17001471


hth
Gys


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Old 11-08-2006, 10:11 PM
Larry
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Default Re: Merck diabetes drug wins federal approval

Note once again these clinical trials on Januvia set the HgbA1c
standard so high ie. over 8.0 so as to better assure a positive result.
This seems to run counter to our NG goals infered as below 6 for
acceptable control of T2. I wonder how positive results will be in T2s
trying Januvia with A1cs in the low 7s. ( like the Actos or Avandia
scenario?) My insurance wont cover Byetta...not sure about Januvia at
this time.

Larry
GysdeJongh wrote:
> "Buhda" <akhanna@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:c2b%g.21905$ta3.16117@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > $3 a day would be $90 and 6 would be $180...so around $145-150 would sound
> > about right. Not sure what drug you are talking about though...

>
>
> Short take home messages :
>
> 1) Bayetta is good for T2 but has to be injected
> 2) Januvia is good for T2 , works along the lines of Bayetta but can be
> taken as a pill
> 3) The price of Januvia is a bit "steep"
>
>
>
>
> Bayetta is a synthetic incretin mimetic
> Bayetta is made by the pharmaceutical industry
> Bayetta was discovered in a lizard
> It mimics an incretin like GLP-1 , Glucagon like protein 1
>
> GLP-1 :
> 1) Stimulates Insulin secretion
> 2) Inhibits Glucagon secretion
> 3) Delays Gastric emptying
>
> Bayetta is a protein so it has to be injected
>
> The new drug , sitagliptin or Januvia, is an inhibitor of the enzyme that
> breaks GLP-1 down (DPP-4 = Di Peptydyl Peptidase-4)
> Sitagliptin is a small synthetic molecule made by the pharmaceutical
> industry (Merck)
>
> http://www.glucagon.com/mk-0431.htm
>
> So sitagliptin will protect the GLP-1 you produce yourself from breakdown by
> DPP-4
>
>
>
> Article :
>
> Diabetologia. 2006 Sep 26
>
>
> Efficacy and safety of the dipeptidyl peptidase-4 inhibitor sitagliptin as
> monotherapy in patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus.
>
> AIMS/HYPOTHESIS: The aim of this study was to assess the efficacy and safety
> of sitagliptin (MK-0431) as monotherapy in patients with type 2 diabetes
> mellitus and inadequate glycaemic control (HbA(1c) >/=7% and </=10%) on
> exercise and diet. METHODS: A total of 521 patients aged 27-76 years with a
> mean baseline HbA(1c) of 8.1% were randomised in a 1:2:2 ratio to treatment
> with placebo, sitagliptin 100 mg once daily, or sitagliptin 200 mg once
> daily, for 18 weeks. The efficacy analysis was based on an
> all-patients-treated population using an analysis of covariance, excluding
> data obtained after glycaemic rescue. RESULTS: After 18 weeks, HbA(1c) was
> significantly reduced with sitagliptin 100 mg and 200 mg compared with
> placebo (placebo-subtracted HbA(1c) reduction: -0.60% and -0.48%,
> respectively). Sitagliptin also significantly decreased fasting plasma
> glucose relative to placebo. Patients with higher baseline HbA(1c) (>/=9%)
> experienced greater placebo-subtracted HbA(1c) reductions with sitagliptin
> (-1.20% for 100 mg and -1.04% for 200 mg) than those with HbA(1c) <8%
> (-0.44% and -0.33%, respectively) or >/=8% to 8.9% (-0.61% and -0.39%,
> respectively). Homeostasis model assessment beta cell function index and
> fasting proinsulin:insulin ratio, markers of insulin secretion and beta cell
> function, were significantly improved with sitagliptin. The incidence of
> hypoglycaemia and gastrointestinal adverse experiences was not significantly
> different between sitagliptin and placebo. Sitagliptin had a neutral effect
> on body weight. CONCLUSIONS/INTERPRETATION: Sitagliptin significantly
> improved glycaemic control and was well tolerated in patients with type 2
> diabetes mellitus who had inadequate glycaemic control on exercise and diet.
>
> PMID: 17001471
>
>
> hth
> Gys


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Old 11-08-2006, 10:11 PM
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GysdeJongh <jongh711@planet.nl> wrote:
: "Buhda" <akhanna@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
: news:c2b%g.21905$ta3.16117@tornado.texas.rr.com...
: > $3 a day would be $90 and 6 would be $180...so around $145-150 would sound
: > about right. Not sure what drug you are talking about though...


: Short take home messages :

: 1) Bayetta is good for T2 but has to be injected
: 2) Januvia is good for T2 , works along the lines of Bayetta but can be
: taken as a pill
: 3) The price of Januvia is a bit "steep"




: Bayetta is a synthetic incretin mimetic
: Bayetta is made by the pharmaceutical industry
: Bayetta was discovered in a lizard
: It mimics an incretin like GLP-1 , Glucagon like protein 1

: GLP-1 :
: 1) Stimulates Insulin secretion
: 2) Inhibits Glucagon secretion
: 3) Delays Gastric emptying

: Bayetta is a protein so it has to be injected

: The new drug , sitagliptin or Januvia, is an inhibitor of the enzyme that
: breaks GLP-1 down (DPP-4 = Di Peptydyl Peptidase-4)
: Sitagliptin is a small synthetic molecule made by the pharmaceutical
: industry (Merck)

: http://www.glucagon.com/mk-0431.htm

: So sitagliptin will protect the GLP-1 you produce yourself from breakdown by
: DPP-4

According to my endo, januvia, also will not help with weight loss.

Wendy


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