Merck's Latest Drug Scam a Worthless Diabetes Drug

http://www.mercola.com/2006/nov/4/me...betes-drug.htm

Merck's Latest Drug Scam a Worthless Diabetes Drug

The FDA has approved Januvia, the first drug in a new class of
diabetes medications.

An FDA official stated that it would provide "an important
alternative" to current treatments for type 2 diabetes. A second drug of the
same type, Galvus, is in the final stages of FDA review.

Januvia and Galvus work by enhancing natural body processes that
keeps blood glucose at a safe level. The drugs block the action of an enzyme
called dipeptidyl peptidase 4, or DPP-4. DPP-4 inactivates the hormones that
stimulate the production of insulin.

Because the drugs functions only when blood sugar levels rise,
it does not appear to cause the plunges in blood sugar associated with other
diabetes treatments such as insulin.

Januvia was clinically tested on over 2,700 patients in studies
lasting from 12 weeks to over a year. Side effects included respiratory
infection, sore throat and diarrhea.


USA Today October 17, 2006

MarketWatch.com October 17, 2006



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Dr. Mercola's Comment:


In its very finite wisdom, the FDA has another probably useless,
and maybe dangerous drug called Januvia, coincidently marketed in America by
Merck. And, pending final FDA approvals, Novartis may launch a second DPP-4
inhibitor, Galvus, by year's end.

No doubt, that rosy news about new diabetes drug in the
pipeline contributed to Merck and Novartis stocks climbing by about a
half-dollar. Of course, that'll happen with any drug costing patients close
to $5 per pill, per day as Januvia does, especially since 17 million
Americans have full-blown diabetes, and over 16 million Americans now have
pre-diabetes. So 12 percent of the U.S. population now suffers from some
type of diabetes.

NEW FORUM

Many of you may not realize that we now have a new forum
where health care professionals and others can interact.

Dr. Ron D'Agostino from L'Anse,Michigan posted the
following intersesting comment on this article:

Although I agree completely that drugs are useless, and
that any treatment of type 2 diabetes besides diet and exercise is enabling
and therefore worse than nothing, non-physicians should realize:

1) Dr Mercola's patient population is enviably
anomolous;

2) most patients do not go to their doctor to ask how to
prevent type 2 diabetes, either we find it or they already have it. They
come to us with a problem they want solved in 10 min without effort on their
part, and that their "insurance" will cover. They expect this to occur and
if it does not, they are nonplused. When they learn that they have to eat
right and exercise, and then learn what that means speciffically, they
refuse. They want a pill, and it better not be >$20/mon co-pay.

If you argue with them they will usually leave the
practice. If you try to do it over the course of tx, say years, a little at
a time, the effect is so incrementally small -v- what you know a full blown
natural treatment would provide that I just give up. There's not enough
satifaction for me to offset the time and lost money of cajoling/patient
loss.

I am starting to believe that I'm the one with a problem.
These pts know eating like pigs and not exercising causes their health
problems and shortened life spans. They have simply made a choice with
which I do not agree. I think they are for the most part aware that the
pills may help a little given that they are not going to change.

So I, like most of the profession and the drug companies
catering to them, will ask once or twice if they want health or enablement,
and go with their choice. At least untill I can stand it no longer and flip
to diet dictocrat.

Such is the schizophrenia of trying to act on
rationalization.

MY RESPONSE

I could not disagree more strongly with Dr. D's post. Type
2 diabetes is virtaully 100% curable with proper diet and exericse. I have
personally mentored many hundreds of people through this process.

Dr. D you are GIVING UP on them and not giving them a
chance. Nearly all of those that you are giving up on hae significant
psychoemotional issues that prevent them from applying this nearly universal
effective strategies.

Patients should certainly have freedom of choice, but I do
not believe that
offering them an expensive "magic pill" that is
questionably effective at best,

a.. in no way shape or form addresses the cause of the
disease, and
b.. has a serious chance of actually causing more
problems than it solives
is truly serving your patients.

Dr. D you have capitulated and surrendered to the drug
model and doing your patients a great disservice by not offering them an
example of what is possilble and providing them with tools to achieve it.

If they still choose the easy way there are plenty of
ignorant physicians who will gladly cooperate with them and prescribe these
deadly and ineffective nostrums till the cows come home.



Diabetes is an artifact of poor lifestyle choices, and it
is curable, although not with a drug. Even the New England Journal of
Medicine acknowledged five years ago that a healthier diet -- ideally based
on your body's unique metabolic type -- and an exercise program can
completely eradicate diabetes, an artifact of poor lifestyle choices.

Without exercise, I would be a type 2 diabetic. Running 20
miles a week seems to keep my blood sugar in a nearly ideal range.

When I reduce my miles to five or less, my blood sugar
gradually rises to the diabetic range. One does not have to run 20 miles per
week, but most diabetics will benefit from one hour of intense exercise at
least five times per week, and more if their blood sugar is currently out of
control.

Jan Drew wrote in message ...

>. . . .(worthless crap snipped). . .


Little bit of nipped worthless crap repeated below

" . . .Although I agree completely that drugs are useless, and that any
treatment of type 2 diabetes besides diet and exercise is enabling
and therefore worse than nothing,. . ."

Jan Drew is a notorious netkook. She makes Betty Martini sound sensible
(gasp!)

Regards
Old Al

"oldal4865" <oldal4865@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4rj9j8Friiv9U1@mid.individual.net...

>
> Jan Drew is a notorious netkook. She makes Betty Martini sound sensible
> (gasp!)
>

Pharma troll surfaces

oldal4865 wrote:
> Jan Drew wrote in message ...
>
> >. . . .(worthless crap snipped). . .
>
> Little bit of nipped worthless crap repeated below
>
> " . . .Although I agree completely that drugs are useless, and that any
> treatment of type 2 diabetes besides diet and exercise is enabling
> and therefore worse than nothing,. . ."
>
> Jan Drew is a notorious netkook. She makes Betty Martini sound sensible
> (gasp!)

Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

In truth, the key to curing type 2 diabetes is permanently losing the
visceral adipose tissue (VAT):

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

How to stop being lost:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...058da12bb3f3d?

May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating (unless
you unwisely choose to curse HIM) dear neighbor Al whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

JOHN wrote in message ...
>
>"oldal4865" <oldal4865@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:4rj9j8Friiv9U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>>
>> Jan Drew is a notorious netkook. She makes Betty Martini sound
sensible
>> (gasp!)
>>
>
>Pharma troll surfaces
>
>

"John" is another notorious netkook. She is beyond the aluminum foil
beanie stage and close to hearing voices. She is even more notorious than
Jan Drew.

Another quote from their sources:

". . .Type 2 diabetes is virtually 100% curable with proper diet and
exericse (sic) . I have personally mentored many hundreds of people through
this process. . . ."

Diabetes is a genetic disease, progressive and 100% non-curable unless you
replace your defective pancreas with somebody else's healthy pancreas.

Regards
Old Al

oldal4865 wrote:
> <snip>
>
> ". . .Type 2 diabetes is virtually 100% curable with proper diet and
> exericse (sic) . I have personally mentored many hundreds of people through
> this process. . . ."
>
> Diabetes is a genetic disease, progressive and 100% non-curable unless you
> replace your defective pancreas with somebody else's healthy pancreas.

Actually, this would not cure type 2 diabetes as the new pancreas would
be promptly destroyed because of inflammatory cytokines from the
visceral adipose tissue (VAT) and because of the need to overcome the
insulin resistance caused by these same VAT cytokines.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor All whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Vanquished CoonSkin, after fleeing AUK in dread, squealed:
> Regarding a transplant in type 2 diabetes:
>
> "Actually, this would not cure type 2 diabetes as the new pancreas would
> be promptly destroyed because of inflammatory cytokines from the
> visceral adipose tissue (VAT) and because of the need to overcome the
> insulin resistance caused by these same VAT cytokines."
>
> Actually this simple minded statement reflects not keeping up with the
> literature, failing to be complete, and driven by an agenda not based in
> science. It is ample reason, once again, to safely ignore its source.

Actually, the truth is self-evident here.

Bottomline: You remain untruthful.

You also remain vanquished:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose unwisely
to curse HIM) dear neighbor CoonSkin whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

Vanquished and disease-stricken CoonSkin whined:
> "Actually, the truth is self-evident here.
>
> Bottomline: You remain untruthful.
>
> You also remain vanquished:"
>
> As mentioned before, ample evidence once again to ignore the source as
> to science claims because of not keeping up with the literature, being
> incomplete, being driven by a non-science agenda; in short spinning the
> truth. All of which one can predict we shall see additional examples
> shortly.

Yours is the embarrassing behavior of the vanquished so moved by the
intercessory prayers of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose unwisely
to curse HIM) dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:08:15 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.

Oh yeah?

God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!

<waiting>

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]

Wait... oil reserves?

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

>Oh yeah?

You're arguing with a known kook and troll. You _do_ know what happens
when you wrestle with a pig?


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.
>
> Oh yeah?
>
> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!

The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM) dear neighbor Mark whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

"oldal4865" <oldal4865@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4rlt0vFrtm2hU1@mid.individual.net...
>

> "John" is another notorious netkook. She is beyond the aluminum foil
> beanie stage and close to hearing voices. She is even more notorious
> than
> Jan Drew.

John's are usually male where I come from, so, so much for your opinion

> Another quote from their sources:
>
> ". . .Type 2 diabetes is virtually 100% curable with proper diet and
> exericse (sic) . I have personally mentored many hundreds of people
> through
> this process. . . ."
>
> Diabetes is a genetic disease, progressive and 100% non-curable unless
> you
> replace your defective pancreas with somebody else's healthy pancreas.
>

Pharma drivel from a troll

http://www.whale.to/a/smith.html

funny name old al, but I'd keep anonymous if I was talking such bollocks

"Gary Woods" <garyusenet@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:npvbl29ehmtm7kuc9m36al6e98kdm9opn4@4ax.com...
> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>
>>Oh yeah?
>
> You're arguing with a known kook and troll. You _do_ know what happens
> when you wrestle with a pig?
>
>
> Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at
> home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
> Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Yup, you won't win, you just piss off the pig, and you both get dirty.......

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:26:24 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:08:15 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.

Wait, does that mean I was supposed to die _before_ posting that curse of
god the other day? I can never keep these things straight.

> Oh yeah?
>
> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>
> <waiting>

So, are you dead yet?
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:06:09 -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:26:24 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:08:15 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>> Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.
>
> Wait, does that mean I was supposed to die _before_ posting that curse of
> god the other day? I can never keep these things straight.

Not sure. And, come to think, do we have to curse GOD or will cursing God
be sufficient? What if you curse gOd?

>> Oh yeah?
>>
>> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>>
>> <waiting>
>
> So, are you dead yet?

Well, it *has been awful quiet around here today...

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]

Wait... oil reserves?

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:03:47 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.
>>
>> Oh yeah?
>>
>> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>
> The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:

I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that? Were you lying?

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]

Wait... oil reserves?

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.
> >>
> >> Oh yeah?
> >>
> >> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
> >
> > The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

> I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that?

Name-calling is not cursing.

> Were you lying?

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM) dear neighbor Mark whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:06:09 -0800, Frank Mayhar sat in thee Comfee
Chaire, and didst finally confess, after taking Muche Tea:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:26:24 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:08:15 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>> Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their
>>> curse on Usenet.
>
> Wait, does that mean I was supposed to die _before_ posting that curse
> of god the other day? I can never keep these things straight.
>
>> Oh yeah?
>>
>> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>>
>> <waiting>
>
> So, are you dead yet?

I am! I'm poasting from Beyond, y'see.

--
__________________________________________________ ______________________
Hail Eris!
Demon Prince of Absurdity

"And no, I did not have sex with my son. But if I did I certainly
wouldn't tell you. Something so beautiful and precious should be kept
private." -- Kathy L. Mosesian, or possibly not really her, confesses
she may be a liar and committer of incest with her own son, in MID:
<cfcd3f4660694e3afeaadaa2723e9ab1@msgid.frell.ther emailer.net>

The reporter asked Colin Powell (or George Bush), "What proof do you
have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?"
He replied, "We kept the receipts." -- Bill Hicks

"They thought I was fair game. I was an instrument of purpose to achieve
their desires and not 100 percent real and ALSO that they had me by the
short curlies because I thought that the world revolved around them and
therefore I think that I am fair game and rightly so. If they want to
play dirty, I get to too. It's not a one-way street. I will use the
physcial strength that I have over them, my superior 5'7-3/4" height
advantage, the boxing moves I paid to learn, the suprise of pussyfooting
up to them with their back to me in a public place 18 1/2 years after
the fact and thus not only do will they not know that I am but a pica's
distance away from them, but that I even exist on earth." -- Chris Tsao
is secretly John Wentzky's psychic twin. MID:
<1161246083.152300.195760@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>

Looney Maroon nominee for August 2006 Johnny D Wentzky foamed:
"You never asked someone who goes into areas of the internet that are
only for adults who has an underage id somehow or another if they are a
cop posing as an underage person online?
I guess lots of people just don't watch dateline or read stories much.
Why don;t you go to pervertedjustice,com and see what they do. They are
awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they lied to membners of the
public.
They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they posed as an
underage person and agreed to do all sorts of sex acts wioth adult
males, and they are adults posing as teenager themselves. They make
themsleves into liars by falsely impersonating underage persons and by
not fuilfilling the words they tell the victims online in their chats.
Why don't you read it where they tell these victims of their deceit
about how they have been with grown men and such? Why don't you read it
where they say, "That would be cool." after someone makes an advance
towards an adult who is posing as a teenager? And, where they agree to
meet the person, etc.
Lost control, didn't you?
Is that why you feel as if you need to lie so much now? I see where lots
of these false impersonation games are not sticking. They feel as if
they can lie and then order the victims to get counseling in the
gayblade, governmental, pro-choice tax leech counseling centers. They
are doing nothing more than usury and fraud in many cases." -- Wentzky
almost comes out of the closet as a pedo/ephebophile in MID:
<H%%Eg.28916$Uq1.22411@bignews6.bellsouth.net>

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:08:38 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.
>> >>
>> >> Oh yeah?
>> >>
>> >> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>> >
>> > The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
>>
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
>> I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that?
>
> Name-calling is not cursing.

Okay then, how do I "curse" this god guy of yours?

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]

Wait... oil reserves?

Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh yeah?
> >> >>
> >> >> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
> >> >
> >> > The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
> >>
> >> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> >> I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that?
> >
> > Name-calling is not cursing.
>
> Okay then, how do I "curse" this god guy of yours?

You remind me of the jumper standing on the bridge overlooking a steep
precipice asking bystanders for instructions on how to jump after
standing at the edge and fully appreciating the depth of the fall.

Yes, just as the jumper now imagines that the edge of the bridge has
moved miles away, you imagine that you have "never seen goal posts move
so fast they experience time dilation... "

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...53708d41ab42c?

Yes, you are feeling the hand of GOD on your life because of the
intercessory prayers of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ lifting up
all those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose unwisely
to curse HIM) dear neighbor Mark whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 04:37:58 +0000, Cardinal Snarky of the Fannish
Inquisition wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:06:09 -0800, Frank Mayhar sat in thee Comfee
> Chaire, and didst finally confess, after taking Muche Tea:
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:26:24 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 07:08:15 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>> Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their
>>>> curse on Usenet.
>>
>> Wait, does that mean I was supposed to die _before_ posting that curse
>> of god the other day? I can never keep these things straight.
>>
>>> Oh yeah?
>>>
>>> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>>>
>>> <waiting>
>>
>> So, are you dead yet?
>
> I am! I'm poasting from Beyond, y'see.

No wonder your IP is all zeros...

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]

Wait... oil reserves?

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 04:29:14 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oh yeah?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>> >> >
>> >> > The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
>> >>
>> >> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> >
>> >> I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that?
>> >
>> > Name-calling is not cursing.
>>
>> Okay then, how do I "curse" this god guy of yours?
>
> You remind me

<snip>

Dammit, get to the point!

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]

Wait... oil reserves?

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:xfKdnSEfKuau58vYnZ2dnUVZ_h6dnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:03:47 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their
>>> > curse on Usenet.
>>>
>>> Oh yeah?
>>>
>>> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>>
>> The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
>
> I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that? Were you lying?
>
of course-that is all he knows to do.
he is a liar like all christ stains.

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love3@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1163334554.247127.238230@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting
>> >> >> > their curse on Usenet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oh yeah?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>> >> >
>> >> > The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
>> >>
>> >> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> >
>> >> I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that?
>> >
>> > Name-calling is not cursing.
>>
>> Okay then, how do I "curse" this god guy of yours?
>
> You remind me of the jumper standing on the bridge overlooking a steep
> precipice asking bystanders for instructions on how to jump after
> standing at the edge and fully appreciating the depth of the fall.
>
> Yes, just as the jumper now imagines that the edge of the bridge has
> moved miles away, you imagine that you have "never seen goal posts move
> so fast they experience time dilation... "
>
> so-no answer dumbfuck?
fuck you and fuck your god-hmm-im still alive-imagine that!

Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Oh yeah?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >> >
> >> >> I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that?
> >> >
> >> > Name-calling is not cursing.
> >>
> >> Okay then, how do I "curse" this god guy of yours?
> >
> > You remind me of the jumper standing on the bridge overlooking a steep
> > precipice asking bystanders for instructions on how to jump after
> > standing at the edge and fully appreciating the depth of the fall.
> >
> > Yes, just as the jumper now imagines that the edge of the bridge has
> > moved miles away, you imagine that you have "never seen goal posts move
> > so fast they experience time dilation... "
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...53708d41ab42c?
> >
> > Yes, you are feeling the hand of GOD on your life because of the
> > intercessory prayers of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ lifting up
> > all those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose unwisely
> > to curse HIM) dear neighbor Mark whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Dammit, get to the point!

In a nutshell, those who ask for instruction on how to curse GOD
already know how to do it.

In a second nutshell, those who pray that GOD bless you are not going
to undo the blessing by telling you how to curse GOD.

May GOD in HIS infinite mercy and grace keep your heart beating (unless
you unwisely choose to curse HIM) dear neighbor Mark whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:24:45 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting their curse on Usenet.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Oh yeah?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> >> >
>> >> >> I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that?
>> >> >
>> >> > Name-calling is not cursing.
>> >>
>> >> Okay then, how do I "curse" this god guy of yours?
>> >
>> > You remind me of the jumper standing on the bridge overlooking a steep
>> > precipice asking bystanders for instructions on how to jump after
>> > standing at the edge and fully appreciating the depth of the fall.
>> >
>> > Yes, just as the jumper now imagines that the edge of the bridge has
>> > moved miles away, you imagine that you have "never seen goal posts move
>> > so fast they experience time dilation... "
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...53708d41ab42c?
>> >
>> > Yes, you are feeling the hand of GOD on your life because of the
>> > intercessory prayers of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ lifting up
>> > all those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>> >
>> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>> >
>> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose unwisely
>> > to curse HIM) dear neighbor Mark whom I love unconditionally.
>>
>> Dammit, get to the point!
>
> In a nutshell, those who ask for instruction on how to curse GOD
> already know how to do it.

Okay, then, "Curse you god!"

How's dat?

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential
of this kind of world:.... a world in which
oil reserves are controlled by radicals in order
to extract blackmail from the West..." [George Bush]

Wait... oil reserves?

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:dbGdnSih2rNIO8rYnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:24:45 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> >> > Vanquished Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before
>>> >> >> >> > posting their curse on Usenet.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Oh yeah?
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > The name-calling simply confirms that you remain lost:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> I thought I was supposed to die before I could post that?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Name-calling is not cursing.
>>> >>
>>> >> Okay then, how do I "curse" this god guy of yours?
>>> >
>>> > You remind me of the jumper standing on the bridge overlooking a steep
>>> > precipice asking bystanders for instructions on how to jump after
>>> > standing at the edge and fully appreciating the depth of the fall.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, just as the jumper now imagines that the edge of the bridge has
>>> > moved miles away, you imagine that you have "never seen goal posts
>>> > move
>>> > so fast they experience time dilation... "
>>> >
>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...53708d41ab42c?
>>> >
>>> > Yes, you are feeling the hand of GOD on your life because of the
>>> > intercessory prayers of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ lifting up
>>> > all those who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>>> >
>>> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>>> >
>>> > May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you choose
>>> > unwisely
>>> > to curse HIM) dear neighbor Mark whom I love unconditionally.
>>>
>>> Dammit, get to the point!
>>
>> In a nutshell, those who ask for instruction on how to curse GOD
>> already know how to do it.
>
> Okay, then, "Curse you god!"
>
> How's dat?
>
> --
god damnit.
there it is-and i am still alive.

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:24:45 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Has Frothed:

> In a nutshell, those who ask for instruction on how to curse GOD
> already know how to do it.

In a nutshell, how many patients do you see a week Dr. Chung?


--
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004

COOSN-266-06-25794

Meat Plow wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > In a nutshell, those who ask for instruction on how to curse GOD
> > already know how to do it.
>
> In a nutshell, how many patients do you see a week Dr. Chung?

As many as GOD wills.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM) dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:46:22 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Has Frothed:

> Meat Plow wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > In a nutshell, those who ask for instruction on how to curse GOD
>> > already know how to do it.
>>
>> In a nutshell, how many patients do you see a week Dr. Chung?
>
> As many as GOD wills.

My bet is none.


--
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004

COOSN-266-06-25794

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:TJKdnYaspJ0dk8rYnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 18:08:38 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Proof of GOD: Those who choose to curse GOD die before posting
>>> >> > their curse on Usenet.
>>> >>
>>> >> Oh yeah?
>>> >>
>>> >> God is fucking fuck face of an asshole!
>>> >
>>>