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Old 01-02-2008, 09:18 AM
ieimfmemf@lycos.com
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Default M'I-5,Per secution , th eir meth ods a nd tacti cs

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-= MI5: methods and tactics. -=
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They deliberately set out to harass in a. way that would resemble the
symptoms of schizophrenia, so that any report of the. harassment would be
taken as indicating mental illness and "treated" accordingly. They. never
show their own faces; they only work through proxies, in the. media, among
the public, and by manipulating people in the workplace. Since they do. not
declare. their identity there is no evidence to initiate legal action
against the security services or anyone else. The. only people you can
prosecute are the proxies and they will deny knowledge of any. conspiracy.

By repeatedly humiliating and abusing the victim, they. induced mental
illness. This is the worst form of. human rights violation: making any
statement of the harassment appear to be symptomatic of. the illness which
they cause through the harassment. That this can happen, and people. collude
by silence, is absolutely. horrifying.

From the beginning in. June 1990 they set a pattern of harassment which they
have followed without change for the last six. years. They paint me as a
"threat" to which people must "react" (shades of Nazi. persecution methods),
while simultaneously portraying. their hate campaign on which they have
spent over a million pounds. of taxpayers’ money as a "joke".

The MI5 that breaks the law with the silent complicity of the. police is the
same agency that is now seeking a. role in the fight against crime. Perhaps
the real joke is the proposed involvement in the implementation. of justice
of an organisation which commits criminal acts with secrecy. and disinterest
for the legal. process.

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Old 01-03-2008, 08:45 PM
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Mack how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
different identities and with slight changes to the subject line? I
have tried asking him nicely to go elsewhere and not so nicely. I may
as well piss into the wind.


On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:08:09 +0000 (UTC), ieimfmemf@lycos.com wrote:

>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>-= MI5: methods and tactics. -=
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the serenity to accept the people I cannot change
the courage to change the one that I can
the wisdom to know that it is me
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Old 01-03-2008, 11:42 PM
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"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
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> Mack how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line? I
> have tried asking him nicely to go elsewhere and not so nicely. I may
> as well piss into the wind.


Kill all those lovely people who crosspost answers to him or about him
For some reason I don't get his posts, only the 5,000 who believe they need
to answer him!
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:08:09 +0000 (UTC), ieimfmemf@lycos.com wrote:
>
>>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>-= MI5: methods and tactics. -=
>>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

> --
>
> Grandpa Chuck
> -ô¿ô-
> ~
>
> Please grant me:
> the serenity to accept the people I cannot change
> the courage to change the one that I can
> the wisdom to know that it is me



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Old 01-03-2008, 11:42 PM
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In article <gpgqn35kuj6avlsbscalqd30auhdt8o02r@4ax.com>, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

> how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line?


MI5's spam forced me into learning how to use my newsreader's filtering
of all groups with a regular expression.

The regular expression I use is "M.I.5" against the subject header. It
works. It gets rid of all his posts in all groups.

I believe you have that ability on your newsreader. From
http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.php

"You can find a complete writeup of how Agent uses Regular Expressions
in the Help file: Help | Index | Regular Expressions."

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Old 01-04-2008, 01:02 AM
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"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
news:gpgqn35kuj6avlsbscalqd30auhdt8o02r@4ax.com...
> Mack how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line? I
> have tried asking him nicely to go elsewhere and not so nicely. I may
> as well piss into the wind.


He is hitting all the newsgroups too. Not just this one.


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Old 01-04-2008, 01:02 AM
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"Grandpa Chuck" <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote in message
news:gpgqn35kuj6avlsbscalqd30auhdt8o02r@4ax.com...
> Mack how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line? I
> have tried asking him nicely to go elsewhere and not so nicely. I may
> as well piss into the wind.
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:08:09 +0000 (UTC), ieimfmemf@lycos.com wrote:
>
>>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>-= MI5: methods and tactics. -=
>>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

> --
>
> Grandpa Chuck


He's apparantly lost the two accounts he's been posting from lately.
That site ignores complaints about spam, but someone complained
about excessive multiposting there, and they pay attention to that.


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Old 01-04-2008, 03:58 AM
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On Jan 3, 12:21�pm, Grandpa Chuck <GrandpaCh...@B4me.org> wrote:
> how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line? I
> have tried asking him nicely to go elsewhere and not so nicely. I may
> as well piss into the wind.


Unfortunately this character has been around for a long time and posts
in just about every newsgroup I've ever read. The good thing is it is
rare and months go by before they let him out of the padded cell to do
more spamming. The other good thing is that his posts are all similar
so they line up in a row if you view posts by alphabetical order.
Skippign over them is a breeze.

Kurt
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:13 AM
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Grandpa Chuck wrote:
> Mack how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line? I
> have tried asking him nicely to go elsewhere and not so nicely. I may
> as well piss into the wind.
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:08:09 +0000 (UTC), ieimfmemf@lycos.com wrote:
>
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>> -= MI5: methods and tactics. -=
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=




I found this filter in another group

{M[,'` \.\-]I[,'` \.\-]5.p.}

I did a copy and paste in all of the groups that I read. So far it
seems to be working


BD
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:09 AM
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"John101" <john.101a@yahoo.invalid> wrote in message
news:030120081517494198%john.101a@yahoo.invalid...
> In article <gpgqn35kuj6avlsbscalqd30auhdt8o02r@4ax.com>, Grandpa Chuck
> <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
>
>> how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
>> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line?

>
> MI5's spam forced me into learning how to use my newsreader's filtering
> of all groups with a regular expression.
>
> The regular expression I use is "M.I.5" against the subject header. It
> works. It gets rid of all his posts in all groups.
>
> I believe you have that ability on your newsreader. From
> http://www.forteinc.com/agent/faq.php
>
> "You can find a complete writeup of how Agent uses Regular Expressions
> in the Help file: Help | Index | Regular Expressions."


Until he morphs it again. Also, not all of use Agent. I personally hate it,
and use either OE, WLM, or Thunderbird until I find one that combines some
of the functionality of Agent with a better UI, layout, and doesn't have the
other things that I dislike.

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Old 01-04-2008, 10:10 AM
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"DarkSentinel" <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote:
> "John101" <john.101a@yahoo.invalid> wrote in message
> > <GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:
> >
> >> how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
> >> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line?

> > [ . . . ]


When I see he's on a flood splurge, I sort alphabetically by subject. Makes
it easier for me to skip his posts, without having to learn any new
software.

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Old 01-05-2008, 05:58 PM
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"Barking dog" <Noaddress@notavailable.com> wrote in message
news:A9jfj.2392$jJ5.903@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net ...
> Grandpa Chuck wrote:
>> Mack how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
>> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line? I
>> have tried asking him nicely to go elsewhere and not so nicely. I may
>> as well piss into the wind.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:08:09 +0000 (UTC), ieimfmemf@lycos.com wrote:
>>
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>> -= MI5: methods and tactics. -=
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>
>
>
> I found this filter in another group
>
> {M[,'` \.\-]I[,'` \.\-]5.p.}
>
> I did a copy and paste in all of the groups that I read. So far it seems
> to be working
>
>
> BD


For which newsreader?


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Old 01-05-2008, 07:06 PM
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 11:29:52 -0600, "Robert Miles"
<robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:

>
>"Barking dog" <Noaddress@notavailable.com> wrote in message
>news:A9jfj.2392$jJ5.903@newssvr11.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Grandpa Chuck wrote:
>>> Mack how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
>>> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line? I
>>> have tried asking him nicely to go elsewhere and not so nicely. I may
>>> as well piss into the wind.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:08:09 +0000 (UTC), ieimfmemf@lycos.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>> -= MI5: methods and tactics. -=
>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>>
>>
>>
>> I found this filter in another group
>>
>> {M[,'` \.\-]I[,'` \.\-]5.p.}
>>
>> I did a copy and paste in all of the groups that I read. So far it seems
>> to be working
>>
>>
>> BD

>
>For which newsreader?


From a peek at the headers, it looks like he's using Thunderbird.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:06 PM
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Robert Miles wrote:
> "Barking dog" <Noaddress@notavailable.com> wrote in message
> news:A9jfj.2392$jJ5.903@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net ...
>> Grandpa Chuck wrote:
>>> Mack how to we rid ourselves of this crap when he keeps posting under
>>> different identities and with slight changes to the subject line? I
>>> have tried asking him nicely to go elsewhere and not so nicely. I may
>>> as well piss into the wind.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:08:09 +0000 (UTC), ieimfmemf@lycos.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>> -= MI5: methods and tactics. -=
>>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>>
>>
>> I found this filter in another group
>>
>> {M[,'` \.\-]I[,'` \.\-]5.p.}
>>
>> I did a copy and paste in all of the groups that I read. So far it seems
>> to be working
>>
>>
>> BD

>
> For which newsreader?
>
>


I use Thunderbird, however it may be worth trying it with any news
reader you use. it may not help but it couldn't hurt.

BD
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:49 PM
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In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 4 Jan 2008 01:46:15 -0800 in Msg.#
<Ffnfj.164$lr6.108@newsfe06.lga>, "DarkSentinel"
<darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote:

> Until he morphs it again. Also, not all of use Agent. I personally hate it,
> and use either OE, WLM, or Thunderbird until I find one that combines some
> of the functionality of Agent with a better UI, layout, and doesn't have the
> other things that I dislike.


Just curious but what is it about the UI etc. of Agent do you dislike? And,
what version of Agent's UI & layout, etc. do you dislike?

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Old 01-06-2008, 12:10 PM
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"DonnaB shallotpeel" <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 4 Jan 2008 01:46:15 -0800 in Msg.#
> <Ffnfj.164$lr6.108@newsfe06.lga>, "DarkSentinel"
> <darkmungesentinel@munge.charter.munge.net> wrote:
>
>> Until he morphs it again. Also, not all of use Agent. I personally hate
>> it,
>> and use either OE, WLM, or Thunderbird until I find one that combines
>> some
>> of the functionality of Agent with a better UI, layout, and doesn't have
>> the
>> other things that I dislike.

>
> Just curious but what is it about the UI etc. of Agent do you dislike?
> And,
> what version of Agent's UI & layout, etc. do you dislike?


I've hated the Agent UI since it first came out. Just for kicks though, I
just pulled down 4.2, and installed it, so the major observations gripes are
based on that.

Where should I start? As I said in another post, the GUI itself it not
important, even though Agent still looks like a Win 3.1 app. Um, where is
the ability to view text with the icons in to the tool bar, and/or the
ability to resize them? Not all of the icons are intuitive. A lot of use
don't see all that well, and everything is overly small to me. I run at
1280x1024 resolution because I have a LOT of stuff going at the same time.
Don't want to have to squint of use a magnifying glass to see everything.

**Let's start with the desk pane**

By default, the different servers should be separated. OE does it,
Thunderbird does it, WLM does it better. You don't even get the chance set
up a new desk when you set the server up. As a result, newsgroups from all
servers are in the "All Folders" list/desk. To do what should have been done
by default, you have to right click, and create a new desk, then right click
on the group, and tell it to assign it to the desk. And even then, it leaves
that folder in the "All Folders" desk, AND you can't remove it from there. A
very ugly way of doing things. If I use a GUI, I want it to be at least
intuitive. You have all these steps to jump through, just to set it up semi
intuitively. I post on different servers, and use different sigs for each,
so the set up I described is critical. If you post to one, I guess that
wouldn't be that important then. But it adds too much crap in that pane that
doesn't need to be there.

**The header pane and messages**

Again, counter intuitive. Can't choose what columns you wish display. No
ability to flag a message. I'll generally read through the messages, flag
the ones I respond to, then go back and respond to them after I read all the
messages. Sometimes I will answer as I read as I am doing now, but usually
if that ng has a lot a traffic, I will do it the manner I described. You can
watch the thread, but can't flag it. Can flag in the 3 I mentioned here. No
option to mark the thread as read. Again, can do it in the 3 I mentioned.
Now the part I LOATHE the most about it. When I click on the header, I want
the body pulled right then. Don't want to hit enter, don't want to right
click and mark for later retrieval. THAT is counter productive as hell. Why
add more steps?

**The message pane**

The header view is kind of ok, and kind of stupid at the same time. I like
how it collapses when you DO hit enter, but you can't reopen the header
unless you hit H, or click it in the "View" menu. Again, counter intuitive.
T-Bird is the best here. Can collapse it to one line like Agent does, but
you can re-open right there in the header. WLM's really sucks here. Big blue
non resizable, but can close and open it from the "Layout" menu. No spell
check as you go. All 3 others do. WLM even auto-corrects some words on the
fly for you.

Bottom line is the whole thing seems like it's over engineered. Some of the
stuff is ok, but why do I need a zoom for the pane? Don't particularly see
where that's real helpful. Maybe in the header pane if there are a lot of
messages. Why do I need a separate "Task Manager" window? I guess maybe if
you do binary ng's it would be semi-useful. Here, just pop the error message
inline like the others do. If I need to, I can and check the logs later. One
thing I love about WLM is that it interfaces with Windows Live Writer which
I use to write my blogs on.

Now where Agent DOES stand out is it's filter and view set up. However there
is a caveat. Once again, counter intuitive. Shouldn't need to have to sit
there and write a script. OE and WLM are best on being intuitive, but lack
in ability. T-Bird sucks here as you can't do the filter/rule from right
clicking on the header like Agent and the MS products do. For the views,
Agent is great. OE and WLM are more intuitive, but again, lack in scope.
Also again, T-Bird bites here.

This kinda cover things? ;D

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