This might be a dumb question, but . . .

I was told to check my bg first thing in the morning before I eat
anything and again 2 hours after my main meal. I often have a piece of
fruit as a snack, so I'm wondering if I should wait till after I do the
bg check. Also, can I have a cup of tea during that two hour time
period, or am I just supposed to have nothing during that time? (I put
Stevia and fat free half and half in my tea).

Thanks,
Carole

"Carole" <SeattleCarole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5le8ufF7llctU1@mid.individual.net...
>I was told to check my bg first thing in the morning before I eat anything
>and again 2 hours after my main meal. I often have a piece of fruit as a
>snack, so I'm wondering if I should wait till after I do the bg check.
>Also, can I have a cup of tea during that two hour time period, or am I
>just supposed to have nothing during that time? (I put Stevia and fat free
>half and half in my tea).

You probably don't want to bring up the stevia here. That's a real hot
button topic. Not sure what the carb count is for the half and half. You
might be better off having the real thing.

As for the fruit snack, this is something you may or may not need. Some
fruit is loaded with carbs. If I were you, I'd test before the fruit and
see what your numbers are. If <110 then you can eat the fruit. If >110,
you may need to rethink that snack. Or find out if the particular fruit you
are going to eat will spike you.

I don't like fruit very much at all so I rarely ever eat it. I find I can
have 2 or three cherries from my tree or a handful of strawberries from my
garden with no problems. Can even do 1/2 a grapefruit with no problems.
But many people find certain fruits spike them.

"Carole" <SeattleCarole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5le8ufF7llctU1@mid.individual.net...
>I was told to check my bg first thing in the morning before I eat anything
>and again 2 hours after my main meal. I often have a piece of fruit as a
>snack, so I'm wondering if I should wait till after I do the bg check.
>Also, can I have a cup of tea during that two hour time period, or am I
>just supposed to have nothing during that time? (I put Stevia and fat free
>half and half in my tea).

If you are new to this you really need to test anything that goes in your
mouth, before and after, preferable 1 hour after. Otherwise you will have
no clue as to what does or doesn't raise your bg.

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:49:34 -0700, Carole
<SeattleCarole@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I was told to check my bg first thing in the morning before I eat
>anything and again 2 hours after my main meal. I often have a piece of
>fruit as a snack, so I'm wondering if I should wait till after I do the
>bg check. Also, can I have a cup of tea during that two hour time
>period, or am I just supposed to have nothing during that time? (I put
>Stevia and fat free half and half in my tea).
>
>Thanks,
>Carole

Make it simpler. Test ONE hour after each meal or snack.
Then, if you delay your snack until at least an hour after a
meal there is no clash. It also means that you spread the
load to reduce spikes.

Read this:
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/20...-two-hour.html


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com

Carole, no dumb questions, just dumb answers.

You can have no carb shacks if you feel hungry between the two hours.
I woudl wait to have the peach until after the two hour test and then
test two hours after the peach. You need to know how peaches affect your
bgs. Tea, coffee, diet soda they all work for me, There isnt a time
when there isnt something I am drinking.

turkey and cheese could be a good snack as the protein will keep you
fill without it upping your blood sugar. You dont have to starve.
Maybe you arent eating enough at your meals.

Loretta

"Carole" <SeattleCarole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5le8ufF7llctU1@mid.individual.net...
>I was told to check my bg first thing in the morning before I eat anything
>and again 2 hours after my main meal. I often have a piece of fruit as a
>snack, so I'm wondering if I should wait till after I do the bg check.
>Also, can I have a cup of tea during that two hour time period, or am I
>just supposed to have nothing during that time? (I put Stevia and fat free
>half and half in my tea).
>
> Thanks,
> Carole


I wont tell you to sit down and do as I say but I will
say that I am very happy I worked with and listened to my doctor and
dietitian
about diet and exercise.

I found that the numbers I was getting in the beginning didn't really tell
me much for very long.
as each week went by and as I lost weight and exercised the same meals that
I was eating just a couple of
weeks ago were giving me lower numbers.
truth is I was so static before I was diagnosed that just a few walks to the
corner each day helped.
I wont get into any debates with others over this but I think its best to
find the people you trust most
and work with them and don't mix and match ideas. you heard the story about
too many cooks in the kitchen
well you body is more complicated than a cake.
good luck and don't forget to do the exercise your doctors recommend.


--
Tom

www.TomsDiabeticDiary.com

Chat in peace with other diabetes at the American Diabetes Associations Web
Site.
http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/...esz&redirCnt=1

Information You Can "Trust" From Your American Diabetes Association
www.diabetes.org

Information on Specific Types of Fat.
http://www.diabetes.org/nutrition-an...cific-fats.jsp

Loretta Eisenberg wrote:

> Carole, no dumb questions, just dumb answers.
>
> You can have no carb shacks if you feel hungry between the two hours.
> I woudl wait to have the peach until after the two hour test and then
> test two hours after the peach. You need to know how peaches affect your
> bgs. Tea, coffee, diet soda they all work for me, There isnt a time
> when there isnt something I am drinking.
>
> turkey and cheese could be a good snack as the protein will keep you
> fill without it upping your blood sugar. You dont have to starve.
> Maybe you arent eating enough at your meals.
>
> Loretta
>

Thanks, Loretta :-)

Actually, I just started on a new food plan about a month ago. I'm
staying on 1200 calories a day. I do get full when I eat now, which is a
change from before. I'm also exercising every other day (swimming) and
walking on the days I don't swim.

It's really down to habits that I'm working with. My doctor said it was
OK for me to save a fruit for night time as I used to do most of my
eating at night in front of the TV. But turkey would be good too I
have a problem with cheese as it's one of those foods that I just can't
eat a little of.

I'm doing MUCH better now than when I first started, and last night I
waited to have my fruit till after I'd taken my bg. The endocrinologist
looked at my food journal the other day and said that if I can keep to
the way I've been eating for the past 4 weeks, I'll be fine and I won't
have to go on meds. I'm hoping so as I already take 5 prescriptions a
day for congestive heart failure. So we'll see

Carole

Gantlet wrote:


> I wont tell you to sit down and do as I say but I will
> say that I am very happy I worked with and listened to my doctor and
> dietitian about diet and exercise.

I am much happier now too. I'm seeing a bariatrician for my weight, a
psychologist for the reasons I overeat, and my endocrinologist as my
blood work showed high sugar levels. And I also see a cardiologist as I
have congestive heart failure (from a virus I contracted two years ago).
Luckily, they are all working together to make me the healthiest I can be


> I found that the numbers I was getting in the beginning didn't really tell
> me much for very long.
> as each week went by and as I lost weight and exercised the same meals that
> I was eating just a couple of weeks ago were giving me lower numbers.
> truth is I was so static before I was diagnosed that just a few walks to the
> corner each day helped.

Yea, I was a super couch potato before I started on this lifestyle
change. It started with wanting to get the weight off. I'm lucky that my
doctor ordered the blood tests to check my metabolism. That's when the
diabetes showed up.

> I wont get into any debates with others over this but I think its best to
> find the people you trust most
> and work with them and don't mix and match ideas. you heard the story about
> too many cooks in the kitchen
> well you body is more complicated than a cake.
> good luck and don't forget to do the exercise your doctors recommend.

Yea, I hear ya on that one :-) The other thing I've learned is when I
go to the doctor's, ask questions )))

Carole

> .... and fat free half and half in my tea).

I saw this stuff in the store and thought, "What the ....?"

I mean, isn't one of those halves supposed to be cream?

How can it still be cream and not contain any fat?

Not that there is any reason for most people to avoid
the little bit of fat in a few tablespoons of REAL cream.

--
Wes Groleau

There ain't no right wing,
there ain't no left wing.
There's only you and me and we just disagree.
(apologies to Jim Krueger)

In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:59:30 -0400 in Msg.#
<4039-46F26EB2-187@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>, sassybklynlady@webtv.net
(Loretta Eisenberg) wrote:

> You can have no carb shacks ...

This typo has me thinking of an old pop hit, SUGAR SHACK. But, we need to
update it for T2s!!

--
DonnaB
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
...................09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
...................12-20-06 hbA1C 5.2
...................05-18-07 hbA1C 5.3

"DonnaB shallotpeel" <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9m46f3d1q1sirg4c51su8f6fpe3qjd3bdf@4ax.com...
> In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:59:30 -0400 in Msg.#
> <4039-46F26EB2-187@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>, sassybklynlady@webtv.net
> (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote:
>
>> You can have no carb shacks ...
>
> This typo has me thinking of an old pop hit, SUGAR SHACK. But, we need to
> update it for T2s!!

Now you've got me thinking of Love Shack!

DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:

> This typo has me thinking of an old pop hit, SUGAR SHACK. But, we need to
> update it for T2s!!

You just reminded me of how old I am, Donna, LOL!!!

Carole

Julie Bove wrote:

>>This typo has me thinking of an old pop hit, SUGAR SHACK. But, we need to
>>update it for T2s!!
>
>
> Now you've got me thinking of Love Shack!

Love is better for us than sugar :-))

Carole

"Carole" <SeattleCarole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5lh0i3F8348lU3@mid.individual.net...
> DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
>
>> This typo has me thinking of an old pop hit, SUGAR SHACK. But, we need to
>> update it for T2s!!
>
> You just reminded me of how old I am, Donna, LOL!!!

My mirror does that for me

"DonnaB shallotpeel" <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9m46f3d1q1sirg4c51su8f6fpe3qjd3bdf@4ax.com...
> In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:59:30 -0400 in Msg.#
> <4039-46F26EB2-187@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>, sassybklynlady@webtv.net
> (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote:
>
>> You can have no carb shacks ...
>
> This typo has me thinking of an old pop hit, SUGAR SHACK. But, we need to
> update it for T2s!!

Yes, Loretta was speaking correctly for a diabetic newsgroup

On Sep 19, 8:49 pm, Carole <SeattleCar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I was told to check my bg first thing in the morning before I eat
> anything and again 2 hours after my main meal. I often have a piece of
> fruit as a snack, so I'm wondering if I should wait till after I do the
> bg check. Also, can I have a cup of tea during that two hour time
> period, or am I just supposed to have nothing during that time? (I put
> Stevia and fat free half and half in my tea).
>
> Thanks,
> Carole

Hi Carole,

There are never any dumb questions! A lot of us rely on our
glucometers and the information in this website for determining what
foods are good for us and what foods aren't:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm.

Congrats on the lifestyle changes and being proactive in caring for
yourself! Hang around. Before long, you'll find you have a valuable
piece for other newbies who come to ASD.

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise

> are going to eat will spike you.
>
> I don't like fruit very much at all so I rarely ever eat it. I find I can
> have 2 or three cherries from my tree or a handful of strawberries from my
> garden with no problems. Can even do 1/2 a grapefruit with no problems.
> But many people find certain fruits spike them.
>

Yeah i was really surprised when I found the efect grapefruit juice had on
me, BIG SPIKE.


Jimmie

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:43:16 -0400, "Jimmie D"
<GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

>
>> are going to eat will spike you.
>>
>> I don't like fruit very much at all so I rarely ever eat it. I find I can
>> have 2 or three cherries from my tree or a handful of strawberries from my
>> garden with no problems. Can even do 1/2 a grapefruit with no problems.
>> But many people find certain fruits spike them.
>>
>
>Yeah i was really surprised when I found the efect grapefruit juice had on
>me, BIG SPIKE.
>
>
>Jimmie
>
For those on statins it can have even worse effects.

I was on lipitor when first diagnosed; first I saw the
spikes, then I read about grapefruit and statins. The only
time I've had one since was when I didn't have my
French-English dictionary handy and I thought "Pamplemousse"
would be some sort of mousse dessert in a restaurant near
Dijon:-)



Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com

Alan S <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:43:16 -0400, "Jimmie D"
> <GFENDER@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

>>
>>> are going to eat will spike you.
>>>
>>> I don't like fruit very much at all so I rarely ever eat it. I find I can
>>> have 2 or three cherries from my tree or a handful of strawberries from my
>>> garden with no problems. Can even do 1/2 a grapefruit with no problems.
>>> But many people find certain fruits spike them.
>>>
>>
>>Yeah i was really surprised when I found the efect grapefruit juice had on
>>me, BIG SPIKE.
>>
>>
>>Jimmie
>>
> For those on statins it can have even worse effects.

> I was on lipitor when first diagnosed; first I saw the
> spikes, then I read about grapefruit and statins. The only
> time I've had one since was when I didn't have my
> French-English dictionary handy and I thought "Pamplemousse"
> would be some sort of mousse dessert in a restaurant near
> Dijon:-)

According to a cardiologist I heard recently on a radio programme, the
problem is that grapefruit slows down the liver's breakdown of the
statin, thus in effect increasing the dose. He said this is an
important effect if you drink grapefruit juice by the pint, but
irrelevant if all you do is eat half a grapefruit for breakfast.

And if you *always* drink a pint of grapefruit juice every morning, it
doesn't matter, because if you told your doctor about it or titrated
up to an effective dose it will have been factored into the dose
you're taking.

Incidentally, it's not just statins grapefruit juice affects. It slows
down the breakdown of many drugs, including, quite usefully,
caffeine. :-)

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> a écrit ...
>
> "Carole" <SeattleCarole@hotmail.com> wrote ...
>>I was told to check my bg first thing in the morning before I eat anything
>>and again 2 hours after my main meal. I often have a piece of fruit as a
>>snack, so I'm wondering if I should wait till after I do the bg check.
>>Also, can I have a cup of tea during that two hour time period, or am I
>>just supposed to have nothing during that time? (I put Stevia and fat free
>>half and half in my tea).
>
> If you are new to this you really need to test anything that goes in your
> mouth, before and after, preferable 1 hour after. Otherwise you will have
> no clue as to what does or doesn't raise your bg.


EVERYTHING ?

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:42:45 +0200, " Frank t2" <a@b.c>
wrote:

>> If you are new to this you really need to test anything that goes in your
>> mouth, before and after, preferable 1 hour after. Otherwise you will have
>> no clue as to what does or doesn't raise your bg.
>
>
>EVERYTHING ?
>

Yes. You may have been joking. Ozgirl wasn't.

Everything.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Psyllium, Fibre, Muesli and Nuts

: "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> a ?crit ...
: >
: > "Carole" <SeattleCarole@hotmail.com> wrote ...
: >>I was told to check my bg first thing in the morning before I eat anything
: >>and again 2 hours after my main meal. I often have a piece of fruit as a
: >>snack, so I'm wondering if I should wait till after I do the bg check.
: >>Also, can I have a cup of tea during that two hour time period, or am I
: >>just supposed to have nothing during that time? (I put Stevia and fat free
: >>half and half in my tea).
: >
: > If you are new to this you really need to test anything that goes in your
: > mouth, before and after, preferable 1 hour after. Otherwise you will have
: > no clue as to what does or doesn't raise your bg.

I would, certanly test before taking the fruit snack some time after
dinner. If the BG is high, then DON'T eat the fruit. Only if the bg is
low shoudl you attempt to eat a fruit snack, even berries or canteloupe.

Wendy