My latest labs

[Reposting because (a) I haven't gotten any responses and worry that (b)
because "Andy" seems to be a bad name to have in this group it might
have been killfiled preventing MY posts from being seen and hoping that
by changing my name to "AW" this might be seen... or do I have to change
my email address too... ? -- So, this is from the poster formally known
as "Andy W" from Rhode Island and hoping this gets seen...]

Well, had my annual physical (4 months after I turned 40... but I did
get around to it and my labs are in as well...

In December i wrote:
> The Good: I made the 5% club! My A1C is 5.6! So, i did SOMETHING right
> these last few months It went down from 13.2 (July, DX). My VLDL went
> from 42 (March) to 22.

My A1C is still 5.6% which is amazing to me since I feel like I was not
doing as well this last six or so months. My VLDL is 21 so virtually no
change there.

> The Bad: My HDL only went from 27 (March) to 31. 40 is where my doc
> wants me to be at a minimum. That said, my mother has never gotten her
> HDL up very high so it could be genetic. Dunno. We're going to keep at
> it (see below).

My HDL is 33 so, also, no real change there either. I should be doing
more about it. I did increase my fish oil intake and also began taking
4,000 IU Vitamin D (gelcaps) per day. But I need to get better about
flax seeds/oil and more fish in general.

> The Ugly: My LDL went from 138 (March) to 191. As my Doc said, while my
> diet changes brought down my sugar, it killed my LDL. He suggested that
> I let sat fat creep into my diet. Which is odd because I tend to avoid
> sat fats. So, I need to go over my diet and see where I can cut more out.
> My BP was 118/80 which was better than a 120 something over 90 in
> September. He wants me to start taking 2.5 mg Lisinopril daily to lower
> it to reduce the risk of kidney damage.

Some here said that my LDL may have gone up as a result of my diet
changes. Well, they stayed up. Clocked in at 168. So, not as high as
last time but still way too high.

Also my Trigs are 105. My PSA normal (phew!) and my
Microalbumin/Creatinine ration is 3 which he said was lower than HE
probably was. My BP was 129/76. My weight (on their scale which is
always 5 pounds heavier than MY scale) is 237. My Fasting glucose at
blood time was 116 which is a bit higher than my usual 100-109.

My doctor understands why I didn't take the lisinopril he prescribed
last December but thinks the time has come to get moving.

So, I have in my hand prescriptions for Enalapril Maleate 2.5MB 1/day
(he said of all the drugs in this class, it has the lowest chance of
causing a cough). *And I have Simvastin 20MG 1/day. He wants me to start
the simvastin for 2 weeks and then start the elanapril (he doesn't like
starting more than 1 drug at a time to check for side effects).

So, that's where I'm at today. I'm happy that I'm in good shape except
for the cholesterol and blood pressure but not happy about the need for
drugs. Meh.

-AW

--
Andy
T2 dx 7/2007; D&E, 500mg Metformin 1/day, Enalapril 2.5mg 1/day,
Simvastin 20mb 1/day; A1C: 5.6%, BMI 32
Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.
--
Andy
T2 dx 7/2007; D&E, 500mg Metformin 1/day
A1C: 5.6%, BMI 31

Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.

AW wrote:
> [Reposting because (a) I haven't gotten any responses and worry that
> (b) because "Andy" seems to be a bad name to have in this group it
> might have been killfiled preventing MY posts from being seen and
> hoping that by changing my name to "AW" this might be seen... or do I
> have to change my email address too... ? -- So, this is from the
> poster formally known as "Andy W" from Rhode Island and hoping this
> gets seen...]
>
> Well, had my annual physical (4 months after I turned 40... but I did
> get around to it and my labs are in as well...
>
> In December i wrote:
>> The Good: I made the 5% club! My A1C is 5.6! So, i did SOMETHING
>> right these last few months It went down from 13.2 (July, DX). My
>> VLDL went from 42 (March) to 22.
>
> My A1C is still 5.6% which is amazing to me since I feel like I was
> not doing as well this last six or so months. My VLDL is 21 so
> virtually no change there.
>
>> The Bad: My HDL only went from 27 (March) to 31. 40 is where my doc
>> wants me to be at a minimum. That said, my mother has never gotten
>> her HDL up very high so it could be genetic. Dunno. We're going to
>> keep at it (see below).
>
> My HDL is 33 so, also, no real change there either. I should be doing
> more about it. I did increase my fish oil intake and also began taking
> 4,000 IU Vitamin D (gelcaps) per day. But I need to get better about
> flax seeds/oil and more fish in general.
>
>> The Ugly: My LDL went from 138 (March) to 191. As my Doc said, while
>> my diet changes brought down my sugar, it killed my LDL. He
>> suggested that I let sat fat creep into my diet. Which is odd
>> because I tend to avoid sat fats. So, I need to go over my diet and
>> see where I can cut more out. My BP was 118/80 which was better than
>> a 120 something over 90 in September. He wants me to start taking
>> 2.5 mg Lisinopril daily to lower it to reduce the risk of kidney
>> damage.
>
> Some here said that my LDL may have gone up as a result of my diet
> changes. Well, they stayed up. Clocked in at 168. So, not as high as
> last time but still way too high.
>
> Also my Trigs are 105. My PSA normal (phew!) and my
> Microalbumin/Creatinine ration is 3 which he said was lower than HE
> probably was. My BP was 129/76. My weight (on their scale which is
> always 5 pounds heavier than MY scale) is 237. My Fasting glucose at
> blood time was 116 which is a bit higher than my usual 100-109.
>
> My doctor understands why I didn't take the lisinopril he prescribed
> last December but thinks the time has come to get moving.
>
> So, I have in my hand prescriptions for Enalapril Maleate 2.5MB 1/day
> (he said of all the drugs in this class, it has the lowest chance of
> causing a cough). And I have Simvastin 20MG 1/day. He wants me to
> start the simvastin for 2 weeks and then start the elanapril (he
> doesn't like starting more than 1 drug at a time to check for side
> effects).
>
> So, that's where I'm at today. I'm happy that I'm in good shape except
> for the cholesterol and blood pressure but not happy about the need
> for drugs. Meh.

Andy, why not have the doc prescribe an ARB instead of an ACE for BP? It is
not unknown to have a cough with an ARB but pretty rare. I have drug
sensitivities to a lot of types of drugs but BP meds are one of the few
things that don't cause any unpleasant side effects for me.

In article <6d6gcmF1488bU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

> AW wrote:
> > So, I have in my hand prescriptions for Enalapril Maleate 2.5MB 1/day
> > (he said of all the drugs in this class, it has the lowest chance of
> > causing a cough). And I have Simvastin 20MG 1/day. He wants me to
> > start the simvastin for 2 weeks and then start the elanapril (he
> > doesn't like starting more than 1 drug at a time to check for side
> > effects).
> >
> Andy, why not have the doc prescribe an ARB instead of an ACE for BP? It is
> not unknown to have a cough with an ARB but pretty rare. I have drug
> sensitivities to a lot of types of drugs but BP meds are one of the few
> things that don't cause any unpleasant side effects for me.

He talked about it. He said that it is a more expensive drug (there's
only 1 generic for it at present?) and that he would put me on it if I
had a coughing issue develop. He said we'd start with the *prils and see
how I do. I got back in 3 months.

I talked a lot with him about my misgivings about BP and Cholesterol
meds given what I've read here and on the Heart Scan Blog among others.
He pointed out that while he doesn't 100% tow the AHA/ADA party lines,
he does believe that reducing BP and Cholesterol are essential and
recommended we go this route. As he put it, he hasn't seen anything
refuting any of the landmark studies which indicate these courses of
treatment and I had nothing with me to counter that.

-A
--
Andy
T2 dx 7/2007; D&E; A1C: 5.6%, BMI 32
500mg Metformin 1/day, Enalapril 2.5mg 1/day, Simvastin 20mb 1/day;

Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.

AW <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote:
> [Reposting because (a) I haven't gotten any responses and worry that (b)
> because "Andy" seems to be a bad name to have in this group it might
> have been killfiled preventing MY posts from being seen and hoping that
> by changing my name to "AW" this might be seen... or do I have to change
> my email address too... ? -- So, this is from the poster formally known
> as "Andy W" from Rhode Island and hoping this gets seen...]

Hi AW. Yes. I've kf'd "Andy" in several NG's.

> In December i wrote:
> > The Good: I made the 5% club! My A1C is 5.6! So, i did SOMETHING right
> > these last few months It went down from 13.2 (July, DX). My VLDL
> > went from 42 (March) to 22.
>
> My A1C is still 5.6% which is amazing to me since I feel like I was not
> doing as well this last six or so months. My VLDL is 21 so virtually no
> change there.

5.6 is great. What are your peak BG's?

> > The Bad: My HDL only went from 27 (March) to 31. 40 is where my doc
> > wants me to be at a minimum. That said, my mother has never gotten her
> > HDL up very high so it could be genetic. Dunno. We're going to keep at
> > it (see below).
>
> My HDL is 33 so, also, no real change there either. I should be doing
> more about it. I did increase my fish oil intake and also began taking
> 4,000 IU Vitamin D (gelcaps) per day. But I need to get better about
> flax seeds/oil and more fish in general.

Yes! Eat a lot more fish! There are many kinds and they can be prepared
many different ways.

> > The Ugly: My LDL went from 138 (March) to 191. As my Doc said, while my
> > diet changes brought down my sugar, it killed my LDL. He suggested that
> > I let sat fat creep into my diet. Which is odd because I tend to avoid
> > sat fats. So, I need to go over my diet and see where I can cut more
> > out. My BP was 118/80 which was better than a 120 something over 90 in
> > September. He wants me to start taking 2.5 mg Lisinopril daily to lower
> > it to reduce the risk of kidney damage.
>
> Some here said that my LDL may have gone up as a result of my diet
> changes. Well, they stayed up. Clocked in at 168. So, not as high as
> last time but still way too high.
>
> Also my Trigs are 105. My PSA normal (phew!) and my
> Microalbumin/Creatinine ration is 3 which he said was lower than HE
> probably was. My BP was 129/76. My weight (on their scale which is
> always 5 pounds heavier than MY scale) is 237. My Fasting glucose at
> blood time was 116 which is a bit higher than my usual 100-109.
>
> My doctor understands why I didn't take the lisinopril he prescribed
> last December but thinks the time has come to get moving.
>
> So, I have in my hand prescriptions for Enalapril Maleate 2.5MB 1/day
> (he said of all the drugs in this class, it has the lowest chance of
> causing a cough). And I have Simvastin 20MG 1/day. He wants me to start
> the simvastin for 2 weeks and then start the elanapril (he doesn't like
> starting more than 1 drug at a time to check for side effects).

I've had high blood pressure for over 40 tears and have been taking
enalapril for over 30. I'm now also taking Benicar.

> So, that's where I'm at today. I'm happy that I'm in good shape except
> for the cholesterol and blood pressure but not happy about the need for
> drugs. Meh.

As long as your doctor watches for interactions and contraindications, you
should do fine. a.s.d and Google will keep you informed.

--
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I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops.
You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

In article <20080704075425.281$HV@newsreader.com>,
Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote:

> AW <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [Reposting because (a) I haven't gotten any responses and worry that (b)
> > because "Andy" seems to be a bad name to have in this group it might
> > have been killfiled preventing MY posts from being seen...

> Hi AW. Yes. I've kf'd "Andy" in several NG's.

Guess it's time for me to change my name... though "AW" seems to be
working for the moment.

My mother nearly named me Kyle... i could go with that...

-AW, maybe "Kyle"...
--
Andy
T2 dx 7/2007; D&E; A1C: 5.6%, BMI 32
500mg Metformin 1/day, Enalapril 2.5mg 1/day, Simvastin 20mb 1/day;

Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.

AW wrote:
> In article <20080704075425.281$HV@newsreader.com>,
> Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> AW <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [Reposting because (a) I haven't gotten any responses and worry
>>> that (b) because "Andy" seems to be a bad name to have in this
>>> group it might have been killfiled preventing MY posts from being
>>> seen...
>
>> Hi AW. Yes. I've kf'd "Andy" in several NG's.
>
> Guess it's time for me to change my name... though "AW" seems to be
> working for the moment.
>
> My mother nearly named me Kyle... i could go with that...
>
> -AW, maybe "Kyle"...

Kyle is not a bad name When we moved to this house 8 years ago my little
girl (she has Down syndrome) called our neighbour Fyle instead of Kyle. The
neighbourhood kids somehow got to calling him Phil, a twist on Fyle. He is
almost 17 now and I can't remember the last time anyone called him Kyle.

In article <6d6n0gF151g2U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

> AW wrote:
> > In article <20080704075425.281$HV@newsreader.com>,
> > Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote:

> > My mother nearly named me Kyle... i could go with that...
> >
> > -AW, maybe "Kyle"...
>
> Kyle is not a bad name When we moved to this house 8 years ago my little
> girl (she has Down syndrome) called our neighbour Fyle instead of Kyle. The
> neighbourhood kids somehow got to calling him Phil, a twist on Fyle. He is
> almost 17 now and I can't remember the last time anyone called him Kyle.

LOL! When I got married, I took my wife's surname. One night, before the
wedding when I was still undecided about the whole name thing, I thought
I would try it out. I decided to try changing my first name as well and
decided Kyle would work. So, I told my friends to use both Kyle and my
proposed new surname.

Well, it turns out that another friend brought along her brand new
boyfriend. He met me as Kyle ______ and from that night on (it's been a
decade or so now) he still calls me Kyle since that's how he met me.

So... it's not much of a stretch for me to use it. One person calls me
that already :-)

-A... I mean... -K
--
Andy
T2 dx 7/2007; D&E; A1C: 5.6%, BMI 32
500mg Metformin 1/day, Enalapril 2.5mg 1/day, Simvastin 20mb 1/day;

Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.

"AW" <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease-0AFB32.07304504072008@news.lga.highwinds-media.com...
> [Reposting because (a) I haven't gotten any responses and worry that (b)
> because "Andy" seems to be a bad name to have in this group it might
> have been killfiled preventing MY posts from being seen and hoping that
> by changing my name to "AW" this might be seen... or do I have to change
> my email address too... ? -- So, this is from the poster formally known
> as "Andy W" from Rhode Island and hoping this gets seen...]
[snip]
I saw it this time, but you might have to use a scrambled email address
without Andy in it to make sure enough others see it too.

"AW" <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease-0AFB32.07304504072008@news.lga.highwinds-media.com...
>
> My HDL is 33 so, also, no real change there either. I should be doing
> more about it. I did increase my fish oil intake and also began taking
> 4,000 IU Vitamin D (gelcaps) per day. But I need to get better about
> flax seeds/oil and more fish in general.
>

How about exercise?
or did I miss something in your posts?
bj

On 04 Jul 2008 11:54:24 GMT, Nick Cramer posted:

>AW <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [Reposting because (a) I haven't gotten any responses and worry that (b)
>> because "Andy" seems to be a bad name to have in this group it might
>> have been killfiled preventing MY posts from being seen and hoping that
>> by changing my name to "AW" this might be seen... or do I have to change
>> my email address too... ? -- So, this is from the poster formally known
>> as "Andy W" from Rhode Island and hoping this gets seen...]
>
>Hi AW. Yes. I've kf'd "Andy" in several NG's.

I've KF'd "Andy <q>", but did not see AW because he is not
specifically allowed in my scoring for gmail. Basically, if a poster
has a gmail address, I have to specifically allow posts through. All
others go into the bit bucket.

To Andy:
I will see your posts from now on.
Conrats on the great A1C!


--
roses are #FF0000
violets are #0000FF
all my base
are belong to you

AW wrote:
> In article <6d6n0gF151g2U1@mid.individual.net>,
> "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
>
>> AW wrote:
>>> In article <20080704075425.281$HV@newsreader.com>,
>>> Nick Cramer <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>>> My mother nearly named me Kyle... i could go with that...
>>>
>>> -AW, maybe "Kyle"...
>>
>> Kyle is not a bad name When we moved to this house 8 years ago my
>> little girl (she has Down syndrome) called our neighbour Fyle
>> instead of Kyle. The neighbourhood kids somehow got to calling him
>> Phil, a twist on Fyle. He is almost 17 now and I can't remember the
>> last time anyone called him Kyle.
>
> LOL! When I got married, I took my wife's surname. One night, before
> the wedding when I was still undecided about the whole name thing, I
> thought I would try it out. I decided to try changing my first name
> as well and decided Kyle would work. So, I told my friends to use
> both Kyle and my proposed new surname.
>
> Well, it turns out that another friend brought along her brand new
> boyfriend. He met me as Kyle ______ and from that night on (it's been
> a decade or so now) he still calls me Kyle since that's how he met me.
>
> So... it's not much of a stretch for me to use it. One person calls me
> that already :-)


My 18 yr old son had been out of touch with a school friend he last saw when
he was 12. Recently I saw the friend and his mum in a supermarket car park.
She said "how's Rodney doing these days?" I laughed. Rodney was the name he
was known as to a certain set of friends because one kept forgetting his
name (Anthony) and for some reason called him Rodney and it stuck.

In article <5qKdnXi-ZL_gwfPVnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote:

> "AW" <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease-0AFB32.07304504072008@news.lga.highwinds-media.co
> m...
> >
> > My HDL is 33 so, also, no real change there either. I should be doing
> > more about it. I did increase my fish oil intake and also began taking
> > 4,000 IU Vitamin D (gelcaps) per day. But I need to get better about
> > flax seeds/oil and more fish in general.
> >
>
> How about exercise?
> or did I miss something in your posts?
> bj

I walk every day. Average between 5K-8K steps. Also do what I call power
gardening. That's regular gardening with lawn mowing and the removal of
bittersweet (which is EVIL STUFF) thrown in for good measure :-)

-A
--
Andy
T2 dx 7/2007; D&E; A1C: 5.6%, BMI 32
500mg Metformin 1/day, Enalapril 2.5mg 1/day, Simvastin 20mb 1/day;

Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:30:46 -0400, AW
<AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote:

>In article <5qKdnXi-ZL_gwfPVnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "bgl" <bjones44@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> "AW" <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease-0AFB32.07304504072008@news.lga.highwinds-media.co
>> m...
>> >
>> > My HDL is 33 so, also, no real change there either. I should be doing
>> > more about it. I did increase my fish oil intake and also began taking
>> > 4,000 IU Vitamin D (gelcaps) per day. But I need to get better about
>> > flax seeds/oil and more fish in general.
>> >
>>
>> How about exercise?
>> or did I miss something in your posts?
>> bj
>
>I walk every day. Average between 5K-8K steps. Also do what I call power
>gardening. That's regular gardening with lawn mowing and the removal of
>bittersweet (which is EVIL STUFF) thrown in for good measure :-)

ROFL! I have a garden like that.... Good idea on the name-change
front, I had indeed KF'd the idiot.

Lovely A1c - particularly given your BMI (unless you're the seriously
muscular type? :P ) Would a bit more weightloss help on the BP front?
I'm pretty sure it would on the cholesterol front too, because the
liver makes 80% of your serum cholesterol, and a fatty liver is an
unhappy one...

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25

OK. Name has been changed. Was Andy. Now is Kyle. Let's hope some other
Kyle doesn't come to this newsgroup and piss everyone off making me have
to change it again.

-A... I mean... -K

--
Kyle (formerly an "A" name :-)
T2 dx 7/2007; D&E; A1C: 5.6%, BMI 32
500mg Metformin 1/day, Enalapril 2.5mg 1/day, Simvastin 20mb 1/day;

Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.

Kyle wrote:
> OK. Name has been changed. Was Andy. Now is Kyle. Let's hope some
> other Kyle doesn't come to this newsgroup and piss everyone off
> making me have to change it again.
>
> -A... I mean... -K

I don't think we have had a Kyle before you , I think you are safe

"Kyle" <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease-2B31E6.07552405072008@news.lga.highwinds-media.com...
> OK. Name has been changed. Was Andy. Now is Kyle. Let's hope some other
> Kyle doesn't come to this newsgroup and piss everyone off making me have
> to change it again.
>
> -A... I mean... -K
>
> --
> Kyle (formerly an "A" name :-)

As long as the other Kyle doesn't earn a place in killfiles, adding an
initial
or some other small change should be enough. Also, you could go back
to AW unless some other AW comes along.

However, I still see Andy as part of your email return address. Some
email programs set to block Andy as a name could have problems
with return addresses containing Andy.

In article <BQLbk.24575$AJ6.6655@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
"Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:

> However, I still see Andy as part of your email return address. Some
> email programs set to block Andy as a name could have problems
> with return addresses containing Andy.

I am going to set up a new alias on my .mac/me.com email address for
this as soon as I am able. I have seen tell that some people also filter
out gmail addresses so I want to avoid that altogether. So, soon...
(waiting for the me.com launch next week)

-A

--
Kyle (formerly an "A" name :-)
T2 dx 7/2007; D&E; A1C: 5.6%, BMI 32
500mg Metformin 1/day, Enalapril 2.5mg 1/day, Simvastin 20mb 1/day;

Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.

"Kyle" <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease-19B2BF.11130905072008@news.lga.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <BQLbk.24575$AJ6.6655@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
> "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>> However, I still see Andy as part of your email return address. Some
>> email programs set to block Andy as a name could have problems
>> with return addresses containing Andy.
>
> I am going to set up a new alias on my .mac/me.com email address for
> this as soon as I am able. I have seen tell that some people also filter
> out gmail addresses so I want to avoid that altogether. So, soon...
> (waiting for the me.com launch next week)
>
> -A
>
> --
> Kyle (formerly an "A" name :-)

So your newsreader program requires you to use a working return
address when posting mail? Mine doesn't, and I took advantage of
that to avoid letting spammers who use programs to save all the return
addresses used in some newsgroups in order to add them to the lists
of addresses they send spam to. If you don't know any other way
to make an address fail to reach anyone, you can change the part
starting with the last period to .invalid which is defined as not giving
any valid addresses.

Also, there are ways to get around the blocks of gmail.com while still
keeping a gmail.com address:

<http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_change_return_address_google_gmail.html>

<http://www.labnol.org/internet/email/gmail-email-alias-two-separate-gmail-address/2388/>

Ozgirl wrote:
> Kyle wrote:
>> OK. Name has been changed. Was Andy. Now is Kyle. Let's hope some
>> other Kyle doesn't come to this newsgroup and piss everyone off
>> making me have to change it again.
>>
>> -A... I mean... -K
>
You may want to kill file a guy named Andy he's areal jerk! :-)


(- -)
=m=(_)=m=
RodS T2
Australia

> I don't think we have had a Kyle before you , I think you are safe
>
>

In article <5xMbk.24599$AJ6.21700@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
"Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:

> So your newsreader program requires you to use a working return
> address when posting mail? Mine doesn't, and I took advantage of
> that to avoid letting spammers who use programs to save all the return
> addresses used in some newsgroups in order to add them to the lists
> of addresses they send spam to.

Come to think of it, it does allow me to use BS addresses. I think I
originally wanted to use a real address in case anyone wanted to email
me privately about whatever. But, to date, no one has and maybe I should
move on from that and just use a bogus address...

I must admit, this need to hide my address at all annoys me (Damn you
spammers!) and I often think that hiding my "true identity" is silly as
well. I have reasonable reasons for doing it which match why many others
here do the same but I still sometimes wish I could just be me and let
it go at that. I guess this latest thing where I can't even use my own
first name because of a couple of wing nuts who happen to share it is
just insult added to injury.

Ok, I'm done whining now. :-)

-Me

--
Kyle (formerly an "A" name :-)
T2 dx 7/2007; D&E; A1C: 5.6%, BMI 32
500mg Metformin 1/day, Enalapril 2.5mg 1/day, Simvastin 20mb 1/day;

Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.

"Kyle" <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease-531C05.07291606072008@news.lga.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <5xMbk.24599$AJ6.21700@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
> "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>> So your newsreader program requires you to use a working return
>> address when posting mail? Mine doesn't, and I took advantage of
>> that to avoid letting spammers who use programs to save all the return
>> addresses used in some newsgroups in order to add them to the lists
>> of addresses they send spam to.
>
> Come to think of it, it does allow me to use BS addresses. I think I
> originally wanted to use a real address in case anyone wanted to email
> me privately about whatever. But, to date, no one has and maybe I should
> move on from that and just use a bogus address...

The first people who want to use any real addresses you supply are
often spammers who not only want to send spam to them, but also
sell lists of them to other spammers.

I've munged mine enough to prevent spammers from using computer
programs from collecting a usable return address from my posts, but
people familiar with the common ways of munging addresses are
still able to unmunge it.

Not many spammers have gone to the trouble to unmunge it, and
most of those get quickly reported to whatever ISP they are using.
I wish my email/newsreader program (Windows Mail) had options
for checking all of the header lines for such things as IP addresses
previously used by spammers, though.

> I must admit, this need to hide my address at all annoys me (Damn you
> spammers!) and I often think that hiding my "true identity" is silly as
> well. I have reasonable reasons for doing it which match why many others
> here do the same but I still sometimes wish I could just be me and let
> it go at that. I guess this latest thing where I can't even use my own
> first name because of a couple of wing nuts who happen to share it is
> just insult added to injury.
>
> Ok, I'm done whining now. :-)
>
> -Me
>
> --
> Kyle (formerly an "A" name :-)
> T2 dx 7/2007; D&E; A1C: 5.6%, BMI 32
> 500mg Metformin 1/day, Enalapril 2.5mg 1/day, Simvastin 20mb 1/day;
>
> Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:09:43 -0500, "Robert Miles"
<robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:

>
>"Kyle" <AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:AndyTypeTwoN0SpamPlease-531C05.07291606072008@news.lga.highwinds-media.com...
>> In article <5xMbk.24599$AJ6.21700@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
>> "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>
>>> So your newsreader program requires you to use a working return
>>> address when posting mail? Mine doesn't, and I took advantage of
>>> that to avoid letting spammers who use programs to save all the return
>>> addresses used in some newsgroups in order to add them to the lists
>>> of addresses they send spam to.
>>
>> Come to think of it, it does allow me to use BS addresses. I think I
>> originally wanted to use a real address in case anyone wanted to email
>> me privately about whatever. But, to date, no one has and maybe I should
>> move on from that and just use a bogus address...
>
>The first people who want to use any real addresses you supply are
>often spammers who not only want to send spam to them, but also
>sell lists of them to other spammers.
>
>I've munged mine enough to prevent spammers from using computer
>programs from collecting a usable return address from my posts, but
>people familiar with the common ways of munging addresses are
>still able to unmunge it.
>
>Not many spammers have gone to the trouble to unmunge it, and
>most of those get quickly reported to whatever ISP they are using.
>I wish my email/newsreader program (Windows Mail) had options
>for checking all of the header lines for such things as IP addresses
>previously used by spammers, though.

I used to use a bogus from: line and a valid reply to: unfotunately it
took a while but the bots cottoned on to that so these days I remain
completely bogus on usenet. Valid addresses still slip out from many
sources though.