My personal fibre experiment

Ok. Past experience has shown me that grain fibre has done little for me in
the BM dept as opposed to vegetable and fruit fibre.

So, just to see if my memory was better than past reality I experimented on
myself.

I am a huge low starch eater and my choice of vegetables and fruit reflect
that. I eat large quantities of raw (lesser amounts cooked) of fibrousy low
carb veggies and some low GI fruits.

Bear in mind also, that my IR is at a point now where I can eat more carbs
than I could 7 years ago.

So, for the past three days I have added wholegrain cereals, bread, potatoes
and rice to my diet. I have still eaten salad and other veggies but in much
lesser amounts - hard to fit a lot of stuff in after some protein and a
starchy food. I have still kept up the same fluid and exercise levels.

I fully expected to go from 3-4 soft, non odorous bm's a day down to one
offensive style one (sorry folks). I was gobsmacked, I haven't been to
the loo for bm's for 3 full days. I am well and truly bogged up. Now, what I
have eaten is the allegedly healthy foods (packed with fibre, blah blah).

Bg's have been up but not hugely up. This morning I have gone back to my
normal eating plan. Breakfast was a frittata with plenty of veggies in it,
a couple of eggs and a little low fat cheese cooked in it. I have already
had snack #1 - a bowl of raw vegetables dipped in hummus.

Snack #2 will be my usual smoothie of brewer's yeast (my vit B bomb),
strawberries, low fat, plain yoghurt and Splenda. Lunch will be canned
salmon and plateful of raw salad veggies etc etc with avocado slices and
home made vinaigrette (balsamic and olive oil with garlic/herbs etc).

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
news:13drq2utp2jite6@news.supernews.com...
> Ok. Past experience has shown me that grain fibre has done little for me
> in the BM dept as opposed to vegetable and fruit fibre.
>
> So, just to see if my memory was better than past reality I experimented
> on myself.
>
> I am a huge low starch eater and my choice of vegetables and fruit reflect
> that. I eat large quantities of raw (lesser amounts cooked) of fibrousy
> low carb veggies and some low GI fruits.
>
> Bear in mind also, that my IR is at a point now where I can eat more carbs
> than I could 7 years ago.
>
> So, for the past three days I have added wholegrain cereals, bread,
> potatoes and rice to my diet. I have still eaten salad and other veggies
> but in much lesser amounts - hard to fit a lot of stuff in after some
> protein and a starchy food. I have still kept up the same fluid and
> exercise levels.
>
> I fully expected to go from 3-4 soft, non odorous bm's a day down to one
> offensive style one (sorry folks). I was gobsmacked, I haven't been to
> the loo for bm's for 3 full days. I am well and truly bogged up. Now, what
> I have eaten is the allegedly healthy foods (packed with fibre, blah
> blah).
>
> Bg's have been up but not hugely up. This morning I have gone back to my
> normal eating plan. Breakfast was a frittata with plenty of veggies in
> it, a couple of eggs and a little low fat cheese cooked in it. I have
> already had snack #1 - a bowl of raw vegetables dipped in hummus.
>
> Snack #2 will be my usual smoothie of brewer's yeast (my vit B bomb),
> strawberries, low fat, plain yoghurt and Splenda. Lunch will be canned
> salmon and plateful of raw salad veggies etc etc with avocado slices and
> home made vinaigrette (balsamic and olive oil with garlic/herbs etc).

I will gladly give you my egg and dairy allergies. Then you know what you
have to do. You'll be going in no time!

Thankfully aside from immediately following having the baby, I have never
suffered from constipation. And then I think it was more of a mental thing.
I just didn't want to go from all the pain down there. Actually there was a
brief period of time when I was really hyperthyroid when my bowels got
messed up for a couple of weeks, but I know that was the cause.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:19:13 +1000, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>Ok. Past experience has shown me that grain fibre has done little for me in
>the BM dept as opposed to vegetable and fruit fibre.
>
>So, just to see if my memory was better than past reality I experimented on
>myself.
>
>I am a huge low starch eater and my choice of vegetables and fruit reflect
>that. I eat large quantities of raw (lesser amounts cooked) of fibrousy low
>carb veggies and some low GI fruits.
>
>Bear in mind also, that my IR is at a point now where I can eat more carbs
>than I could 7 years ago.
>
>So, for the past three days I have added wholegrain cereals, bread, potatoes
>and rice to my diet. I have still eaten salad and other veggies but in much
>lesser amounts - hard to fit a lot of stuff in after some protein and a
>starchy food. I have still kept up the same fluid and exercise levels.
>
>I fully expected to go from 3-4 soft, non odorous bm's a day down to one
>offensive style one (sorry folks). I was gobsmacked, I haven't been to
>the loo for bm's for 3 full days. I am well and truly bogged up. Now, what I
>have eaten is the allegedly healthy foods (packed with fibre, blah blah).
>
>Bg's have been up but not hugely up. This morning I have gone back to my
>normal eating plan. Breakfast was a frittata with plenty of veggies in it,
>a couple of eggs and a little low fat cheese cooked in it. I have already
>had snack #1 - a bowl of raw vegetables dipped in hummus.
>
>Snack #2 will be my usual smoothie of brewer's yeast (my vit B bomb),
>strawberries, low fat, plain yoghurt and Splenda. Lunch will be canned
>salmon and plateful of raw salad veggies etc etc with avocado slices and
>home made vinaigrette (balsamic and olive oil with garlic/herbs etc).
>
Surprising consequence.

Possibly a little psyllium tonight if things don't, er, work
themselves out?

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
news:13drq2utp2jite6@news.supernews.com...
> Ok. Past experience has shown me that grain fibre has done little for me
> in the BM dept as opposed to vegetable and fruit fibre.
>
> So, just to see if my memory was better than past reality I experimented
> on myself.
>
> I am a huge low starch eater and my choice of vegetables and fruit reflect
> that. I eat large quantities of raw (lesser amounts cooked) of fibrousy
> low carb veggies and some low GI fruits.
>
> Bear in mind also, that my IR is at a point now where I can eat more carbs
> than I could 7 years ago.
>
> So, for the past three days I have added wholegrain cereals, bread,
> potatoes and rice to my diet. I have still eaten salad and other veggies
> but in much lesser amounts - hard to fit a lot of stuff in after some
> protein and a starchy food. I have still kept up the same fluid and
> exercise levels.
>
> I fully expected to go from 3-4 soft, non odorous bm's a day down to one
> offensive style one (sorry folks). I was gobsmacked, I haven't been to
> the loo for bm's for 3 full days. I am well and truly bogged up. Now, what
> I have eaten is the allegedly healthy foods (packed with fibre, blah
> blah).
>
> Bg's have been up but not hugely up. This morning I have gone back to my
> normal eating plan. Breakfast was a frittata with plenty of veggies in
> it, a couple of eggs and a little low fat cheese cooked in it. I have
> already had snack #1 - a bowl of raw vegetables dipped in hummus.
>
> Snack #2 will be my usual smoothie of brewer's yeast (my vit B bomb),
> strawberries, low fat, plain yoghurt and Splenda. Lunch will be canned
> salmon and plateful of raw salad veggies etc etc with avocado slices and
> home made vinaigrette (balsamic and olive oil with garlic/herbs etc).
Thank god this server doesn't support graphics.

John

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in part:

>Ok. Past experience has shown me that grain fibre has done little for me in
>the BM dept as opposed to vegetable and fruit fibre.
>
>So, just to see if my memory was better than past reality I experimented on
>myself.
>
>I am a huge low starch eater and my choice of vegetables and fruit reflect
>that. I eat large quantities of raw (lesser amounts cooked) of fibrousy low
>carb veggies and some low GI fruits.
>
>Bear in mind also, that my IR is at a point now where I can eat more carbs
>than I could 7 years ago.

Impertinent question: How old are you, Ozgirl?

>So, for the past three days I have added wholegrain cereals, bread, potatoes
>and rice to my diet.

On balance, those sound like they are very low in fiber.

>I have still eaten salad and other veggies but in much
>lesser amounts - hard to fit a lot of stuff in after some protein and a
>starchy food. I have still kept up the same fluid and exercise levels.
>
>I fully expected to go from 3-4 soft, non odorous bm's a day down to one
>offensive style one (sorry folks). I was gobsmacked, I haven't been to
>the loo for bm's for 3 full days. I am well and truly bogged up. Now, what I
>have eaten is the allegedly healthy foods (packed with fibre, blah blah).
>
>Bg's have been up but not hugely up. This morning I have gone back to my
>normal eating plan. Breakfast was a frittata with plenty of veggies in it,
>a couple of eggs and a little low fat cheese cooked in it. I have already
>had snack #1 - a bowl of raw vegetables dipped in hummus.
>
>Snack #2 will be my usual smoothie of brewer's yeast (my vit B bomb),
>strawberries, low fat, plain yoghurt and Splenda. Lunch will be canned
>salmon and plateful of raw salad veggies etc etc with avocado slices and
>home made vinaigrette (balsamic and olive oil with garlic/herbs etc).
>
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

"Jim Chinnis" <jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu> >>Bear in mind also, that my IR is
at a point now where I can eat more carbs
>>than I could 7 years ago.
>
> Impertinent question: How old are you, Ozgirl?

54

>>So, for the past three days I have added wholegrain cereals, bread,
>>potatoes
>>and rice to my diet.
>
> On balance, those sound like they are very low in fiber.

Small clarification - brown rice, whole grain bread, and jackets on potato.
Add that to the fact that they filled me too much to have my usual amount of
non starch veggies.

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in part:

>
>"Jim Chinnis" <jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu> >>Bear in mind also, that my IR is
>at a point now where I can eat more carbs
>>>than I could 7 years ago.
>>
>> Impertinent question: How old are you, Ozgirl?
>
>54

Hmmm. OK. Not too old to have a good IR response to diet. I'm hoping, and
I'm 63 and not really overweight.

>>>So, for the past three days I have added wholegrain cereals, bread,
>>>potatoes
>>>and rice to my diet.
>>
>> On balance, those sound like they are very low in fiber.
>
>Small clarification - brown rice, whole grain bread, and jackets on potato.
>Add that to the fact that they filled me too much to have my usual amount of
>non starch veggies.

I'd still guess they may be fairly low in fiber.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

Ozgirl <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
: Ok. Past experience has shown me that grain fibre has done little for me in
: the BM dept as opposed to vegetable and fruit fibre.

: So, just to see if my memory was better than past reality I experimented on
: myself.

: I am a huge low starch eater and my choice of vegetables and fruit reflect
: that. I eat large quantities of raw (lesser amounts cooked) of fibrousy low
: carb veggies and some low GI fruits.

: Bear in mind also, that my IR is at a point now where I can eat more carbs
: than I could 7 years ago.

: So, for the past three days I have added wholegrain cereals, bread, potatoes
: and rice to my diet. I have still eaten salad and other veggies but in much
: lesser amounts - hard to fit a lot of stuff in after some protein and a
: starchy food. I have still kept up the same fluid and exercise levels.

: I fully expected to go from 3-4 soft, non odorous bm's a day down to one
: offensive style one (sorry folks). I was gobsmacked, I haven't been to
: the loo for bm's for 3 full days. I am well and truly bogged up. Now, what I
: have eaten is the allegedly healthy foods (packed with fibre, blah blah).

: Bg's have been up but not hugely up. This morning I have gone back to my
: normal eating plan. Breakfast was a frittata with plenty of veggies in it,
: a couple of eggs and a little low fat cheese cooked in it. I have already
: had snack #1 - a bowl of raw vegetables dipped in hummus.

: Snack #2 will be my usual smoothie of brewer's yeast (my vit B bomb),
: strawberries, low fat, plain yoghurt and Splenda. Lunch will be canned
: salmon and plateful of raw salad veggies etc etc with avocado slices and
: home made vinaigrette (balsamic and olive oil with garlic/herbs etc).

I do think that any change in diet can set you off your usual pattern.
/after some time on the new regimin your gut woudl probably adjust to the
whole grains. Not that I can see any reason to do this, but things
usually do com eout in the end adn balance out:-)

Wendy

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
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>
> I fully expected to go from 3-4 soft, non odorous bm's a day down to one
> offensive style one (sorry folks). I was gobsmacked, I haven't been to
> the loo for bm's for 3 full days. I am well and truly bogged up. Now, what
> I have eaten is the allegedly healthy foods (packed with fibre, blah
> blah).
>
I feel so much closer to you now. We should have these talks more often

John

"johnniemccoy@" <johnniemccoy@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
> news:13drq2utp2jite6@news.supernews.com...
>>
>> I fully expected to go from 3-4 soft, non odorous bm's a day down to one
>> offensive style one (sorry folks). I was gobsmacked, I haven't been to
>> the loo for bm's for 3 full days. I am well and truly bogged up. Now,
>> what I have eaten is the allegedly healthy foods (packed with fibre, blah
>> blah).
>>
> I feel so much closer to you now. We should have these talks more often

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