On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:29:50 -0500, willbill <trek@worldwide.net>
wrote:
>hemyd wrote:
>
>> <guys@consolidated.net> wrote
>
>>> I see so much of "Lantus misunderstanding". Any
>>> person should be aware of it's activity curve
>>> The understanding the results of multiple daily
>>> schedules is so necessary.
>>>
>>> I use Lantus to maintain basal so I do not have
>>> to lose sleep to maintain basal. Due to
>>> it's nature I cannot determine it's exact effect on my
>>> blood glucose so I found the level that will give me
>>> stable blood sugar overnight.
>>>
>>> i do the rest with 'multiple bolus'.
>
>
>what is your 'bolus' (i.e. fast) insulin??
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>
I now use
humalog because it fast action is easier to manage
But I had to run tests to see how to calculate doses of any bolus
insulin I use.
Three units of excess insulin will take me to near zero on the meter.
It is not easy and before I found out, I was a hell of a mess. Thank
god I am a engineering type and can do the routines. YOU and I are
different in our insulin needs.
I think I figured out why your method
works for you. So you do best with animal insulin. You probably
have an intact glucose release on low glucose so you do well
with that would harm me. Each diabetic must learn their case.
>>> but the need for it should not be guess
>>>
>>> I will remind you that the great NPH, the
>>> "magic solution" full of faults and damn near
>>> killed me in the 80's.
>
>
>which NPH was that? human-NPH?
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>
Bill, I do not think human insulin was available when I started. >
I do remember the concern over the pending shortage of Insulin
and the need for a substitute. I am a person that is familiar with
Chromagraph columns and run's on contaminated materials.
This area was discussed in the better MHD days.
In my case, I was losing basal when NPH was running out in
about 14 hours, Then my body tries to correct by dumping a lot
glucose, To damaging levels.
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>>> Each insulin fit a purpose
>
>
>what purpose did human-NPH fit
>for you?
>
>
>> and the best way to
>>> find what you need+---is a fully qualified responsible
>>> Endo that does the needed tests.Then does follow ups
>
>
>not one of my docs of this past 50 years
>has understood insulin for me (child onset t1)
>
********
>Yeah, but they are all we have. The broad spetrum of
heath is beyond one human mind
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>>> In my opinion this guessing game is not proper for
>>> treating diabetes if any test may give a bit of proper
>>> information. Factual tests.
>
>
>what are "factual tests"?? ************* Engineered tests free from speculation
>
>
>> I maintain that any person about to go on insulin should
>> (1) get to know the insulin
>
>
>fwiw, that takes a minimum of 1-5 years
>
>
>> ... - its intended purpose and its effectiveness over what time,
>> including peak
>
>
>every once in a while, there's something that
>gives a clue on that; but not from any of the
>big 3 insulin makers
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Lilly refused to give me insulin curves. I found the best info on the
AIDA site where I could digitize it easily. Their curves fitted me
well. There was a lot of crayon drawings that were gross.
>
>> (2) how the insulin interacts with foods, especially carbs
>
>
>agreed. 
>
>
>> (3) how insulin is affected by exercise.
>
>
>actually, it's how active insulin (above
>one's basal needs) are affected by exercise
>
>
>> (4) Learn how to recognise hypos -
>> both by measurement and feel - and how
>> to counteract them without overdoing it
>
>
>you're a t2. are you using insulin?
>
>if yes, which?
>
>and for how long?
>
>
>> (5) how to transport and store insulin. There are probably more
>> details.... basically, the user should learn as much as he/she can, and not
>> leave it to the doctor to manage.
>
>
>transport/store is no big deal so long
>as it's "human"-insulin (or beef or pork)
>
>
>bill t1 since '57
Thank you for a good addition.
I am A late onset T1 probably from an abdominal
infection. NO family history of diabetes. I just
recently had a doc try to shove 'Juandia" on me.
He failed to listen
My insulin requirements are not abnormal but
must come from the needle.
On reason I am adamant about all of the
tests. God damn guesses did me harm.
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