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Old 04-05-2008, 10:45 PM
michiko
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Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now and
am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to a
diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a day,
cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check my
blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't overdo
the carbohydrates.

I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using Google
to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave me the
password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right because the
post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.


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Old 04-06-2008, 02:57 AM
Michelle C.
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On Apr 5, 2:03 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now and
> am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to a
> diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a day,
> cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check my
> blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't overdo
> the carbohydrates.
>
> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using Google
> to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave me the
> password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right because the
> post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.


Hello Michiko!

Welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to join us. Sounds like
you're definitely getting started in the right direction. Here is the
first advice we give to all newbies: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm.
Some of the information may be redundant since you are already good
about checking your BG, however, it doesn't hurt to give it a look.
One thing most of here on ASD do is check our BG at both 1 hour and 2
hours after eating. The 1 hour time is when your BG is likely to be
the highest. We strive never to be over 140 mg/dl at one hour and
below 120 at 2 hours after we eat. I mention specifically the one and
two hour times because many medical professionals tell diabetics to
pay attention to only the 2 hour reading. However, if you're like me,
you may have wonderful numbers at 2 hours and have spiked to 180-200
at one hour. I never want to be that high. The latest research
indicates that keeping BG below 140 at all times can prevent or delay
complications. I'm all for that. :-)

Here is link with some good research: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

I'm sure others will be along shortly. Hang around. Ask any question
you have. The only stupid question is an unasked question.

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise

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Old 04-06-2008, 02:57 AM
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"michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
> and am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to a
> diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
> day, cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check
> my blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't
> overdo the carbohydrates.
>
> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using Google
> to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave me the
> password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right because the
> post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.

It did.

Welcome.


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Old 04-06-2008, 05:28 AM
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"michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
> and am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to a
> diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
> day, cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check
> my blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't
> overdo the carbohydrates.
>
> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using Google
> to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave me the
> password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right because the
> post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.


Hi and welcome to the group!


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Old 04-06-2008, 05:28 AM
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"michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
> and am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to
> a diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
> day, cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check
> my blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't
> overdo the carbohydrates.
>
> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
> Google to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave
> me the password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right
> because the post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.


Hi Michiko-san,

Welcome to the club nobody wants to join! Going to a diabetes specialist
sounds like a good plan. It certainly improved my situation.

Rice puts my BG (blood glucose) through the roof. Even a tablespoon. Bread
does about the same. Half a slice is my limit. Potatoes and pastas aren't
quite as bad. The effect is lessened if the carbs are eaten with protein
and later in the day.

You'll find the people in this group very helpful, with a few exceptions.
You'll figure it out. Keep us informed and don't be afraid to ask
questions.

Take care.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
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Old 04-06-2008, 05:28 AM
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"Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2:03 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [ . . . ]

> Hello Michiko!
>
> Welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to join us. Sounds like
> you're definitely getting started in the right direction. Here is the
> first advice we give to all newbies:
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm. Some of the
> information may be redundant since you are already good about checking
> your BG, however, it doesn't hurt to give it a look. One thing most of
> here on ASD do is check our BG at both 1 hour and 2 hours after eating.
> The 1 hour time is when your BG is likely to be the highest. We strive
> never to be over 140 mg/dl at one hour and below 120 at 2 hours after we
> eat. I mention specifically the one and two hour times because many
> medical professionals tell diabetics to pay attention to only the 2 hour
> reading. However, if you're like me, you may have wonderful numbers at 2
> hours and have spiked to 180-200 at one hour. I never want to be that
> high. The latest research indicates that keeping BG below 140 at all
> times can prevent or delay complications. I'm all for that. :-)
>
> Here is link with some good research: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/
>
> I'm sure others will be along shortly. Hang around. Ask any question
> you have. The only stupid question is an unasked question.


Wow, Michelle. You have packed so much valuable information into so few
words. I feel like an idiot for my reply to Michiko. ;-(

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:11 AM
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"Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>
> "michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ft8pen$phd$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
>> and am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to
>> a diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
>> day, cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check
>> my blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't
>> overdo the carbohydrates.
>>
>> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
>> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
>> Google to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave
>> me the password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right
>> because the post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.

> It did.
>
> Welcome.
>

Thank you


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Old 04-06-2008, 10:11 AM
michiko
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"Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8fda0902-b73d-4cc5-ac79-5c444cc6f3a7@o1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 5, 2:03 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
>> and
>> am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to a
>> diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
>> day,
>> cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check my
>> blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't overdo
>> the carbohydrates.
>>
>> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
>> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
>> Google
>> to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave me the
>> password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right because the
>> post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.

>
> Hello Michiko!
>
> Welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to join us. Sounds like
> you're definitely getting started in the right direction. Here is the
> first advice we give to all newbies:
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm.
> Some of the information may be redundant since you are already good
> about checking your BG, however, it doesn't hurt to give it a look.
> One thing most of here on ASD do is check our BG at both 1 hour and 2
> hours after eating. The 1 hour time is when your BG is likely to be
> the highest. We strive never to be over 140 mg/dl at one hour and
> below 120 at 2 hours after we eat. I mention specifically the one and
> two hour times because many medical professionals tell diabetics to
> pay attention to only the 2 hour reading. However, if you're like me,
> you may have wonderful numbers at 2 hours and have spiked to 180-200
> at one hour. I never want to be that high. The latest research
> indicates that keeping BG below 140 at all times can prevent or delay
> complications. I'm all for that. :-)
>
> Here is link with some good research: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/
>
> I'm sure others will be along shortly. Hang around. Ask any question
> you have. The only stupid question is an unasked question.
>
> Best regards,
> Michelle C., T2
> diet & exercise
>

I read the newlydiagnosed and phlaunt links. I have been testing before
meals and 2 hours after meals. All the before meal tests were in the 85-95
range but the 2 hour after meal tests range from 150 to 190. This is going
to be a lot harder than I thought. The doctor that told me to test said that
anything under 180 after meals was ok. He is a Pediatrician, not a diabetes
doctor. He made arrangements for me to see a diabetes specialist next week.


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Old 04-06-2008, 10:11 AM
michiko
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"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ft8pen$phd$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
>> and am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to
>> a diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
>> day, cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check
>> my blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't
>> overdo the carbohydrates.
>>
>> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
>> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
>> Google to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave
>> me the password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right
>> because the post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.

>
> Hi and welcome to the group!
>Hi, I'm glad I found the group. I hope to make many friends here.



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Old 04-06-2008, 10:11 AM
michiko
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"Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> "michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
>> and am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to
>> a diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
>> day, cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check
>> my blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't
>> overdo the carbohydrates.
>>
>> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
>> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
>> Google to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave
>> me the password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right
>> because the post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.

>
> Hi Michiko-san,
>
> Welcome to the club nobody wants to join! Going to a diabetes specialist
> sounds like a good plan. It certainly improved my situation.
>
> Rice puts my BG (blood glucose) through the roof. Even a tablespoon. Bread
> does about the same. Half a slice is my limit. Potatoes and pastas aren't
> quite as bad. The effect is lessened if the carbs are eaten with protein
> and later in the day.
>
> You'll find the people in this group very helpful, with a few exceptions.
> You'll figure it out. Keep us informed and don't be afraid to ask
> questions.
>
> Take care.
>
> --
> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
> They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~


Rice has always been my main food. I'm not sure I can ever give it up
completely. I know I will have to cut down, my after meal tests have been
high and eating rice, even only a little is the cause. I've never eaten a
lot of vegetables and don't like them, except for broccoli and spinach. I
only eat a little meat and chicken but eat a lot of fish and soy products.


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Old 04-06-2008, 10:11 AM
Oleg Lego
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 22:12:17 -0700, michiko posted:

>
>"Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:8fda0902-b73d-4cc5-ac79-5c444cc6f3a7@o1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 5, 2:03 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
>>> and
>>> am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to a
>>> diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
>>> day,
>>> cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check my
>>> blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't overdo
>>> the carbohydrates.
>>>
>>> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
>>> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
>>> Google
>>> to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave me the
>>> password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right because the
>>> post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.

>>
>> Hello Michiko!
>>
>> Welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to join us. Sounds like
>> you're definitely getting started in the right direction. Here is the
>> first advice we give to all newbies:
>> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm.
>> Some of the information may be redundant since you are already good
>> about checking your BG, however, it doesn't hurt to give it a look.
>> One thing most of here on ASD do is check our BG at both 1 hour and 2
>> hours after eating. The 1 hour time is when your BG is likely to be
>> the highest. We strive never to be over 140 mg/dl at one hour and
>> below 120 at 2 hours after we eat. I mention specifically the one and
>> two hour times because many medical professionals tell diabetics to
>> pay attention to only the 2 hour reading. However, if you're like me,
>> you may have wonderful numbers at 2 hours and have spiked to 180-200
>> at one hour. I never want to be that high. The latest research
>> indicates that keeping BG below 140 at all times can prevent or delay
>> complications. I'm all for that. :-)
>>
>> Here is link with some good research: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/
>>
>> I'm sure others will be along shortly. Hang around. Ask any question
>> you have. The only stupid question is an unasked question.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michelle C., T2
>> diet & exercise
>>

>I read the newlydiagnosed and phlaunt links. I have been testing before
>meals and 2 hours after meals. All the before meal tests were in the 85-95
>range but the 2 hour after meal tests range from 150 to 190. This is going
>to be a lot harder than I thought. The doctor that told me to test said that
>anything under 180 after meals was ok. He is a Pediatrician, not a diabetes
>doctor. He made arrangements for me to see a diabetes specialist next week.


The 180 figure seems to be the limit most doctors and diabetes
associations recommend staying under at 2 hours PP (Post Prandial,
meaning after eating). Most here think that's too high.

You might want to have a look at
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045678.php

It speaks of damage at various blood glucose levels.




--
Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada.
DX 24 Aug 07. D&E
Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin
Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08)
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:11 AM
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"michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > "michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> [ . . . ]

> Rice has always been my main food. I'm not sure I can ever give it up
> completely. I know I will have to cut down, my after meal tests have been
> high and eating rice, even only a little is the cause. I've never eaten a
> lot of vegetables and don't like them, except for broccoli and spinach. I
> only eat a little meat and chicken but eat a lot of fish and soy
> products.


My wife is Thai, so there's always a lot of rice in the house. I love rice
soup and sticky rice. Alas, very rarely and very little now. You eat a lot
of fish, eh? So do I. Also uni, ebi, kai, kani, ika,and hamaguri. All very
good for me.

From http://tinyurl.com/5qxy3t and a few of my [Nick notes].

Diabetic Low Glycemic Index Diet:

Dietary control of diabetes comes down to 2 simple principles:

a. Eat less (fewer calories) to maintain ideal body weight.
b. Eat low glycemic index foods that do not turn into sugar quickly

The Glycemic Index (GI)

The glycemic index represents the magnitude of the increase in blood
glucose that occurs after ingestion of the food. This index measures how
much your blood sugar increases in the two or three hours after
eating.

[Nick note: Don't forget that one hour post prandial (after you start
eating) reading, too!]

When you make use of the glycemic index to prepare healthy meals, it helps
to keep your blood sugar levels under control. GI tends to be lower for
foods that are present in relatively large particles, minimally processed,
and are ingested along with fat and protein.

Below are the general guidelines to what is considered high or low Glycemic
Index (GI) foods.

High GI Foods

The following foods are considered unacceptable:

· Foods containing sugar, honey, molasses, & corn syrup.
· Breads - all white breads, all white flour products, corn breads
· Grains - rice, rice products, millet, corn, corn products
· Cereals - all cereals except those on the Low GI List below
· Pasta - thick, large pasta shapes
· Fruits - bananas, watermelon, pineapple, raisins
· Vegetables - potatoes, corn, carrots, beets, turnips, parsnips
· Snacks - potato chips, corn chips, popcorn, rice cakes, pretzels
· Alcohol - beer, liqueurs, all liquor except red wine

[Nick note: I drink a lot of Vodka and some Scotch, Bourbon and Rum, with
no ill effects. I've gotta check what Junmai Daiginjo does to my BG ;-)]

Low GI Foods

Look at what you can have:

· Breads - whole rye, pumpernickel, whole wheat pita
· Grains - barley, bulgur, kasha
· Cereals - Special K, All Bran, Fiber One, regular oatmeal
· Pasta - whole-wheat pasta, bean threads
· All meats
· All dairy products (no sugars)
· Whole Fruits - all except the High GI fruits above
· Green leafy Vegetables - all except the High GI vegetables listed above
· Snacks - nuts, olives, cheese, pita chips, fried pork rinds
· Alcohol - red wine
· Misc. - olives, eggs, peanut butter (no sugar)

[Nick note: Maitake or any mushrooms, Chile peppers, garlic, Tofu, seaweed
(mmmm - wakame, nori), most cheeses, Celery, Bitter Melon [YES!], Onion,
Garlic, Globe Artichoke, Jerusalem artichoke and Asparagus are really good
for you.]

Take care.

--
Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:32 PM
W. Baker
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michiko <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote:
: >
: Thank you
snipped just to make it easier for us all to read.

Welcome and we hope to be hearing from you with lots of questions and
progress.

just want to add something about the Metformin, which I also take
in the amount you do.

First, it takes a few weeks to get up to full effectivelness, so it may
not yet be doing all it can for ou.

Second- it can have quite a side affect with gastric distres and the
galloping runs for SOME, not all people. That happened to me some years
after I started aking it. What has helped me was to switchto the extended
release version of the drug which seems to keep my system from overloading
at any one time and I have no stomach or bowel distress.

Just file this in your head shuld you need to know it sometime down the
line.

Oh-one other thing. I don't know how your numbers are after breakfast,
but many of us have problems at that time with carbs. After
experimentation, I found a breakfast that works for Me. You, of course,
would have to test it for yourself, aas we differ greatly on our reaction
to specific carbs. I take 1/3-1/2 C of cottage cheese, add SMALL amounts
of 3-4 fruits, like 2 strawberries, a handful of other berries like blue,
rasp, black, bosen, etc, 1 apricot,fresh or dried, 1/5-1/6 of a mango,
half a peach, 4-5 fresh cherries in sason, 1/2 of a clementine orange, a
thin smile slice of canteloupe, etc. I then top this with 1/3-1/4 C, (I
use a big spoon and approximate). I have this with my Crystal Light
"Sunrise" classic orange fake orange juice and my black coffee and am
usually in the low 100's ar 2 hours.

Good luck to you.

Wendy
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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"Oleg Lego" <rat@atatatat.com> wrote in message
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>
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 22:12:17 -0700, michiko posted:
>
>>
>>"Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:8fda0902-b73d-4cc5-ac79-5c444cc6f3a7@o1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Apr 5, 2:03 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month
>>>> now
>>>> and
>>>> am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to a
>>>> diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
>>>> day,
>>>> cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check my
>>>> blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't
>>>> overdo
>>>> the carbohydrates.
>>>>
>>>> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up.
>>>> I
>>>> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
>>>> Google
>>>> to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave me
>>>> the
>>>> password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right because
>>>> the
>>>> post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.
>>>
>>> Hello Michiko!
>>>
>>> Welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to join us. Sounds like
>>> you're definitely getting started in the right direction. Here is the
>>> first advice we give to all newbies:
>>> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm.
>>> Some of the information may be redundant since you are already good
>>> about checking your BG, however, it doesn't hurt to give it a look.
>>> One thing most of here on ASD do is check our BG at both 1 hour and 2
>>> hours after eating. The 1 hour time is when your BG is likely to be
>>> the highest. We strive never to be over 140 mg/dl at one hour and
>>> below 120 at 2 hours after we eat. I mention specifically the one and
>>> two hour times because many medical professionals tell diabetics to
>>> pay attention to only the 2 hour reading. However, if you're like me,
>>> you may have wonderful numbers at 2 hours and have spiked to 180-200
>>> at one hour. I never want to be that high. The latest research
>>> indicates that keeping BG below 140 at all times can prevent or delay
>>> complications. I'm all for that. :-)
>>>
>>> Here is link with some good research: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/
>>>
>>> I'm sure others will be along shortly. Hang around. Ask any question
>>> you have. The only stupid question is an unasked question.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Michelle C., T2
>>> diet & exercise
>>>

>>I read the newlydiagnosed and phlaunt links. I have been testing before
>>meals and 2 hours after meals. All the before meal tests were in the 85-95
>>range but the 2 hour after meal tests range from 150 to 190. This is going
>>to be a lot harder than I thought. The doctor that told me to test said
>>that
>>anything under 180 after meals was ok. He is a Pediatrician, not a
>>diabetes
>>doctor. He made arrangements for me to see a diabetes specialist next
>>week.

>
> The 180 figure seems to be the limit most doctors and diabetes
> associations recommend staying under at 2 hours PP (Post Prandial,
> meaning after eating). Most here think that's too high.
>
> You might want to have a look at
> http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045678.php
>
> It speaks of damage at various blood glucose levels.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada.
> DX 24 Aug 07. D&E
> Metformin 2000mg, Ramipril, Simvastatin
> Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08)

I tested before breakfast and 1 and 2 hours after. I was shocked by the 1
hour test. The before test was 91 the 1 hour test was 211-shock- and the 2
hour test was 161. After seeing the 1 hour test I kept thinking about the
first paragraph of the phlaunt link and permanent organ damage. It was not
that high for very long but maybe I already have some damage. I have been
taking this diabetes to lightly, now I am getting scared.
I only had what I consider a very minimum breakfast, 1/2 cup cooked rice and
2 scrambled eggs and some sliced nori and shoyu. This is a lot less than I
would normally eat and I was hungry only 2 hours after eating. I'm having a
hard time dealing with my present situation already and diabetes will make
it a lot harder.



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Old 04-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
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> michiko <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote:
> : >
> : Thank you
> snipped just to make it easier for us all to read.
>
> Welcome and we hope to be hearing from you with lots of questions and
> progress.
>
> just want to add something about the Metformin, which I also take
> in the amount you do.
>
> First, it takes a few weeks to get up to full effectivelness, so it may
> not yet be doing all it can for ou.
>
> Second- it can have quite a side affect with gastric distres and the
> galloping runs for SOME, not all people. That happened to me some years
> after I started aking it. What has helped me was to switchto the extended
> release version of the drug which seems to keep my system from overloading
> at any one time and I have no stomach or bowel distress.
>
> Just file this in your head shuld you need to know it sometime down the
> line.
>
> Oh-one other thing. I don't know how your numbers are after breakfast,
> but many of us have problems at that time with carbs. After
> experimentation, I found a breakfast that works for Me. You, of course,
> would have to test it for yourself, aas we differ greatly on our reaction
> to specific carbs. I take 1/3-1/2 C of cottage cheese, add SMALL amounts
> of 3-4 fruits, like 2 strawberries, a handful of other berries like blue,
> rasp, black, bosen, etc, 1 apricot,fresh or dried, 1/5-1/6 of a mango,
> half a peach, 4-5 fresh cherries in sason, 1/2 of a clementine orange, a
> thin smile slice of canteloupe, etc. I then top this with 1/3-1/4 C, (I
> use a big spoon and approximate). I have this with my Crystal Light
> "Sunrise" classic orange fake orange juice and my black coffee and am
> usually in the low 100's ar 2 hours.
>
> Good luck to you.
>
> Wendy


My tests this morning was 211 1 hour aftering breakfast. I don't think I
could get by on what you eat. I'm not sure what I should do now, maybe I
should just eat meat, fish and tofu until I see the diabetes doctor. I don't
want to get organ damage like I read about.


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Old 04-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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"Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> "michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> > "michiko" <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> [ . . . ]

>> Rice has always been my main food. I'm not sure I can ever give it up
>> completely. I know I will have to cut down, my after meal tests have been
>> high and eating rice, even only a little is the cause. I've never eaten a
>> lot of vegetables and don't like them, except for broccoli and spinach. I
>> only eat a little meat and chicken but eat a lot of fish and soy
>> products.

>
> My wife is Thai, so there's always a lot of rice in the house. I love rice
> soup and sticky rice. Alas, very rarely and very little now. You eat a lot
> of fish, eh? So do I. Also uni, ebi, kai, kani, ika,and hamaguri. All very
> good for me.
>
> From http://tinyurl.com/5qxy3t and a few of my [Nick notes].
>
> Diabetic Low Glycemic Index Diet:
>
> Dietary control of diabetes comes down to 2 simple principles:
>
> a. Eat less (fewer calories) to maintain ideal body weight.
> b. Eat low glycemic index foods that do not turn into sugar quickly
>
> The Glycemic Index (GI)
>
> The glycemic index represents the magnitude of the increase in blood
> glucose that occurs after ingestion of the food. This index measures how
> much your blood sugar increases in the two or three hours after
> eating.
>
> [Nick note: Don't forget that one hour post prandial (after you start
> eating) reading, too!]
>
> When you make use of the glycemic index to prepare healthy meals, it helps
> to keep your blood sugar levels under control. GI tends to be lower for
> foods that are present in relatively large particles, minimally
> processed,
> and are ingested along with fat and protein.
>
> Below are the general guidelines to what is considered high or low
> Glycemic
> Index (GI) foods.
>
> High GI Foods
>
> The following foods are considered unacceptable:
>
> · Foods containing sugar, honey, molasses, & corn syrup.
> · Breads - all white breads, all white flour products, corn breads
> · Grains - rice, rice products, millet, corn, corn products
> · Cereals - all cereals except those on the Low GI List below
> · Pasta - thick, large pasta shapes
> · Fruits - bananas, watermelon, pineapple, raisins
> · Vegetables - potatoes, corn, carrots, beets, turnips, parsnips
> · Snacks - potato chips, corn chips, popcorn, rice cakes, pretzels
> · Alcohol - beer, liqueurs, all liquor except red wine
>
> [Nick note: I drink a lot of Vodka and some Scotch, Bourbon and Rum, with
> no ill effects. I've gotta check what Junmai Daiginjo does to my BG ;-)]
>
> Low GI Foods
>
> Look at what you can have:
>
> · Breads - whole rye, pumpernickel, whole wheat pita
> · Grains - barley, bulgur, kasha
> · Cereals - Special K, All Bran, Fiber One, regular oatmeal
> · Pasta - whole-wheat pasta, bean threads
> · All meats
> · All dairy products (no sugars)
> · Whole Fruits - all except the High GI fruits above
> · Green leafy Vegetables - all except the High GI vegetables listed above
> · Snacks - nuts, olives, cheese, pita chips, fried pork rinds
> · Alcohol - red wine
> · Misc. - olives, eggs, peanut butter (no sugar)
>
> [Nick note: Maitake or any mushrooms, Chile peppers, garlic, Tofu, seaweed
> (mmmm - wakame, nori), most cheeses, Celery, Bitter Melon [YES!], Onion,
> Garlic, Globe Artichoke, Jerusalem artichoke and Asparagus are really good
> for you.]
>
> Take care.
>
> --
> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
> They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

Rice has always been 80-90% of my diet. I don't know what I'll do now that I
can't eat it any more. I do like tofu with nori shoyu but I never liked
vegetables except for broccoli and spinach. I hope the diabetes doctor can
give me some different medication to allow me to eat a little rice. For
lunch I plan on eating canned salmon, and canned spinach.


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Old 04-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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michiko wrote:
> "Michelle C." <bookbug2005@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8fda0902-b73d-4cc5-ac79-5c444cc6f3a7@o1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 5, 2:03 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
>>> and
>>> am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to a
>>> diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
>>> day,
>>> cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check my
>>> blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't overdo
>>> the carbohydrates.
>>>
>>> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
>>> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
>>> Google
>>> to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave me the
>>> password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right because the
>>> post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.

>> Hello Michiko!
>>
>> Welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to join us. Sounds like
>> you're definitely getting started in the right direction. Here is the
>> first advice we give to all newbies:
>> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm.
>> Some of the information may be redundant since you are already good
>> about checking your BG, however, it doesn't hurt to give it a look.
>> One thing most of here on ASD do is check our BG at both 1 hour and 2
>> hours after eating. The 1 hour time is when your BG is likely to be
>> the highest. We strive never to be over 140 mg/dl at one hour and
>> below 120 at 2 hours after we eat. I mention specifically the one and
>> two hour times because many medical professionals tell diabetics to
>> pay attention to only the 2 hour reading. However, if you're like me,
>> you may have wonderful numbers at 2 hours and have spiked to 180-200
>> at one hour. I never want to be that high. The latest research
>> indicates that keeping BG below 140 at all times can prevent or delay
>> complications. I'm all for that. :-)
>>
>> Here is link with some good research: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/
>>
>> I'm sure others will be along shortly. Hang around. Ask any question
>> you have. The only stupid question is an unasked question.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michelle C., T2
>> diet & exercise
>>

> I read the newlydiagnosed and phlaunt links. I have been testing before
> meals and 2 hours after meals. All the before meal tests were in the 85-95
> range but the 2 hour after meal tests range from 150 to 190. This is going
> to be a lot harder than I thought. The doctor that told me to test said that
> anything under 180 after meals was ok. He is a Pediatrician, not a diabetes
> doctor. He made arrangements for me to see a diabetes specialist next week.
>
>

ya, the ADA (American Diabetes Association) says that 180 2 hours after
meals is a good number (i assume this is for type 1 diabetics on insulin)

the AACE (American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists) wants this
number to be under 140

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Old 04-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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michiko <mtmichikot@gmail.com> wrote:
: > Dx A1c 8.1 : Latest 5.1 (4 Mar 08)
: I tested before breakfast and 1 and 2 hours after. I was shocked by the 1
: hour test. The before test was 91 the 1 hour test was 211-shock- and the 2
: hour test was 161. After seeing the 1 hour test I kept thinking about the
: first paragraph of the phlaunt link and permanent organ damage. It was not
: that high for very long but maybe I already have some damage. I have been
: taking this diabetes to lightly, now I am getting scared.
: I only had what I consider a very minimum breakfast, 1/2 cup cooked rice and
: 2 scrambled eggs and some sliced nori and shoyu. This is a lot less than I
: would normally eat and I was hungry only 2 hours after eating. I'm having a
: hard time dealing with my present situation already and diabetes will make
: it a lot harder.

First, DON'T PANIC! Your breakfast number are high, but it is early days
for you and you have time to find your way and establich a good diet for
you.

Second, Most of us find we cannot tolerate many carbs in the morning, but
can have a bit more later in the day. Your fasting(before breakfast)
number is excellent! My diabetes doctor(Endocrinologist) want's me at
less that 110 adn I prefer to be below 100. Your breakfast is not good
for a diabetic. The killer is the 1/2 cup of rice, which is about 20-25
grams of carb in ome little portion. The advice books all talk of 1/3 cup
aas a serving and een that woul dbe a great deal for breakfast. It si
also a fast acting carb so gives you a quick spike in blood sugar numbers.

You have to think differently about breakfast, as I wrote in my earlier
post. Others may have good suggestions that maywork for you too, but you
will continue to have problems with rice even at later meals. This is
very difficult or those used to an Asian diet with rice as a staple, but
unfortnately, it is a problem.

Keep up with your testing problem adn ry your breakfast tomorrow without
the rice (and don't take any other strch to replace it) and see how your 1
hour test is.

You will continue to learn adn find wht you can manage and won't have to
be afraid. because you know you are not causing your body harm.

Wendy
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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On Apr 5, 9:23 pm, Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> "Michelle C." <bookbug2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 5, 2:03 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > [ . . . ]

> > Hello Michiko!

>
> > Welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to join us. Sounds like
> > you're definitely getting started in the right direction. Here is the
> > first advice we give to all newbies:
> >http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm. Some of the
> > information may be redundant since you are already good about checking
> > your BG, however, it doesn't hurt to give it a look. One thing most of
> > here on ASD do is check our BG at both 1 hour and 2 hours after eating.
> > The 1 hour time is when your BG is likely to be the highest. We strive
> > never to be over 140 mg/dl at one hour and below 120 at 2 hours after we
> > eat. I mention specifically the one and two hour times because many
> > medical professionals tell diabetics to pay attention to only the 2 hour
> > reading. However, if you're like me, you may have wonderful numbers at 2
> > hours and have spiked to 180-200 at one hour. I never want to be that
> > high. The latest research indicates that keeping BG below 140 at all
> > times can prevent or delay complications. I'm all for that. :-)

>
> > Here is link with some good research: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

>
> > I'm sure others will be along shortly. Hang around. Ask any question
> > you have. The only stupid question is an unasked question.

>
> Wow, Michelle. You have packed so much valuable information into so few
> words. I feel like an idiot for my reply to Michiko. ;-(
>
> --
> Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They
> are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~


I don't think your response sounded idiotic! You gave Michiko very
practical information--different from mine. That's why it's important
that we all contribute. You never know what might click with a new
diagnosed person's previous knowledge, or what might provide
clarification for something someone else has posted. :-)

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:56 PM
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x-no-archive: yes

I hope you'll all forgive me if I'm wrong, but is anyone else getting a
very strong Andrea2/Terry vibe?

Susan
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:56 PM
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On Apr 5, 10:12 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Michelle C." <bookbug2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8fda0902-b73d-4cc5-ac79-5c444cc6f3a7@o1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 2:03 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
> >> and
> >> am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to a
> >> diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
> >> day,
> >> cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check my
> >> blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't overdo
> >> the carbohydrates.

>
> >> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
> >> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
> >> Google
> >> to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave me the
> >> password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right because the
> >> post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.

>
> > Hello Michiko!

>
> > Welcome to the group. I'm sorry you had to join us. Sounds like
> > you're definitely getting started in the right direction. Here is the
> > first advice we give to all newbies:
> >http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm.
> > Some of the information may be redundant since you are already good
> > about checking your BG, however, it doesn't hurt to give it a look.
> > One thing most of here on ASD do is check our BG at both 1 hour and 2
> > hours after eating. The 1 hour time is when your BG is likely to be
> > the highest. We strive never to be over 140 mg/dl at one hour and
> > below 120 at 2 hours after we eat. I mention specifically the one and
> > two hour times because many medical professionals tell diabetics to
> > pay attention to only the 2 hour reading. However, if you're like me,
> > you may have wonderful numbers at 2 hours and have spiked to 180-200
> > at one hour. I never want to be that high. The latest research
> > indicates that keeping BG below 140 at all times can prevent or delay
> > complications. I'm all for that. :-)

>
> > Here is link with some good research: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/

>
> > I'm sure others will be along shortly. Hang around. Ask any question
> > you have. The only stupid question is an unasked question.

>
> > Best regards,
> > Michelle C., T2
> > diet & exercise

>
> I read the newlydiagnosed and phlaunt links. I have been testing before
> meals and 2 hours after meals. All the before meal tests were in the 85-95
> range but the 2 hour after meal tests range from 150 to 190. This is going
> to be a lot harder than I thought. The doctor that told me to test said that
> anything under 180 after meals was ok. He is a Pediatrician, not a diabetes
> doctor. He made arrangements for me to see a diabetes specialist next week.


Hi Michiko,

I suspected as much. Medical professionals often have looser
standards than we do here on ASD, since we strive to keep our BGs as
close to the norm as possible. Unfortunately, abiding by only the
loose standards is more likely to lead to those nasty diabetic
complications.

There are lots of theories as to why the medical professionals don't
often recommend the tightest BG possible, but one that is batted
around a lot is that many diabetics are so non-compliant that the
doctors don't want to set the bar too low for fear that diabetics
won't try at all. You'd be surprised at the statistics which indicate
many diabetics won't even take their meds like they are supposed to,
much less modify their diets or exercise.

Okay, so don't let the fact that you're going to have to work harder
get you down. You can do this! We've all been where you are. You're
already doing really well because you are in the habit of checking
your BG, and you're being very proactive. So start testing your one
hour post-prandial BGs and keep copious notes on what you ate and the
amount. While some of us find that we need to eliminate some foods,
often we just need to reduce the amount of a suspect food. Secondly,
you might want to consider eating 6 smaller meals per day instead of
the traditional 3. One factor in BG spikes is the amount of food you
eat. The more you eat, the more insulin your body needs. Spreading
out your meals is less taxing. A walk after meals can help bring the
BG down too. In fact, you didn't mention exercise, but if you don't
have a regular exercise routine, adding a daily walk can do wonders.
Some people bike, some people swim, you get the idea. Exercise is
important.

If you find that adding the one hour post-prandial test to your
regimen is taxing your supply of glucometer strips, imo--and it is
just my opinion--most times you could probably eliminate the before
meal test since those numbers look good. You might spot check it once
in awhile to make sure there are no changes, but it appears that it is
your after meal numbers that need the work.

And one last thing, if you need to lose weight (some diabetics don't),
as you do, your BGs will be easier to control.

Don't want to overwhelm you, so I'll stop here. Keep us posted on
your progress!

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise

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Old 04-06-2008, 09:56 PM
Michelle C.
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On Apr 5, 10:25 pm, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>
> news:20080406001419.775$yG@newsreader.com...
>
>
>
> > "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello, I am Michiko Tabuchi. I've been a diabetic for almost a month now
> >> and am just getting started in my treatment schedule. I will be going to
> >> a diabetes specialist next week. Now I am taking Metformin, 1000 twice a
> >> day, cut out all sugar products and am watching my carbohydrates. I check
> >> my blood glucose 6 times a day, the tests are good as long as I don't
> >> overdo the carbohydrates.

>
> >> I read the post with the link for motzarella news server and signed up. I
> >> connect to the internet from my neighbors wi-fi and have been using
> >> Google to read this group. It's ok, my neighbor knows about it and gave
> >> me the password. I tried posting from google but didn't do it right
> >> because the post never showed up. I hope this post does show up.

>
> > Hi Michiko-san,

>
> > Welcome to the club nobody wants to join! Going to a diabetes specialist
> > sounds like a good plan. It certainly improved my situation.

>
> > Rice puts my BG (blood glucose) through the roof. Even a tablespoon. Bread
> > does about the same. Half a slice is my limit. Potatoes and pastas aren't
> > quite as bad. The effect is lessened if the carbs are eaten with protein
> > and later in the day.

>
> > You'll find the people in this group very helpful, with a few exceptions.
> > You'll figure it out. Keep us informed and don't be afraid to ask
> > questions.

>
> > Take care.

>
> > --
> > Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families!
> > I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War.
> > They
> > are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
> > forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

>
> Rice has always been my main food. I'm not sure I can ever give it up
> completely. I know I will have to cut down, my after meal tests have been
> high and eating rice, even only a little is the cause. I've never eaten a
> lot of vegetables and don't like them, except for broccoli and spinach. I
> only eat a little meat and chicken but eat a lot of fish and soy products.


Michiko,

I understand about rice being a mainstay of your diet; for me it was
potatoes. You'll be surprised what you can do. :-) As for the
veggies, even if you've got to eat broccoli and spinach with every
meal, those are two very good veggies for a diabetic. You might also
consider some lower glucose fruits like berries or peaches. Fish and
soy are wonderful! I don't know if you like it, but dairy is okay
too. Although a lot of doctors don't like the high fat content in
dairy, most of us here have found that once our BGs are under control
the cholesterol and triglycerides come in line too. Olive oil is one
of the healthiest fats, so don't be afraid to use it. You might also
add in some nuts.

Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:56 PM
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On Apr 6, 9:44*am, "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tested before breakfast and 1 and 2 hours after. I was shocked by

the 1
> hour test. The before test was 91 the 1 hour test was 211-shock- and the 2
> hour test was 161. After seeing the 1 hour test I kept thinking about the


> I only had what I consider a very minimum breakfast, 1/2 cup cooked rice and
> 2 scrambled eggs and some sliced nori and shoyu. This is a lot less than I
> would normally eat and I was hungry only 2 hours after eating. I'm having a
> hard time dealing with my present situation already and diabetes will make
> it a lot harder.


High blood glucose levels can make you hungry. The glucose is
circulating in your blood instead of getting to your muscles where it
needs to be. If you are hungry and have eaten, test to see if your
levels are high. That could be the cause of your hunger instead of
true hunger.

If your levels are high, or you want to eat a higher carb meal, try
exercising. It could be as simple as going for walk, or try some
stairs, or if you can get an exercise bike. If you exercise starting
30 minutes after eating, you can reduce the peak of your spike. It is
better to add exercise than more medication. Keep testing to see what
balance of carbs and level and duration of exercise works for you.

Keep at it, controlling your blood glucose levels is something you can
do. The 140/120 numbers are your goal. If you dont reach it, vow to do
better next time. If most of your numbers are good, an occasional high
number is not something to be scared of, just acknowledge it, and try
to do better next time. At the beginning while you are still learning,
you will have more high numbers, but as you figure how things work for
you personally, you will find getting good numbers becomes more
routine. You are getting good information, and trying and testing
things for yourself. That is most of the battle.


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Old 04-06-2008, 09:56 PM
Michelle C.
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Default Re: new diabetic

On Apr 6, 12:40 am, Nick Cramer <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Nick Cramer" <n_cramerS...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > > "michiko" <mtmichi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> [ . . . ]

> > Rice has always been my main food. I'm not sure I can ever give it up
> > completely. I know I will have to cut down, my after meal tests have been
> > high and eating rice, even only a little is the cause. I've never eaten a
> > lot of vegetables and don't like them, except for broccoli and spinach. I
> > only eat a little meat and chicken but eat a lot of fish and soy
> > products.

>
> My wife is Thai, so there's always a lot of rice in the house. I love rice
> soup and sticky rice. Alas, very rarely and very little now. You eat a lot
> of fish, eh? So do I. Also uni, ebi, kai, kani, ika,and hamaguri. All very
> good for me.
>
> Fromhttp://tinyurl.com/5qxy3tand a few of my [Nick notes].
>
> Diabetic Low Glycemic Index Diet:
>
> Dietary control of diabetes comes down to 2 simple principles:
>
> a. Eat less (fewer calories) to maintain ideal body weight.
> b. Eat low glycemic index foods that do not turn into sugar quickly
>
> The Glycemic Index (GI)
>
> The glycemic index represents the magnitude of the increase in blood
> glucose that occurs after ingestion of the food. This index measures how
> much your blood sugar increases in the two or three hours after
> eating.
>
> [Nick note: Don't forget that one hour post prandial (after you start
> eating) reading, too!]
>
> When you make use of the glycemic index to prepare healthy meals, it helps
> to keep your blood sugar levels under control. GI tends to be lower for
> foods that are present in relatively large particles, minimally processed,
> and are ingested along with fat and protein.
>
> Below are the general guidelines to what is considered high or low Glycemic
> Index (GI) foods.
>
> High GI Foods
>
> The following foods are considered unacceptable:
>
> · Foods containing sugar, honey, molasses, & corn syrup.
> · Breads - all white breads, all white flour products, corn breads
> · Grains - rice, rice products, millet, corn, corn products
> · Cereals - all cereals except those on the Low GI List below
> · Pasta - thick, large pasta shapes
> · Fruits - bananas, watermelon, pineapple, raisins
> · Vegetables - potatoes, corn, carrots, beets, turnips, parsnips
> · Snacks - potato chips, corn chips, popcorn, rice cakes, pretzels
> · Alcohol - beer, liqueurs, all liquor except red wine
>
> [Nick note: I drink a lot of Vodka and some Scotch, Bourbon and Rum, with
> no ill effects. I've gotta check what Junmai Daiginjo does to my BG ;-)]
>
> Low GI Foods
>
> Look at what you can have:
>
> · Breads - whole rye, pumpernickel, whole wheat pita
> · Grains - barley, bulgur, kasha
> · Cereals - Special K, All Bran, Fiber One, regular oatmeal
> · Pasta - whole-wheat pasta, bean threads
> · All meats
> · All dairy products (no sugars)
> · Whole Fruits - all except the High GI fruits above
> · Green leafy Vegetables - all except the High GI vegetables listed above
> · Snacks - nuts, olives, cheese, pita chips, fried pork rinds
> · Alcohol - red wine
> · Misc. - olives, eggs, peanut butter (no sugar)
>
> [Nick note: Maitake or any mushrooms, Chile peppers, garlic, Tofu, seaweed
> (mmmm - wakame, nori), most cheeses, Celery, Bitter Melon [YES!], Onion,
> Garlic, Globe Artichoke, Jerusalem artichoke and Asparagus are really good
> for you.]
>
> Take care.
>
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Nick, you ought to keep a copy of th