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Old 06-17-2007, 07:11 PM
Craig
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Default New Drug... Maybe

Found this in the print version of " The Sunday Telegraph" so I don't have a
URL. Have quoted the article in it's entirety:

"Drug Made From Pigs"
A controversial medication made out of pig cells is being tested in diabetic
patients in Russia because scientists are not allowed to conduct trials in
Australia.
A 26-year-old man last week became the first patient to be injected with
DiabeCell, a world -first product developed by Australian company Living
Cell Technologies (LCT), at a Moscow hospital.
"The benefits could be enormous and the ultimate goal will be to get people
off insulin injections", LCT medical director Bob Elliot said.

Best Wishes,
Craig, Type 2
NSW, Australia


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Old 06-17-2007, 07:11 PM
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" Craig" <craigandbeth@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:Qq8di.15158$wH4.11013@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Found this in the print version of " The Sunday Telegraph" so I don't have
> a URL. Have quoted the article in it's entirety:
>
> "Drug Made From Pigs"
> A controversial medication made out of pig cells is being tested in
> diabetic patients in Russia because scientists are not allowed to conduct
> trials in Australia.
> A 26-year-old man last week became the first patient to be injected with
> DiabeCell, a world -first product developed by Australian company Living
> Cell Technologies (LCT), at a Moscow hospital.
> "The benefits could be enormous and the ultimate goal will be to get
> people off insulin injections", LCT medical director Bob Elliot said.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Craig, Type 2
> NSW, Australia


Here's the URL to the company website.
http://www.lct.com.au/research.php
>
>



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Old 06-17-2007, 07:11 PM
Loretta Eisenberg
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Craig, this will be something to watch. Of course, it will probably
take years to get it past the the development process and the FDA

Loretta

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Old 06-17-2007, 07:11 PM
Bill
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Default Re: New Drug... Maybe - link; it's for type 1

> " Craig" <craigandbeth@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> "Drug Made From Pigs"
>> A controversial medication made out of pig cells is being tested in
>> diabetic patients in Russia because scientists are not allowed to
>> conduct trials in Australia.
>> A 26-year-old man last week became the first patient to be injected
>> with DiabeCell, a world -first product developed by Australian company
>> Living Cell Technologies (LCT), at a Moscow hospital. "The benefits
>> could be enormous and the ultimate goal will be to get people off
>> insulin injections", LCT medical director Bob Elliot said.


> Here's the URL to the company website.
> http://www.lct.com.au/research.php



http://www.lct.com.au/information/treating diabetes - diabecell may07.pdf
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:42 AM
Craig
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"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Craig, this will be something to watch. Of course, it will probably
> take years to get it past the the development process and the FDA
>
> Loretta


Hi Loretta,
I guess it is nice to have hope.The checks and measures in place with the
approval process are a good thing though, cause in most cases it should
prevent a drug that has unwanted side effects from reaching the market.
It is exciting to think of the number of people who could be helped or cured
by such a development.

Hope you are well today.
Craig
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:59 PM
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On Jun 17, 3:55 am, " Craig" <craigandb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Found this in the print version of " The Sunday Telegraph" so I don't have a
> URL. Have quoted the article in it's entirety:
>
> "Drug Made From Pigs"
> A controversial medication made out of pig cells is being tested in diabetic
> patients in Russia because scientists are not allowed to conduct trials in
> Australia.
> A 26-year-old man last week became the first patient to be injected with
> DiabeCell, a world -first product developed by Australian company Living
> Cell Technologies (LCT), at a Moscow hospital.
> "The benefits could be enormous and the ultimate goal will be to get people
> off insulin injections", LCT medical director Bob Elliot said.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Craig, Type 2
> NSW, Australia


Sounds like a really great thing to watch.

KC

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Old 06-18-2007, 03:31 PM
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KC wrote:

> On Jun 17, 3:55 am, " Craig" <craigandb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>Found this in the print version of " The Sunday Telegraph" so I don't have a
>>URL. Have quoted the article in it's entirety:
>>
>>"Drug Made From Pigs"
>>A controversial medication made out of pig cells is being tested in diabetic
>>patients in Russia because scientists are not allowed to conduct trials in
>>Australia.
>>A 26-year-old man last week became the first patient to be injected with
>>DiabeCell, a world -first product developed by Australian company Living
>>Cell Technologies (LCT), at a Moscow hospital.
>>"The benefits could be enormous and the ultimate goal will be to get people
>>off insulin injections", LCT medical director Bob Elliot said.
>>


A doctor from New Zealand moved to Mexico some time back because the
experiments of implanting pig islets in humans could not get government
approval. The concept is not new, but the encapsule design itself
probably is. A Google search for terms
Mexico+encapsuled+pig+islet+transplants resulted in 343 finds -
http://tinyurl.com/2by3v2.

Frank
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:08 PM
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"KC" <kathy.claytor@sun.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 17, 3:55 am, " Craig" <craigandb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Found this in the print version of " The Sunday Telegraph" so I don't
>> have a
>> URL. Have quoted the article in it's entirety:
>>
>> "Drug Made From Pigs"
>> A controversial medication made out of pig cells is being tested in
>> diabetic
>> patients in Russia because scientists are not allowed to conduct trials
>> in
>> Australia.
>> A 26-year-old man last week became the first patient to be injected with
>> DiabeCell, a world -first product developed by Australian company Living
>> Cell Technologies (LCT), at a Moscow hospital.
>> "The benefits could be enormous and the ultimate goal will be to get
>> people
>> off insulin injections", LCT medical director Bob Elliot said.
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>> Craig, Type 2
>> NSW, Australia

>
> Sounds like a really great thing to watch.
>
> KC
>Hi KC,

Can't imagine how many happy people with type 1 there would be if they could
throw away the needles for good...certainly exciting times we live in to see
these quantam leaps in medicine.
Best Wishes,
Craig, Type 2
NSW, Australia


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Old 06-19-2007, 08:43 AM
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On Jun 18, 12:32 pm, " Craig" <craigandb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "KC" <kathy.clay...@sun.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1182147489.522333.288030@x35g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 17, 3:55 am, " Craig" <craigandb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> Found this in the print version of " The Sunday Telegraph" so I don't
> >> have a
> >> URL. Have quoted the article in it's entirety:

>
> >> "Drug Made From Pigs"
> >> A controversial medication made out of pig cells is being tested in
> >> diabetic
> >> patients in Russia because scientists are not allowed to conduct trials
> >> in
> >> Australia.
> >> A 26-year-old man last week became the first patient to be injected with
> >> DiabeCell, a world -first product developed by Australian company Living
> >> Cell Technologies (LCT), at a Moscow hospital.
> >> "The benefits could be enormous and the ultimate goal will be to get
> >> people
> >> off insulin injections", LCT medical director Bob Elliot said.

>
> >> Best Wishes,
> >> Craig, Type 2
> >> NSW, Australia

>
> > Sounds like a really great thing to watch.

>
> > KC
> >Hi KC,

>
> Can't imagine how many happy people with type 1 there would be if they could
> throw away the needles for good...certainly exciting times we live in to see
> these quantam leaps in medicine.
> Best Wishes,
> Craig, Type 2
> NSW, Australia- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


It seems to me that it would be good news for type II diabetics too.
After all some people with metabolic syndrome go on to have type II
diabetes and some do not. A probable difference is whether their
pancreas can keep up with the increased insulin needs or not. If a
type II diabetic got additional beta islet cells, perhaps they could
then not be diabetic, but only have metabolic syndrome at that point.

KC

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Old 06-19-2007, 08:43 AM
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"Jefferson" <fwroy@adelphia.netxeopheno> wrote in message
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> KC wrote:
>
>> On Jun 17, 3:55 am, " Craig" <craigandb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Found this in the print version of " The Sunday Telegraph" so I don't
>>>have a
>>>URL. Have quoted the article in it's entirety:
>>>
>>>"Drug Made From Pigs"
>>>A controversial medication made out of pig cells is being tested in
>>>diabetic
>>>patients in Russia because scientists are not allowed to conduct trials
>>>in
>>>Australia.
>>>A 26-year-old man last week became the first patient to be injected with
>>>DiabeCell, a world -first product developed by Australian company Living
>>>Cell Technologies (LCT), at a Moscow hospital.
>>>"The benefits could be enormous and the ultimate goal will be to get
>>>people
>>>off insulin injections", LCT medical director Bob Elliot said.
>>>

>
> A doctor from New Zealand moved to Mexico some time back because the
> experiments of implanting pig islets in humans could not get government
> approval. The concept is not new, but the encapsule design itself probably
> is. A Google search for terms Mexico+encapsuled+pig+islet+transplants
> resulted in 343 finds - http://tinyurl.com/2by3v2.
>
> Frank


Hi Frank,
I looked a little further at the company website and found:
"
Living Cell Technologies ("LCT") was established in 1987. The Company's
science is based on early pioneering research conducted by one of the world's
leading diabetes researchers, Professor Robert Elliott at the University of
Auckland. LCT's corporate office is in Adelaide, the research and technology
division in Auckland and product and regulatory divisions are located in the
United States.


Dr. Elliot it seems was originally from NZ -maybe this is the doc of which
you speak who went south of the border.
How frustrating it must be for the innovators of such treatments to be
frustrated and confounded by the bureaucracy of their respective
governments, so much so that they have to move out of the "civilized"
(Mexico and Russia)world in order to complete their research. The best info
on their site was that it may be ready for marketing by 2010-11.
Hope today finds you well.
Best Wishes,
Craig, Type 2
NSW, Australia


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