No appetite.

This is getting very frustrating. I know having gastroparesis can make me
feel full, but I am also battling the fact that nothing at all sounds good
to eat. I am having trouble eating a full meal or even a snack. Yesterday
I thought I was very hungry at lunch time. I ordered my favorite meal (okay
it wasn't my favorite but the best diabetic friendly favorite I could think
of) at a Mexican restaurant and couldn't finish it.

How's my BG you ask? Kinda low sometimes. So I eat candy. I seem to be
able to eat hard candy mints and jelly type candies even when I don't feel
hungry. More and more I find myself relying on those things rather than
real food just to keep my BG up.

Of course I don't always have lows. Sometimes I can eat a meal. Sometimes
my BG is fine. Sometimes it is too high.

Does anyone else have this problem? If so, what do you do? I find myself
making meals less and less. Husband will eat anything and I can make Angela
a gluten free sandwich or buy her a gluten free meal from the health food
store. Food just doesn't sound good at all.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> This is getting very frustrating. I know having gastroparesis can make me
> feel full, but I am also battling the fact that nothing at all sounds good
> to eat. I am having trouble eating a full meal or even a snack. Yesterday
> I thought I was very hungry at lunch time. I ordered my favorite meal (okay
> it wasn't my favorite but the best diabetic friendly favorite I could think
> of) at a Mexican restaurant and couldn't finish it.
>
> How's my BG you ask? Kinda low sometimes. So I eat candy. I seem to be
> able to eat hard candy mints and jelly type candies even when I don't feel
> hungry. More and more I find myself relying on those things rather than
> real food just to keep my BG up.
>
> Of course I don't always have lows. Sometimes I can eat a meal. Sometimes
> my BG is fine. Sometimes it is too high.
>
> Does anyone else have this problem? If so, what do you do? I find myself
> making meals less and less. Husband will eat anything and I can make Angela
> a gluten free sandwich or buy her a gluten free meal from the health food
> store. Food just doesn't sound good at all.

Would suggest you inform your doctor about the loss of appetite.

Something is terribly wrong.

You are possibly dying.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier):

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

interesting that you brought this up Julie. Today is one of those days.
I took my byetta, waited a half hour, and nothing in the house appealed
to me. I had a box of zone bars and I made that my meal. It has 22
carbs and I feel that will help me. I hope I get my appetite b ack b
efore lunch.

Maybe it is a blessing in one form of another

Loretta

convicted friend Loretta Eisenberg wrote:
>
> interesting that you brought this up Julie. Today is one of those days.
> I took my byetta, waited a half hour, and nothing in the house appealed
> to me. I had a box of zone bars and I made that my meal. It has 22
> carbs and I feel that will help me. I hope I get my appetite b ack b
> efore lunch.
>
> Maybe it is a blessing in one form of another

Quite the opposite, sadly.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 07:04:31 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>This is getting very frustrating. I know having gastroparesis can make me
>feel full, but I am also battling the fact that nothing at all sounds good
>to eat. I am having trouble eating a full meal or even a snack. Yesterday
>I thought I was very hungry at lunch time. I ordered my favorite meal (okay
>it wasn't my favorite but the best diabetic friendly favorite I could think
>of) at a Mexican restaurant and couldn't finish it.
>
>How's my BG you ask? Kinda low sometimes. So I eat candy. I seem to be
>able to eat hard candy mints and jelly type candies even when I don't feel
>hungry. More and more I find myself relying on those things rather than
>real food just to keep my BG up.
>
>Of course I don't always have lows. Sometimes I can eat a meal. Sometimes
>my BG is fine. Sometimes it is too high.
>
>Does anyone else have this problem? If so, what do you do? I find myself
>making meals less and less. Husband will eat anything and I can make Angela
>a gluten free sandwich or buy her a gluten free meal from the health food
>store. Food just doesn't sound good at all.
>

Unfortunately I don't have any answers for you at all, only some
compassion. I imagine that if I were faced with so many limitations -
allergies; gastroparesis as well as diabetes -- I would probably
develop an aversion to food as well. Unfortunately, at this point
you probably (whether conciously or not) see food as the enemy. After
all, it makes you vomit, or it sends your BG soaring and causes those
resulting pains and problems. Smokers can quit smoking. Addicts can
quit taking the drug or the drink. But, alas, food is not something
you can just go "cold turkey" from. That's one of the reasons
compulsive eaters have such trouble.

Have you discussed this with your doctor? Obviously, such an aversion
to food is not helping you.

I wish you all the best.

"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybklynlady@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18362-46D036F8-524@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net...
> interesting that you brought this up Julie. Today is one of those days.
> I took my byetta, waited a half hour, and nothing in the house appealed
> to me. I had a box of zone bars and I made that my meal. It has 22
> carbs and I feel that will help me. I hope I get my appetite b ack b
> efore lunch.
>
> Maybe it is a blessing in one form of another

Every time I get a new symptom, I think just that. Alas, it always turns
out it's some new medical problem.

<Laura@notmy.com> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately I don't have any answers for you at all, only some
> compassion. I imagine that if I were faced with so many limitations -
> allergies; gastroparesis as well as diabetes -- I would probably
> develop an aversion to food as well. Unfortunately, at this point
> you probably (whether conciously or not) see food as the enemy. After
> all, it makes you vomit, or it sends your BG soaring and causes those
> resulting pains and problems. Smokers can quit smoking. Addicts can
> quit taking the drug or the drink. But, alas, food is not something
> you can just go "cold turkey" from. That's one of the reasons
> compulsive eaters have such trouble.

I was a smoker for 27 years. Very hard to give that up. But I don't think
I was every a compulsive eater.

And you are right, the food aversions are getting worse. Salad used to be a
favorite food. But now I am afraid to eat it. I do eat a small amount,
sometimes, but I no longer enjoy it. Reason being I spent all night
throwing up after eating a large salad.
>
> Have you discussed this with your doctor? Obviously, such an aversion
> to food is not helping you.
>
Yep. Of course the Dr. doesn't see this as a problem. Just said I am going
to be one of those people who can't eat very much. I guess it wouldn't
bother me so much if I were skinny, but I'm not!

> I wish you all the best.

Thanks. Am eating some chia seeds. I seem to be able to get those down if
I can remember that I have them. I tend not to think about them.

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:45:27 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>I was a smoker for 27 years. Very hard to give that up. But I don't think
>I was every a compulsive eater.
>
>And you are right, the food aversions are getting worse. Salad used to be a
>favorite food. But now I am afraid to eat it. I do eat a small amount,
>sometimes, but I no longer enjoy it. Reason being I spent all night
>throwing up after eating a large salad


Yes, I know how hard it is to quit smoking.
It wasn't my intention to imply that you were ever a compulsive eater.
The point I was trying to make is that unlike other things that cause
us trouble, pain, illness, a person cannot just quit eating. You
know, you go to the doc and say doc it hurts when I do this and he
says well then don't do that. You can't say doc eating makes me sick
and have the doc reply well don't eat then. I can only imagine how
absolutely frustrating it must be for you to find something you think
you can safely eat only to have it come back and bite you later. It
only makes sense that you develop an aversion to something that causes
you trouble. It's not particularly comforting that your doctor cannot
relate to your trouble and recognize how it is negatively impacting on
your life.

I hope things get better soon.

On Aug 25, 12:04 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> This is getting very frustrating. I know having gastroparesis can make me
> feel full, but I am also battling the fact that nothing at all sounds good
> to eat. I am having trouble eating a full meal or even a snack. Yesterday
> I thought I was very hungry at lunch time. I ordered my favorite meal (okay
> it wasn't my favorite but the best diabetic friendly favorite I could think
> of) at a Mexican restaurant and couldn't finish it.

Have you had your blood chemistry checked lately? I would hate to
suggest it might be serious, but severe loss of appetite was a big
indicator when my kidneys failed. If you have recently had your
creatnine/bun checked and it was fine, then I apologize for suggesting
it might be something so serious. But if you haven't, I would get
them checked soon if your doctor concurs.

Sean

"Sean" <spk_gbv@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
> Have you had your blood chemistry checked lately? I would hate to
> suggest it might be serious, but severe loss of appetite was a big
> indicator when my kidneys failed. If you have recently had your
> creatnine/bun checked and it was fine, then I apologize for suggesting
> it might be something so serious. But if you haven't, I would get
> them checked soon if your doctor concurs.

I just had more labs done. Have had protein in my urine. Didn't know loss
of appetite was a sign of kidney failure. Best friend was on dialysis, but
I don't think it affected her appetite much.

Sean wrote:
> On Aug 25, 12:04 am, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > This is getting very frustrating. I know having gastroparesis can make me
> > feel full, but I am also battling the fact that nothing at all sounds good
> > to eat. I am having trouble eating a full meal or even a snack. Yesterday
> > I thought I was very hungry at lunch time. I ordered my favorite meal (okay
> > it wasn't my favorite but the best diabetic friendly favorite I could think
> > of) at a Mexican restaurant and couldn't finish it.
>
> Have you had your blood chemistry checked lately? I would hate to
> suggest it might be serious, but severe loss of appetite was a big
> indicator when my kidneys failed. If you have recently had your
> creatnine/bun checked and it was fine, then I apologize for suggesting
> it might be something so serious. But if you haven't, I would get
> them checked soon if your doctor concurs.
>
> Sean

Loss of appetite is a big red flag for physicians.

It is up there with chest pain and shortness of breath for
cardiologists.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

On Aug 25, 1:17 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> I just had more labs done. Have had protein in my urine. Didn't know loss
> of appetite was a sign of kidney failure. Best friend was on dialysis, but
> I don't think it affected her appetite much.

Loss of appetite happens when your kidneys are failing. Which is
prior to dialysis. Dialysis affects people differently, I had
moderate problems with it while others I knew had no problems at all.
Now, post-transplant one of the major (and many) things I'm supposed
to watch out for is LoA.
Since you've had your blood labs done then I am glad it is not that.
Proteinuria is something to keep an eye on, but I lived with it for
most of my life. It's the creatnine and BUN you have to keep a close
watch on.

Sean

Julie Bove wrote:
> "Sean" <spk_gbv@msn.com> wrote :
> >
> > Have you had your blood chemistry checked lately? I would hate to
> > suggest it might be serious, but severe loss of appetite was a big
> > indicator when my kidneys failed. If you have recently had your
> > creatnine/bun checked and it was fine, then I apologize for suggesting
> > it might be something so serious. But if you haven't, I would get
> > them checked soon if your doctor concurs.
>
> I just had more labs done. Have had protein in my urine. Didn't know loss
> of appetite was a sign of kidney failure.

Loss of appetite is also a symptom of:

(1) Cancer
(2) AIDS
(3) Tuberculosis
(4) Sepsis
(5) Metabolic acidosis
(6) Starvation ketosis
(7) Depression

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Sean" <spk_gbv@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1188072597.964881.83410@i38g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>
>> Have you had your blood chemistry checked lately? I would hate to
>> suggest it might be serious, but severe loss of appetite was a big
>> indicator when my kidneys failed. If you have recently had your
>> creatnine/bun checked and it was fine, then I apologize for suggesting
>> it might be something so serious. But if you haven't, I would get
>> them checked soon if your doctor concurs.
>
> I just had more labs done. Have had protein in my urine. Didn't know
> loss of appetite was a sign of kidney failure. Best friend was on
> dialysis, but I don't think it affected her appetite much.
>

Julie,

I don't know too much about this, but when I had acute kidney failure I had
a very low appetite. It was the only time in my life that people were
urging me to eat more. Everything except fruit and milk seemed really yucky
to me. But, I do know someone IRL who has gastroparesis, and she says it
gives her a terrible appetite, so don't worry too much about it being the
kidneys if you know that you have gastroparesis. You will see when you get
your recent labs back.

KC

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc15@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Sean" <spk_gbv@msn.com> wrote :
>> >
>> > Have you had your blood chemistry checked lately? I would hate to
>> > suggest it might be serious, but severe loss of appetite was a big
>> > indicator when my kidneys failed. If you have recently had your
>> > creatnine/bun checked and it was fine, then I apologize for suggesting
>> > it might be something so serious. But if you haven't, I would get
>> > them checked soon if your doctor concurs.
>>
>> I just had more labs done. Have had protein in my urine. Didn't know
>> loss
>> of appetite was a sign of kidney failure.
>
> Loss of appetite is also a symptom of:
>
> (1) Cancer
> (2) AIDS
> (3) Tuberculosis
> (4) Sepsis
> (5) Metabolic acidosis
> (6) Starvation ketosis
> (7) Depression
>
Well that does explain my lack of appetite I just discussed in this thread
and another when I had DKA and Septicemia. Both the acidosis and sepsis
would have caused the lack of appetite. Plus the acute kidney failure. So,
since acidosis causes people to not be hungry, the insulin deficiency
causing extreme hunger probably wouldn't cause the extreme hunger when it
got to the point of DKA. Too sick to be hungry by that point. It'll be
interesting to see what the type I diabetics say about their hunger during
other points of insulin deficiency that do not reach the level of DKA.

KC

convicted friend Kathy Claytor (KC) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "Sean" <spk_gbv@msn.com> wrote :
> >> >
> >> > Have you had your blood chemistry checked lately? I would hate to
> >> > suggest it might be serious, but severe loss of appetite was a big
> >> > indicator when my kidneys failed. If you have recently had your
> >> > creatnine/bun checked and it was fine, then I apologize for suggesting
> >> > it might be something so serious. But if you haven't, I would get
> >> > them checked soon if your doctor concurs.
> >>
> >> I just had more labs done. Have had protein in my urine. Didn't know
> >> loss
> >> of appetite was a sign of kidney failure.
> >
> > Loss of appetite is also a symptom of:
> >
> > (1) Cancer
> > (2) AIDS
> > (3) Tuberculosis
> > (4) Sepsis
> > (5) Metabolic acidosis
> > (6) Starvation ketosis
> > (7) Depression
> >
> Well that does explain my lack of appetite I just discussed in this thread
> and another when I had DKA and Septicemia. Both the acidosis and sepsis
> would have caused the lack of appetite. Plus the acute kidney failure. So,
> since acidosis causes people to not be hungry, the insulin deficiency
> causing extreme hunger probably wouldn't cause the extreme hunger when it
> got to the point of DKA. Too sick to be hungry by that point. It'll be
> interesting to see what the type I diabetics say about their hunger during
> other points of insulin deficiency that do not reach the level of DKA.

For the type 1 diabetic, insulin deficiency invariably results in DKA.

Truly, hunger is wonderful.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist