No Help for Thanksgiving for me :(

I really wanted to take that med that helps control
blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
said nope she does not have anything for that.
perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.

I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats wrong
with taking a little something for thanksgiving.


Tom

--
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Gantlet wrote:
> I really wanted to take that med that helps control
> blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
> and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
> said nope she does not have anything for that.
> perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
>
> I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats
wrong
> with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
>
>
> Tom

Starlix

x-no-archive: yes

Ozgirl wrote:
> Gantlet wrote:
>
>>I really wanted to take that med that helps control
>>blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
>>and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
>>said nope she does not have anything for that.
>>perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
>>
>>I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats
>
> wrong
>
>>with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
>>
>>
>>Tom
>
>
> Starlix
>

Or Precose (acarbose). Neither is nearly as effective as moderation at
dinner and a long walk afterward, though.


Susan

Hiya:
Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Ozgirl wrote:
> > Gantlet wrote:
> >
> >>I really wanted to take that med that helps control
> >>blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
> >>and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
> >>said nope she does not have anything for that.
> >>perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
> >>
> >>I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats
> >
> > wrong
> >
> >>with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
> >>
> >>
> >>Tom
> >
> >
> > Starlix
> >
>
> Or Precose (acarbose). Neither is nearly as effective as moderation at
> dinner and a long walk afterward, though.
>
>
> Susan

I'm with Susan on this one -- it may be time for you to make a long
walk after holiday dinners part of your family's traditions. I've tried
it -- the dog thinks it's great, the rest of the family are amivalent.
Alternatively, doing a Thanksgiving sized load of dishwashing is
exercise, too.

rleone@hotmail.com

rleone@hotmail.com wrote:
: Hiya:
: Susan wrote:
: > x-no-archive: yes
: >
: > Ozgirl wrote:
: > > Gantlet wrote:
: > >
: > >>I really wanted to take that med that helps control
: > >>blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
: > >>and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
: > >>said nope she does not have anything for that.
: > >>perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
: > >>
: > >>I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats
: > >
: > > wrong
: > >
: > >>with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
: > >>
: > >>
: > >>Tom
: > >
: > >
: > > Starlix
: > >
: >
: > Or Precose (acarbose). Neither is nearly as effective as moderation at
: > dinner and a long walk afterward, though.
: >
: >
: > Susan

: I'm with Susan on this one -- it may be time for you to make a long
: walk after holiday dinners part of your family's traditions. I've tried
: it -- the dog thinks it's great, the rest of the family are amivalent.
: Alternatively, doing a Thanksgiving sized load of dishwashing is
: exercise, too.

: rleone@hotmail.com

Also, hve a glass or two of dry red wine with the dinner. It keeps the
liver busy so it doesn't send u tt glucagon.

Wendy

"Gantlet" <NotSaying@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:VOM6h.4873$T_.1589@trndny06...
>
> I really wanted to take that med that helps control
> blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
> and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
> said nope she does not have anything for that.
> perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
>
> I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats wrong
> with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
>

I use Prandin. Not just for special occasions, either.

I exercise on a regular basis, but I don't want to low-carb & I don't want
to add post-meal walks to what I already do. My doctor quite understood
this -- as a quality of life issue. She didn't say -- since I was capable of
eating in a pattern (timing) & way that "worked", that I should just
suckitup&deal, even if I wasn't happy doing it that way. Nor did she think I
was some sort of wimpo lacking "character" that I wanted to be able to eat
(a) carbs and (b) a whole meal at once!!! what a concept!!!

I think your doctor is either mis-informed, behind the times, or just being
hard on you -- possibly as a moral judgment on you for "getting diabetes"?
bj

On 15 Nov 2006 16:50:42 -0800, rleone@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>I'm with Susan on this one -- it may be time for you to make a long
>walk after holiday dinners part of your family's traditions. I've tried
>it -- the dog thinks it's great, the rest of the family are amivalent.
>Alternatively, doing a Thanksgiving sized load of dishwashing is
>exercise, too.
>
>rleone@hotmail.com

Eat the turkey and leave the gravy.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Rome and Lazio

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:11:47 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker"
<wbaker@panix.com> wrote:

>rleone@hotmail.com wrote:
>: Hiya:
>: Susan wrote:
>: > x-no-archive: yes
>: >
>: > Ozgirl wrote:
>: > > Gantlet wrote:
>: > >
>: > >>I really wanted to take that med that helps control
>: > >>blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
>: > >>and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
>: > >>said nope she does not have anything for that.
>: > >>perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
>: > >>
>: > >>I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats
>: > >
>: > > wrong
>: > >
>: > >>with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
>: > >>
>: > >>
>: > >>Tom
>: > >
>: > >
>: > > Starlix
>: > >
>: >
>: > Or Precose (acarbose). Neither is nearly as effective as moderation at
>: > dinner and a long walk afterward, though.
>: >
>: >
>: > Susan
>
>: I'm with Susan on this one -- it may be time for you to make a long
>: walk after holiday dinners part of your family's traditions. I've tried
>: it -- the dog thinks it's great, the rest of the family are amivalent.
>: Alternatively, doing a Thanksgiving sized load of dishwashing is
>: exercise, too.
>
>: rleone@hotmail.com
>
>Also, hve a glass or two of dry red wine with the dinner. It keeps the
>liver busy so it doesn't send u tt glucagon.
>
>Wendy

Much better idea!

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Rome and Lazio

Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Ozgirl wrote:
>> Gantlet wrote:
>>
>>>I really wanted to take that med that helps control
>>>blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor
today
>>>and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
>>>said nope she does not have anything for that.
>>>perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
>>>
>>>I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats
>>
>> wrong
>>
>>>with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
>>>
>>>
>>>Tom
>>
>>
>> Starlix
>>
>
> Or Precose (acarbose). Neither is nearly as effective as
moderation
> at dinner and a long walk afterward, though.


Xmas Day is my day, no other day really makes me want
everything I see. I will probably just pig out for the day
as usual and sleep off the carb stupour.

Alan S wrote:
> On 15 Nov 2006 16:50:42 -0800, rleone@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>I'm with Susan on this one -- it may be time for you to
make a long
>>walk after holiday dinners part of your family's
traditions. I've
>>tried it -- the dog thinks it's great, the rest of the
family are
>>amivalent. Alternatively, doing a Thanksgiving sized load
of
>>dishwashing is exercise, too.
>>
>>rleone@hotmail.com
>
> Eat the turkey and leave the gravy.

Nooooooooo!

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
news:s7N6h.66716$rP1.15608@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

> Starlix

However... It doesn't work for everybody and it does have limits. I do not
know whether or not it works with sweets. Prandin does not. Prandin works
only on starchy carbs. For me, the Starlix seemed to do very little to
nothing at all. The only good thing about it was that it was short acting.
I guess... And when I was taking it I was cautioned not to exceed the
amount of carbs I had already determined I could safely eat. Which was not
a whole heck of a lot.

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"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
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> Xmas Day is my day, no other day really makes me want
> everything I see. I will probably just pig out for the day
> as usual and sleep off the carb stupour.

We never had a really big meal on Xmas, unless perhaps we had company and
that was rarely. When we were kids we ate candy from the stockings till we
got sick. But we have a rather untraditional family so we might have
Mexican food one year, Italian the next and really not much else different
except perhaps for a raw veggie tray, perhaps a gelatin salad and some kind
of dessert. We didn't normally have dessert.

--
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http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:00:39 GMT, "Julie Bove"
<juliebove@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>
>
>"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
>news:8DU6h.66980$rP1.48830@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> Xmas Day is my day, no other day really makes me want
>> everything I see. I will probably just pig out for the day
>> as usual and sleep off the carb stupour.
>
>We never had a really big meal on Xmas, unless perhaps we had company and
>that was rarely. When we were kids we ate candy from the stockings till we
>got sick. But we have a rather untraditional family so we might have
>Mexican food one year, Italian the next and really not much else different
>except perhaps for a raw veggie tray, perhaps a gelatin salad and some kind
>of dessert. We didn't normally have dessert.

Jan's history of Christmas is probably similar to mine.

We don't have Thanksgiving in Oz, and Christmas is the big
Family holiday of the year - regardless of your religious
persuasion.

Here it's usually stinking hot - but that doesn't stop the
traditional steamed Christmas pudding, roast chicken (we're
not big on turkeys here), or roast beef etc. Plus salads of
all sorts, finger food - whatever. Some more sensible people
have a BBQ and a feast by the pool, but generally it is the
traditional over-eat until you burst and then eat some more
day. And drink too much to wash it down.

It's the time when our families get together in the way that
I understand USA people do at thanksgiving. When I was a kid
in the '50s, my Grandparents and many of my uncles and aunts
lived in Narrabri in north-west NSW - and all of the family
from all over the Eastern States congregated there for
Christmas. In those pre-fahrenheit days it was 108F in the
shade - but 20 or 30 of us still had the traditional
English-style feast that the women prepared for a week in
advance, based on roast mutton from sheep off Grand-dads
property that he'd killed himself. Then we'd eat boiled
mutton the rest of the week:-)

These days my mob meet down in Melbourne, which is why I
disappear on walkabout for December and January. During
which I also hope to drop in on Jan, Henry and a few
others:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Rome and Lazio

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
news:s7N6h.66716$rP1.15608@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Gantlet wrote:
>> I really wanted to take that med that helps control
>> blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
>> and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
>> said nope she does not have anything for that.
>> perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
>>
>> I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats
> wrong
>> with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
>>
>>
>> Tom
>
> Starlix

http://www.starlix.com/hcp/mechanisms_action.jsp

Gys

"Gantlet" <NotSaying@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:VOM6h.4873$T_.1589@trndny06...
>
> I really wanted to take that med that helps control
> blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
> and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
> said nope she does not have anything for that.
> perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
>
> I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats wrong
> with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
>
>
> Tom
>
> --
> Pictures of my motorcycle
> http://www.adventurseofvtx1300c.com....com/photo.html


Hi Tom
If , for you , exercise and moderation does not work that well than maybe
you should ask for Byetta or Januvia.Maybe this is a better choice , for
your life style , and more effective in your case not only at thanks giving
I mean.I seem to remember foto's of a motorcycle and a meal _I_ could only
eat when taking a _very long_ walk afterwards

They don't load on your beta cells
They work fast

Gys

You mean Prandin Tom...

That's what I had mentioned to you a month or so ago.

I'm sorry your doc said she didn't have anything for that, but perhaps
it's because your wife was asking for you. Why not give a call, or drop
her an email and mention the meds name. Then even if she's not heard of
it, she can do a little research.

There's nothing wrong with using Prandin on occasion. As long as it's a
tool, it can help with our long term control of this disease.

Jennifer



Gantlet wrote:

> I really wanted to take that med that helps control
> blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
> and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
> said nope she does not have anything for that.
> perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
>
> I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats wrong
> with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
>
>
> Tom
>

There ya go!!!

--
Cheri

Ozgirl wrote in message

<8DU6h.66980$rP1.48830@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
>Xmas Day is my day, no other day really makes me want
>everything I see. I will probably just pig out for the day
>as usual and sleep off the carb stupour.

Thank you Jennifer. :-)

--
Cheri

Jennifer wrote in message ...

>You mean Prandin Tom...
>
>That's what I had mentioned to you a month or so ago.
>
>I'm sorry your doc said she didn't have anything for that, but perhaps
>it's because your wife was asking for you. Why not give a call, or
drop
>her an email and mention the meds name. Then even if she's not heard
of
>it, she can do a little research.
>
>There's nothing wrong with using Prandin on occasion. As long as it's
a
>tool, it can help with our long term control of this disease.
>
>Jennifer

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:dBW6h.3362$%U.718@trndny07...
>> Starlix
>
> However... It doesn't work for everybody and it does have limits. I do
> not know whether or not it works with sweets. Prandin does not. Prandin
> works only on starchy carbs.
>

Prandin works for me for all types of carbs.
bj

Alan S <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
: On 15 Nov 2006 16:50:42 -0800, rleone@hotmail.com wrote:

: >
: >I'm with Susan on this one -- it may be time for you to make a long
: >walk after holiday dinners part of your family's traditions. I've tried
: >it -- the dog thinks it's great, the rest of the family are amivalent.
: >Alternatively, doing a Thanksgiving sized load of dishwashing is
: >exercise, too.
: >
: >rleone@hotmail.com

: Eat the turkey and leave the gravy.

: Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
: d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
: Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
: --
: http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
: http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
: latest: Rome and Lazio

You should taste my think, well flavored, fat skimmed gravy. It is to die
for:-)

Wendy

"Gantlet" <NotSaying@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:VOM6h.4873$T_.1589@trndny06...
>
> I really wanted to take that med that helps control
> blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
> and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
> said nope she does not have anything for that.
> perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
>
> I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats wrong
> with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
>
>
> Tom
>
> --
> Pictures of my motorcycle
> http://www.adventurseofvtx1300c.com....com/photo.html

And then there is this one.....

http://www.aicr.org/site/News2?abbr=...cxt4m11.app14b

November 2006 e.Newsletter from the American Institute for Cancer Research :
Let the Science Set Your Thanksgiving Table
Try these five unique and healthy recipes
November 2006
Healthy Choices
An Exceptional Menu for the Thanksgiving Menu
On most days you try to include more vegetables, fruit, and whole grains in
your meal and cut back on fatty meats. (A good rule of thumb is 2/3 or more
vegetables, fruits, whole grains and beans and 1/3 or less animal protein on
your plate.) But a holiday is an exception. We tend to let ourselves go in
regard to the fats, sweets, and portions. That's okay, as long as we go back
to our usual eating pattern on the morning after.

An Exception to the Exception
But Thanksgiving is one holiday on which you can have your healthy foods and
feast as well. It's a meal that should be marked by abundance, and what is
most abundant in November is the fall harvest of roots, gourds and berries
that have just been gathered for the winter.

So this year, just like the Pilgrims at the first Thanksgiving, surround
that turkey with a choice of four or five seasonal vegetables. And since it's
a holiday, dress them up a little so they call attention to themselves.

As a contrast to the bright orange and red vegetables of the season, start
with some green beans. Steam or microwave them in a little water. Then,
because it's a holiday, toss them with a small amount of olive oil and
chopped almonds.

Then Add the Orange Veggies

Besides the string beans and almonds, how about a bowl of seasonal butternut
squash? Its orange flesh is full of carotenoids, riddled with vitamin C and
oh so sweet. Peel it, cut it in half, remove the seeds and chop it into
small pieces. Steam, bake or microwave them until they're soft, drain, and
mash with a small amount of butter or margarine and a lot of cloves and
cinnamon.

If you want a more exotic squash dish, try our recipe for Acorn Squash
Stuffed with Apricots and Cornbread.

The other orange dish is, of course, sweet potato. Again the flesh is sweet
and full of health benefits -carotenoids, vitamin C and lots of fiber. You
can bake that sweet potato for about an hour at 375 or 400°. Or to
celebrate the holiday, you can try our elegant recipe for Cider-Glazed Sweet
Potatoes with Cranberries.

And Throw in Something Red for Good Health

Speaking of cranberries, they, too, belong on the Thanksgiving plate. Every
day we learn more about the health benefits of these berries.

Anthocyanin is the phytochemical that makes those berries red. In fact,
they are loaded with a wide variety of phenols, which are believed to fight
cancer. You can add chopped fresh cranberries to salads.

You can always serve cranberry sauce. (Buy the kind with whole berries. Just
keep in mind that each 1/2 cup has about 1/4 cup extra sugar.) Or try our
recipe for Cranberry Pineapple Relish.

Whole Grains Are Usually Brown

Finally, serve that turkey with a whole grain stuffing. (The Pilgrims didn't
have a lot of refined grains lying around, and consequently their whole
grain dressings and breads were full of lignans and other antioxidants, plus
fiber.) Mix those whole grains with fruit and nuts to add crunch, flavor
and more health benefits to your stuffing.

Try our Whole-Grain Stuffing with Cranberries and Walnuts. If you've
overplayed the cranberries already, take a look at our recipe for Whole
Wheat Fruit and Nut Stuffing.

If none of these holiday recipes turn you on, go to our Recipe Corner and
enter "squash," "sweet potatoes," "pumpkin," "carrots," or "parsnips" into
the search engine. Find seasonal recipes that appeal to you. A
Thanksgiving plate with turkey and whole grain stuffing surrounded by small
servings of three or four seasonal vegetables will be colorful, delicious
and full of health benefits. It will be in itself a cause for giving
thanks.

hth
Gys

In article <BV07h.5585$Jd3.2417@trnddc07>,
"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote:

> "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:dBW6h.3362$%U.718@trndny07...
> >> Starlix
> >
> > However... It doesn't work for everybody and it does have limits. I do
> > not know whether or not it works with sweets. Prandin does not. Prandin
> > works only on starchy carbs.
> >
>
> Prandin works for me for all types of carbs.

Being the host, preparing the meal, serving, cleaning up... Those are
the meds that let me have a nice serving of mashed potatoes along with
my turkey, broccoli, squash, turnip, cranberry, and pumpkin pie. :-)

Priscilla

I didn't know that, but since I'm always the host, that works for me.
:-)

--
Cheri

Priscilla H. Ballou wrote in message ...

>Being the host, preparing the meal, serving, cleaning up... Those are
>the meds that let me have a nice serving of mashed potatoes along with
>my turkey, broccoli, squash, turnip, cranberry, and pumpkin pie. :-)
>
>Priscilla

x-no-archive: yes

Priscilla H. Ballou wrote:

> Being the host, preparing the meal, serving, cleaning up... Those are
> the meds that let me have a nice serving of mashed potatoes along with
> my turkey, broccoli, squash, turnip, cranberry, and pumpkin pie. :-)

I'm so bummed not to be making Thanksgiving dinner this year, and Tom is
really bummed to be relieved of his turkey frying duties. :-) I just
can't be on my foot yet. :-(

OTOH, I'll be making the apples and yams (with loads of butter and brown
sugar) and twice baked potatoes (loaded with butter and sour cream), but
I won't be having any of them. I'm the only dark meat turkey lover in
the crowd (now that my FIL is, sadly, no longer with us), so I'll have
plenty of that and some other veggies. I also make erythritol sweetened
cranberry sauce with orange extract and ginger because my in laws eat
that godawful canned stuff you slice.

Susan

Cheri <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
: I didn't know that, but since I'm always the host, that works for me.
: :-)

: --
: Cheri

: Priscilla H. Ballou wrote in message ...

: >Being the host, preparing the meal, serving, cleaning up... Those are
: >the meds that let me have a nice serving of mashed potatoes along with
: >my turkey, broccoli, squash, turnip, cranberry, and pumpkin pie. :-)
: >
: >Priscilla
I host too so I control wht is served so artificilly sweetened cranberry
and pies, dressing with more vegetables and less bread, thin gravy and no
big carb problem! Of course, tht does not speak to what happens wih the
scale:-)

Wendy

I host as well and since DM is MY problem, I don't feel it's
right to stop the others in my family from having a wonderful
fattening day. This includes me.

--
Reisa, T1, Animas IR1250 Pumper
DX-5/00 ASD-7/00
A1C: 6.2% (8/24/06)
Daily CHO: 150-200gm
TDD: 34-38u
"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
news:ejioal$h8$1@reader2.panix.com...
: Cheri <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
:: I didn't know that, but since I'm always the host, that works for me.
:: :-)
:
:: --
:: Cheri
:
:: Priscilla H. Ballou wrote in message ...
:
:: >Being the host, preparing the meal, serving, cleaning up... Those are
:: >the meds that let me have a nice serving of mashed potatoes along with
:: >my turkey, broccoli, squash, turnip, cranberry, and pumpkin pie. :-)
:: >
:: >Priscilla
: I host too so I control wht is served so artificilly sweetened cranberry
: and pies, dressing with more vegetables and less bread, thin gravy and no
: big carb problem! Of course, tht does not speak to what happens wih the
: scale:-)
:
: Wendy
:

tom send me an email we'll see what we can do to take
care of your thanksgiving issue bud

--
Reisa, T1, Animas IR1250 Pumper
DX-5/00 ASD-7/00
A1C: 6.2% (8/24/06)
Daily CHO: 150-200gm
TDD: 34-38u
"Gantlet" <NotSaying@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:VOM6h.4873$T_.1589@trndny06...
:
: I really wanted to take that med that helps control
: blood sugars for a meal. my wife went to our doctor today
: and asked if she could give me something. the doctor
: said nope she does not have anything for that.
: perhaps she does not know or just being hard on me.
:
: I did what I had to do to get off medications. whats wrong
: with taking a little something for thanksgiving.
:
:
: Tom
:
: --
: Pictures of my motorcycle
: http://www.adventurseofvtx1300c.com....com/photo.html
:
:

In article <4s41dpFu1p1qU1@mid.individual.net>,
Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Priscilla H. Ballou wrote:
>
> > Being the host, preparing the meal, serving, cleaning up... Those are
> > the meds that let me have a nice serving of mashed potatoes along with
> > my turkey, broccoli, squash, turnip, cranberry, and pumpkin pie. :-)
>
> I'm so bummed not to be making Thanksgiving dinner this year, and Tom is
> really bummed to be relieved of his turkey frying duties. :-) I just
> can't be on my foot yet. :-(
>
> OTOH, I'll be making the apples and yams (with loads of butter and brown
> sugar)

OMG, that sounds good! Hmmm. Yams aren't a tradition for us, but....

> and twice baked potatoes (loaded with butter and sour cream), but
> I won't be having any of them. I'm the only dark meat turkey lover in
> the crowd (now that my FIL is, sadly, no longer with us),

Sorry for his loss, but remembering what you'd said about him, I suspect
he'd be cheering you on in your enjoying that lovely thigh meat. ;-)

> so I'll have
> plenty of that and some other veggies. I also make erythritol sweetened
> cranberry sauce with orange extract and ginger because my in laws eat
> that godawful canned stuff you slice.

I was thinking of making some for me sweetened with erythritol, and I
may yet, but cranberries seem so darned expensive this year, and I
always cook up a double recipe of whole berry sauce so I can send plenty
home with my niece and her parents. I wonder if there's been some
blight or something or maybe they're filling in the cranberry bogs for
real estate development. I should know -- I live in MA, but I haven't
been clued in.

Priscilla

In article <ejioal$h8$1@reader2.panix.com>,
"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote:

> Cheri <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> : I didn't know that, but since I'm always the host, that works for me.
> : :-)
>
> : --
> : Cheri
>
> : Priscilla H. Ballou wrote in message ...
>
> : >Being the host, preparing the meal, serving, cleaning up... Those are
> : >the meds that let me have a nice serving of mashed potatoes along with
> : >my turkey, broccoli, squash, turnip, cranberry, and pumpkin pie. :-)
> : >
> : >Priscilla
> I host too so I control wht is served so artificilly sweetened cranberry
> and pies, dressing with more vegetables and less bread, thin gravy and no
> big carb problem! Of course, tht does not speak to what happens wih the
> scale:-)

I won't put artificial sweeteners in foods I serve others, because I
know how awful the most popular ones taste to me, and I don't know how
my relatives will be with them. I do put a LOT more vegies in the
stuffing, and I use Arnold low-carb bread in it (plus a little whole
grain), but that's where I draw the line. The rest depends on portion
control. And when I cook, few can bear to control their portions. ;-)

Priscilla

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Priscilla Ballou wrote:

>
> OMG, that sounds good! Hmmm. Yams aren't a tradition for us, but....

Oh, it's delish. It looks pretty, too, with the slices overlapping in
concentric circles. in a shallow round dish.
>
>>and twice baked potatoes (loaded with butter and sour cream), but
>>I won't be having any of them. I'm the only dark meat turkey lover in
>>the crowd (now that my FIL is, sadly, no longer with us),
>
>
> Sorry for his loss, but remembering what you'd said about him, I suspect
> he'd be cheering you on in your enjoying that lovely thigh meat. ;-)

Man, did he love to eat! I figured in his weakened state, I coulda
muscled him outta my way this year. ;-)

> I was thinking of making some for me sweetened with erythritol, and I
> may yet, but cranberries seem so darned expensive this year, and I
> always cook up a double recipe of whole berry sauce so I can send plenty
> home with my niece and her parents. I wonder if there's been some
> blight or something or maybe they're filling in the cranberry bogs for
> real estate development. I should know -- I live in MA, but I haven't
> been clued in.

I just saw them on sale at Stop n Shop for 1.69 a bag. I noticed the
organic ones were a fortune this year, about $5 a lb.

Susan

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Priscilla Ballou wrote:

> I won't put artificial sweeteners in foods I serve others, because I
> know how awful the most popular ones taste to me, and I don't know how
> my relatives will be with them.

I feel the same way. I'll use SA's because there's no taste compromise,
but not AS.

Susan

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:17:24 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker"
<wbaker@panix.com> wrote:

>You should taste my think, well flavored, fat skimmed gravy. It is to die
>for:-)
>
>Wendy

I hope not - to die - that is:-)

I've been experimenting with limited success with guar gum
as a gravy thickener. Unfortunatley I can get the
consistency right but there's a flavour lacking. I had never
realised how much the flour adds to a gravy's flavour.

I make a de-fatted thinner version using flour and a little
guar at the moment; it's pretty good but I'll keep
experimenting.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Rome and Lazio

In article <4s4fj9Ftvf6hU2@mid.individual.net>,
Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Priscilla Ballou wrote:
>
> > I won't put artificial sweeteners in foods I serve others, because I
> > know how awful the most popular ones taste to me, and I don't know how
> > my relatives will be with them.
>
> I feel the same way. I'll use SA's because there's no taste compromise,
> but not AS.

Yup, and while I'll use SAs on myself sometimes, I won't use them in
foods for others because I don't know how their digestive systems will
react.

Priscilla

In article <4s4fhdFtvf6hU1@mid.individual.net>,
Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Priscilla Ballou wrote:
> > OMG, that sounds good! Hmmm. Yams aren't a tradition for us, but....
> Oh, it's delish. It looks pretty, too, with the slices overlapping in
> concentric circles. in a shallow round dish.

Hmmm... Just slices overlapping in a buttered dish, dotted with butter
and sprinkled with brown sugar, s&p to taste? Oven temp? How long?
I've got some Northern Spies, see, and they're not going into pies...

Hey, I'm adding in my fave creamed onions this year, plus I'm moving the
rutabaga up from day-after-Thanksgiving menu since Mother's going home
early, so why not yams too? I'm the cook. I can do what I want! Ah,
the power! The power!

> >>and twice baked potatoes (loaded with butter and sour cream), but
> >>I won't be having any of them. I'm the only dark meat turkey lover in
> >>the crowd (now that my FIL is, sadly, no longer with us),
> >
> > Sorry for his loss, but remembering what you'd said about him, I suspect
> > he'd be cheering you on in your enjoying that lovely thigh meat. ;-)
>
> Man, did he love to eat! I figured in his weakened state, I coulda
> muscled him outta my way this year. ;-)
>
> > I was thinking of making some for me sweetened with erythritol, and I
> > may yet, but cranberries seem so darned expensive this year, and I
> > always cook up a double recipe of whole berry sauce so I can send plenty
> > home with my niece and her parents. I wonder if there's been some
> > blight or something or maybe they're filling in the cranberry bogs for
> > real estate development. I should know -- I live in MA, but I haven't
> > been clued in.
>
> I just saw them on sale at Stop n Shop for 1.69 a bag. I noticed the
> organic ones were a fortune this year, about $5 a lb.

Hmmm... you're just full of good ideas, aren't you?

Priscilla

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Priscilla Ballou wrote:

> Yup, and while I'll use SAs on myself sometimes, I won't use them in
> foods for others because I don't know how their digestive systems will
> react.

So far, no one in our family has had any effect. The only thing I use
them in for Thanksgiving is the cranberry sauce I make to avoid the
slicing type. :-) Oh, and xylitol in a pumpkin pie. I don't know
anyone personally who's had a gut reaction to xylitol.

Susan