One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide

One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html

For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
Health Organization.

The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
epidemic, says WHO.

A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
to eat.

Some 2,000 health experts gather in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday for
a four-day conference on treatment and prevention of obesity, organized
by the North American Society for the Study of Obesity (NAASO).

While accounting for less than five percent of the population in China,
Japan and some African nations, the proportion of obesity -- at the
other extreme -- exceeds 75 percent in some urban zones of Samoa, and 45
percent among certain demographic groups in the United States, notably
among African Americans.

And even within China, more than 20 percent of the people in certain
cities are classified as seriously overweight.

The international standard for determining obesity is the body-mass
index (BMI), defined as one's weight in kilograms divided by the square
of one's height in meters.

A person who is 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) tall and weights 90 kilos
(198 pounds) will be considered as overweight because his BMI -- 27.8 --
is above 25kg/m2, and would be classified as obese if weighing 100 kilos
(220 pounds), yielding a BMI -- 30.8 -- above 30kg/m2.

In the United States, 30 percent of adults are clinically obese, some 60
million people. In Europe, Britain tops the list with 23 percent, nearly
twice the rate in Germany, where 12 percent tip the scales into obesity,
according to the OECD. Italy -- the land of pasta -- only counts eight
percent of its population as severely overweight.

But even in European countries where obesity is less prevalent, the
percentage has increased steadily over time. In France, with a
population of just over 60 million, 5.9 million people are obese today,
whereas the figure for 10 years ago was only 3.6.

Overall, there are some 200 million adults in the EU -- fully 45 percent
of the population -- who are measurably overweight.

Rates of excess weight and obesity have climbed to alarming levels among
children too, experts say.

There are about 14 million overweight pre-teen
youngsters in the European Union -- at least 3 million of them obese --
with an additional 500,000 crossing the line every year, according to
recent study by the International Task Force on Obesity.

In Portugal, more than 30 percent of 9-to-16 year olds are obese, three
times more than a decade ago, prompting health minister Antonio Correia
de Campos to warn recently that "50 percent of the Portuguese population
will be obese in 2050 if nothing is done."

In the United States, the proportion of youth between the age of six and
19 classified as overweight tripled between 1980 and 2002, according to
a federal study published earlier this year by the Journal of the
American Medical Association.

Developing countries are not immune to the problem, experts note. In
Thailand, for example, the percentage of five-to-twelve year olds who
are obese has climbed from 12.2 to 15.6 in only two years, according to
WHO.

In general, obesity rates start to climb towards epidemic levels in
developing nations as the sedentary lifestyles and rich diets -- laden
with sugar, fats and salt -- common in many Western countries take hold,
noted experts and the 10th International Congress on Obesity, held in
Sydney in September.

The exploding rates of obesity contribute heavily to increased rates of
many chronic diseases such as type-2 diabetes, hyper-tension,
arteriosclerosis, cerebral hemorrhaging, and certain kinds of cancer.

Type-2 diabetes was once a disease that only affected adults, most often
advanced in age, but today it has become common even among obese
pre-adolescent children, WHO said.
Ninety percent of those afflicted with type-2 diabetes are either
overweight or obese.

Witchy Way wrote:
> One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
> Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html
>
> For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
> overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
> Health Organization.
>
> The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
> economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
> prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
> epidemic, says WHO.
>
> A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
> considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
> to eat.
>
> Some 2,000 health experts gather in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday for
> a four-day conference on treatment and prevention of obesity, organized
> by the North American Society for the Study of Obesity (NAASO).
>
> While accounting for less than five percent of the population in China,
> Japan and some African nations, the proportion of obesity -- at the
> other extreme -- exceeds 75 percent in some urban zones of Samoa, and 45
> percent among certain demographic groups in the United States, notably
> among African Americans.
>
> And even within China, more than 20 percent of the people in certain
> cities are classified as seriously overweight.
>
> The international standard for determining obesity is the body-mass
> index (BMI), defined as one's weight in kilograms divided by the square
> of one's height in meters.
>
> A person who is 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) tall and weights 90 kilos
> (198 pounds) will be considered as overweight because his BMI -- 27.8 --
> is above 25kg/m2, and would be classified as obese if weighing 100 kilos
> (220 pounds), yielding a BMI -- 30.8 -- above 30kg/m2.
>
> In the United States, 30 percent of adults are clinically obese, some 60
> million people. In Europe, Britain tops the list with 23 percent, nearly
> twice the rate in Germany, where 12 percent tip the scales into obesity,
> according to the OECD. Italy -- the land of pasta -- only counts eight
> percent of its population as severely overweight.
>
> But even in European countries where obesity is less prevalent, the
> percentage has increased steadily over time. In France, with a
> population of just over 60 million, 5.9 million people are obese today,
> whereas the figure for 10 years ago was only 3.6.
>
> Overall, there are some 200 million adults in the EU -- fully 45 percent
> of the population -- who are measurably overweight.
>
> Rates of excess weight and obesity have climbed to alarming levels among
> children too, experts say.
>
> There are about 14 million overweight pre-teen
> youngsters in the European Union -- at least 3 million of them obese --
> with an additional 500,000 crossing the line every year, according to
> recent study by the International Task Force on Obesity.
>
> In Portugal, more than 30 percent of 9-to-16 year olds are obese, three
> times more than a decade ago, prompting health minister Antonio Correia
> de Campos to warn recently that "50 percent of the Portuguese population
> will be obese in 2050 if nothing is done."
>
> In the United States, the proportion of youth between the age of six and
> 19 classified as overweight tripled between 1980 and 2002, according to
> a federal study published earlier this year by the Journal of the
> American Medical Association.
>
> Developing countries are not immune to the problem, experts note. In
> Thailand, for example, the percentage of five-to-twelve year olds who
> are obese has climbed from 12.2 to 15.6 in only two years, according to
> WHO.
>
> In general, obesity rates start to climb towards epidemic levels in
> developing nations as the sedentary lifestyles and rich diets -- laden
> with sugar, fats and salt -- common in many Western countries take hold,
> noted experts and the 10th International Congress on Obesity, held in
> Sydney in September.

Actually, people gain weight when they start overeating as food becomes
more readily available and they are brainwashed into fearing hunger to
compel them to eat more.

> The exploding rates of obesity contribute heavily to increased rates of
> many chronic diseases such as type-2 diabetes, hyper-tension,
> arteriosclerosis, cerebral hemorrhaging, and certain kinds of cancer.
>
> Type-2 diabetes was once a disease that only affected adults, most often
> advanced in age, but today it has become common even among obese
> pre-adolescent children, WHO said.
> Ninety percent of those afflicted with type-2 diabetes are either
> overweight or obese.

Visceral adipose tissue (VAT) from overeating causes type-2 diabetes.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Witchy Way wrote:
> > One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
> > Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern
> >
> > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html
> >
> > For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
> > overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
> > Health Organization.
> >
> > The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
> > economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
> > prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
> > epidemic, says WHO.
> >
> > A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
> > considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
> > to eat.
> >
> > Some 2,000 health experts gather in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday for
> > a four-day conference on treatment and prevention of obesity, organized
> > by the North American Society for the Study of Obesity (NAASO).
> >
> > While accounting for less than five percent of the population in China,
> > Japan and some African nations, the proportion of obesity -- at the
> > other extreme -- exceeds 75 percent in some urban zones of Samoa, and 45
> > percent among certain demographic groups in the United States, notably
> > among African Americans.
> >
> > And even within China, more than 20 percent of the people in certain
> > cities are classified as seriously overweight.
> >
> > The international standard for determining obesity is the body-mass
> > index (BMI), defined as one's weight in kilograms divided by the square
> > of one's height in meters.
> >
> > A person who is 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) tall and weights 90 kilos
> > (198 pounds) will be considered as overweight because his BMI -- 27.8 --
> > is above 25kg/m2, and would be classified as obese if weighing 100 kilos
> > (220 pounds), yielding a BMI -- 30.8 -- above 30kg/m2.
> >
> > In the United States, 30 percent of adults are clinically obese, some 60
> > million people. In Europe, Britain tops the list with 23 percent, nearly
> > twice the rate in Germany, where 12 percent tip the scales into obesity,
> > according to the OECD. Italy -- the land of pasta -- only counts eight
> > percent of its population as severely overweight.
> >
> > But even in European countries where obesity is less prevalent, the
> > percentage has increased steadily over time. In France, with a
> > population of just over 60 million, 5.9 million people are obese today,
> > whereas the figure for 10 years ago was only 3.6.
> >
> > Overall, there are some 200 million adults in the EU -- fully 45 percent
> > of the population -- who are measurably overweight.
> >
> > Rates of excess weight and obesity have climbed to alarming levels among
> > children too, experts say.
> >
> > There are about 14 million overweight pre-teen
> > youngsters in the European Union -- at least 3 million of them obese --
> > with an additional 500,000 crossing the line every year, according to
> > recent study by the International Task Force on Obesity.
> >
> > In Portugal, more than 30 percent of 9-to-16 year olds are obese, three
> > times more than a decade ago, prompting health minister Antonio Correia
> > de Campos to warn recently that "50 percent of the Portuguese population
> > will be obese in 2050 if nothing is done."
> >
> > In the United States, the proportion of youth between the age of six and
> > 19 classified as overweight tripled between 1980 and 2002, according to
> > a federal study published earlier this year by the Journal of the
> > American Medical Association.
> >
> > Developing countries are not immune to the problem, experts note. In
> > Thailand, for example, the percentage of five-to-twelve year olds who
> > are obese has climbed from 12.2 to 15.6 in only two years, according to
> > WHO.
> >
> > In general, obesity rates start to climb towards epidemic levels in
> > developing nations as the sedentary lifestyles and rich diets -- laden
> > with sugar, fats and salt -- common in many Western countries take hold,
> > noted experts and the 10th International Congress on Obesity, held in
> > Sydney in September.
>
> Actually, people gain weight when they start overeating as food becomes
> more readily available and they are brainwashed into fearing hunger to
> compel them to eat more.
>
> > The exploding rates of obesity contribute heavily to increased rates of
> > many chronic diseases such as type-2 diabetes, hyper-tension,
> > arteriosclerosis, cerebral hemorrhaging, and certain kinds of cancer.
> >
> > Type-2 diabetes was once a disease that only affected adults, most often
> > advanced in age, but today it has become common even among obese
> > pre-adolescent children, WHO said.
> > Ninety percent of those afflicted with type-2 diabetes are either
> > overweight or obese.
>
> Visceral adipose tissue (VAT) from overeating causes type-2 diabetes.

Can there be some other factors which can result into obesity directly
r indirectly in modern times due to modern introductions and
interventions?

> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Witchy Way wrote:
> > > One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
> > > Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern
> > >
> > > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html
> > >
> > > For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
> > > overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
> > > Health Organization.
> > >
> > > The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
> > > economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
> > > prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
> > > epidemic, says WHO.
> > >
> > > A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
> > > considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
> > > to eat.
> > >
> > > Some 2,000 health experts gather in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday for
> > > a four-day conference on treatment and prevention of obesity, organized
> > > by the North American Society for the Study of Obesity (NAASO).
> > >
> > > While accounting for less than five percent of the population in China,
> > > Japan and some African nations, the proportion of obesity -- at the
> > > other extreme -- exceeds 75 percent in some urban zones of Samoa, and 45
> > > percent among certain demographic groups in the United States, notably
> > > among African Americans.
> > >
> > > And even within China, more than 20 percent of the people in certain
> > > cities are classified as seriously overweight.
> > >
> > > The international standard for determining obesity is the body-mass
> > > index (BMI), defined as one's weight in kilograms divided by the square
> > > of one's height in meters.
> > >
> > > A person who is 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) tall and weights 90 kilos
> > > (198 pounds) will be considered as overweight because his BMI -- 27.8 --
> > > is above 25kg/m2, and would be classified as obese if weighing 100 kilos
> > > (220 pounds), yielding a BMI -- 30.8 -- above 30kg/m2.
> > >
> > > In the United States, 30 percent of adults are clinically obese, some 60
> > > million people. In Europe, Britain tops the list with 23 percent, nearly
> > > twice the rate in Germany, where 12 percent tip the scales into obesity,
> > > according to the OECD. Italy -- the land of pasta -- only counts eight
> > > percent of its population as severely overweight.
> > >
> > > But even in European countries where obesity is less prevalent, the
> > > percentage has increased steadily over time. In France, with a
> > > population of just over 60 million, 5.9 million people are obese today,
> > > whereas the figure for 10 years ago was only 3.6.
> > >
> > > Overall, there are some 200 million adults in the EU -- fully 45 percent
> > > of the population -- who are measurably overweight.
> > >
> > > Rates of excess weight and obesity have climbed to alarming levels among
> > > children too, experts say.
> > >
> > > There are about 14 million overweight pre-teen
> > > youngsters in the European Union -- at least 3 million of them obese --
> > > with an additional 500,000 crossing the line every year, according to
> > > recent study by the International Task Force on Obesity.
> > >
> > > In Portugal, more than 30 percent of 9-to-16 year olds are obese, three
> > > times more than a decade ago, prompting health minister Antonio Correia
> > > de Campos to warn recently that "50 percent of the Portuguese population
> > > will be obese in 2050 if nothing is done."
> > >
> > > In the United States, the proportion of youth between the age of six and
> > > 19 classified as overweight tripled between 1980 and 2002, according to
> > > a federal study published earlier this year by the Journal of the
> > > American Medical Association.
> > >
> > > Developing countries are not immune to the problem, experts note. In
> > > Thailand, for example, the percentage of five-to-twelve year olds who
> > > are obese has climbed from 12.2 to 15.6 in only two years, according to
> > > WHO.
> > >
> > > In general, obesity rates start to climb towards epidemic levels in
> > > developing nations as the sedentary lifestyles and rich diets -- laden
> > > with sugar, fats and salt -- common in many Western countries take hold,
> > > noted experts and the 10th International Congress on Obesity, held in
> > > Sydney in September.
> >
> > Actually, people gain weight when they start overeating as food becomes
> > more readily available and they are brainwashed into fearing hunger to
> > compel them to eat more.
> >
> > > The exploding rates of obesity contribute heavily to increased rates of
> > > many chronic diseases such as type-2 diabetes, hyper-tension,
> > > arteriosclerosis, cerebral hemorrhaging, and certain kinds of cancer.
> > >
> > > Type-2 diabetes was once a disease that only affected adults, most often
> > > advanced in age, but today it has become common even among obese
> > > pre-adolescent children, WHO said.
> > > Ninety percent of those afflicted with type-2 diabetes are either
> > > overweight or obese.
> >
> > Visceral adipose tissue (VAT) from overeating causes type-2 diabetes.
>
> Can there be some other factors which can result into obesity directly
> r indirectly in modern times due to modern introductions and
> interventions?

The sole cause of obesity is overeating:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...dcf43b835714d?

The truth is absolute:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...9759318ef2647?

The truth is a double edged sword that cuts right from wrong:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...b5dc947a0781f?

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Witchy Way wrote:
> > > > One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
> > > > Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern
> > > >
> > > > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html
> > > >
> > > > For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
> > > > overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
> > > > Health Organization.
> > > >
> > > > The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
> > > > economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
> > > > prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
> > > > epidemic, says WHO.
> > > >
> > > > A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
> > > > considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
> > > > to eat.
> > > >
> > > > Some 2,000 health experts gather in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday for
> > > > a four-day conference on treatment and prevention of obesity, organized
> > > > by the North American Society for the Study of Obesity (NAASO).
> > > >
> > > > While accounting for less than five percent of the population in China,
> > > > Japan and some African nations, the proportion of obesity -- at the
> > > > other extreme -- exceeds 75 percent in some urban zones of Samoa, and 45
> > > > percent among certain demographic groups in the United States, notably
> > > > among African Americans.
> > > >
> > > > And even within China, more than 20 percent of the people in certain
> > > > cities are classified as seriously overweight.
> > > >
> > > > The international standard for determining obesity is the body-mass
> > > > index (BMI), defined as one's weight in kilograms divided by the square
> > > > of one's height in meters.
> > > >
> > > > A person who is 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) tall and weights 90 kilos
> > > > (198 pounds) will be considered as overweight because his BMI -- 27.8 --
> > > > is above 25kg/m2, and would be classified as obese if weighing 100 kilos
> > > > (220 pounds), yielding a BMI -- 30.8 -- above 30kg/m2.
> > > >
> > > > In the United States, 30 percent of adults are clinically obese, some 60
> > > > million people. In Europe, Britain tops the list with 23 percent, nearly
> > > > twice the rate in Germany, where 12 percent tip the scales into obesity,
> > > > according to the OECD. Italy -- the land of pasta -- only counts eight
> > > > percent of its population as severely overweight.
> > > >
> > > > But even in European countries where obesity is less prevalent, the
> > > > percentage has increased steadily over time. In France, with a
> > > > population of just over 60 million, 5.9 million people are obese today,
> > > > whereas the figure for 10 years ago was only 3.6.
> > > >
> > > > Overall, there are some 200 million adults in the EU -- fully 45 percent
> > > > of the population -- who are measurably overweight.
> > > >
> > > > Rates of excess weight and obesity have climbed to alarming levels among
> > > > children too, experts say.
> > > >
> > > > There are about 14 million overweight pre-teen
> > > > youngsters in the European Union -- at least 3 million of them obese --
> > > > with an additional 500,000 crossing the line every year, according to
> > > > recent study by the International Task Force on Obesity.
> > > >
> > > > In Portugal, more than 30 percent of 9-to-16 year olds are obese, three
> > > > times more than a decade ago, prompting health minister Antonio Correia
> > > > de Campos to warn recently that "50 percent of the Portuguese population
> > > > will be obese in 2050 if nothing is done."
> > > >
> > > > In the United States, the proportion of youth between the age of six and
> > > > 19 classified as overweight tripled between 1980 and 2002, according to
> > > > a federal study published earlier this year by the Journal of the
> > > > American Medical Association.
> > > >
> > > > Developing countries are not immune to the problem, experts note. In
> > > > Thailand, for example, the percentage of five-to-twelve year olds who
> > > > are obese has climbed from 12.2 to 15.6 in only two years, according to
> > > > WHO.
> > > >
> > > > In general, obesity rates start to climb towards epidemic levels in
> > > > developing nations as the sedentary lifestyles and rich diets -- laden
> > > > with sugar, fats and salt -- common in many Western countries take hold,
> > > > noted experts and the 10th International Congress on Obesity, held in
> > > > Sydney in September.
> > >
> > > Actually, people gain weight when they start overeating as food becomes
> > > more readily available and they are brainwashed into fearing hunger to
> > > compel them to eat more.
> > >
> > > > The exploding rates of obesity contribute heavily to increased rates of
> > > > many chronic diseases such as type-2 diabetes, hyper-tension,
> > > > arteriosclerosis, cerebral hemorrhaging, and certain kinds of cancer.
> > > >
> > > > Type-2 diabetes was once a disease that only affected adults, most often
> > > > advanced in age, but today it has become common even among obese
> > > > pre-adolescent children, WHO said.
> > > > Ninety percent of those afflicted with type-2 diabetes are either
> > > > overweight or obese.
> > >
> > > Visceral adipose tissue (VAT) from overeating causes type-2 diabetes.
> >
> > Can there be some other factors which can result into obesity directly
> > r indirectly in modern times due to modern introductions and
> > interventions?
>
> The sole cause of obesity is overeating:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...dcf43b835714d?

Although fasting/calorie restriction/some food aversion are commonly
practiced since ages esp. by other species, one research in paper
indicates that excessive nutrients to cells may enhance their early
divisions which may result into shortnening of life. How body's natural
mechanism can decrease excessive exposure of nutrients to cells if
food intake is more?

> The truth is absolute:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...9759318ef2647?
Yes. Can/do we anticipate "absolute"(free from imperfection or change)
in modern system?
Do we have sme "absolutes" in modern/conventional understandings? Why
understandings remains changing?

Someone indicated somewhat absoulute

""Therapies which have such undefined boundaries,
that they may at any time accept new remedies,
and may like wise retain or reject old remedies,
cannot offer the security necessary in service
of a patient, and in the intrest of science.
To create a therapy with sharply defined
boundaries, has been for a long time,
my endeavour"

......By Dr.William.H.Schuessler,1874

I don't know, how it can be valid.

> The truth is a double edged sword that cuts right from wrong:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...b5dc947a0781f?

"Excess of everything is bad"[whether good or bad]
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Witchy Way wrote:
> > > > > One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
> > > > > Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html
> > > > >
> > > > > For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
> > > > > overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
> > > > > Health Organization.
> > > > >
> > > > > The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
> > > > > economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
> > > > > prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
> > > > > epidemic, says WHO.
> > > > >
> > > > > A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
> > > > > considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
> > > > > to eat.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some 2,000 health experts gather in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday for
> > > > > a four-day conference on treatment and prevention of obesity, organized
> > > > > by the North American Society for the Study of Obesity (NAASO).
> > > > >
> > > > > While accounting for less than five percent of the population in China,
> > > > > Japan and some African nations, the proportion of obesity -- at the
> > > > > other extreme -- exceeds 75 percent in some urban zones of Samoa, and 45
> > > > > percent among certain demographic groups in the United States, notably
> > > > > among African Americans.
> > > > >
> > > > > And even within China, more than 20 percent of the people in certain
> > > > > cities are classified as seriously overweight.
> > > > >
> > > > > The international standard for determining obesity is the body-mass
> > > > > index (BMI), defined as one's weight in kilograms divided by the square
> > > > > of one's height in meters.
> > > > >
> > > > > A person who is 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) tall and weights 90 kilos
> > > > > (198 pounds) will be considered as overweight because his BMI -- 27.8 --
> > > > > is above 25kg/m2, and would be classified as obese if weighing 100 kilos
> > > > > (220 pounds), yielding a BMI -- 30.8 -- above 30kg/m2.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the United States, 30 percent of adults are clinically obese, some 60
> > > > > million people. In Europe, Britain tops the list with 23 percent, nearly
> > > > > twice the rate in Germany, where 12 percent tip the scales into obesity,
> > > > > according to the OECD. Italy -- the land of pasta -- only counts eight
> > > > > percent of its population as severely overweight.
> > > > >
> > > > > But even in European countries where obesity is less prevalent, the
> > > > > percentage has increased steadily over time. In France, with a
> > > > > population of just over 60 million, 5.9 million people are obese today,
> > > > > whereas the figure for 10 years ago was only 3.6.
> > > > >
> > > > > Overall, there are some 200 million adults in the EU -- fully 45 percent
> > > > > of the population -- who are measurably overweight.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rates of excess weight and obesity have climbed to alarming levels among
> > > > > children too, experts say.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are about 14 million overweight pre-teen
> > > > > youngsters in the European Union -- at least 3 million of them obese --
> > > > > with an additional 500,000 crossing the line every year, according to
> > > > > recent study by the International Task Force on Obesity.
> > > > >
> > > > > In Portugal, more than 30 percent of 9-to-16 year olds are obese, three
> > > > > times more than a decade ago, prompting health minister Antonio Correia
> > > > > de Campos to warn recently that "50 percent of the Portuguese population
> > > > > will be obese in 2050 if nothing is done."
> > > > >
> > > > > In the United States, the proportion of youth between the age of six and
> > > > > 19 classified as overweight tripled between 1980 and 2002, according to
> > > > > a federal study published earlier this year by the Journal of the
> > > > > American Medical Association.
> > > > >
> > > > > Developing countries are not immune to the problem, experts note. In
> > > > > Thailand, for example, the percentage of five-to-twelve year olds who
> > > > > are obese has climbed from 12.2 to 15.6 in only two years, according to
> > > > > WHO.
> > > > >
> > > > > In general, obesity rates start to climb towards epidemic levels in
> > > > > developing nations as the sedentary lifestyles and rich diets -- laden
> > > > > with sugar, fats and salt -- common in many Western countries take hold,
> > > > > noted experts and the 10th International Congress on Obesity, held in
> > > > > Sydney in September.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, people gain weight when they start overeating as food becomes
> > > > more readily available and they are brainwashed into fearing hunger to
> > > > compel them to eat more.
> > > >
> > > > > The exploding rates of obesity contribute heavily to increased rates of
> > > > > many chronic diseases such as type-2 diabetes, hyper-tension,
> > > > > arteriosclerosis, cerebral hemorrhaging, and certain kinds of cancer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Type-2 diabetes was once a disease that only affected adults, most often
> > > > > advanced in age, but today it has become common even among obese
> > > > > pre-adolescent children, WHO said.
> > > > > Ninety percent of those afflicted with type-2 diabetes are either
> > > > > overweight or obese.
> > > >
> > > > Visceral adipose tissue (VAT) from overeating causes type-2 diabetes.
> > >
> > > Can there be some other factors which can result into obesity directly
> > > r indirectly in modern times due to modern introductions and
> > > interventions?
> >
> > The sole cause of obesity is overeating:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...dcf43b835714d?
>
> Although fasting/calorie restriction/some food aversion are commonly
> practiced since ages esp. by other species, one research in paper
> indicates that excessive nutrients to cells may enhance their early
> divisions which may result into shortnening of life. How body's natural
> mechanism can decrease excessive exposure of nutrients to cells if
> food intake is more?

Wiser to not overeat.

> > The truth is absolute:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...9759318ef2647?

> Yes. Can/do we anticipate "absolute"(free from imperfection or change)
> in modern system?

We anticipate perfection in GOD's plan for a new heaven, near earth,
and new Jerusalem.

> Do we have sme "absolutes" in modern/conventional understandings? Why
> understandings remains changing?

The old must pass away to make way for the new.

"New wine is not poured into old wineskins." -- Holy Spirit

> Someone indicated somewhat absoulute
>
> ""Therapies which have such undefined boundaries,
> that they may at any time accept new remedies,
> and may like wise retain or reject old remedies,
> cannot offer the security necessary in service
> of a patient, and in the intrest of science.
> To create a therapy with sharply defined
> boundaries, has been for a long time,
> my endeavour"
>
> .....By Dr.William.H.Schuessler,1874
>
> I don't know, how it can be valid.

GOD's will be done and not our wills.

> > The truth is a double edged sword that cuts right from wrong:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...b5dc947a0781f?
>
> "Excess of everything is bad"[whether good or bad]

That which is contrary to GOD's will is bad and is known as sin.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Witchy Way wrote:
> > > > > > One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
> > > > > > Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
> > > > > > overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
> > > > > > Health Organization.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
> > > > > > economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
> > > > > > prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
> > > > > > epidemic, says WHO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
> > > > > > considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
> > > > > > to eat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some 2,000 health experts gather in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday for
> > > > > > a four-day conference on treatment and prevention of obesity, organized
> > > > > > by the North American Society for the Study of Obesity (NAASO).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While accounting for less than five percent of the population in China,
> > > > > > Japan and some African nations, the proportion of obesity -- at the
> > > > > > other extreme -- exceeds 75 percent in some urban zones of Samoa, and 45
> > > > > > percent among certain demographic groups in the United States, notably
> > > > > > among African Americans.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And even within China, more than 20 percent of the people in certain
> > > > > > cities are classified as seriously overweight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The international standard for determining obesity is the body-mass
> > > > > > index (BMI), defined as one's weight in kilograms divided by the square
> > > > > > of one's height in meters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A person who is 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) tall and weights 90 kilos
> > > > > > (198 pounds) will be considered as overweight because his BMI -- 27.8 --
> > > > > > is above 25kg/m2, and would be classified as obese if weighing 100 kilos
> > > > > > (220 pounds), yielding a BMI -- 30.8 -- above 30kg/m2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the United States, 30 percent of adults are clinically obese, some 60
> > > > > > million people. In Europe, Britain tops the list with 23 percent, nearly
> > > > > > twice the rate in Germany, where 12 percent tip the scales into obesity,
> > > > > > according to the OECD. Italy -- the land of pasta -- only counts eight
> > > > > > percent of its population as severely overweight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But even in European countries where obesity is less prevalent, the
> > > > > > percentage has increased steadily over time. In France, with a
> > > > > > population of just over 60 million, 5.9 million people are obese today,
> > > > > > whereas the figure for 10 years ago was only 3.6.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Overall, there are some 200 million adults in the EU -- fully 45 percent
> > > > > > of the population -- who are measurably overweight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rates of excess weight and obesity have climbed to alarming levels among
> > > > > > children too, experts say.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are about 14 million overweight pre-teen
> > > > > > youngsters in the European Union -- at least 3 million of them obese --
> > > > > > with an additional 500,000 crossing the line every year, according to
> > > > > > recent study by the International Task Force on Obesity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In Portugal, more than 30 percent of 9-to-16 year olds are obese, three
> > > > > > times more than a decade ago, prompting health minister Antonio Correia
> > > > > > de Campos to warn recently that "50 percent of the Portuguese population
> > > > > > will be obese in 2050 if nothing is done."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the United States, the proportion of youth between the age of six and
> > > > > > 19 classified as overweight tripled between 1980 and 2002, according to
> > > > > > a federal study published earlier this year by the Journal of the
> > > > > > American Medical Association.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Developing countries are not immune to the problem, experts note. In
> > > > > > Thailand, for example, the percentage of five-to-twelve year olds who
> > > > > > are obese has climbed from 12.2 to 15.6 in only two years, according to
> > > > > > WHO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In general, obesity rates start to climb towards epidemic levels in
> > > > > > developing nations as the sedentary lifestyles and rich diets -- laden
> > > > > > with sugar, fats and salt -- common in many Western countries take hold,
> > > > > > noted experts and the 10th International Congress on Obesity, held in
> > > > > > Sydney in September.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, people gain weight when they start overeating as food becomes
> > > > > more readily available and they are brainwashed into fearing hunger to
> > > > > compel them to eat more.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The exploding rates of obesity contribute heavily to increased rates of
> > > > > > many chronic diseases such as type-2 diabetes, hyper-tension,
> > > > > > arteriosclerosis, cerebral hemorrhaging, and certain kinds of cancer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Type-2 diabetes was once a disease that only affected adults, most often
> > > > > > advanced in age, but today it has become common even among obese
> > > > > > pre-adolescent children, WHO said.
> > > > > > Ninety percent of those afflicted with type-2 diabetes are either
> > > > > > overweight or obese.
> > > > >
> Visceral adipose tissue (VAT) from overeating causes type-2
diabetes.

"LDH catalyzes the interconversion of pyruvate and lactate. Exercising
muscles convert (and red blood cells metabolize) glucose to lactate.
Lactate is released into the blood and is eventually taken up by the
liver. The liver converts lactate back to glucose and releases glucose
into the blood. This glucose is then taken up by resting muscles, red
blood cells, and other tissues.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003471.htm "

Whether glucose is not taken up and metabolized by be excercising
muscles?


> > > > Can there be some other factors which can result into obesity directly
> > > > r indirectly in modern times due to modern introductions and
> > > > interventions?
> > >
> > > The sole cause of obesity is overeating:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...dcf43b835714d?

Whether VAT is greater visceral adiposity or just greater
adiposity(excess over SAT)?

> > Although fasting/calorie restriction/some food aversion are commonly
> > practiced since ages esp. by other species, one research in paper
> > indicates that excessive nutrients to cells may enhance their early
> > divisions which may result into shortnening of life. How body's natural
> > mechanism can decrease excessive exposure of nutrients to cells if
> > food intake is more?
>
> Wiser to not overeat.

Can vasoconstriction decrease excessive exposure of nutrients to
cells?

Can changes on intestinal muscles tone or tone of vessels in intestine
cause variations in absorption of various nuterients?

> > > The truth is absolute:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...9759318ef2647?
>
> > Yes. Can/do we anticipate "absolute"(free from imperfection or change)
> > in modern system?
>
> We anticipate perfection in GOD's plan for a new heaven, near earth,
> and new Jerusalem.

Whether previous GOD's plans are not perfect?
> > Do we have some "absolutes" in modern/conventional understandings? Why
> > understandings remains changing?
>
> The old must pass away to make way for the new.
Whether "Wiser to not overeat" is an absolute aspect? If yes, how such
saying can pass away to make way for the new? .
> "New wine is not poured into old wineskins." -- Holy Spirit

Still, Holy Spirit can be truth and absolute.

> > Someone indicated somewhat absoulute
> >
> > ""Therapies which have such undefined boundaries,
> > that they may at any time accept new remedies,
> > and may like wise retain or reject old remedies,
> > cannot offer the security necessary in service
> > of a patient, and in the intrest of science.
> > To create a therapy with sharply defined
> > boundaries, has been for a long time,
> > my endeavour"
> >
> > .....By Dr.William.H.Schuessler,1874
> >
> > I don't know, how it can be valid.
>
> GOD's will be done and not our wills.
"Absolutes/truth always remain truth and absolute. They never pass away
to make way for the new".
> > > The truth is a double edged sword that cuts right from wrong:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...b5dc947a0781f?
> >
> > "Excess of everything is bad"[whether good or bad]
>
> That which is contrary to GOD's will is bad and is known as sin.
I.e..."excess of anything".
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > Witchy Way wrote:
> > > > > > > One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
> > > > > > > Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
> > > > > > > overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
> > > > > > > Health Organization.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
> > > > > > > economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
> > > > > > > prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
> > > > > > > epidemic, says WHO.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
> > > > > > > considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
> > > > > > > to eat.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some 2,000 health experts gather in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday for
> > > > > > > a four-day conference on treatment and prevention of obesity, organized
> > > > > > > by the North American Society for the Study of Obesity (NAASO).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > While accounting for less than five percent of the population in China,
> > > > > > > Japan and some African nations, the proportion of obesity -- at the
> > > > > > > other extreme -- exceeds 75 percent in some urban zones of Samoa, and 45
> > > > > > > percent among certain demographic groups in the United States, notably
> > > > > > > among African Americans.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And even within China, more than 20 percent of the people in certain
> > > > > > > cities are classified as seriously overweight.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The international standard for determining obesity is the body-mass
> > > > > > > index (BMI), defined as one's weight in kilograms divided by the square
> > > > > > > of one's height in meters.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A person who is 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) tall and weights 90 kilos
> > > > > > > (198 pounds) will be considered as overweight because his BMI -- 27.8 --
> > > > > > > is above 25kg/m2, and would be classified as obese if weighing 100 kilos
> > > > > > > (220 pounds), yielding a BMI -- 30.8 -- above 30kg/m2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the United States, 30 percent of adults are clinically obese, some 60
> > > > > > > million people. In Europe, Britain tops the list with 23 percent, nearly
> > > > > > > twice the rate in Germany, where 12 percent tip the scales into obesity,
> > > > > > > according to the OECD. Italy -- the land of pasta -- only counts eight
> > > > > > > percent of its population as severely overweight.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But even in European countries where obesity is less prevalent, the
> > > > > > > percentage has increased steadily over time. In France, with a
> > > > > > > population of just over 60 million, 5.9 million people are obese today,
> > > > > > > whereas the figure for 10 years ago was only 3.6.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Overall, there are some 200 million adults in the EU -- fully 45 percent
> > > > > > > of the population -- who are measurably overweight.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rates of excess weight and obesity have climbed to alarming levels among
> > > > > > > children too, experts say.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are about 14 million overweight pre-teen
> > > > > > > youngsters in the European Union -- at least 3 million of them obese --
> > > > > > > with an additional 500,000 crossing the line every year, according to
> > > > > > > recent study by the International Task Force on Obesity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In Portugal, more than 30 percent of 9-to-16 year olds are obese, three
> > > > > > > times more than a decade ago, prompting health minister Antonio Correia
> > > > > > > de Campos to warn recently that "50 percent of the Portuguese population
> > > > > > > will be obese in 2050 if nothing is done."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the United States, the proportion of youth between the age of six and
> > > > > > > 19 classified as overweight tripled between 1980 and 2002, according to
> > > > > > > a federal study published earlier this year by the Journal of the
> > > > > > > American Medical Association.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Developing countries are not immune to the problem, experts note. In
> > > > > > > Thailand, for example, the percentage of five-to-twelve year olds who
> > > > > > > are obese has climbed from 12.2 to 15.6 in only two years, according to
> > > > > > > WHO.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In general, obesity rates start to climb towards epidemic levels in
> > > > > > > developing nations as the sedentary lifestyles and rich diets -- laden
> > > > > > > with sugar, fats and salt -- common in many Western countries take hold,
> > > > > > > noted experts and the 10th International Congress on Obesity, held in
> > > > > > > Sydney in September.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, people gain weight when they start overeating as food becomes
> > > > > > more readily available and they are brainwashed into fearing hunger to
> > > > > > compel them to eat more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The exploding rates of obesity contribute heavily to increased rates of
> > > > > > > many chronic diseases such as type-2 diabetes, hyper-tension,
> > > > > > > arteriosclerosis, cerebral hemorrhaging, and certain kinds of cancer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Type-2 diabetes was once a disease that only affected adults, most often
> > > > > > > advanced in age, but today it has become common even among obese
> > > > > > > pre-adolescent children, WHO said.
> > > > > > > Ninety percent of those afflicted with type-2 diabetes are either
> > > > > > > overweight or obese.
> > > > > >
> > Visceral adipose tissue (VAT) from overeating causes type-2
> diabetes.
>
> "LDH catalyzes the interconversion of pyruvate and lactate. Exercising
> muscles convert (and red blood cells metabolize) glucose to lactate.
> Lactate is released into the blood and is eventually taken up by the
> liver. The liver converts lactate back to glucose and releases glucose
> into the blood. This glucose is then taken up by resting muscles, red
> blood cells, and other tissues.
> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003471.htm "
>
> Whether glucose is not taken up and metabolized by be excercising
> muscles?

It is but this is of limited usefulness for regulation of blood glucose
levels.

> > > > > Can there be some other factors which can result into obesity directly
> > > > > r indirectly in modern times due to modern introductions and
> > > > > interventions?
> > > >
> > > > The sole cause of obesity is overeating:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...dcf43b835714d?
>
> Whether VAT is greater visceral adiposity or just greater
> adiposity(excess over SAT)?

Both.

> > > Although fasting/calorie restriction/some food aversion are commonly
> > > practiced since ages esp. by other species, one research in paper
> > > indicates that excessive nutrients to cells may enhance their early
> > > divisions which may result into shortnening of life. How body's natural
> > > mechanism can decrease excessive exposure of nutrients to cells if
> > > food intake is more?
> >
> > Wiser to not overeat.
>
> Can vasoconstriction decrease excessive exposure of nutrients to
> cells?

Not clinically seen.

> Can changes on intestinal muscles tone or tone of vessels in intestine
> cause variations in absorption of various nuterients?

Not clinically observed.

> > > > The truth is absolute:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...9759318ef2647?
> >
> > > Yes. Can/do we anticipate "absolute"(free from imperfection or change)
> > > in modern system?
> >
> > We anticipate perfection in GOD's plan for a new heaven, near earth,
> > and new Jerusalem.
>
> Whether previous GOD's plans are not perfect?

GOD's plan for everything remains perfect.

> > > Do we have some "absolutes" in modern/conventional understandings? Why
> > > understandings remains changing?
> >
> > The old must pass away to make way for the new.
>
> Whether "Wiser to not overeat" is an absolute aspect?

It is the truth.

> If yes, how such
> saying can pass away to make way for the new? .

It is not a saying but the truth.

> > "New wine is not poured into old wineskins." -- Holy Spirit

Amen.

> Still, Holy Spirit can be truth and absolute.

The Holy Spirit is GOD.

> > > Someone indicated somewhat absoulute
> > >
> > > ""Therapies which have such undefined boundaries,
> > > that they may at any time accept new remedies,
> > > and may like wise retain or reject old remedies,
> > > cannot offer the security necessary in service
> > > of a patient, and in the intrest of science.
> > > To create a therapy with sharply defined
> > > boundaries, has been for a long time,
> > > my endeavour"
> > >
> > > .....By Dr.William.H.Schuessler,1874
> > >
> > > I don't know, how it can be valid.
> >
> > GOD's will be done and not our wills.

>
> "Absolutes/truth always remain truth and absolute. They never pass away
> to make way for the new".
>

The current world, current heaven, and current Jerusalem are neither
the truth nor absolute.


> > > > The truth is a double edged sword that cuts right from wrong:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...b5dc947a0781f?
> > >
> > > "Excess of everything is bad"[whether good or bad]
> >
> > That which is contrary to GOD's will is bad and is known as sin.

> I.e..."excess of anything".

Whether something is in excess depends on GOD's will.

May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > Witchy Way wrote:
> > > > > > > > One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
> > > > > > > > Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
> > > > > > > > overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
> > > > > > > > Health Organization.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
> > > > > > > > economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
> > > > > > > > prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
> > > > > > > > epidemic, says WHO.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
> > > > > > > > considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
> > > > > > > > to eat.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some 2,000 health experts gather in Boston, Massachusetts on Friday for
> > > > > > > > a four-day conference on treatment and prevention of obesity, organized
> > > > > > > > by the North American Society for the Study of Obesity (NAASO).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > While accounting for less than five percent of the population in China,
> > > > > > > > Japan and some African nations, the proportion of obesity -- at the
> > > > > > > > other extreme -- exceeds 75 percent in some urban zones of Samoa, and 45
> > > > > > > > percent among certain demographic groups in the United States, notably
> > > > > > > > among African Americans.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And even within China, more than 20 percent of the people in certain
> > > > > > > > cities are classified as seriously overweight.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The international standard for determining obesity is the body-mass
> > > > > > > > index (BMI), defined as one's weight in kilograms divided by the square
> > > > > > > > of one's height in meters.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A person who is 1.80 meters (5 feet 11 inches) tall and weights 90 kilos
> > > > > > > > (198 pounds) will be considered as overweight because his BMI -- 27.8 --
> > > > > > > > is above 25kg/m2, and would be classified as obese if weighing 100 kilos
> > > > > > > > (220 pounds), yielding a BMI -- 30.8 -- above 30kg/m2.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the United States, 30 percent of adults are clinically obese, some 60
> > > > > > > > million people. In Europe, Britain tops the list with 23 percent, nearly
> > > > > > > > twice the rate in Germany, where 12 percent tip the scales into obesity,
> > > > > > > > according to the OECD. Italy -- the land of pasta -- only counts eight
> > > > > > > > percent of its population as severely overweight.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But even in European countries where obesity is less prevalent, the
> > > > > > > > percentage has increased steadily over time. In France, with a
> > > > > > > > population of just over 60 million, 5.9 million people are obese today,
> > > > > > > > whereas the figure for 10 years ago was only 3.6.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Overall, there are some 200 million adults in the EU -- fully 45 percent
> > > > > > > > of the population -- who are measurably overweight.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rates of excess weight and obesity have climbed to alarming levels among
> > > > > > > > children too, experts say.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are about 14 million overweight pre-teen
> > > > > > > > youngsters in the European Union -- at least 3 million of them obese --
> > > > > > > > with an additional 500,000 crossing the line every year, according to
> > > > > > > > recent study by the International Task Force on Obesity.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In Portugal, more than 30 percent of 9-to-16 year olds are obese, three
> > > > > > > > times more than a decade ago, prompting health minister Antonio Correia
> > > > > > > > de Campos to warn recently that "50 percent of the Portuguese population
> > > > > > > > will be obese in 2050 if nothing is done."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the United States, the proportion of youth between the age of six and
> > > > > > > > 19 classified as overweight tripled between 1980 and 2002, according to
> > > > > > > > a federal study published earlier this year by the Journal of the
> > > > > > > > American Medical Association.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Developing countries are not immune to the problem, experts note. In
> > > > > > > > Thailand, for example, the percentage of five-to-twelve year olds who
> > > > > > > > are obese has climbed from 12.2 to 15.6 in only two years, according to
> > > > > > > > WHO.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In general, obesity rates start to climb towards epidemic levels in
> > > > > > > > developing nations as the sedentary lifestyles and rich diets -- laden
> > > > > > > > with sugar, fats and salt -- common in many Western countries take hold,
> > > > > > > > noted experts and the 10th International Congress on Obesity, held in
> > > > > > > > Sydney in September.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually, people gain weight when they start overeating as food becomes
> > > > > > > more readily available and they are brainwashed into fearing hunger to
> > > > > > > compel them to eat more.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The exploding rates of obesity contribute heavily to increased rates of
> > > > > > > > many chronic diseases such as type-2 diabetes, hyper-tension,
> > > > > > > > arteriosclerosis, cerebral hemorrhaging, and certain kinds of cancer.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Type-2 diabetes was once a disease that only affected adults, most often
> > > > > > > > advanced in age, but today it has become common even among obese
> > > > > > > > pre-adolescent children, WHO said.
> > > > > > > > Ninety percent of those afflicted with type-2 diabetes are either
> > > > > > > > overweight or obese.
> > > > > > >
> > > Visceral adipose tissue (VAT) from overeating causes type-2
> > diabetes.
> >
> > "LDH catalyzes the interconversion of pyruvate and lactate. Exercising
> > muscles convert (and red blood cells metabolize) glucose to lactate.
> > Lactate is released into the blood and is eventually taken up by the
> > liver. The liver converts lactate back to glucose and releases glucose
> > into the blood. This glucose is then taken up by resting muscles, red
> > blood cells, and other tissues.
> > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003471.htm "
> >
> > Whether glucose is not taken up and metabolized by excercising
> > muscles?
>
> It is but this is of limited usefulness for regulation of blood glucose
> levels.

Yes. On hyperglycemia, will excercising muscles produce excessive
intermediatory products of glycolysis esp. lactic acid?

Whether resting muscles and RBCs not need insulin or need less insulin
for intake of glucose?
> > > > > > Can there be some other factors which can result into obesity directly
> > > > > > r indirectly in modern times due to modern introductions and
> > > > > > interventions?
> > > > >
> > > > > The sole cause of obesity is overeating:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...dcf43b835714d?
> >
> > Whether VAT is greater visceral adiposity or just greater
> > adiposity(excess over SAT)?
>
> Both.
Can greater visceral adiposity is possible withour excess SAT?
> > > > Although fasting/calorie restriction/some food aversion are commonly
> > > > practiced since ages esp. by other species, one research in paper
> > > > indicates that excessive nutrients to cells may enhance their early
> > > > divisions which may result into shortnening of life. How body's natural
> > > > mechanism can decrease excessive exposure of nutrients to cells if
> > > > food intake is more?
> > >
> > > Wiser to not overeat.
> >
> > Can vasoconstriction decrease excessive exposure of nutrients to
> > cells?
>
> Not clinically seen.
>
> > Can changes on intestinal muscles tone or tone of vessels in intestine
> > cause variations in absorption of various nuterients?
>
> Not clinically observed.
>
> > > > > The truth is absolute:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...9759318ef2647?
> > >
> > > > Yes. Can/do we anticipate "absolute"(free from imperfection or change)
> > > > in modern system?
> > >
> > > We anticipate perfection in GOD's plan for a new heaven, near earth,
> > > and new Jerusalem.
> >
> > Whether previous GOD's plans are not perfect?
>
> GOD's plan for everything remains perfect.
>
> > > > Do we have some "absolutes" in modern/conventional understandings? Why
> > > > understandings remains changing?
> > >
> > > The old must pass away to make way for the new.
> >
> > Whether "Wiser to not overeat" is an absolute aspect?
>
> It is the truth.
>
> > If yes, how such
> > saying can pass away to make way for the new? .
>
> It is not a saying but the truth.
>
> > > "New wine is not poured into old wineskins." -- Holy Spirit
>
> Amen.
>
> > Still, Holy Spirit can be truth and absolute.
>
> The Holy Spirit is GOD.
>
> > > > Someone indicated somewhat absoulute
> > > >
> > > > ""Therapies which have such undefined boundaries,
> > > > that they may at any time accept new remedies,
> > > > and may like wise retain or reject old remedies,
> > > > cannot offer the security necessary in service
> > > > of a patient, and in the intrest of science.
> > > > To create a therapy with sharply defined
> > > > boundaries, has been for a long time,
> > > > my endeavour"
> > > >
> > > > .....By Dr.William.H.Schuessler,1874
> > > >
> > > > I don't know, how it can be valid.
> > >
> > > GOD's will be done and not our wills.
>
> >
> > "Absolutes/truth always remain truth and absolute. They never pass away
> > to make way for the new".
> >
>
> The current world, current heaven, and current Jerusalem are neither
> the truth nor absolute.
>
>
> > > > > The truth is a double edged sword that cuts right from wrong:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...b5dc947a0781f?
> > > >
> > > > "Excess of everything is bad"[whether good or bad]
> > >
> > > That which is contrary to GOD's will is bad and is known as sin.
>
> > I.e..."excess of anything".
>
> Whether something is in excess depends on GOD's will.
It is great thought. GOD should have not created imbalances on either
side but a homeostatic state.
> May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
> neighbor Kumar whom I love unconditionally.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
>
> As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
> unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ad7fe68478acf?

Kumar wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Kumar wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > Kumar wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > Witchy Way wrote:
> > > > > > > > > One billion people overweight, 300 million obese worldwide
> > > > > > > > > Oct 19 11:41 AM US/Eastern
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....r1ls71oh.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For every four adults in the world who are malnourished five more are
> > > > > > > > > overweight, 30 percent of them clinically obese, according to the World
> > > > > > > > > Health Organization.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The scourge of obesity, bringing in its train a host of health and
> > > > > > > > > economic problems that could one day cripple economies, is more
> > > > > > > > > prevalent in some countries than others, but still constitutes a global
> > > > > > > > > epidemic, says WHO.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A billion people out of the world's six billion population are now
> > > > > > > > > considered overweight, compared with 800 million who do not have enough
> > > > > > > > > to eat.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Some 2,000 health experts gather