OT: ATTN VERIZON USERS...ALT GROUPS *ARE* BEING CUT

Someone wrote in the other thread that they didn't think that this
group would be cut. ALL ALT. groups are getting the boot. See below
what Usenet groups will be here: Notice that all ALT groups are
missing.

IMPORTANT: CHANGE IN VERIZON NEWSGROUP SERVICE

On 06/24/2008, Verizon will be modifying its Newsgroup offerings to
only offer groups in the Big-8 Newsgroup hierarchies, which are listed
below. Users will not be able to post or download from any other
newsgroups.

comp.*
humanities.*
misc.*
news.*
rec.*
sci.*
soc.*
talk.*

More information on the Big 8 hierarchies is available at
www.big-8.org.

The 0.verizon.* newsgroup hierarchy will also continue to be
available.

In preparation for this change, you will need to modify your news
client(s) and unsubscribe from all newsgroups other than the
newsgroups listed above. Failure to do so may interfere with the
functioning of the Verizon network or use of the network by other
Verizon users which is a violation of our Acceptable Use Policy.



INFORMATION ABOUT CHANGES TO YOUR NEWSGROUP SERVICE


When will Verizon change its News service to carry only the Big 8?

The change will be effective on June 24, 2008. After June 24th,
Verizon’s Newsgroup service will carry only the Big 8 news hierarchies
and the 0.verizon.* hierarchy.

If I continue to use the Verizon News service, are any changes to my
software required?

There are no changes required to your software, but you will need to
unsubscribe from all Newsgroups other than the Big 8 hierarchies and
the 0.verizon.* hierarchy noted above. The following link explains
how to subscribe and unsubscribe in Outlook Express:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171190

Users that continue to subscribe to unsupported newsgroups may
experience poor computer performance and slow throughput speeds over a
period of time. Failure to unsubscribe may also interfere with the
functioning of the Verizon network or use of the network by other
Verizon users which is a violation of our Acceptable Use Policy.
]

If I want to access Newsgroups different from the ones you carry, what
are my options?

There are several commercial news providers that you can consider.
You may want to check out some options at
http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm. The content available, posting
policies, terms and prices will vary, so you should select the one
that is right for you. If you elect to access a non-Verizon newsgroup
over the Verizon Network, our terms of service and acceptable use
policy will still apply to your use of our Service.

Will this change to the newsgroup service affect my Internet service?

No. This change will NOT affect your ability to use the Internet or
other commercial newsgroup services. The change only affects the
number of newsgroups accessible through Verizon’s newsgroup
service.IMPORTANT: CHANGE IN VERIZON NEWSGROUP SERVICE

On 06/24/2008, Verizon will be modifying its Newsgroup offerings to
only offer groups in the Big-8 Newsgroup hierarchies, which are listed
below. Users will not be able to post or download from any other
newsgroups.

comp.*
humanities.*
misc.*
news.*
rec.*
sci.*
soc.*
talk.*

More information on the Big 8 hierarchies is available at
www.big-8.org.

The 0.verizon.* newsgroup hierarchy will also continue to be
available.

In preparation for this change, you will need to modify your news
client(s) and unsubscribe from all newsgroups other than the
newsgroups listed above. Failure to do so may interfere with the
functioning of the Verizon network or use of the network by other
Verizon users which is a violation of our Acceptable Use Policy.



INFORMATION ABOUT CHANGES TO YOUR NEWSGROUP SERVICE


When will Verizon change its News service to carry only the Big 8?

The change will be effective on June 24, 2008. After June 24th,
Verizon’s Newsgroup service will carry only the Big 8 news hierarchies
and the 0.verizon.* hierarchy.

If I continue to use the Verizon News service, are any changes to my
software required?

There are no changes required to your software, but you will need to
unsubscribe from all Newsgroups other than the Big 8 hierarchies and
the 0.verizon.* hierarchy noted above. The following link explains
how to subscribe and unsubscribe in Outlook Express:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171190

Users that continue to subscribe to unsupported newsgroups may
experience poor computer performance and slow throughput speeds over a
period of time. Failure to unsubscribe may also interfere with the
functioning of the Verizon network or use of the network by other
Verizon users which is a violation of our Acceptable Use Policy.
]

If I want to access Newsgroups different from the ones you carry, what
are my options?

There are several commercial news providers that you can consider.
You may want to check out some options at
http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm. The content available, posting
policies, terms and prices will vary, so you should select the one
that is right for you. If you elect to access a non-Verizon newsgroup
over the Verizon Network, our terms of service and acceptable use
policy will still apply to your use of our Service.

Will this change to the newsgroup service affect my Internet service?

No. This change will NOT affect your ability to use the Internet or
other commercial newsgroup services. The change only affects the
number of newsgroups accessible through Verizon’s newsgroup service.

Where, exactly, is this on VZ's website?

also, how can being subscribed to a ng they don't support mess up their
servers???

They certainly didn't notify customers in any obvious way about the
change -- which I learned about here in one of those evil "alt" groups!

I guess I'll just have to stick to misc. It's too much trouble just now to
do a whole new setup.
<grump>
I'll miss some of you guys!
bj

<Laura@notmy.com> wrote in message
newso77549lbibchcltuu6igqaq5ilhc9gbgl@4ax.com...
> Someone wrote in the other thread that they didn't think that this
> group would be cut. ALL ALT. groups are getting the boot. See below
> what Usenet groups will be here: Notice that all ALT groups are
> missing.
>
> IMPORTANT: CHANGE IN VERIZON NEWSGROUP SERVICE
>
> On 06/24/2008, Verizon will be modifying its Newsgroup offerings to
> only offer groups in the Big-8 Newsgroup hierarchies, which are listed
> below. Users will not be able to post or download from any other
> newsgroups.
>
..

"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:dXV4k.15484$3j2.14559@trnddc03...
> Where, exactly, is this on VZ's website?
>
> also, how can being subscribed to a ng they don't support mess up their
> servers???
>
> They certainly didn't notify customers in any obvious way about the
> change -- which I learned about here in one of those evil "alt" groups!
>
> I guess I'll just have to stick to misc. It's too much trouble just now to
> do a whole new setup.
> <grump>
> I'll miss some of you guys!

I wondered that too. They mentioned some changes a while back but I don't
remember seeing that specifically. I too am likely not to come here any
more if I can't get it through them.

bj,

I have not seen your message here yet, but my husband showed me your
question on his giganews which is in the process of getting set up and
then will set me up.

He did not find it on the verizon website. He found it posted in
another group. The actual announcement that I found can be found at

0.verizon.announce (that is zero.verizon.announce not OH)

Missed this the first go round
I answered it on Julies "ping" and in the first thread -- I didn't see
this post until after that of course <sigh>
I hope you find a way back here because I will miss seeing you if you
don't.

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:34:17 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:

>Where, exactly, is this on VZ's website?
>
>also, how can being subscribed to a ng they don't support mess up their
>servers???
>
>They certainly didn't notify customers in any obvious way about the
>change -- which I learned about here in one of those evil "alt" groups!
>
>I guess I'll just have to stick to misc. It's too much trouble just now to
>do a whole new setup.
><grump>
>I'll miss some of you guys!
>bj
>
><Laura@notmy.com> wrote in message
>newso77549lbibchcltuu6igqaq5ilhc9gbgl@4ax.com.. .
>> Someone wrote in the other thread that they didn't think that this
>> group would be cut. ALL ALT. groups are getting the boot. See below
>> what Usenet groups will be here: Notice that all ALT groups are
>> missing.
>>
>> IMPORTANT: CHANGE IN VERIZON NEWSGROUP SERVICE
>>
>> On 06/24/2008, Verizon will be modifying its Newsgroup offerings to
>> only offer groups in the Big-8 Newsgroup hierarchies, which are listed
>> below. Users will not be able to post or download from any other
>> newsgroups.
>>
>.
>
>
>

"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:dXV4k.15484$3j2.14559@trnddc03...
> Where, exactly, is this on VZ's website?
>
> also, how can being subscribed to a ng they don't support mess up their
> servers???
>
> They certainly didn't notify customers in any obvious way about the
> change -- which I learned about here in one of those evil "alt" groups!
>
> I guess I'll just have to stick to misc. It's too much trouble just now to
> do a whole new setup.

It takes about 3 minutes to set up an entire new account for news through
OE. I switched to individual news - a measly $15 per year (US $$$).
Subscribing to that and paying plus setting up the account wouldn't have
taken me more than 10 minutes max.

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message
news:6bjam9F3d4adjU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
> news:dXV4k.15484$3j2.14559@trnddc03...
>> Where, exactly, is this on VZ's website?
>>
>> also, how can being subscribed to a ng they don't support mess up their
>> servers???
>>
>> They certainly didn't notify customers in any obvious way about the
>> change -- which I learned about here in one of those evil "alt" groups!
>>
>> I guess I'll just have to stick to misc. It's too much trouble just now
>> to do a whole new setup.
>
> It takes about 3 minutes to set up an entire new account for news through
> OE. I switched to individual news - a measly $15 per year (US $$$).
> Subscribing to that and paying plus setting up the account wouldn't have
> taken me more than 10 minutes max.

Well, I have spent several hours trying to get a new news server and nothing
is working. Always the same message. Server cannot be found. And I know I
have the settings right.

I am not about to pay any more money for one. Not even $15 a year. It's
not worth it to me. I used to read an post to quite a few news groups. I
don't any more. Now there are very few and of those, very few posts. So no
point to me in paying for something like that.

<Laura@notmy.com> wrote in message
news:0lr854la31oj8b0rrnnoerem807cejq0ee@4ax.com...
> bj,
>
> I have not seen your message here yet, but my husband showed me your
> question on his giganews which is in the process of getting set up and
> then will set me up.
>
> He did not find it on the verizon website. He found it posted in
> another group. The actual announcement that I found can be found at
>
> 0.verizon.announce (that is zero.verizon.announce not OH)

Doesn't giganews cost money? Looked to me like it was free for only three
months.

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:44:10 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>news:dXV4k.15484$3j2.14559@trnddc03...
>> Where, exactly, is this on VZ's website?
>>
>> also, how can being subscribed to a ng they don't support mess up their
>> servers???
>>
>> They certainly didn't notify customers in any obvious way about the
>> change -- which I learned about here in one of those evil "alt" groups!
>>
>> I guess I'll just have to stick to misc. It's too much trouble just now to
>> do a whole new setup.
>> <grump>
>> I'll miss some of you guys!
>
>I wondered that too. They mentioned some changes a while back but I don't
>remember seeing that specifically. I too am likely not to come here any
>more if I can't get it through them.
>

y'all do know that the current version of Agent allows you to access
as many news servers as you want, at the same time.

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"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
news:535a54dmh79pm48uibsb9dqe1gpkpf1h5c@4ax.com...

> y'all do know that the current version of Agent allows you to access
> as many news servers as you want, at the same time.

I don't even know what Agent is.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-99....html#comments

Julie Bove wrote:
> <Laura@notmy.com> wrote in message
> news:0lr854la31oj8b0rrnnoerem807cejq0ee@4ax.com...
>> bj,
>>
>> I have not seen your message here yet, but my husband showed me your
>> question on his giganews which is in the process of getting set up and
>> then will set me up.
>>
>> He did not find it on the verizon website. He found it posted in
>> another group. The actual announcement that I found can be found at
>>
>> 0.verizon.announce (that is zero.verizon.announce not OH)
>
> Doesn't giganews cost money? Looked to me like it was free for only three
> months.
>
>
Try the free and easy-to-use Google Groups

"Uncle Enrico" <uncle@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%5b5k.8382$mh5.778@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> <Laura@notmy.com> wrote in message
>> news:0lr854la31oj8b0rrnnoerem807cejq0ee@4ax.com...
>>> bj,
>>>
>>> I have not seen your message here yet, but my husband showed me your
>>> question on his giganews which is in the process of getting set up and
>>> then will set me up.
>>>
>>> He did not find it on the verizon website. He found it posted in
>>> another group. The actual announcement that I found can be found at
>>>
>>> 0.verizon.announce (that is zero.verizon.announce not OH)
>>
>> Doesn't giganews cost money? Looked to me like it was free for only
>> three months.
> Try the free and easy-to-use Google Groups

Hell no! I tried that once on my parent's computer. I think they were on
*shudder* AOL at the time. I think I'd sooner have bamboo shoots under my
fingernails than do that again! There is nothing *easy* about Google
Groups.

Never had a problem with it.

I'm using it now.

For any other Verizon customers about to lose newsgroups...try it
rather than going without ASD.

jrickguard-u...@yahoo.com wrote about groups.google.com:
>
> Never had a problem with it.
>
> I'm using it now.
>
> For any other Verizon customers about to lose newsgroups...try it
> rather than going without ASD.

Moreover, though Verizon believes it can censor what folks post
through Google Groups under the guise of its AUP, it is far from the
truth just as Bellsouth once held a similar false belief until they
were swallowed up by at&t in an inauspicious take-over where more than
10,000 Bellsouth employees lost their jobs.

Such will be the demise of all who do not know and love the truth.

"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ.

Amen.

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of the Messiah, Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8be9f9918d825?

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:44:10 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
>"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>news:dXV4k.15484$3j2.14559@trnddc03...
>> Where, exactly, is this on VZ's website?
>>
>> also, how can being subscribed to a ng they don't support mess up their
>> servers???
>>
>> They certainly didn't notify customers in any obvious way about the
>> change -- which I learned about here in one of those evil "alt" groups!
>>
>> I guess I'll just have to stick to misc. It's too much trouble just now to
>> do a whole new setup.
>> <grump>
>> I'll miss some of you guys!
>
>I wondered that too. They mentioned some changes a while back but I don't
>remember seeing that specifically. I too am likely not to come here any
>more if I can't get it through them.

You'll both be missed if you stop posting here.. It goes to show that
when people stop posting it may well be nothing personal health wise.

Best wishes to both of you in finding a solution.
Perhaps the one found for Vivienne would work for you.

Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love15@thetruth.com> wrote in news:568cc63f-
2c2e-4ef5-a279-36a2be752d79@m45g2000...oglegroups.com:

> jrickguard-u...@yahoo.com wrote about groups.google.com:
>>
>> Never had a problem with it.
>>
>> I'm using it now.
>>
>> For any other Verizon customers about to lose newsgroups...try it
>> rather than going without ASD.
>
> Moreover, though Verizon believes it can censor what folks post
> through Google Groups under the guise of its AUP, it is far from the
> truth just as Bellsouth once held a similar false belief until they
> were swallowed up by at&t in an inauspicious take-over where more than
> 10,000 Bellsouth employees lost their jobs.
>
> Such will be the demise of all who do not know and love the truth.
>
> "I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> Amen.
>
> Marana tha
>
> Prayerfully in the awesome name of the Messiah, Jesus Christ,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8be9f9918d825?
>

Amen Brother

Thanks for the information.

Nicodemus wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > jrickguard-u...@yahoo.com wrote about groups.google.com:
> >>
> >> Never had a problem with it.
> >>
> >> I'm using it now.
> >>
> >> For any other Verizon customers about to lose newsgroups...try it
> >> rather than going without ASD.
> >
> > Moreover, though Verizon believes it can censor what folks post
> > through Google Groups under the guise of its AUP, it is far from the
> > truth just as Bellsouth once held a similar false belief until they
> > were swallowed up by at&t in an inauspicious take-over where more than
> > 10,000 Bellsouth employees lost their jobs.
> >
> > Such will be the demise of all who do not know and love the truth.
> >
> > "I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ.
> >
> > Amen.
> >
> > Marana tha
>
> Amen Brother
>
> Thanks for the information.

Laus Deo :-)

Prayerfully in the awesome name of the Messiah, Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8be9f9918d825?

"Quentin Grady" <quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:00oa54h6bn42gqjder04259738ttu90oit@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:44:10 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
>>news:dXV4k.15484$3j2.14559@trnddc03...
>>> Where, exactly, is this on VZ's website?
>>>
>>> also, how can being subscribed to a ng they don't support mess up their
>>> servers???
>>>
>>> They certainly didn't notify customers in any obvious way about the
>>> change -- which I learned about here in one of those evil "alt" groups!
>>>
>>> I guess I'll just have to stick to misc. It's too much trouble just now
>>> to
>>> do a whole new setup.
>>> <grump>
>>> I'll miss some of you guys!
>>
>>I wondered that too. They mentioned some changes a while back but I don't
>>remember seeing that specifically. I too am likely not to come here any
>>more if I can't get it through them.
>
> You'll both be missed if you stop posting here.. It goes to show that
> when people stop posting it may well be nothing personal health wise.
>
> Best wishes to both of you in finding a solution.
> Perhaps the one found for Vivienne would work for you.

I am now posting through aioe.

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:54:20 GMT, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net>
wrote:

>
><Laura@notmy.com> wrote in message
>news:0lr854la31oj8b0rrnnoerem807cejq0ee@4ax.com.. .
>> bj,
>>
>> I have not seen your message here yet, but my husband showed me your
>> question on his giganews which is in the process of getting set up and
>> then will set me up.
>>
>> He did not find it on the verizon website. He found it posted in
>> another group. The actual announcement that I found can be found at
>>
>> 0.verizon.announce (that is zero.verizon.announce not OH)
>
>Doesn't giganews cost money? Looked to me like it was free for only three
>months.
>
I wasn't saying that it was free. I was saying that I saw the post on
giganews before it showed up on Verizon. giganews is what my husband
has decided to switch to.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Nicodemus wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> jrickguard-u...@yahoo.com wrote about groups.google.com:
>>>> Never had a problem with it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using it now.
>>>>
>>>> For any other Verizon customers about to lose newsgroups...try it
>>>> rather than going without ASD.
>>> Moreover, though Verizon believes it can censor what folks post
>>> through Google Groups under the guise of its AUP, it is far from the
>>> truth just as Bellsouth once held a similar false belief until they
>>> were swallowed up by at&t in an inauspicious take-over where more than
>>> 10,000 Bellsouth employees lost their jobs.
>>>
>>> Such will be the demise of all who do not know and love the truth.
>>>
>>> "I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ.
>>>
>>> Amen.
>>>
>>> Marana tha

Great googley moogley!

>> Amen Brother

Semen sister!

>> Thanks for the information.
>
> Laus Deo :-)

OOO-EEE, OO-AH-AH, TING-TANG, WALLAWALLA BINGBANG
OOO-EEE, OO-AH-AH, TINGTANGWALLAWALLABINGBANG!

> Prayerfully in the awesome name of the Messiah, Jesus Christ,

With libertines and handjobs for all.

--
655321

Quentin Grady wrote:
> [Julie & bj]'ll both be missed if you stop posting here.. It goes to show that
> when people stop posting it may well be nothing personal health wise.

Could be just coincidence, but Usenet access was VERY slow
last night (I'm on Verizon). Took me less than thirty seconds
to copy my Thunderbird configuration and change the servers
from Verizon to aioe

--
Wes Groleau

Is it an on-line compliment to call someone a Net Wit ?

On Jun 15, 7:13 pm, 655321 <DipthotDipt...@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>
>
> > Nicodemus wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> jrickguard-u...@yahoo.com wrote about groups.google.com:
> >>>> Never had a problem with it.
>
> >>>> I'm using it now.
>
> >>>> For any other Verizon customers about to lose newsgroups...try it
> >>>> rather than going without ASD.
> >>> Moreover, though Verizon believes it can censor what folks post
> >>> through Google Groups under the guise of its AUP, it is far from the
> >>> truth just as Bellsouth once held a similar false belief until they
> >>> were swallowed up by at&t in an inauspicious take-over where more than
> >>> 10,000 Bellsouth employees lost their jobs.
>
> >>> Such will be the demise of all who do not know and love the truth.
>
> >>> "I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ.
>
> >>> Amen.
>
> >>> Marana tha
>
> Great googley moogley!
>
> >> Amen Brother
>
> Semen sister!
>
> >> Thanks for the information.
>
> > Laus Deo :-)
>
> OOO-EEE, OO-AH-AH, TING-TANG, WALLAWALLA BINGBANG
> OOO-EEE, OO-AH-AH, TINGTANGWALLAWALLABINGBANG!
>
> > Prayerfully in the awesome name of the Messiah, Jesus Christ,
>
> With libertines and handjobs for all.

Dominus vobiscum, et cum spiritu tuo,
Won't you eat my sleazy pancakes
Just for Saintly Alfonzo?

"Wes Groleau" <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message
news:g349qk$n6g$2@aioe.org...
> Quentin Grady wrote:
>> [Julie & bj]'ll both be missed if you stop posting here.. It goes to
>> show that
>> when people stop posting it may well be nothing personal health wise.
>
> Could be just coincidence, but Usenet access was VERY slow
> last night (I'm on Verizon). Took me less than thirty seconds
> to copy my Thunderbird configuration and change the servers
> from Verizon to aioe

Me too. Took a little longer for me to configure each NG just the way I
want it.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...218d9c9342c4e?

<><

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8be9f9918d825?

"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
news:535a54dmh79pm48uibsb9dqe1gpkpf1h5c@4ax.com...
>
> y'all do know that the current version of Agent allows you to access
> as many news servers as you want, at the same time.
>

Some people just don't want to deal with anything else.
I'm used to OE, & maybe I'm just a silly wimp but I don't want to change yet
another daily-coping-aspect of my life & get used to a whole new bunch of
how-to-do-it. Not just now, anyway. And it's not the money, it's the
nuisance.

Yes, I can (have) set up through aioe, but that's yet another thing to keep
track of. And they don't have the retention that VZ has (had) -- not a
problem for anything you've been following, but a downside if you go into
anything new.

It's no fun being told, when you don't like a food or a s/w program or a
provider or whatever, "just do it differently/cook it right/try the "better"
one" etc. IOW *change* what is known & comfortable & *works for you*.
bj
(old fogey stick-in-the-mud & grumpy today to boot)

bj wrote in message ...

>Some people just don't want to deal with anything else.
>I'm used to OE, & maybe I'm just a silly wimp but I don't want to
change yet
>another daily-coping-aspect of my life & get used to a whole new
bunch of
>how-to-do-it. Not just now, anyway. And it's not the money, it's the
>nuisance.
>
>Yes, I can (have) set up through aioe, but that's yet another thing
to keep
>track of. And they don't have the retention that VZ has (had) -- not
a
>problem for anything you've been following, but a downside if you go
into
>anything new.
>
>It's no fun being told, when you don't like a food or a s/w program
or a
>provider or whatever, "just do it differently/cook it right/try the
"better"
>one" etc. IOW *change* what is known & comfortable & *works for you*.
>bj
>(old fogey stick-in-the-mud & grumpy today to boot)


I'm in 100% agreement with you. I like OE, and I like the 4.72 version
for the newsreader. I'm not interested in a bunch of bells and
whistles...so they can just leave me be. LOL

Cheri

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love25@thetruth.com> wrote in news:b9059bf6-
7f91-47f7-9284-2b635d67d95a@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...218d9c9342c4e?
>
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8be9f9918d825?
>

Hey Andrew

Have you noticed the serpent kind have difficulty with Eternal Salvaation.

"bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:GEw5k.63831$bs3.55771@trnddc07...
> "Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
> news:535a54dmh79pm48uibsb9dqe1gpkpf1h5c@4ax.com...
>>
>> y'all do know that the current version of Agent allows you to access
>> as many news servers as you want, at the same time.
>>
>
> Some people just don't want to deal with anything else.
> I'm used to OE, & maybe I'm just a silly wimp but I don't want to change
> yet
> another daily-coping-aspect of my life & get used to a whole new bunch of
> how-to-do-it. Not just now, anyway. And it's not the money, it's the
> nuisance.
>
> Yes, I can (have) set up through aioe, but that's yet another thing to
> keep
> track of. And they don't have the retention that VZ has (had) -- not a
> problem for anything you've been following, but a downside if you go into
> anything new.
>
> It's no fun being told, when you don't like a food or a s/w program or a
> provider or whatever, "just do it differently/cook it right/try the
> "better"
> one" etc. IOW *change* what is known & comfortable & *works for you*.
> bj
> (old fogey stick-in-the-mud & grumpy today to boot)

I know what you mean. I did get aioe and have no problems with it yet, but
I tend to look at the group at least daily if not several times a day. So I
don't know how long they retain the posts.

Setting up a new newsgroup server in OE takes about 2 minutes maximum.

bj wrote:
> "Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
> news:535a54dmh79pm48uibsb9dqe1gpkpf1h5c@4ax.com...
>>
>> y'all do know that the current version of Agent allows you to access
>> as many news servers as you want, at the same time.
>>
>
> Some people just don't want to deal with anything else.
> I'm used to OE, & maybe I'm just a silly wimp but I don't want to
> change yet another daily-coping-aspect of my life & get used to a
> whole new bunch of how-to-do-it. Not just now, anyway. And it's not
> the money, it's the nuisance.
>
> Yes, I can (have) set up through aioe, but that's yet another thing
> to keep track of. And they don't have the retention that VZ has (had)
> -- not a problem for anything you've been following, but a downside
> if you go into anything new.
>
> It's no fun being told, when you don't like a food or a s/w program
> or a provider or whatever, "just do it differently/cook it right/try
> the "better" one" etc. IOW *change* what is known & comfortable &
> *works for you*. bj
> (old fogey stick-in-the-mud & grumpy today to boot)

On Jun 16, 3:10 pm, Nicodemus <Ancient-of-D...@Heaven.net> wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in news:b9059bf6-
> 7f91-47f7-9284-2b635d67d...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...218d9c9342c4e?
>
> > <><
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8be9f9918d825?
>
> Hey Andrew
>
> Have you noticed the serpent kind have difficulty with Eternal Salvaation.

There you go with the talking snakes again.

In article
<778229c1-ac1e-467b-ab25-80a0db34aeea@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
"Agent Haskell, IRS" <fatherhaskell@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jun 15, 7:13 pm, 655321 <DipthotDipt...@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Nicodemus wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >>> jrickguard-u...@yahoo.com wrote about groups.google.com:
> > >>>> Never had a problem with it.
> >
> > >>>> I'm using it now.
> >
> > >>>> For any other Verizon customers about to lose newsgroups...try it
> > >>>> rather than going without ASD.
> > >>> Moreover, though Verizon believes it can censor what folks post
> > >>> through Google Groups under the guise of its AUP, it is far from the
> > >>> truth just as Bellsouth once held a similar false belief until they
> > >>> were swallowed up by at&t in an inauspicious take-over where more than
> > >>> 10,000 Bellsouth employees lost their jobs.
> >
> > >>> Such will be the demise of all who do not know and love the truth.
> >
> > >>> "I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ.
> >
> > >>> Amen.
> >
> > >>> Marana tha
> >
> > Great googley moogley!
> >
> > >> Amen Brother
> >
> > Semen sister!
> >
> > >> Thanks for the information.
> >
> > > Laus Deo :-)
> >
> > OOO-EEE, OO-AH-AH, TING-TANG, WALLAWALLA BINGBANG
> > OOO-EEE, OO-AH-AH, TINGTANGWALLAWALLABINGBANG!
> >
> > > Prayerfully in the awesome name of the Messiah, Jesus Christ,
> >
> > With libertines and handjobs for all.
>
> Dominus vobiscum, et cum spiritu tuo,
> Won't you eat my sleazy pancakes
> Just for Saintly Alfonzo?

Yodelaay, yodelaay, wimple-wample woo,
O-fish, o-fish, o-fishy, OH!
And he went... wherever I... did a-Gooo!

--
655321
"We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi

friend Nicodemus wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...218d9c9342c4e?
> >
>
> Hey Andrew
>
> Have you noticed the serpent kind have difficulty with Eternal Salvaation.

Those who have unwisely blasphemed against the Holy Spirit know only
eternal condemnation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...ed2ca868902b1?

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic...

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...8be9f9918d825?

On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:36:54 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net>
wrote:

>"Màck©®" <IAM@OneWithTheGoddess.org> wrote in message
>news:535a54dmh79pm48uibsb9dqe1gpkpf1h5c@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> y'all do know that the current version of Agent allows you to access
>> as many news servers as you want, at the same time.
>>
>
>Some people just don't want to deal with anything else.
>I'm used to OE, & maybe I'm just a silly wimp but I don't want to change yet
>another daily-coping-aspect of my life & get used to a whole new bunch of
>how-to-do-it. Not just now, anyway. And it's not the money, it's the
>nuisance.
>
>Yes, I can (have) set up through aioe, but that's yet another thing to keep
>track of. And they don't have the retention that VZ has (had) -- not a
>problem for anything you've been following, but a downside if you go into