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02-10-2007, 07:05 PM
| | | OT - Back sort of :) G'day Campers
First off - those who have me KF won't see this so \/ to you :P
Those who haven't - long time no see!
I just spent 20 minutes trying to read the headers i've missed and after
moving .001% down the scroll bar i sacked it off and skipped to here
instead.
Last A1c was 7.1 which to say i've moved house, area and job wasn't too
bad as the time before that it was 6.4. I've been discharged by the eye
clinic as ALL signs of surgery have gone, there's been no change in over
a year now and no new signs of anything nasty lurking.
I'm on my 3rd week of doing weights now having finally got back into it
and i'm starting to feel the benefits. Lower dose of evening insulin and
generally better numbers in the evenings too. Haven't gone quite so far
as Mr Gantlet, my gym is in the garage where it's nice and cold so you
really feel the workout plus it helps build motivation
Weight, well i'm still chunky but that's never going to change, the
nurse wanted me to lose 3 stone ( aye right like she's in a position to
talk) so i've duly ignored her and concentrated on building some of my
old muscle again. My theory is that increased muscle mass will burn more
calories, if i eat less calories ( which i have been doing ) the
increased muscle will feed off what i have stored ( which is plenty ).
I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
See where we go from here then
Patrick | 
02-11-2007, 12:11 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Hey Patrick, it's great to see you again. I was wondering where you were
when I was looking at the pics yesterday. I've always enjoyed your posts
and your sense of humor, and it's really great news about your eye
surgery. :-)
Cheri
Fester wrote in message ...
>G'day Campers
>
>First off - those who have me KF won't see this so \/ to you :P
>
>Those who haven't - long time no see!
>
>I just spent 20 minutes trying to read the headers i've missed and
after
>moving .001% down the scroll bar i sacked it off and skipped to here
>instead.
>
>Last A1c was 7.1 which to say i've moved house, area and job wasn't too
>bad as the time before that it was 6.4. I've been discharged by the eye
>clinic as ALL signs of surgery have gone, there's been no change in
over
>a year now and no new signs of anything nasty lurking.
>
>I'm on my 3rd week of doing weights now having finally got back into it
>and i'm starting to feel the benefits. Lower dose of evening insulin
and
>generally better numbers in the evenings too. Haven't gone quite so far
>as Mr Gantlet, my gym is in the garage where it's nice and cold so you
>really feel the workout plus it helps build motivation 
>
>Weight, well i'm still chunky but that's never going to change, the
>nurse wanted me to lose 3 stone ( aye right like she's in a position to
>talk) so i've duly ignored her and concentrated on building some of my
>old muscle again. My theory is that increased muscle mass will burn
more
>calories, if i eat less calories ( which i have been doing ) the
>increased muscle will feed off what i have stored ( which is plenty ).
>
>I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
>
>See where we go from here then 
>
>Patrick | 
02-11-2007, 12:11 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Cheri wrote:
> Hey Patrick, it's great to see you again. I was wondering where you were
> when I was looking at the pics yesterday. I've always enjoyed your posts
> and your sense of humor, and it's really great news about your eye
> surgery. :-)
>
> Cheri
>
Hiya Cheri,
Yup ... still around and still 'blessed' with the same rotten sense of
humour. The eye thing was a major relief, now I'm back to just diabetic
- at least for the moment. I don't think i look that much different to
that photograph, still no hair, still wearing glasses although the
smoking and drinking has been cut RIGHT back.
Pic from november last year to update you http://a893.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...30f521bbfc.jpg
I hooked up with someone from your side of the pond for a night out a
couple of weeks back, I'm sorry to say that i'll be dragging my moaning
english ass over to the USA for a break in the summer, mainly for a
holiday but also for a proper look around. As you can guess, i had a
lovely night out and whilst nothing will come of it, the offer of a
guided holiday around the Northern USA in great company was too good to
pass up on.
However there are other movivations for wanting to see what life is like
over there. I am not confident that the UK NHS will be around much
longer and when i have to start paying for my health care i will have to
seriously think where I want to pay for it. By that I mean that the main
reason I'm still in England is that I get 'free' treatment, once that
benefit is removed it widens my horizons dramatically. I'm not going to
sit around and wait for this to happen!
I've done a lot of thinking the last year, some might call it morbid,
myself i call it realistic, after talking it through with family they
have pretty much come around to my way of thinking.
1. Life expectancy is around 77 for a healthy male.
2. I can see UK retirement age approaching 70 in my lifetime.
3. T1 Diabetes apparently shaves 10 years off the average life expectancy
1, 2 and maybe 3 being true, if I'm going to be working up until the day
I die AND paying for my health care in the meantime .... i have to look
at the quality of life i'll enjoy up to retirement age which will
probably be after i've carked it  So maybe the money some people put
towards pensions would be better spent by me on private health care /
insurance.
The older I get, the more I realise that we're only here once, the smell
of cheap petrol and the sound of rumbling V8 gets stronger with each
passing day  Whether it's OZ, NZ, US ... anywhere but here on the
basis a change is as good as a break, anywhere will have negatives but
I'd like to sample the different positives.
Patrick | 
02-11-2007, 12:11 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:10:23 +0000, Fester
<fester@deadspam.com> wrote:
>G'day Campers
>
>First off - those who have me KF won't see this so \/ to you :P
>
>Those who haven't - long time no see!
>
>I just spent 20 minutes trying to read the headers i've missed and after
>moving .001% down the scroll bar i sacked it off and skipped to here
>instead.
>
>Last A1c was 7.1 which to say i've moved house, area and job wasn't too
>bad as the time before that it was 6.4. I've been discharged by the eye
>clinic as ALL signs of surgery have gone, there's been no change in over
>a year now and no new signs of anything nasty lurking.
>
>I'm on my 3rd week of doing weights now having finally got back into it
>and i'm starting to feel the benefits. Lower dose of evening insulin and
>generally better numbers in the evenings too. Haven't gone quite so far
>as Mr Gantlet, my gym is in the garage where it's nice and cold so you
>really feel the workout plus it helps build motivation 
>
>Weight, well i'm still chunky but that's never going to change, the
>nurse wanted me to lose 3 stone ( aye right like she's in a position to
>talk) so i've duly ignored her and concentrated on building some of my
>old muscle again. My theory is that increased muscle mass will burn more
>calories, if i eat less calories ( which i have been doing ) the
>increased muscle will feed off what i have stored ( which is plenty ).
>
>I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
>
>See where we go from here then 
>
>Patrick
Hi Patrick
Welcome back, nice to see you again mate:-)
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
-- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Epidaurus | 
02-11-2007, 12:11 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Alan S wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:10:23 +0000, Fester
> <fester@deadspam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>G'day Campers
>>
>>First off - those who have me KF won't see this so \/ to you :P
>>
>>Those who haven't - long time no see!
>>
>>I just spent 20 minutes trying to read the headers i've missed and after
>>moving .001% down the scroll bar i sacked it off and skipped to here
>>instead.
>>
>>Last A1c was 7.1 which to say i've moved house, area and job wasn't too
>>bad as the time before that it was 6.4. I've been discharged by the eye
>>clinic as ALL signs of surgery have gone, there's been no change in over
>>a year now and no new signs of anything nasty lurking.
>>
>>I'm on my 3rd week of doing weights now having finally got back into it
>>and i'm starting to feel the benefits. Lower dose of evening insulin and
>>generally better numbers in the evenings too. Haven't gone quite so far
>>as Mr Gantlet, my gym is in the garage where it's nice and cold so you
>>really feel the workout plus it helps build motivation 
>>
>>Weight, well i'm still chunky but that's never going to change, the
>>nurse wanted me to lose 3 stone ( aye right like she's in a position to
>>talk) so i've duly ignored her and concentrated on building some of my
>>old muscle again. My theory is that increased muscle mass will burn more
>>calories, if i eat less calories ( which i have been doing ) the
>>increased muscle will feed off what i have stored ( which is plenty ).
>>
>>I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
>>
>>See where we go from here then 
>>
>>Patrick
>
>
> Hi Patrick
>
> Welcome back, nice to see you again mate:-)
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
> --
> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
> latest: Epidaurus
Howdy Alan - nice to see you here too, trust things are all good down
under? Really not been around usenet at all for quite some time, i guess
that's the way things go when things are going ok
Cheers,
Patrick | 
02-11-2007, 05:32 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Nice pic Patrick, you pretty much look the same. I'm really glad to hear
that you have cut back on the cigs (did you quit completely?) and the
booze. Have you ever been here? Or will this be your first time. Funny,
but I've always wanted to make it to England just to look around too.
Guess we always want to go where we aren't, but I hope you have a great
time here. What part of the U.S. are you visiting? Anyway, sounds like
you have a good mindset, and that's half the battle as far as I'm
concerned. :-)
Cheri
Fester wrote in message ...
>
>I hooked up with someone from your side of the pond for a night out a
>couple of weeks back, I'm sorry to say that i'll be dragging my moaning
>english ass over to the USA for a break in the summer, mainly for a
>holiday but also for a proper look around. As you can guess, i had a
>lovely night out and whilst nothing will come of it, the offer of a
>guided holiday around the Northern USA in great company was too good to
>pass up on.
>
>However there are other movivations for wanting to see what life is
like
>over there. I am not confident that the UK NHS will be around much
>longer and when i have to start paying for my health care i will have
to
>seriously think where I want to pay for it. By that I mean that the
main
>reason I'm still in England is that I get 'free' treatment, once that
>benefit is removed it widens my horizons dramatically. I'm not going to
>sit around and wait for this to happen!
>
>I've done a lot of thinking the last year, some might call it morbid,
>myself i call it realistic, after talking it through with family they
>have pretty much come around to my way of thinking.
>
>1. Life expectancy is around 77 for a healthy male.
>2. I can see UK retirement age approaching 70 in my lifetime.
>3. T1 Diabetes apparently shaves 10 years off the average life
expectancy
>
>1, 2 and maybe 3 being true, if I'm going to be working up until the
day
>I die AND paying for my health care in the meantime .... i have to look
>at the quality of life i'll enjoy up to retirement age which will
>probably be after i've carked it So maybe the money some people put
>towards pensions would be better spent by me on private health care /
>insurance.
>
>The older I get, the more I realise that we're only here once, the
smell
>of cheap petrol and the sound of rumbling V8 gets stronger with each
>passing day Whether it's OZ, NZ, US ... anywhere but here on the
>basis a change is as good as a break, anywhere will have negatives but
>I'd like to sample the different positives.
>
>Patrick | 
02-11-2007, 05:32 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:22:12 +0000, Fester
<fester@deadspam.com> wrote:
>Cheri wrote:
>> Hey Patrick, it's great to see you again. I was wondering where you were
>> when I was looking at the pics yesterday. I've always enjoyed your posts
>> and your sense of humor, and it's really great news about your eye
>> surgery. :-)
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>
>Hiya Cheri,
>
>Yup ... still around and still 'blessed' with the same rotten sense of
>humour. The eye thing was a major relief, now I'm back to just diabetic
>- at least for the moment. I don't think i look that much different to
>that photograph, still no hair, still wearing glasses although the
>smoking and drinking has been cut RIGHT back.
>
>Pic from november last year to update you 
>
>http://a893.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...30f521bbfc.jpg
>
>I hooked up with someone from your side of the pond for a night out a
>couple of weeks back, I'm sorry to say that i'll be dragging my moaning
>english ass over to the USA for a break in the summer, mainly for a
>holiday but also for a proper look around. As you can guess, i had a
>lovely night out and whilst nothing will come of it, the offer of a
>guided holiday around the Northern USA in great company was too good to
>pass up on.
>
>However there are other movivations for wanting to see what life is like
>over there. I am not confident that the UK NHS will be around much
>longer and when i have to start paying for my health care i will have to
>seriously think where I want to pay for it. By that I mean that the main
>reason I'm still in England is that I get 'free' treatment, once that
>benefit is removed it widens my horizons dramatically. I'm not going to
>sit around and wait for this to happen!
>
>I've done a lot of thinking the last year, some might call it morbid,
>myself i call it realistic, after talking it through with family they
>have pretty much come around to my way of thinking.
>
>1. Life expectancy is around 77 for a healthy male.
>2. I can see UK retirement age approaching 70 in my lifetime.
>3. T1 Diabetes apparently shaves 10 years off the average life expectancy
>
>1, 2 and maybe 3 being true, if I'm going to be working up until the day
>I die AND paying for my health care in the meantime .... i have to look
>at the quality of life i'll enjoy up to retirement age which will
>probably be after i've carked it So maybe the money some people put
>towards pensions would be better spent by me on private health care /
>insurance.
>
>The older I get, the more I realise that we're only here once, the smell
>of cheap petrol and the sound of rumbling V8 gets stronger with each
>passing day Whether it's OZ, NZ, US ... anywhere but here on the
>basis a change is as good as a break, anywhere will have negatives but
>I'd like to sample the different positives.
>
>Patrick
So, when can I expect to need to get the spare bedroom
ready?
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
-- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Epidaurus | 
02-11-2007, 05:32 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) wb Patrick
we have missed you
glad you survived the move, job change, etc ! ! !
kate
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"Fester" <fester@deadspam.com> wrote in message
news:wpGdnTxCh8bPT1DYnZ2dnUVZ8qbinZ2d@fireflyuk.ne t...
> G'day Campers
>
> First off - those who have me KF won't see this
so \/ to you :P
>
> Those who haven't - long time no see!
>
> I just spent 20 minutes trying to read the
headers i've missed and after
> moving .001% down the scroll bar i sacked it off
and skipped to here
> instead.
>
> Last A1c was 7.1 which to say i've moved house,
area and job wasn't too
> bad as the time before that it was 6.4. I've
been discharged by the eye
> clinic as ALL signs of surgery have gone,
there's been no change in over
> a year now and no new signs of anything nasty
lurking.
>
> I'm on my 3rd week of doing weights now having
finally got back into it
> and i'm starting to feel the benefits. Lower
dose of evening insulin and
> generally better numbers in the evenings too.
Haven't gone quite so far
> as Mr Gantlet, my gym is in the garage where
it's nice and cold so you
> really feel the workout plus it helps build
motivation 
>
> Weight, well i'm still chunky but that's never
going to change, the
> nurse wanted me to lose 3 stone ( aye right like
she's in a position to
> talk) so i've duly ignored her and concentrated
on building some of my
> old muscle again. My theory is that increased
muscle mass will burn more
> calories, if i eat less calories ( which i have
been doing ) the
> increased muscle will feed off what i have
stored ( which is plenty ).
>
> I see all the usual suspects are still around
......
>
> See where we go from here then 
>
> Patrick | 
02-11-2007, 05:32 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) This post not CC'd by email
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:10:23 +0000, Fester <fester@deadspam.com>
wrote:
>G'day Campers
>
>First off - those who have me KF won't see this so \/ to you :P
>
>Those who haven't - long time no see!
G'day G'day Patrick,
>I just spent 20 minutes trying to read the headers i've missed and after
>moving .001% down the scroll bar i sacked it off and skipped to here
>instead.
It gets like that.
>Last A1c was 7.1 which to say i've moved house, area and job wasn't too
>bad as the time before that it was 6.4.
So now that's done with you can concentrate on getting it back into
the sixes again.
>I've been discharged by the eye
>clinic as ALL signs of surgery have gone, there's been no change in over
>a year now and no new signs of anything nasty lurking.
That must be a tremendous relief.
>I'm on my 3rd week of doing weights now having finally got back into it
>and i'm starting to feel the benefits. Lower dose of evening insulin and
>generally better numbers in the evenings too. Haven't gone quite so far
>as Mr Gantlet, my gym is in the garage where it's nice and cold so you
>really feel the workout plus it helps build motivation
Good on you doing weights. FWIIW, working in a cooler room burns more
calories ... at least in theory.
>Weight, well i'm still chunky but that's never going to change, the
>nurse wanted me to lose 3 stone ( aye right like she's in a position to
>talk) so i've duly ignored her and concentrated on building some of my
>old muscle again.
Good idea to ignore her but not the advice. I take it she is chunky.
A remarkably well proportioned woman once shared with me her secret
for maintaining her figure. She said, "One image" "One image." I can
still hear her voice.
What she meant was one needs to have ONE IMAGE that we desire to have.
All one's emotional energy needs to go into THAT image. Too often
people have two images. A faint one of how they would like to be and
one helluva emotionally charged one of themselves in an overweight
condition. Guess which one set the regulators for the metabolism.
Picture a muscle bound you. Perhaps you have one from former days
when perhaps you played football. Enlarge that. Post it prominently.
Whatever you do. Create one image of you with muscles.
> My theory is that increased muscle mass will burn more
>calories, if i eat less calories ( which i have been doing ) the
>increased muscle will feed off what i have stored ( which is plenty ).
Well you're spot on the money. Muscle mass will burn more calories.
Put simply it is more important to build muscle mass than to reduce
weight. Hey, losing weight is good for many T2s. I don't recall
whether you are T2 or T1 though I note you are using insulin.
>I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
>
>See where we go from here then 
>
>Patrick
Best wishes,
--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin | 
02-11-2007, 03:53 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Fester <fester@deadspam.com> wrote:
> However there are other movivations for wanting to see what life is like
> over there. I am not confident that the UK NHS will be around much
> longer
However, if the UK NHS goes, the Scottish NHS certainly won't :-)
> and when i have to start paying for my health care i will have to
> seriously think where I want to pay for it. By that I mean that the main
> reason I'm still in England is that I get 'free' treatment,
Old folk get more free NHS etc. care in Scotland than in England. Same
is true in various parts of EU too, with better quality care than the
NHS offers in some cases too. It's one of the popular reasons for UK
pensioners to migrate out of the UK into the EU.
> I've done a lot of thinking the last year, some might call it morbid,
> myself i call it realistic, after talking it through with family they
> have pretty much come around to my way of thinking.
> 1. Life expectancy is around 77 for a healthy male.
But longer if you've already survived up to, say, 60.
> 2. I can see UK retirement age approaching 70 in my lifetime.
But as now you won't have to work till 70 to get your full pension
rights. What that change means is simply that if you don't want to
retire at 65 you won't *have* to.
> 3. T1 Diabetes apparently shaves 10 years off the average life expectancy.
If you're the average T1 diabetic. The average T1 diabetic doesn't
post here :-)
> 1, 2 and maybe 3 being true, if I'm going to be working up until the day
> I die
You really are getting morbid! You don't have to keep working up to
retirement age, and you won't! It's a maximum, an entitlement, not an
obligation!
> AND paying for my health care in the meantime .... i have to look
> at the quality of life i'll enjoy up to retirement age which will
> probably be after i've carked it So maybe the money some people put
> towards pensions would be better spent by me on private health care /
> insurance.
IMHO by far the best thing you can to do to improve the quality of
your life and your general health is to take more exercise. And
although you can spend a lot on gym subscriptions or home exercise
machinery, so long as just being outdoors isn't taxed it will be
possible to get plenty of exercise at pretty low cost.
> The older I get, the more I realise that we're only here once, the smell
> of cheap petrol and the sound of rumbling V8 gets stronger with each
> passing day Whether it's OZ, NZ, US ... anywhere but here on the
> basis a change is as good as a break, anywhere will have negatives but
> I'd like to sample the different positives.
If it's the rumble of cheap petrol that attracts you, IMHO you'd
better get moving soon. It won't be cheap for much longer.
--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[ http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] | 
02-11-2007, 03:54 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Fester, dont fester . I am glad to see you back.
Loretta
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terrorism. | 
02-12-2007, 12:25 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Welcome back
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"Fester" <fester@deadspam.com> wrote in message
news:wpGdnTxCh8bPT1DYnZ2dnUVZ8qbinZ2d@fireflyuk.ne t...
: G'day Campers
:
: First off - those who have me KF won't see this so \/ to you :P
:
: Those who haven't - long time no see!
:
: I just spent 20 minutes trying to read the headers i've missed and after
: moving .001% down the scroll bar i sacked it off and skipped to here
: instead.
:
: Last A1c was 7.1 which to say i've moved house, area and job wasn't too
: bad as the time before that it was 6.4. I've been discharged by the eye
: clinic as ALL signs of surgery have gone, there's been no change in over
: a year now and no new signs of anything nasty lurking.
:
: I'm on my 3rd week of doing weights now having finally got back into it
: and i'm starting to feel the benefits. Lower dose of evening insulin and
: generally better numbers in the evenings too. Haven't gone quite so far
: as Mr Gantlet, my gym is in the garage where it's nice and cold so you
: really feel the workout plus it helps build motivation 
:
: Weight, well i'm still chunky but that's never going to change, the
: nurse wanted me to lose 3 stone ( aye right like she's in a position to
: talk) so i've duly ignored her and concentrated on building some of my
: old muscle again. My theory is that increased muscle mass will burn more
: calories, if i eat less calories ( which i have been doing ) the
: increased muscle will feed off what i have stored ( which is plenty ).
:
: I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
:
: See where we go from here then 
:
: Patrick | 
02-12-2007, 10:06 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) I have a definite renewed urge to do some travelling so we'll see | 
02-12-2007, 10:06 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Chris Malcolm wrote:
Chris Malcolm wrote:
> Fester <fester@deadspam.com> wrote:
>
>
>>However there are other movivations for wanting to see what life is like
>>over there. I am not confident that the UK NHS will be around much
>>longer
>
>
> However, if the UK NHS goes, the Scottish NHS certainly won't :-)
You wait, they'll have Hadrians wall back up in no time!
>>and when i have to start paying for my health care i will have to
>>seriously think where I want to pay for it. By that I mean that the main
>>reason I'm still in England is that I get 'free' treatment,
>
>
> Old folk get more free NHS etc. care in Scotland than in England. Same
> is true in various parts of EU too, with better quality care than the
> NHS offers in some cases too. It's one of the popular reasons for UK
> pensioners to migrate out of the UK into the EU.
Aye - pensioner, that'd be nice
>>I've done a lot of thinking the last year, some might call it morbid,
>>myself i call it realistic, after talking it through with family they
>>have pretty much come around to my way of thinking.
>
>
>>1. Life expectancy is around 77 for a healthy male.
>
>
> But longer if you've already survived up to, say, 60.
Depends on how well behaved you have been - i've only been 'good' for
the last 3 years.
>>2. I can see UK retirement age approaching 70 in my lifetime.
>
>
> But as now you won't have to work till 70 to get your full pension
> rights. What that change means is simply that if you don't want to
> retire at 65 you won't *have* to.
lol - i don't forsee a comfortable retirement and if i can't be
comfortable then i'll have to work!
>>3. T1 Diabetes apparently shaves 10 years off the average life expectancy.
>
>
> If you're the average T1 diabetic. The average T1 diabetic doesn't
> post here :-)
As above, i'm only a better diabetic comparitively recently - how much
difference that will make long term is anyones guess.
>>1, 2 and maybe 3 being true, if I'm going to be working up until the day
>>I die
>
>
> You really are getting morbid! You don't have to keep working up to
> retirement age, and you won't! It's a maximum, an entitlement, not an
> obligation!
Morbid if you have no just cause, with a history of heart problems in
the family, none of the male side have seen much over 70, all have had
major strokes etc .... i'm being realistic about it, maybe even a tad
pessimistic - however there's not a pessimist out there who can't say
they've had a few nice surprises
>>AND paying for my health care in the meantime .... i have to look
>>at the quality of life i'll enjoy up to retirement age which will
>>probably be after i've carked it So maybe the money some people put
>>towards pensions would be better spent by me on private health care /
>>insurance.
>
>
> IMHO by far the best thing you can to do to improve the quality of
> your life and your general health is to take more exercise. And
> although you can spend a lot on gym subscriptions or home exercise
> machinery, so long as just being outdoors isn't taxed it will be
> possible to get plenty of exercise at pretty low cost.
After 3 weeks or so, i feel a LOT better but i'm well aware i could do
more, however rather than worrying about it .. i'm enjoying what i am
doing and happy to be able to keep it up on the basis 'something' is
better than nothing.
Cheers,
Patrick | 
02-12-2007, 10:06 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Loretta Eisenberg wrote:
> Fester, dont fester . I am glad to see you back.
>
> Loretta
>
> --
> In tribute to the United States of America and the State
> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.
>
Well since there's not been a cure released as yet, i pretty much
figured most of you would still be here - nice to see that you are | 
02-12-2007, 10:06 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Quentin Grady wrote:
> This post not CC'd by email
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:10:23 +0000, Fester <fester@deadspam.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>G'day Campers
>>
>>First off - those who have me KF won't see this so \/ to you :P
>>
>>Those who haven't - long time no see!
>
>
> G'day G'day Patrick,
>
>
>>I just spent 20 minutes trying to read the headers i've missed and after
>>moving .001% down the scroll bar i sacked it off and skipped to here
>>instead.
>
>
> It gets like that.
Must readd Chung to the poo filter.
>>Last A1c was 7.1 which to say i've moved house, area and job wasn't too
>>bad as the time before that it was 6.4.
>
>
> So now that's done with you can concentrate on getting it back into
> the sixes again.
This time it won't be as difficult - i am sure of that, chasing a one
point drop is a hell of a lot easier than a 6 point drop.
>>I've been discharged by the eye
>>clinic as ALL signs of surgery have gone, there's been no change in over
>>a year now and no new signs of anything nasty lurking.
>
>
> That must be a tremendous relief.
Now why hasn't the grey hair stopped :'(
>>I'm on my 3rd week of doing weights now having finally got back into it
>>and i'm starting to feel the benefits. Lower dose of evening insulin and
>>generally better numbers in the evenings too. Haven't gone quite so far
>>as Mr Gantlet, my gym is in the garage where it's nice and cold so you
>>really feel the workout plus it helps build motivation 
>
>
> Good on you doing weights. FWIIW, working in a cooler room burns more
> calories ... at least in theory.
Well since i'm no expert i'm going with the theory, it's handy as i said
as it tests the resolve - by the time summer comes around i'm hoping it
will be a good habit that i won't break.
>>Weight, well i'm still chunky but that's never going to change, the
>>nurse wanted me to lose 3 stone ( aye right like she's in a position to
>>talk) so i've duly ignored her and concentrated on building some of my
>>old muscle again.
>
>
> Good idea to ignore her but not the advice. I take it she is chunky.
> A remarkably well proportioned woman once shared with me her secret
> for maintaining her figure. She said, "One image" "One image." I can
> still hear her voice.
>
> What she meant was one needs to have ONE IMAGE that we desire to have.
>
> All one's emotional energy needs to go into THAT image. Too often
> people have two images. A faint one of how they would like to be and
> one helluva emotionally charged one of themselves in an overweight
> condition. Guess which one set the regulators for the metabolism.
>
> Picture a muscle bound you. Perhaps you have one from former days
> when perhaps you played football. Enlarge that. Post it prominently.
> Whatever you do. Create one image of you with muscles.
I have actually read a study report about this, 20 women, ten were told
to do this and ten were just exercising, the 10 women who were told to
visualise a fit and healthy self ALL lost more weight and became fitter
at the end of the study.
>>My theory is that increased muscle mass will burn more
>>calories, if i eat less calories ( which i have been doing ) the
>>increased muscle will feed off what i have stored ( which is plenty ).
>
>
> Well you're spot on the money. Muscle mass will burn more calories.
> Put simply it is more important to build muscle mass than to reduce
> weight. Hey, losing weight is good for many T2s. I don't recall
> whether you are T2 or T1 though I note you are using insulin.
T1 yes - on MDI with Porcine Isophane and Novorapid. Having to monkey
about with dosage but doing quite well, had a couple of low 2s but i can
tolerate that. I can quite happily sit at 3.5 these days and be
absolutely fine. I am looking to lose a bit off my stomach - that should
decrease insulin resistance a bit. I am also trying to eat correctly so
that I don't use insulin as the sole tool for combatting high blood
sugar. I am quite sure that's where the weight has come from so off it goes.
Cheers,
Patrick | 
02-12-2007, 10:06 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) TigerLily wrote:
> wb Patrick
>
> we have missed you
>
> glad you survived the move, job change, etc ! ! !
>
> kate
I know and i still have yet to make it onti IRC - soon i promise! | 
02-12-2007, 10:06 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) rk wrote:
> Welcome back
>
Thank you | 
02-12-2007, 10:06 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Cheri wrote:
> Nice pic Patrick, you pretty much look the same. I'm really glad to hear
> that you have cut back on the cigs (did you quit completely?) and the
> booze. Have you ever been here? Or will this be your first time. Funny,
> but I've always wanted to make it to England just to look around too.
> Guess we always want to go where we aren't, but I hope you have a great
> time here. What part of the U.S. are you visiting? Anyway, sounds like
> you have a good mindset, and that's half the battle as far as I'm
> concerned. :-)
>
> Cheri
>
>
>
I should be up around Cortland i think - just south of the Canadian border.
Mindset is ALL of the battle to be honest, if you're not in the mood to
take care of yourself, you won't care about learning any of the ways to
take better care of yourself.
Will be my first time in America so should be interesting.
I saw a program on television here last night about New Orleans, i can't
believe that Bush has allowed it to remain in the disgusting state it's
in - now it's fallen off the world headlines it seems to have
disappeared off Americas agenda | 
02-12-2007, 10:07 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Cortlandt is in upper New York State and is known for their apples. I
hope you get to Niagara Falls, Fester
Loretta
--
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of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism. | 
02-13-2007, 04:51 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:46:58 +0000, Fester
<fester@deadspam.com> wrote:
<snip>
>I should be up around Cortland i think - just south of the Canadian border.
>
Hi Patrick
Nice area. I drove by a little further North last year. If
you get the opportunity, do some driving; the Finger Lakes
is an interesting district (and Niagara further West) and
you can also visit both the English and French versions of
Canada if you drive due North.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
-- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Epidaurus | 
02-13-2007, 04:51 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Loretta Eisenberg wrote:
> Cortlandt is in upper New York State and is known for their apples. I
> hope you get to Niagara Falls, Fester
>
> Loretta
>
> --
> In tribute to the United States of America and the State
> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.
>
Alan & Loretta,
I visited Niagra from the canadian side some years ago, also did lake
Huron and Toronto  Was one of the most amazing sites i've seen yet -
i'm actually looking forward to a slice of normal american day to day
life, when i've been abroad before i've always gone to stay with a
friend who is local to the area as you get to see much more that way. | 
02-13-2007, 05:22 PM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) [Default] On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:10:23 +0000, Fester
<fester@deadspam.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
>
>See where we go from here then 
>
>Patrick
oh great, that's just freakin great....
really it is!
glad you're doing okay and glad you're back. ;}
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02-14-2007, 01:21 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Ma¢k wrote:
> [Default] On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:10:23 +0000, Fester
> <fester@deadspam.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>
>
>>I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
>>
>>See where we go from here then 
>>
>>Patrick
>
>
> oh great, that's just freakin great....
>
> really it is!
>
> glad you're doing okay and glad you're back. ;}
>
I couldn't leave you alone for ever you know - life's a bit easier these
days and i'm not quite so abrasive | 
02-15-2007, 09:37 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) This post not CC'd by email
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:43:41 +0000, Fester <fester@deadspam.com>
wrote:
>> What she meant was one needs to have ONE IMAGE that we desire to have.
>>
>> All one's emotional energy needs to go into THAT image. Too often
>> people have two images. A faint one of how they would like to be and
>> one helluva emotionally charged one of themselves in an overweight
>> condition. Guess which one set the regulators for the metabolism.
>>
>> Picture a muscle bound you. Perhaps you have one from former days
>> when perhaps you played football. Enlarge that. Post it prominently.
>> Whatever you do. Create one image of you with muscles.
>
>I have actually read a study report about this, 20 women, ten were told
>to do this and ten were just exercising, the 10 women who were told to
>visualise a fit and healthy self ALL lost more weight and became fitter
>at the end of the study.
G'day G'day Patrick,
Go for it,
Best wishes,
--
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New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
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02-15-2007, 09:37 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) [Default] On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:01:48 +0000, Fester
<fester@deadspam.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>Ma¢k wrote:
>> [Default] On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:10:23 +0000, Fester
>> <fester@deadspam.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>>
>>
>>>I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
>>>
>>>See where we go from here then 
>>>
>>>Patrick
>>
>>
>> oh great, that's just freakin great....
>>
>> really it is!
>>
>> glad you're doing okay and glad you're back. ;}
>>
>
>I couldn't leave you alone for ever you know - life's a bit easier these
>days and i'm not quite so abrasive
aaahhh! don't take away all our fun.
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but is morally treasonable to the American public."
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02-15-2007, 09:37 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:26:54 +1300, Quentin Grady
<quentin@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>This post not CC'd by email
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:43:41 +0000, Fester <fester@deadspam.com>
>wrote:
>
>>> What she meant was one needs to have ONE IMAGE that we desire to have.
>>>
>>> All one's emotional energy needs to go into THAT image. Too often
>>> people have two images. A faint one of how they would like to be and
>>> one helluva emotionally charged one of themselves in an overweight
>>> condition. Guess which one set the regulators for the metabolism.
>>>
>>> Picture a muscle bound you. Perhaps you have one from former days
>>> when perhaps you played football. Enlarge that. Post it prominently.
>>> Whatever you do. Create one image of you with muscles.
>>
>>I have actually read a study report about this, 20 women, ten were told
>>to do this and ten were just exercising, the 10 women who were told to
>>visualise a fit and healthy self ALL lost more weight and became fitter
>>at the end of the study.
>
>G'day G'day Patrick,
>
> Go for it,
>
>Best wishes,
For years I visualised myself as a lean, fit, handsome guy
with the body of a 25yo. Sadly, each morning I'd wake up
and see myself in a mirror and the 25yo seemed to disappear
as well...
So, eventually, I had to start trying to get the mirror to
improve and I found that required work from me. Drat. But I
still don't seem to see that 25yo around (and if I did, my
better half would shoot me:-)
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
-- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Epidaurus | 
02-16-2007, 01:51 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :)
On 15-Feb-2007, Alan S <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote:
> For years I visualised myself as a lean, fit, handsome guy
> with the body of a 25yo. Sadly, each morning I'd wake up
> and see myself in a mirror and the 25yo seemed to disappear
> as well...
Just think of yourself as a piece of marble, Alan... Michaelangelo used to
say that he visualized his masterwork already present in the block of
marble.... You are just working in reverse! Instead of chipping away at the
block, you are adding substance to it ;-) The 25 year old guy is still in
there, somewhere ....
Will, T2
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02-16-2007, 01:51 AM
| | | Re: OT - Back sort of :) Ma¢k wrote:
> [Default] On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:01:48 +0000, Fester
> <fester@deadspam.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>
>
>>Ma¢k wrote:
>>
>>>[Default] On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:10:23 +0000, Fester
>>><fester@deadspam.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I see all the usual suspects are still around .....
>>>>
>>>>See where we go from here then 
>>>>
>>>>Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>oh great, that's just freakin great....
>>>
>>>really it is!
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