OT: Does this apply to anyone you know?

[Robert Miles]

Being 'Born-Again' Linked to More Brain Atrophy: Study
http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html

[Julie Bove]

"Robert Miles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:50079cd4$0$2002$[email protected]..
> Being 'Born-Again' Linked to More Brain Atrophy: Study
> http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html

Thankfully, no.

[GysdeJongh]

Robert Miles wrote:
> Being a "Foot Toilet Flushers" (FTF) Linked to More Brain Atrophy: Study
> http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html

Older adults who say they flush the toilet by foot are more likely to have a
greater decrease in size of the hippocampus, the part of the brain critical
to learning and memory, new research finds.

According to the study, people who said they were FTF , Protestant or
Catholic, or conversely, those who had no religious affiliation, had more
hippocampal shrinkage (or "atrophy") compared to people who identified
themselves as Protestants, but not born-again.

The study is published online in PLoS ONE and is not an association. Normal
older adults whoose hippocampus was compressed became fool blown FTF's. Five
days after decompression the volunteers revert to normal social behaviour.

Duh !
Gys

[Ozgirl]

What an absolutely bizarre study, lol. My born again brother is still
sharp as a tack at 73. My deceased uncle, a Baptist all his life, lost
it relatively early in life. If anyone was ever in doubt the comment "I
should know, I AM John the Baptist" (yelled at his sister who converted
to Catholicism before her marriage to a Catholic) was enough to clinch
it. Was a big family do at Nanna's house, you could have heard a pin
drop after that little clanger.

"Robert Miles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:50079cd4$0$2002$[email protected]..
> Being 'Born-Again' Linked to More Brain Atrophy: Study
> http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html

[Ozgirl]

"GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
news:5007bd66$0$28599$[email protected] .com...
> Robert Miles wrote:
>> Being a "Foot Toilet Flushers" (FTF) Linked to More Brain Atrophy:
>> Study
>> http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html
>
> Older adults who say they flush the toilet by foot are more likely to
> have a greater decrease in size of the hippocampus, the part of the
> brain critical to learning and memory, new research finds.
>
> According to the study, people who said they were FTF , Protestant or
> Catholic, or conversely, those who had no religious affiliation, had
> more hippocampal shrinkage (or "atrophy") compared to people who
> identified themselves as Protestants, but not born-again.
>
> The study is published online in PLoS ONE and is not an association.
> Normal older adults whoose hippocampus was compressed became fool
> blown FTF's. Five days after decompression the volunteers revert to
> normal social behaviour.
>
> Duh !
> Gys

Should one feel guilt if the next person to flush the toilet doesn't
realise the FTF still had a trace of dog poo on their shoe, after
presumably wiping the shoe on grass? Of course the FTH could have
flushed while barefoot...

Another thought - here we have a roll of dunny paper hanging down from
the roll. Do we hold on to that dangly bit of paper (that has been
touched by the previous toilet user with a hand presumably teeming with
trillions of germs, that are actually seen with the naked eye)? If we
choose to hold it, do we have gloves on? Do we dispose of a few metres
of the roll to ensure no part of our butt comes in contact with a highly
contaminated piece of paper? What's the protocol for toilet paper use
outside our own home?

[GysdeJongh]

Ozgirl wrote:
> "GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
> news:5007bd66$0$28599$[email protected] .com...
>> Robert Miles wrote:
>>> Being a "Foot Toilet Flushers" (FTF) Linked to More Brain Atrophy:
>>> Study
>>> http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html
>>
>> Older adults who say they flush the toilet by foot are more likely to
>> have a greater decrease in size of the hippocampus, the part of the
>> brain critical to learning and memory, new research finds.
>>
>> According to the study, people who said they were FTF , Protestant or
>> Catholic, or conversely, those who had no religious affiliation, had
>> more hippocampal shrinkage (or "atrophy") compared to people who
>> identified themselves as Protestants, but not born-again.
>>
>> The study is published online in PLoS ONE and is not an association.
>> Normal older adults whoose hippocampus was compressed became fool
>> blown FTF's. Five days after decompression the volunteers revert to
>> normal social behaviour.
>>
>> Duh !
>> Gys
>
> Should one feel guilt if the next person to flush the toilet doesn't
> realise the FTF still had a trace of dog poo on their shoe, after
> presumably wiping the shoe on grass? Of course the FTH could have
> flushed while barefoot...
>
> Another thought - here we have a roll of dunny paper hanging down from
> the roll. Do we hold on to that dangly bit of paper (that has been
> touched by the previous toilet user with a hand presumably teeming
> with trillions of germs, that are actually seen with the naked eye)?
> If we choose to hold it, do we have gloves on? Do we dispose of a few
> metres of the roll to ensure no part of our butt comes in contact
> with a highly contaminated piece of paper? What's the protocol for
> toilet paper use outside our own home?



Hi Ozgirl

Dog poo, especially on shoes, does not come in *traces* over here. We hold
on to that dangly bit of paper (that has been touched by the previous toilet
user with a hand presumably teeming with trillions of germs, that are
actually seen with the naked eye). With our teeth. Afterwards we brush our
teeth. Problem solved.

[GysdeJongh]

Ozgirl wrote:
> What an absolutely bizarre study, lol. My born again brother is still
> sharp as a tack at 73. My deceased uncle, a Baptist all his life, lost
> it relatively early in life. If anyone was ever in doubt the comment
> "I should know, I AM John the Baptist" (yelled at his sister who
> converted to Catholicism before her marriage to a Catholic) was
> enough to clinch it. Was a big family do at Nanna's house, you could
> have heard a pin drop after that little clanger.
>
> "Robert Miles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:50079cd4$0$2002$[email protected]..
>> Being 'Born-Again' Linked to More Brain Atrophy: Study
>> http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html


The problem is you think you are Ozgirl and that there is only 1 Ozgirl :
"The Ozgirl"

However evolution did not reinvent the brain multiple times, it just build
new structures on top of the primitive ones. The article is not about the
cortex, the consious brain. It is about the Hippocampus an old brain
structure. The Hippocampus does a lot of this but you are not aware of it.


<http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0017006>

Religious Factors and Hippocampal Atrophy in Late Life
Amy D. Owen, R. David Hayward, Harold G. Koenig, David C. Steffens, Martha
E. Payne

Quote :
"Despite a growing interest in the ways spiritual beliefs and practices are
reflected in brain activity, there have been relatively few studies using
neuroimaging data to assess potential relationships between religious
factors and structural neuroanatomy. This study examined prospective
relationships between religious factors and hippocampal volume change using
high-resolution MRI data of a sample of 268 older adults.

The findings of this study indicate that hippocampal atrophy in late life
may be uniquely influenced by certain types of religious factors.

Associations found in the current study between life-changing religious
experiences (but not frequency of religious practices) and hippocampal
atrophy....."
Un-Quote


So this was an association and the direction is thus still unknown.
Life-changing Religious Experience at the begin of the study had a p less
than 0.001 and it was the only significant factor at this level. However a
new, during the study, Life-changing Religious Experience had *NO*
*Significant* effect.

For your comfort : Baptism was not mentioned, people who were "Born again"
at the beginning of the study had a just significant association, but not if
they became "Born again" during the study. Otoh "none" (atheist ?) had the
same weak association as the "Born again" at the beginning of the study ...


Could it be the otherway around ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocampus
The hippocampus is a major component of the brains of humans and other
vertebrates. It belongs to the limbic system and plays important roles in
the consolidation of information from short-term memory to long-term memory.

Deja Vu and religeous experiences have been explained by malfuctioning short
time memory : you forget what you have seen a second ago and think it was a
year ago. Very spectacular. Might do all kind of things with your future
beliefs.

In that case a Life-changing Religious Experience might be a marker for a
malfunctioning (shrinking) hippocampus later in life.

Don't forget to read the other comments at Plos One under the comment tab of
the article page (see the link above)

hth
Gys

[Julie Bove]

"GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
news:5007e686$0$28678$[email protected] .com...
> Ozgirl wrote:
>> "GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:5007bd66$0$28599$[email protected] .com...
>>> Robert Miles wrote:
>>>> Being a "Foot Toilet Flushers" (FTF) Linked to More Brain Atrophy:
>>>> Study
>>>> http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html
>>>
>>> Older adults who say they flush the toilet by foot are more likely to
>>> have a greater decrease in size of the hippocampus, the part of the
>>> brain critical to learning and memory, new research finds.
>>>
>>> According to the study, people who said they were FTF , Protestant or
>>> Catholic, or conversely, those who had no religious affiliation, had
>>> more hippocampal shrinkage (or "atrophy") compared to people who
>>> identified themselves as Protestants, but not born-again.
>>>
>>> The study is published online in PLoS ONE and is not an association.
>>> Normal older adults whoose hippocampus was compressed became fool
>>> blown FTF's. Five days after decompression the volunteers revert to
>>> normal social behaviour.
>>>
>>> Duh !
>>> Gys
>>
>> Should one feel guilt if the next person to flush the toilet doesn't
>> realise the FTF still had a trace of dog poo on their shoe, after
>> presumably wiping the shoe on grass? Of course the FTH could have
>> flushed while barefoot...
>>
>> Another thought - here we have a roll of dunny paper hanging down from
>> the roll. Do we hold on to that dangly bit of paper (that has been
>> touched by the previous toilet user with a hand presumably teeming
>> with trillions of germs, that are actually seen with the naked eye)?
>> If we choose to hold it, do we have gloves on? Do we dispose of a few
>> metres of the roll to ensure no part of our butt comes in contact
>> with a highly contaminated piece of paper? What's the protocol for
>> toilet paper use outside our own home?
>
>
>
> Hi Ozgirl
>
> Dog poo, especially on shoes, does not come in *traces* over here. We
> hold on to that dangly bit of paper (that has been touched by the previous
> toilet user with a hand presumably teeming with trillions of germs, that
> are actually seen with the naked eye). With our teeth. Afterwards we brush
> our teeth. Problem solved.

OMG! I had to go back to the tire store for the third time today. Long
story short they finally found a nail in my van's tire which apparently was
causing a slow leak. They were super busy so I availed myself of their free
popcorn and drink. They offer not only coffee but cold drinks. And no, it
didn't affect my BG. I even had a fruit snack about two hours after that
and my BG was fine before dinner.

Anyway... While I was waiting, a lady came in with a little white dog. I
wondered if the dog was allowed in there and then I noticed something odd
about the lady's shoe. She had on white athletic shoes and it appeared that
she had stepped right in a turd. It was smeared all up over the inside of
her instep. Ew.

[Ozgirl]

"Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:juaojr$ooi$[email protected]..
>
> "GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
> news:5007e686$0$28678$[email protected] .com...
>> Ozgirl wrote:
>>> "GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:5007bd66$0$28599$[email protected] .com...
>>>> Robert Miles wrote:
>>>>> Being a "Foot Toilet Flushers" (FTF) Linked to More Brain Atrophy:
>>>>> Study
>>>>> http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html
>>>>
>>>> Older adults who say they flush the toilet by foot are more likely
>>>> to
>>>> have a greater decrease in size of the hippocampus, the part of the
>>>> brain critical to learning and memory, new research finds.
>>>>
>>>> According to the study, people who said they were FTF , Protestant
>>>> or
>>>> Catholic, or conversely, those who had no religious affiliation,
>>>> had
>>>> more hippocampal shrinkage (or "atrophy") compared to people who
>>>> identified themselves as Protestants, but not born-again.
>>>>
>>>> The study is published online in PLoS ONE and is not an
>>>> association.
>>>> Normal older adults whoose hippocampus was compressed became fool
>>>> blown FTF's. Five days after decompression the volunteers revert to
>>>> normal social behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> Duh !
>>>> Gys
>>>
>>> Should one feel guilt if the next person to flush the toilet doesn't
>>> realise the FTF still had a trace of dog poo on their shoe, after
>>> presumably wiping the shoe on grass? Of course the FTH could have
>>> flushed while barefoot...
>>>
>>> Another thought - here we have a roll of dunny paper hanging down
>>> from
>>> the roll. Do we hold on to that dangly bit of paper (that has been
>>> touched by the previous toilet user with a hand presumably teeming
>>> with trillions of germs, that are actually seen with the naked eye)?
>>> If we choose to hold it, do we have gloves on? Do we dispose of a
>>> few
>>> metres of the roll to ensure no part of our butt comes in contact
>>> with a highly contaminated piece of paper? What's the protocol for
>>> toilet paper use outside our own home?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ozgirl
>>
>> Dog poo, especially on shoes, does not come in *traces* over here.
>> We hold on to that dangly bit of paper (that has been touched by the
>> previous toilet user with a hand presumably teeming with trillions of
>> germs, that are actually seen with the naked eye). With our teeth.
>> Afterwards we brush our teeth. Problem solved.
>
> OMG! I had to go back to the tire store for the third time today.
> Long story short they finally found a nail in my van's tire which
> apparently was causing a slow leak. They were super busy so I availed
> myself of their free popcorn and drink. They offer not only coffee
> but cold drinks. And no, it didn't affect my BG. I even had a fruit
> snack about two hours after that and my BG was fine before dinner.
>
> Anyway... While I was waiting, a lady came in with a little white
> dog. I wondered if the dog was allowed in there and then I noticed
> something odd about the lady's shoe. She had on white athletic shoes
> and it appeared that she had stepped right in a turd. It was smeared
> all up over the inside of her instep. Ew.

maybe it was karma, perhaps her doggie pooped and she didn't pick it up.
Have you seen that Russian video clip on the news, where a woman in a
convertible didn't scoop the poop?

[Julie Bove]

"Ozgirl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
>
>
> "Julie Bove" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:juaojr$ooi$[email protected]..
>>
>> "GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:5007e686$0$28678$[email protected] .com...
>>> Ozgirl wrote:
>>>> "GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
>>>> news:5007bd66$0$28599$[email protected] .com...
>>>>> Robert Miles wrote:
>>>>>> Being a "Foot Toilet Flushers" (FTF) Linked to More Brain Atrophy:
>>>>>> Study
>>>>>> http://www.philly.com/philly/health/132456883.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Older adults who say they flush the toilet by foot are more likely to
>>>>> have a greater decrease in size of the hippocampus, the part of the
>>>>> brain critical to learning and memory, new research finds.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the study, people who said they were FTF , Protestant or
>>>>> Catholic, or conversely, those who had no religious affiliation, had
>>>>> more hippocampal shrinkage (or "atrophy") compared to people who
>>>>> identified themselves as Protestants, but not born-again.
>>>>>
>>>>> The study is published online in PLoS ONE and is not an association.
>>>>> Normal older adults whoose hippocampus was compressed became fool
>>>>> blown FTF's. Five days after decompression the volunteers revert to
>>>>> normal social behaviour.
>>>>>
>>>>> Duh !
>>>>> Gys
>>>>
>>>> Should one feel guilt if the next person to flush the toilet doesn't
>>>> realise the FTF still had a trace of dog poo on their shoe, after
>>>> presumably wiping the shoe on grass? Of course the FTH could have
>>>> flushed while barefoot...
>>>>
>>>> Another thought - here we have a roll of dunny paper hanging down from
>>>> the roll. Do we hold on to that dangly bit of paper (that has been
>>>> touched by the previous toilet user with a hand presumably teeming
>>>> with trillions of germs, that are actually seen with the naked eye)?
>>>> If we choose to hold it, do we have gloves on? Do we dispose of a few
>>>> metres of the roll to ensure no part of our butt comes in contact
>>>> with a highly contaminated piece of paper? What's the protocol for
>>>> toilet paper use outside our own home?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ozgirl
>>>
>>> Dog poo, especially on shoes, does not come in *traces* over here. We
>>> hold on to that dangly bit of paper (that has been touched by the
>>> previous toilet user with a hand presumably teeming with trillions of
>>> germs, that are actually seen with the naked eye). With our teeth.
>>> Afterwards we brush our teeth. Problem solved.
>>
>> OMG! I had to go back to the tire store for the third time today. Long
>> story short they finally found a nail in my van's tire which apparently
>> was causing a slow leak. They were super busy so I availed myself of
>> their free popcorn and drink. They offer not only coffee but cold
>> drinks. And no, it didn't affect my BG. I even had a fruit snack about
>> two hours after that and my BG was fine before dinner.
>>
>> Anyway... While I was waiting, a lady came in with a little white dog.
>> I wondered if the dog was allowed in there and then I noticed something
>> odd about the lady's shoe. She had on white athletic shoes and it
>> appeared that she had stepped right in a turd. It was smeared all up
>> over the inside of her instep. Ew.
>
> maybe it was karma, perhaps her doggie pooped and she didn't pick it up.
> Have you seen that Russian video clip on the news, where a woman in a
> convertible didn't scoop the poop?

No. I haven't seen that. But at various Petsmart stores (pets and
supplies) they have numerous stands outside and some even inside with bags
for scooping the poop. Invariably there will be a pile of poop right in
front of the stand.

And once, I was very stupid. They were having a big cat adoption and we
went to look. Angela wanted to go back and see them again. Just as we
approached, a clerk flung herself in front of us and began mopping at a
puddle on the floor with some paper towels. I said out loud, "Hmmm... We
were just here and that water wasn't there then! Are people even allowed to
drink water in here?" The clerks eye's got big and she looked at me like I
was an idiot. And then I got it.

[Wes Groleau]

On 07-20-2012 00:59, Julie Bove wrote:
> noticed something odd
> about the lady's shoe. She had on white athletic shoes and it appeared that
> she had stepped right in a

TMI

--
Wes Groleau

“Lewis's case for the existence of God is fallacious.�
"You mean like circular reasoning?�
“He believes in God. Therefore, he's fallacious."

[Happy Oyster]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:01:50 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) shares that GOD is both
>able and willing to prevent evil by helping us successfully

BULL**** AND LIES! If there is a go, the he does not need a criminal
like Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung to tell the world his very own words.

Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung abuses the name of god (whichever, whatever).
He is an impost and a plain criminal. Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung is
guilty for thr death of Markea Berry.


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[[email protected] rade]

On Aug 25, 7:43*pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> "Is GOD willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not
> omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He
> both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor
> willing? Then why call Him GOD?" -- Epicurus (BC 341-270)
>
> This killer

FTFY.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hungry-doct...7#.UDllH6OWzRU

-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain

Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://www.rationalist.com.au/archiv...l_ar73_web.pdf

[Happy Oyster]

On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 16:43:56 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Is GOD willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not
>omnipotent.

Oh. Markea Berry is dead. God did not prevent her death. God did not
crush the skull of Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung who is responsible of her
death. So then there is no god. So then all the crap Satan Andrew Ben
Hua Chung babbles all day long all these years is nothing but a fake.
Yes, that we already guessed. And the more than 260 names of persons who
Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung wants to be killed, they will not be killed
by god. But by who?

Markea Berry is dead. Who will be netxt?

On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 10:57:24 -0700 (PDT), Andre Langolier
<[email protected]> wrote:

> When I typed the words "Dr. Chung Starvation" into Google, this is
>what came up:
>
>Ebony Berry, Mom who starved teen daughter Markea to death, linked to
>'hunger' cure Doc (Video)
>http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1103172
>
>Update: Dr. Andrew Chung admits he spoke with starved teen's mom ...
>http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJE0OPIR81HG0GU23
>
>DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER
>http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479
>
>"Being Hungry is Wonderful": Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as
>Part of a “Hunger Cult”
>http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/0...rt-of-a-cult/#
>
>Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
>Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter
>http://entertainment.topnewstoday.or...ticle/2644930/
>
>The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
>‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death’
>http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-d.../#.T_HazM0pCh0
>
>Sir Andre Langolier, GCH


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[Virgil]

In article
<[email protected]>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Is GOD willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not
> omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He
> both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor
> willing? Then why call Him GOD?" -- Epicurus (BC 341-270)

Good questions to which no theist has a respectable answer.
--

[Hunger is starvation]

Dr. John F. MacArthur, a Holy Spirit filled Bible teacher, who is
considered by mainstream Christianity
as one of the best theologians of all time, explains why someone's
name *will never* be
blotted from the Book of Life (Rev 3:5), as Dr. Brian G. Kelley has
categorically stated all along:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h77BDAgzEAs

"Andrew B. Chung, MD PhD" wrote:
> someone whose name's been blotted (Deu29:20) from GOD's Book (Deu
> 32:33) wrote:
>
> someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book(Rev20:15)
> wrote:
>
> one whose name's been blotted(Mt25:41&Ps69:28) from His Book(Rev20:15)
> wrote:

For someone who claims Holy Spirit discernment, Andrew Chung sure
changes gears a lot.
And his changing gears is based on the input of people, not the Holy
Spirit, as documented below:

On Nov 13, 2:30 am est, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disci...@T3WiJ.com>
wrote:
> one

Once again, the physician who claims to have an active clinic, is up
at 2:30 am spamming on Usenet :-)

> whose name's been blotted (Mt25:41

“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you
cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his
angels"

Once again, these names were never written in the Book of Life (Rev
3:5) to begin with as is the case with Mt 25:41 and corresponding
verse, Rev 20:15

Now why did Chung switch from Rev 3:5...

> someone whose name has been blotted (Rev3:5)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...b7684e99305945

....To Mt. 25:41? Because Rev 3:5 didn't qualify for what he's trying
to claim. And neither does Mt. 25:41 qualify for what he's trying to
claim. Thus proving Chung's lack of Holy Spirit discernment.

> someone whose name has been blotted (Rev3:5)

"I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life" Rev 3:5

What has failed to discern, is that God is obviously promising that
he will *not* blot out a name from the Book of Life once it's written
there :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h77BDAgzEAs

> &Ps69:28

That one also had to be given to Chung by someone else who didn't get
it right; still no Holy Spirit discernment from Chung.

PS 69:28a is Book 1: Let them be blotted out of the book of the living
PS 69:28b is, Book 2: and not be written with the righteous [in the
Lamb's Book of Life].

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...7cf18d9ecd8911

> from His Book(Rev20:15)

"And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the
lake of fire." Rev 20:15

Obviously those names were never written in the Book of Life to begin
with.

Chung’s previous lack of Holy Spirit discernment failed attempt at
this was:

> someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)
> of Life.

Mosaic Covenant - Covenant in Moab: Only applicable to Israel under
the Old Covenant.

> from His Book(Deu32:33)

"Their wine is the poison of serpents,
And the cruel venom of cobras."
Nether the verse nor the entire chapter (The Song of Moses) is
applicable.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.m...274bde5f71cbcb

Why does Andrew B. Chung persist staying on this course of folly? The
same reason why he’s stayed on every course of folly he’s been on.
Because of his apparent lack of discernment and his pride.

Which is the same reason why he got fired:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.u...6e3e39ae96abb4

Which is the same reason why he was evicted from a church:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.u...6af5851a414ee3

Which is the same reason why he was arrested:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...c54ad99711bfc3

[Hunger is starvation]

Everything Andrew B. Chung writes regarding the Markea Berry case 'can
and will be held against him' - Miranda warning.
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" seeming to have gone completely insane
wrote:

> Markea's ghost will shut that accursed soul up along
> with shutting up all the other accursed souls as she destroys their
> families one by one per command. Vengeance is Mine. I shall
> avenge. -- Dr. Crackpot posing as God.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...bc3a51527114d2

Sadly, more stuff for people to forward as they see fit to:

Sheriff Neil Warren, Cobb County Sheriff's Office neil.warren @
cobbcounty.org

And to Jaye Watson, from 11 Alive News, jwatson @ 11alive.com.

Cobb County, GA District Attorney
http://www.cobbda.com/

FBI - Atlanta
http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/

Alabama Board of Medical Examiners and Medical Licensure Commission of
Alabama.
http://www.albme.org/complaint.html

Central State Hospital - Georgia's hospital for the mentally ill.
http://www.centralstatehospital.org/

--
"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-d.../#.T_HazM0pCh0

"Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/0...rt-of-a-cult/#

"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.or...ticle/2644930/

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-d.../#.T_HazM0pCh0

[Hunger is starvation]

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> someone whose name has been blotted from His Book
>
> an eternally accursed soul

"Judge not, that you be not judged" Matthew 7:1

> May [Andrew's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation

"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in
whatever you judge another you condemn yourself" Romans 2:1

> [Andrew's version of] GOD has sent a daughter's ghost to exact vengeance
> on those who
> falsely accuse her mom and her defenders.

"For a good tree does not bear bad fruit" Matthew 7:18

> These accusers should get funeral insurance for their families as they
> start witnessing their members cut down one-by-one.

"Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown
into the fire." Luke 3:9

[Virgil]

In article
<[email protected]>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Is GOD willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not
> omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He
> both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor
> willing? Then why call Him GOD?" -- Epicurus (BC 341-270)


I think he's got it!
--

[Besque]

On 11/25/2012 9:28 PM, Virgil wrote:
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Is GOD willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not
>> omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He
>> both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor
>> willing? Then why call Him GOD?" -- Epicurus (BC 341-270)
>
> I think he's got it!
>
I don't. There would have to be a trade off. Lets say God took total
control of everything our thoughts; our words and our actions, would
that be preferable to our freedom. That's the trade-off!

[Besque]

> On 11/25/2012 9:28 PM, Virgil wrote:
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Is GOD willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not
>> omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He
>> both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor
>> willing? Then why call Him GOD?" -- Epicurus (BC 341-270)
>
> I think he's got it!
>
I don't. There would have to be a trade off. Lets say God took total
control of everything: our thoughts; our words and our actions, would
that be preferable to our freedom. That would be the trade-off!

[God@doesn'tcare.org]

On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:08:32 -0500, Besque <[email protected]> wrote:

>> On 11/25/2012 9:28 PM, Virgil wrote:
>> In article
>> <[email protected]>,
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "Is GOD willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not
>>> omnipotent. Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent. Is He
>>> both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is He neither able nor
>>> willing? Then why call Him GOD?" -- Epicurus (BC 341-270)
>>
>> I think he's got it!
>>
> I don't. There would have to be a trade off. Lets say God took total
> control of everything: our thoughts; our words and our actions, would
> that be preferable to our freedom. That would be the trade-off!
>
>


If he did that, would you even care? Or be able to care?

[Hunger is fatal]

pl...@you.com wrote:

>
> Look at Chung, he encouraged a mother to murder her child and now
> gloats over the murder.
>

Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> wrote:

> Duke wrote:
>
> > Markea Berry isn't eating anything today because of you.
>
> So it is. she is dead. And Satan Andrew Ben Hua Chung ****s on her grave.

By telling everyone how Markea Blakely-Berry is going murder people's
family members as a ghost <sigh>.

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in vain:

> May [Chung's version of] GOD ever so severely curse you and all around
> you to the Nth generation
>
> [Chung's version of] GOD has sent a daughter's ghost to exact vengeance on those who
> falsely accuse her mom and her defenders.
>
> These accusers should get funeral insurance for their families as they
> start witnessing their members cut down one-by-one.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.m...2992b2eebc1081

Reported as forwarded by several people to investigators in the Markea
Berry case such as:

Sheriff Neil Warren, Cobb County Sheriff's Office neil.warren @
cobbcounty.org

And to Jaye Watson, from 11 Alive News, jwatson @ 11alive.com.

Cobb County, GA District Attorney
http://www.cobbda.com/

Also for consideration:

FBI - Atlanta
http://www.fbi.gov/atlanta/

Alabama Board of Medical Examiners and Medical Licensure Commission of
Alabama.
http://www.albme.org/complaint.html

Central State Hospital - Georgia's hospital for the mentally ill.
http://www.centralstatehospital.org/


"Anyone wanting to ensure this cracked nut doesn't get someone else
killed should do the same."

11 Alive News interview with Andrew B. Chung regarding the case:
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/st...storyid=251415

Headlines regarding Markea Berry case:

"DR ANDREW CHUNG AND EBONY BERRY ACCUSED OF STARVING DAUGHTER"
http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=62125479

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-d.../#.T_HazM0pCh0

"Mother Who Allegedly Starved Daughter as Part of a “Hunger Cult”
http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/0...rt-of-a-cult/#

"Dr Andrew Chung advocates 'wonderfully hungry' and is friends with
Ebony Berry, accused of starving daughter"
http://entertainment.topnewstoday.or...ticle/2644930/

"The doctor behind the ‘hunger cult’ that obsessed a mother who
‘starved her 16-year-old daughter to death"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-d.../#.T_HazM0pCh0

[Ken]

http://www.abim.org/services/physver.aspx

Dr. Andrew Ben-hua Chung
Certification Area
Certification Status
Certification History


Internal Medicine
Not Certified
Certified 08/20/1997, Certificate valid through 12/31/2007


Cardiovascular Disease
Not Certified
Certified 11/06/2002, Certificate valid through 12/31/2012


Quacks don't need certifications or medical licenses


On Feb 6, 5:56 am, DocBGK <blackstu...@gmail.com> wrote:
When the news journalist investigated Andy and found out his clinic
had closed down a long time ago... Andy claimed that he had a secret
hidden clinic that operates strictly on a referral basis.


(A legend in his own mind)

Yet, Andy can not name a single physician who's referred a patient
of his/hers to Andy within the last two years.

(No doubt it's because no legitimate physcian wants to risk his or
her medical license or to be included in a malpractice lawsuit)

[Reg Griswold]

Cancer - the forbidden cures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&fe...&v=gWLrfNJICeM

http://tinyurl.com/6lnvqut
Start of video
20,000 people die of cancer every day [worldwide?]
Translates to 8 million deaths every year, 500,000 of which are
americans
At the beginning of the last century (1900), 1 person out of 20 would
get cancer
In the 1940s it was 1 out 16
In the 1970s 1 person out of 10
Today (2000) 1 person out of 3 gets cancer in the course of their
life.
Over 1 million americans are diagnosed with a new cancer every year

reg

[Chopchinski]

On 2/9/2013 8:42 AM, Reg Griswold aka carole hubbard wrote:
> Cancer - the forbidden cures

More disinformation without legitimate proof from the Lunatic from Down
Under (LfDU) aka carole hubbard.

carole hubbard is a cow and purveyor of internet disinformation.

http://resources3.news.com.au/images...62699-cows.jpg

http://www.audiomicro.com/tracks/dialog/113511

http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/15...e_hubbard.html

http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/zionism.htm

http://www.finanz-gruppen.de/thread/...-WILL-DIE.html

http://www.anosvic.org.au/ANOS_Vic_Contacts.html

[Bob Officer]

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 05:42:28 -0800 (PST), in misc.health.alternative,
Reg Griswold carole's more idiotic sock<[email protected]> wrote:

>Cancer - the forbidden cures
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&fe...&v=gWLrfNJICeM
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6lnvqut
>Start of video
>20,000 people die of cancer every day [worldwide?]
>Translates to 8 million deaths every year, 500,000 of which are
>americans
>At the beginning of the last century (1900), 1 person out of 20 would
>get cancer
>In the 1940s it was 1 out 16
>In the 1970s 1 person out of 10
>Today (2000) 1 person out of 3 gets cancer in the course of their
>life.
>Over 1 million americans are diagnosed with a new cancer every year
>
>reg

What was the over all life expectancy in 1900, 1940, 1970 and in the
year 2000.

Logic shows as more people die at greater and greater years, their
are more people which have cancer. "Cancer" is a class of diseases,
not just one. It is usually considered an exposure disease which
causes a gross replication failure.


--
Bob Officer
"Whoops .... now where did I put that other braincell?
It make it very hard to work things out.

Oh, I'll check up my arse ...get back to ya."
carole hubbard in Message-ID: <[email protected]>