PING: Tiger Lily (Kate) re: hypothyroidism

Hi Kate, I really didn't want to post another message to the troll
thread that's currently going, but you said something interesting that
I'd like to discuss further.

> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>
> is that good enough for you?

I also have hypothyroidism and had it way before I was Dx'd T2. I
take .125 mg synthroid and have taken this dose for almost 9 years
now. Why wouldn't your doc want to put you on this? Although, I'm not
on any diabetes meds now, I wasn't aware there would be any conflict
with a simple hormone replacement.

John C.

On Apr 15, 8:27*am, John <jcarne...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Kate, I really didn't want to post another message to the troll
> thread that's currently going, but you said something interesting that
> I'd like to discuss further.
>
> > untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
> > thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>
> > is that good enough for you?
>
> I also have hypothyroidism and had it way before I was Dx'd T2. I
> take .125 mg synthroid and have taken this dose for almost 9 years
> now. Why wouldn't your doc want to put you on this? Although, I'm not
> on any diabetes meds now, I wasn't aware there would be any conflict
> with a simple hormone replacement.

Docs genuinely have a concern about overloading patients with too many
drugs. Not only is there a burden on the patient but there's always a
risk of some interaction between drugs.

I agree, a pil of synthroid in the morning isn't a big deal (I've been
doing it for like 20 years now) but it adds up, and the fact that the
synthroid is only most effective when taken on an empty stomach and
without any food following it is sometimes at odds with when I need to
eat to take care of my bg's.

Some have reported that synthroid raises their bg's.

I remember when I was a kid, and neighbors and teachers were genuinely
concerned that with insulin and two shots a day and (gasp!) this
newfangled home bg testing that I was being over-medicated.

Heck, today I open up the newspaper and the headline in the health
page is the "problem" of overmedicating kids.

Tim.

On Apr 15, 9:09*am, Tim Shoppa <sho...@trailing-edge.com> wrote:
> On Apr 15, 8:27*am, John <jcarne...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Kate, I really didn't want to post another message to the troll
> > thread that's currently going, but you said something interesting that
> > I'd like to discuss further.
>
> > > untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
> > > thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>
> > > is that good enough for you?
>
> > I also have hypothyroidism and had it way before I was Dx'd T2. I
> > take .125 mg synthroid and have taken this dose for almost 9 years
> > now. Why wouldn't your doc want to put you on this? Although, I'm not
> > on any diabetes meds now, I wasn't aware there would be any conflict
> > with a simple hormone replacement.
>
> Docs genuinely have a concern about overloading patients with too many
> drugs. Not only is there a burden on the patient but there's always a
> risk of some interaction between drugs.
>
> I agree, a pil of synthroid in the morning isn't a big deal (I've been
> doing it for like 20 years now)

Wow, there sure are a lot of diabetics here with thyroid issues too! I
always read your posts and didn't know you also had thyroid problems.
Was it Hashi's?

> but it adds up, and the fact that the
> synthroid is only most effective when taken on an empty stomach and
> without any food following it is sometimes at odds with when I need to
> eat to take care of my bg's.

That makes sense. I can see how this would be a concern for T1's and
insulin dependant T2s.


> Some have reported that synthroid raises their bg's.

That's what I was wondering about. I wouldn't begin to know how to
quantify that since I have no intention of going off synthroid. I
haven't been able to find any studies that address it and my endo has
said she doesn't think there's any relationship.

John wrote:
> Hi Kate, I really didn't want to post another message to the troll
> thread that's currently going, but you said something interesting that
> I'd like to discuss further.
>
>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>
>> is that good enough for you?
>
> I also have hypothyroidism and had it way before I was Dx'd T2. I
> take .125 mg synthroid and have taken this dose for almost 9 years
> now. Why wouldn't your doc want to put you on this? Although, I'm not
> on any diabetes meds now, I wasn't aware there would be any conflict
> with a simple hormone replacement.
>
> John C.

i didn't do a lot of reading into the subject, the line i caught
indicated that bg control can be more difficult when the patient is
taking thyroid meds at the same time..........i find this statement to
be surprising, because, if a person has the right level of thyroid
running their body, won't their metabolism be higher? won't that allow
the bg levels to be lower? i didn't notice much of a change to my
insulin dose when i went on the synthroid (one way or the other)

i have hashimoto's thyroiditis, my antibody titer was 9893.6 when this
was discovered...... my TSH was high and my T4 levels were
low...........this in combination qualifies me for 'borderline'
hypothyroidism as my GP called it........... with all the symptoms i had
at the time, it was clear that my thyroid was out of whack........ over
the next 3 years, i put on 100 lbs, and in the year and a half that i've
been on thyroid meds i have lost 29 lbs

i don't expect the weight to slide off me, i do expect it will be a
matter of 'slow but sure' until i'm back down to a weight i'm more
comfortable with

Julie might know more about this subject, i believe she has thyroid
problems too

kate

On Apr 15, 10:52*am, Tiger_Lily <m...@privacy.net> wrote:


> i have hashimoto's thyroiditis, my antibody titer was 9893.6 when this
> was discovered...... my TSH was high and my T4 levels were
> low...........this in combination qualifies me for 'borderline'
> hypothyroidism as my GP called it...

Me too...Hashi's. I dont remember the numbers, but I've been stable
for so long, I barely even think about it. I didn't gain any weight,
but I do remember that during the period I was having symptoms, I was
sleeping great! The downside was the dry skin, hair and the terrible
muscle cramps.

John C.

John wrote:
> On Apr 15, 10:52 am, Tiger_Lily <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
>> i have hashimoto's thyroiditis, my antibody titer was 9893.6 when this
>> was discovered...... my TSH was high and my T4 levels were
>> low...........this in combination qualifies me for 'borderline'
>> hypothyroidism as my GP called it...
>
> Me too...Hashi's. I dont remember the numbers, but I've been stable
> for so long, I barely even think about it. I didn't gain any weight,
> but I do remember that during the period I was having symptoms, I was
> sleeping great! The downside was the dry skin, hair and the terrible
> muscle cramps.
>
> John C.

question.......... did your Dr treat you for hypothyroid with these
symptoms? i also had a heavy feeling of lethargy, problems with memory
retention and other symptoms that i don't recall now (see problem with
memory retention)

kate

"John" <jcarney44@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Apr 15, 10:52 am, Tiger_Lily <m...@privacy.net> wrote:


> i have hashimoto's thyroiditis, my antibody titer was 9893.6 when this
> was discovered...... my TSH was high and my T4 levels were
> low...........this in combination qualifies me for 'borderline'
> hypothyroidism as my GP called it...

Me too...Hashi's. I dont remember the numbers, but I've been stable
for so long, I barely even think about it. I didn't gain any weight,
but I do remember that during the period I was having symptoms, I was
sleeping great! The downside was the dry skin, hair and the terrible
muscle cramps.

Ack. I remember those cramps. Horrible. I would get stuck in places and
be unable to move.

"John" <jcarney44@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:639d0394-1a83-49b9-8ae3-168894f508b8@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Kate, I really didn't want to post another message to the troll
> thread that's currently going, but you said something interesting that
> I'd like to discuss further.
>
>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>
>> is that good enough for you?
>
> I also have hypothyroidism and had it way before I was Dx'd T2. I
> take .125 mg synthroid and have taken this dose for almost 9 years
> now. Why wouldn't your doc want to put you on this? Although, I'm not
> on any diabetes meds now, I wasn't aware there would be any conflict
> with a simple hormone replacement.
>

I'm also baffled by the "only one disease treatment allowed" view.
(& if he felt that way, why not (or did he) refer you to an endo?)

I've taken thyroid meds for years (starting years pre-dm), ~11 years before
& 7+ since having my thyroid removed. I also take a diabetes med (since
about 5 years ago; 2 different meds but only one at a time). My endo &
internists don't seem to have any problem with this. They all want me to
take whatever meds needed for various conditions!

Thyroid hormone is the sort of thing that if you need it you need it --
though opinions vary as to when & how much you need. Sorta like insulin.
Even if you may have something *else* wrong that needs meds.
bj

"Tiger_Lily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:66jtpfF2km8g6U1@mid.individual.net...
> John wrote:
>> Hi Kate, I really didn't want to post another message to the troll
>> thread that's currently going, but you said something interesting that
>> I'd like to discuss further.
>>
>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>
>>> is that good enough for you?
>>
>> I also have hypothyroidism and had it way before I was Dx'd T2. I
>> take .125 mg synthroid and have taken this dose for almost 9 years
>> now. Why wouldn't your doc want to put you on this? Although, I'm not
>> on any diabetes meds now, I wasn't aware there would be any conflict
>> with a simple hormone replacement.
>>
>> John C.
>
> i didn't do a lot of reading into the subject, the line i caught indicated
> that bg control can be more difficult when the patient is taking thyroid
> meds at the same time..........i find this statement to be surprising,
> because, if a person has the right level of thyroid running their body,
> won't their metabolism be higher? won't that allow the bg levels to be
> lower? i didn't notice much of a change to my insulin dose when i went on
> the synthroid (one way or the other)
>
> i have hashimoto's thyroiditis, my antibody titer was 9893.6 when this was
> discovered...... my TSH was high and my T4 levels were low...........this
> in combination qualifies me for 'borderline' hypothyroidism as my GP
> called it........... with all the symptoms i had at the time, it was clear
> that my thyroid was out of whack........ over the next 3 years, i put on
> 100 lbs, and in the year and a half that i've been on thyroid meds i have
> lost 29 lbs
>
> i don't expect the weight to slide off me, i do expect it will be a matter
> of 'slow but sure' until i'm back down to a weight i'm more comfortable
> with
>
> Julie might know more about this subject, i believe she has thyroid
> problems too

I just know when I was being put on too much thyroid meds and was allowed to
run hyper thyroid while being told that all of my hyper symptoms related to
gastroparesis and fibromyalgia, my BG went hypo on my all the danged time.
I can remember sitting there for what seemed like months with candy in one
hand and my meter in the other. It was horrible. A simple trip to the
grocery store sent me hypo. And yet for all the extra calories I was taking
in, I was not gaining any weight.

Prior to this I had lost some weight rather rapidly, then quickly put back
on 13 of those 26 pounds I had lost. This is the reason (although faulty)
that my Endo. made me hyperthyroid. He said he had to because I wasn't
losing weight. Seems like on the surface of things this would work, but in
reality it does not.

Eventually my thyroid meds were stopped. When I learned of the link to soy
and thyroid, I stopped eating all soy and drastically reduced any other
goitrogenic foods. I still have a goiter, even though my thyroid is now
running normal. It seems for me that my BG just kept getting higher and
higher, thyroid meds or none. But I did not like the symptoms I was getting
from the thyroid med putting me hyper. Overheating, exhaustion but
insomnia, irritability, etc.

"Tiger_Lily" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:66k0vhF2i7kohU1@mid.individual.net...
> John wrote:
>> On Apr 15, 10:52 am, Tiger_Lily <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> i have hashimoto's thyroiditis, my antibody titer was 9893.6 when this
>>> was discovered...... my TSH was high and my T4 levels were
>>> low...........this in combination qualifies me for 'borderline'
>>> hypothyroidism as my GP called it...
>>
>> Me too...Hashi's. I dont remember the numbers, but I've been stable
>> for so long, I barely even think about it. I didn't gain any weight,
>> but I do remember that during the period I was having symptoms, I was
>> sleeping great! The downside was the dry skin, hair and the terrible
>> muscle cramps.
>>
>> John C.
>
> question.......... did your Dr treat you for hypothyroid with these
> symptoms? i also had a heavy feeling of lethargy, problems with memory
> retention and other symptoms that i don't recall now (see problem with
> memory retention)

Oh the brain fog. I used to hate that.

On Apr 15, 11:46*am, Tiger_Lily <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> John wrote:
> > On Apr 15, 10:52 am, Tiger_Lily <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >> i have hashimoto's thyroiditis, my antibody titer was 9893.6 when this
> >> was discovered...... my TSH was high and my T4 levels were
> >> low...........this in combination qualifies me for 'borderline'
> >> hypothyroidism as my GP called it...
>
> > Me too...Hashi's. I dont remember the numbers, but I've been stable
> > for so long, I barely even think about it. I didn't gain any weight,
> > but I do remember that during the period I was having symptoms, I was
> > sleeping great! The downside was the dry skin, hair and the terrible
> > muscle cramps.
>
> > John C.
>
> question.......... did your Dr treat you for hypothyroid with these
> symptoms? *i also had a heavy feeling of lethargy, problems with memory
> retention and other symptoms that i don't recall now (see problem with
> memory retention)
>
> kate- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No memory retetntion problems, but a bit of mild lethargy.

It started when I noticed slight lumps in my neck. I was 37 at the
time. When I first went to the doc, I got a nurse practicioner and she
had no idea what it could be. She suggested cancer!. When I got in to
see the doc 2 days later, he immediately said Hashimoto's and was
horrified that I'd been walking around for 2 days thinking I may have
cancer. I'll bet that nurse was seriously talked to.

Anyway, I had an ultrasound, blood tests and was titrated up on
synthroid until I felt normal and my TSH and T4 levels were normal.
The worst part was the muscle cramps. I remember being outside with my
then 6 year old son playing ball and had a muscle cramp in my butt so
bad I almost passed out from the pain. Funny now, but a pain in the
butt then (sorry, couldn't resist.)

John C.

On Apr 15, 9:22*am, John <jcarne...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > I agree, a pil of synthroid in the morning isn't a big deal (I've been
> > doing it for like 20 years now)
>
> Wow, there sure are a lot of diabetics here with thyroid issues too!

Most (but you and me are exceptions) who write about them here are
female.

> I always read your posts and didn't know you also had thyroid problems.
> Was it Hashi's?

Off the synthroid, I pretty much don't have any symptoms. Maybe my
hair falls out faster without the synthroid, but it's falling out
anyway :-).

I just had high TSH readings at the endo about the time I started
college, and they put me on a small dose of synthroid, then were
surprised that it wasn't enough, then a larger dose, then was
surprised that it wasn't enough (and asked me "Are you really taking
the pills?"), and then a larger one which seemed to bring the TSH
number down to their liking.

My history is certainly very different than the usual one I hear,
where the patient has to bug the doc to do the thyroid tests and then
bug them to get the right medication.

I always figured that endos like to treat hypothyroidism because it's
so easy. Yet everyone here tells me that it's so hard and their endos
don't like to treat it. Yet another example of how my experience is
totally at odds with what folks write here!

> > but it adds up, and the fact that the
> > synthroid is only most effective when taken on an empty stomach and
> > without any food following it is sometimes at odds with when I need to
> > eat to take care of my bg's.
>
> That makes sense. I can see how this would be a concern for T1's and
> insulin dependant T2s.
>
> > Some have reported that synthroid raises their bg's.
>
> That's what I was wondering about. I wouldn't begin to know how to
> quantify that since I have no intention of going off synthroid. I
> haven't been able to find any studies that address it and my endo has
> said she doesn't think there's any relationship.

I think that any drug could potentially interact with diabetes or
other diabetes medications and require some adjustment. I'm sure the
synthroid has some effect on my required insulin doses but I think
it's pretty small compared to the regular tweaking of insulin doses I
do anyway.

Tim.

On 4/15/08 10:27 AM, in article
b3f391a9-645f-4d76-b0d0-31aca06b463e...oglegroups.com, "Tim
Shoppa" <shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote:

> On Apr 15, 9:22*am, John <jcarne...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> I agree, a pil of synthroid in the morning isn't a big deal (I've been
>>> doing it for like 20 years now)
>>
>> Wow, there sure are a lot of diabetics here with thyroid issues too!
>
> Most (but you and me are exceptions) who write about them here are
> female.
>
>> I always read your posts and didn't know you also had thyroid problems.
>> Was it Hashi's?
>
> Off the synthroid, I pretty much don't have any symptoms. Maybe my
> hair falls out faster without the synthroid, but it's falling out
> anyway :-).
>
> I just had high TSH readings at the endo about the time I started
> college, and they put me on a small dose of synthroid, then were
> surprised that it wasn't enough, then a larger dose, then was
> surprised that it wasn't enough (and asked me "Are you really taking
> the pills?"), and then a larger one which seemed to bring the TSH
> number down to their liking.
>
> My history is certainly very different than the usual one I hear,
> where the patient has to bug the doc to do the thyroid tests and then
> bug them to get the right medication.
>
> I always figured that endos like to treat hypothyroidism because it's
> so easy. Yet everyone here tells me that it's so hard and their endos
> don't like to treat it. Yet another example of how my experience is
> totally at odds with what folks write here!
>
>>> but it adds up, and the fact that the
>>> synthroid is only most effective when taken on an empty stomach and
>>> without any food following it is sometimes at odds with when I need to
>>> eat to take care of my bg's.
>>
>> That makes sense. I can see how this would be a concern for T1's and
>> insulin dependant T2s.
>>
>>> Some have reported that synthroid raises their bg's.
>>
>> That's what I was wondering about. I wouldn't begin to know how to
>> quantify that since I have no intention of going off synthroid. I
>> haven't been able to find any studies that address it and my endo has
>> said she doesn't think there's any relationship.
>
> I think that any drug could potentially interact with diabetes or
> other diabetes medications and require some adjustment. I'm sure the
> synthroid has some effect on my required insulin doses but I think
> it's pretty small compared to the regular tweaking of insulin doses I
> do anyway.
>
> Tim.

Like Tim, I guess I'm one of the lucky ones too. My GP was right on top it.
She ordered lab tests once a week while she was adjusting the dose of my
Synthroid to bring the TSH and the T4 back to normal. As things settled down
the tests got farther and farther apart and now I usually get the TSH every
three months. I was dx'd with diabetes in '77 and hypothyroidism in 89. My
dosage hasn't changed in all those years since the readings were brought
into balance. Last month out of a clear blue sky she ordered a T4 along with
the TSH. TSH was 0.6 (0.38 -5.5) and my TA4 Free was marginally high - 22.4
(10.5 - 20.0). We are now on a watch for that. She's not too concerned
because the TSH is still in the normal range. My endo just rubber stamps
everything she does. He says she does as well as he. I know I'm very lucky
to have such a capable and caring doctor.

--
Martha T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

John wrote:
> On Apr 15, 11:46 am, Tiger_Lily <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> John wrote:
>>> On Apr 15, 10:52 am, Tiger_Lily <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> i have hashimoto's thyroiditis, my antibody titer was 9893.6 when this
>>>> was discovered...... my TSH was high and my T4 levels were
>>>> low...........this in combination qualifies me for 'borderline'
>>>> hypothyroidism as my GP called it...
>>> Me too...Hashi's. I dont remember the numbers, but I've been stable
>>> for so long, I barely even think about it. I didn't gain any weight,
>>> but I do remember that during the period I was having symptoms, I was
>>> sleeping great! The downside was the dry skin, hair and the terrible
>>> muscle cramps.
>>> John C.
>> question.......... did your Dr treat you for hypothyroid with these
>> symptoms? i also had a heavy feeling of lethargy, problems with memory
>> retention and other symptoms that i don't recall now (see problem with
>> memory retention)
>>
>> kate- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> No memory retetntion problems, but a bit of mild lethargy.
>
> It started when I noticed slight lumps in my neck. I was 37 at the
> time. When I first went to the doc, I got a nurse practicioner and she
> had no idea what it could be. She suggested cancer!. When I got in to
> see the doc 2 days later, he immediately said Hashimoto's and was
> horrified that I'd been walking around for 2 days thinking I may have
> cancer. I'll bet that nurse was seriously talked to.
>
> Anyway, I had an ultrasound, blood tests and was titrated up on
> synthroid until I felt normal and my TSH and T4 levels were normal.
> The worst part was the muscle cramps. I remember being outside with my
> then 6 year old son playing ball and had a muscle cramp in my butt so
> bad I almost passed out from the pain. Funny now, but a pain in the
> butt then (sorry, couldn't resist.)
>
> John C.
bwha ha ha, John, good sense of humor

i just ached........... all over........ especially in the joints

sigh

kate

bj wrote:
> "John" <jcarney44@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:639d0394-1a83-49b9-8ae3-168894f508b8@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi Kate, I really didn't want to post another message to the troll
>> thread that's currently going, but you said something interesting that
>> I'd like to discuss further.
>>
>>> untreated hypothyroid for 3 years because my GP didn't want to add
>>> thyroid meds to diabetes meds
>>>
>>> is that good enough for you?
>> I also have hypothyroidism and had it way before I was Dx'd T2. I
>> take .125 mg synthroid and have taken this dose for almost 9 years
>> now. Why wouldn't your doc want to put you on this? Although, I'm not
>> on any diabetes meds now, I wasn't aware there would be any conflict
>> with a simple hormone replacement.
>>
>
> I'm also baffled by the "only one disease treatment allowed" view.
> (& if he felt that way, why not (or did he) refer you to an endo?)
>
> I've taken thyroid meds for years (starting years pre-dm), ~11 years before
> & 7+ since having my thyroid removed. I also take a diabetes med (since
> about 5 years ago; 2 different meds but only one at a time). My endo &
> internists don't seem to have any problem with this. They all want me to
> take whatever meds needed for various conditions!
>
> Thyroid hormone is the sort of thing that if you need it you need it --
> though opinions vary as to when & how much you need. Sorta like insulin.
> Even if you may have something *else* wrong that needs meds.
> bj
>
>
>
BJ, my EX GP would not refer me to a 'specialist' 'because they make too
much money when HE does all the work'............. that's a direct
quote....... my NEW GP whom i saw last week said 'oh my, you haven't
seen your Endo in 4 years, i'll get you an appt in the next 2 months'

did i mention that i think the NEW GP is a keeper????

kate
oh......... i was on a waiting list for 18 months to get to see the new GP

"John" <jcarney44@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:81ce0fbc-bca4-4bbb-a626-1a105995a056@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
It started when I noticed slight lumps in my neck. I was 37 at the
time. When I first went to the doc, I got a nurse practicioner and she
had no idea what it could be. She suggested cancer!. When I got in to
see the doc 2 days later, he immediately said Hashimoto's and was
horrified that I'd been walking around for 2 days thinking I may have
cancer. I'll bet that nurse was seriously talked to.

Anyway, I had an ultrasound, blood tests and was titrated up on
synthroid until I felt normal and my TSH and T4 levels were normal.
The worst part was the muscle cramps. I remember being outside with my
then 6 year old son playing ball and had a muscle cramp in my butt so
bad I almost passed out from the pain. Funny now, but a pain in the
butt then (sorry, couldn't resist.)
---------------------------------------------------------

I hope that if you had (& still have, i.e. they didn't "go down") any
palpable lumps that your doctor has at least suggested FNA &/or repeat u/s
to spot any growth. BTW, u/s & blood tests *cannot* tell if it is cancer,
only a "risk %".

Yes, very few of these things are cancer, which means that....some of them
*are*. BTDT. Thyroid cancer, if it's the garden variety type, is very
treatable, but still nothing to fool around with as it may not stay that
way. Many if not most thycans do not have symptoms though some *also* have
had hypo or hyperT problems.
bj

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:27:07 -0700 (PDT), Tim Shoppa
<shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote:

>My history is certainly very different than the usual one I hear,
>where the patient has to bug the doc to do the thyroid tests and then
>bug them to get the right medication.
>
>I always figured that endos like to treat hypothyroidism because it's
>so easy. Yet everyone here tells me that it's so hard and their endos
>don't like to treat it. Yet another example of how my experience is
>totally at odds with what folks write here!

I have no explanation as to why but in most of this country it's
impossible to get other than TSH tested (probably the labs aren;t set
up to do T3 or T4) nor any explanation as to why in some areas it is
next to impossible to get even that tested, or to get treatment unless
you're virtually comatose, whereas in other areas they're much more
proactive.

After all it's not as if it's complicated or expensive to treat,
compared to a lot of other conditions, and it has knock-on effects
when untreated.

You'd almost think synthroid was an addictive street drug.

OTOH we seem in general to get better pain control than some of you
your side of the herring pond