Procedural question about filtering

If I were to filter out all posts that were cross posted to any
other group, would I miss anything? Are there cross-posters other
than a certain one we all know and love and those who reply to him?

"Peabody" <waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If I were to filter out all posts that were cross posted to any
> other group, would I miss anything? Are there cross-posters other
> than a certain one we all know and love and those who reply to him?
>
Some people crosspost to more than one diabetic newsgroup. I do,
at times.

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:30:37 -0600, Peabody
<waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote:

>If I were to filter out all posts that were cross posted to any
>other group, would I miss anything? Are there cross-posters other
>than a certain one we all know and love and those who reply to him?

Quite a few posters I read crosspost to the 3 main diabetic groups -
but none of them also crosspost to sci-anything, so that's what I
filter on!

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

x-no-archive: yes

Peabody wrote:
> If I were to filter out all posts that were cross posted to any
> other group, would I miss anything? Are there cross-posters other
> than a certain one we all know and love and those who reply to him?
>
>


Yes, there are useful threads on occasion that get x posted, but not mostly.

Susan

"Peabody" <waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If I were to filter out all posts that were cross posted to any
> other group, would I miss anything? Are there cross-posters other
> than a certain one we all know and love and those who reply to him?

Unfortunately the filtering capability under the current crop of news
readers leaves much to be desired. Forte may be ok, but the UI sucks so bad,
I will not use it. Would really love to be able to say filter say on "if
message id x-posted to X many groups, then delete". Will see if there are
any 3rd party solutions and post back.

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Nicky says...

> Quite a few posters I read crosspost to the 3 main
> diabetic groups - but none of them also crosspost to
> sci-anything, so that's what I filter on!

So you would miss anything cross-posted to
sci.med.cardiology? I would think that might be a natural
x-post on occasion.

DarkSentinel says...

> Unfortunately the filtering capability under the current
> crop of news readers leaves much to be desired. Forte
> may be ok, but the UI sucks so bad, I will not use it.
> Would really love to be able to say filter say on "if
> message id x-posted to X many groups, then delete". Will
> see if there are any 3rd party solutions and post back.

That's why I use a news reader that isn't one of the current
crop. In fact, it may be older than you are.

Well, I exaggerate. It was one of the original news
readers, but has been maintained and updated from time to
time. And it's free and non-bloat. It's WinVn, and
includes filtering options on the number of x-posted groups,
or any pattern match on group names, including wildcards. I
still use it for all text stuff.

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:33:59 -0800, DarkSentinel posted:

>"Peabody" <waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:eR9fj.28983$pq.7364@newsfe24.lga...
>> If I were to filter out all posts that were cross posted to any
>> other group, would I miss anything? Are there cross-posters other
>> than a certain one we all know and love and those who reply to him?
>
>Unfortunately the filtering capability under the current crop of news
>readers leaves much to be desired. Forte may be ok, but the UI sucks so bad,
>I will not use it. Would really love to be able to say filter say on "if
>message id x-posted to X many groups, then delete". Will see if there are
>any 3rd party solutions and post back.

Check out something called nfilter ( http://www.nfilter.org ). It sits
between your newsreader and the outside world, and everything comes in
through it.

This helps in one major way. There is no way, in most newsreaders, to
filter based on specific newsgroup crossposts without going through a
lot of hoops, but with nfilter, you can flag any post with a tag,
placed in the subject line, and then let your actual newsreader filter
it, based on that subject line tag.


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On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:40:18 -0600, Peabody
<waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Nicky says...
>
> > Quite a few posters I read crosspost to the 3 main
> > diabetic groups - but none of them also crosspost to
> > sci-anything, so that's what I filter on!
>
>So you would miss anything cross-posted to
>sci.med.cardiology? I would think that might be a natural
>x-post on occasion.

Indeed - but that's such a bear's den that I don't mind!

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

"Oleg Lego" <rat@atatatat.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:33:59 -0800, DarkSentinel posted:
>
>>"Peabody" <waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:eR9fj.28983$pq.7364@newsfe24.lga...
>>> If I were to filter out all posts that were cross posted to any
>>> other group, would I miss anything? Are there cross-posters other
>>> than a certain one we all know and love and those who reply to him?
>>
>>Unfortunately the filtering capability under the current crop of news
>>readers leaves much to be desired. Forte may be ok, but the UI sucks so
>>bad,
>>I will not use it. Would really love to be able to say filter say on "if
>>message id x-posted to X many groups, then delete". Will see if there are
>>any 3rd party solutions and post back.
>
> Check out something called nfilter ( http://www.nfilter.org ). It sits
> between your newsreader and the outside world, and everything comes in
> through it.
>
> This helps in one major way. There is no way, in most newsreaders, to
> filter based on specific newsgroup crossposts without going through a
> lot of hoops, but with nfilter, you can flag any post with a tag,
> placed in the subject line, and then let your actual newsreader filter
> it, based on that subject line tag.

Thanks Oleg!! Will definitely give it a look.

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"Peabody" <waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> DarkSentinel says...
>
> > Unfortunately the filtering capability under the current
> > crop of news readers leaves much to be desired. Forte
> > may be ok, but the UI sucks so bad, I will not use it.
> > Would really love to be able to say filter say on "if
> > message id x-posted to X many groups, then delete". Will
> > see if there are any 3rd party solutions and post back.
>
> That's why I use a news reader that isn't one of the current
> crop. In fact, it may be older than you are.
>
> Well, I exaggerate. It was one of the original news
> readers, but has been maintained and updated from time to
> time. And it's free and non-bloat. It's WinVn, and
> includes filtering options on the number of x-posted groups,
> or any pattern match on group names, including wildcards. I
> still use it for all text stuff.

Well, seeing as I used to do Fidonet, and the like before Usenet, it's
unlikely. Been doing the puter stuff since 81. Dang I'm getting old! Will
give that program a look.

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DarkSentinel says...

> Well, seeing as I used to do Fidonet, and the like
> before Usenet, it's unlikely. Been doing the puter stuff
> since 81. Dang I'm getting old!

I bet you were even a hub. Isaac Newton was a hub, you
know.

> Will give that program a look.

Go here, about mid-way down:

http://www.marks-lab.com/

By the way, the ability to filter on things like Newsgroups
depends on your server's ability to provide additional
header information as part of the XOVER header downloads.
Mine will do number of newsgroups, but not the pattern
matching. I think that's because number of groups info is
actually obtained from the XREF header.

Anyway, it's free, small, and doesn't mess up your registry.
And, I forgot to say, Windows only. But, you know, it isn't
a "modern" UI, as you sill see.

"Peabody" <waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> DarkSentinel says...
>
> > Well, seeing as I used to do Fidonet, and the like
> > before Usenet, it's unlikely. Been doing the puter stuff
> > since 81. Dang I'm getting old!
>
> I bet you were even a hub. Isaac Newton was a hub, you
> know.

No comment. LOL

> > Will give that program a look.
>
> Go here, about mid-way down:
>
> http://www.marks-lab.com/
>
> By the way, the ability to filter on things like Newsgroups
> depends on your server's ability to provide additional
> header information as part of the XOVER header downloads.
> Mine will do number of newsgroups, but not the pattern
> matching. I think that's because number of groups info is
> actually obtained from the XREF header.
>
> Anyway, it's free, small, and doesn't mess up your registry.
> And, I forgot to say, Windows only. But, you know, it isn't
> a "modern" UI, as you sill see.

Outstanding, thanks again for the tip. As for the modern UI, even though I
running Vista right now, I started on DOS and CP/M. Would invariably shell
out in Linux, and just use the CLI for most of the stuff there. I used Vi a
lot, that tell ya something?

That is why I did that post on the hotkey stuff. I just find it so much
easier for me to use the key strokes for a lot of stuff instead of wasting
movement on the mouse. So for me, interface is not as important as
usability, and doing what I need it to do to make me more productive.

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On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:49:01 -0600, Peabody
<waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote:

>DarkSentinel says...
>
> > Unfortunately the filtering capability under the current
> > crop of news readers leaves much to be desired. Forte
> > may be ok, but the UI sucks so bad, I will not use it.
> > Would really love to be able to say filter say on "if
> > message id x-posted to X many groups, then delete". Will
> > see if there are any 3rd party solutions and post back.
>
>That's why I use a news reader that isn't one of the current
>crop. In fact, it may be older than you are.
>
>Well, I exaggerate. It was one of the original news
>readers, but has been maintained and updated from time to
>time. And it's free and non-bloat. It's WinVn, and
>includes filtering options on the number of x-posted groups,
>or any pattern match on group names, including wildcards. I
>still use it for all text stuff.
>


agent does that as well.

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"Peabody" <waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Nicky says...
>
> > Quite a few posters I read crosspost to the 3 main
> > diabetic groups - but none of them also crosspost to
> > sci-anything, so that's what I filter on!
>
> So you would miss anything cross-posted to
> sci.med.cardiology? I would think that might be a natural
> x-post on occasion.
>
What makes you think diabetics want to read anything
crossposted there, since it's been taken over by *hung
and his friends?