Promise activ SuperShots

Has anyone looked into these? [No, I am not in any way in a position to gain
in any way from this except perhaps if sharing info about a health, dietary
supplement, etc. might help my lipids.]

From their website:

http://www.promisehealthyheart.com/p...supershots.asp

Discover a new way to help remove cholesterol from your body. Promise activ™
SuperShots™ are a new line of great tasting, powerful fruit and yogurt
flavored drinks with natural plant sterols, ingredients that are clinically
proven to help remove cholesterol from your body. Enjoy Promise activ™
SuperShots™ at least once a day with meals, as part of a diet low in
saturated fat and cholesterol, and you could reduce your LDL (bad)
cholesterol level.

Foods containing at least 0.4 g per serving of plant sterols, eaten twice a
day with meals for a total daily intake of at least 0.8 g, as part of a low
saturated fat, low trans fat and low cholesterol diet, may reduce the risk
of heart disease. A serving of Promise activ™ SuperShots™ provides 2.0g
plant sterols.

"DonnaB shallotpeel" <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:tqh0f3hiiubhgag671gmooo76erjmel91d@4ax.com...
> Has anyone looked into these? [No, I am not in any way in a position to
> gain
> in any way from this except perhaps if sharing info about a health,
> dietary
> supplement, etc. might help my lipids.]
>
> From their website:
>
> http://www.promisehealthyheart.com/p...supershots.asp
>
> Discover a new way to help remove cholesterol from your body. Promise
> activT
> SuperShotsT are a new line of great tasting, powerful fruit and yogurt
> flavored drinks with natural plant sterols, ingredients that are
> clinically
> proven to help remove cholesterol from your body. Enjoy Promise activT
> SuperShotsT at least once a day with meals, as part of a diet low in
> saturated fat and cholesterol, and you could reduce your LDL (bad)
> cholesterol level.
>
> Foods containing at least 0.4 g per serving of plant sterols, eaten twice
> a
> day with meals for a total daily intake of at least 0.8 g, as part of a
> low
> saturated fat, low trans fat and low cholesterol diet, may reduce the risk
> of heart disease. A serving of Promise activT SuperShotsT provides 2.0g
> plant sterols.

That site must be overloaded. It wouldn't load for me.

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:49:34 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
<shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote:

>Has anyone looked into these? [No, I am not in any way in a position to gain
>in any way from this except perhaps if sharing info about a health, dietary
>supplement, etc. might help my lipids.]
>
>From their website:
>
>http://www.promisehealthyheart.com/p...supershots.asp
>
>Discover a new way to help remove cholesterol from your body. Promise activâ„¢
>SuperShotsâ„¢ are a new line of great tasting, powerful fruit and yogurt
>flavored drinks with natural plant sterols, ingredients that are clinically
>proven to help remove cholesterol from your body. Enjoy Promise activâ„¢
>SuperShotsâ„¢ at least once a day with meals, as part of a diet low in
>saturated fat and cholesterol, and you could reduce your LDL (bad)
>cholesterol level.
>
>Foods containing at least 0.4 g per serving of plant sterols, eaten twice a
>day with meals for a total daily intake of at least 0.8 g, as part of a low
>saturated fat, low trans fat and low cholesterol diet, may reduce the risk
>of heart disease. A serving of Promise activâ„¢ SuperShotsâ„¢ provides 2.0g
>plant sterols.

Sounds very similar to a drinks version of the margarines
sold here with plant sterols added. I note they also have
spreads on the site.

Ozgirl has used those and may comment on their
effectiveness. Apart from whether or not they work, another
concern would be the 8gm of carbs in a 100ml serve of the
drinks and the price compared to other alternatives such as
margarines.

Maybe one of the computer experts could comment on why their
pages take forever to load.









Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6on0f397nhamku7cm5v9r54vei5if8kes9@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:49:34 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
> <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone looked into these? [No, I am not in any way in a position to
>>gain
>>in any way from this except perhaps if sharing info about a health,
>>dietary
>>supplement, etc. might help my lipids.]
>>
>>From their website:
>>
>>http://www.promisehealthyheart.com/p...supershots.asp
>>
>>Discover a new way to help remove cholesterol from your body. Promise
>>activT
>>SuperShotsT are a new line of great tasting, powerful fruit and yogurt
>>flavored drinks with natural plant sterols, ingredients that are
>>clinically
>>proven to help remove cholesterol from your body. Enjoy Promise activT
>>SuperShotsT at least once a day with meals, as part of a diet low in
>>saturated fat and cholesterol, and you could reduce your LDL (bad)
>>cholesterol level.
>>
>>Foods containing at least 0.4 g per serving of plant sterols, eaten twice
>>a
>>day with meals for a total daily intake of at least 0.8 g, as part of a
>>low
>>saturated fat, low trans fat and low cholesterol diet, may reduce the risk
>>of heart disease. A serving of Promise activT SuperShotsT provides 2.0g
>>plant sterols.
>
> Sounds very similar to a drinks version of the margarines
> sold here with plant sterols added. I note they also have
> spreads on the site.
>
> Ozgirl has used those and may comment on their
> effectiveness. Apart from whether or not they work, another
> concern would be the 8gm of carbs in a 100ml serve of the
> drinks and the price compared to other alternatives such as
> margarines.

Yes, I use plant sterol margarines. As you know I haven't been able to take
statins, so I had to find my own way to reduce cholesterol levels to an
acceptable level. With making no other changes, I found a significant drop
in total cholesterol and raising of the good stuff within a relatively short
time (1 month between tests). I had dropped eating daily amounts of full fat
cheese. Personal experiment showed I could raise and lower my total
cholesterol by eating or nor eating full fat cheese daily.

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:48:49 +1000, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>
>"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:6on0f397nhamku7cm5v9r54vei5if8kes9@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:49:34 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
>> <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Has anyone looked into these? [No, I am not in any way in a position to
>>>gain
>>>in any way from this except perhaps if sharing info about a health,
>>>dietary
>>>supplement, etc. might help my lipids.]
>>>
>>>From their website:
>>>
>>>http://www.promisehealthyheart.com/p...supershots.asp
>>>
>>>Discover a new way to help remove cholesterol from your body. Promise
>>>activT
>>>SuperShotsT are a new line of great tasting, powerful fruit and yogurt
>>>flavored drinks with natural plant sterols, ingredients that are
>>>clinically
>>>proven to help remove cholesterol from your body. Enjoy Promise activT
>>>SuperShotsT at least once a day with meals, as part of a diet low in
>>>saturated fat and cholesterol, and you could reduce your LDL (bad)
>>>cholesterol level.
>>>
>>>Foods containing at least 0.4 g per serving of plant sterols, eaten twice
>>>a
>>>day with meals for a total daily intake of at least 0.8 g, as part of a
>>>low
>>>saturated fat, low trans fat and low cholesterol diet, may reduce the risk
>>>of heart disease. A serving of Promise activT SuperShotsT provides 2.0g
>>>plant sterols.
>>
>> Sounds very similar to a drinks version of the margarines
>> sold here with plant sterols added. I note they also have
>> spreads on the site.
>>
>> Ozgirl has used those and may comment on their
>> effectiveness. Apart from whether or not they work, another
>> concern would be the 8gm of carbs in a 100ml serve of the
>> drinks and the price compared to other alternatives such as
>> margarines.
>
>Yes, I use plant sterol margarines. As you know I haven't been able to take
>statins, so I had to find my own way to reduce cholesterol levels to an
>acceptable level. With making no other changes, I found a significant drop
>in total cholesterol and raising of the good stuff within a relatively short
>time (1 month between tests). I had dropped eating daily amounts of full fat
>cheese. Personal experiment showed I could raise and lower my total
>cholesterol by eating or nor eating full fat cheese daily.
>

Which went up and down with the cheese? HDL, LDL or trigs?


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9o71f3t6uqdnv4vukobhs1b1vo6aikqk1a@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:48:49 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:6on0f397nhamku7cm5v9r54vei5if8kes9@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:49:34 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
>>> <shallotpeel@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Has anyone looked into these? [No, I am not in any way in a position to
>>>>gain
>>>>in any way from this except perhaps if sharing info about a health,
>>>>dietary
>>>>supplement, etc. might help my lipids.]
>>>>
>>>>From their website:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.promisehealthyheart.com/p...supershots.asp
>>>>
>>>>Discover a new way to help remove cholesterol from your body. Promise
>>>>activT
>>>>SuperShotsT are a new line of great tasting, powerful fruit and yogurt
>>>>flavored drinks with natural plant sterols, ingredients that are
>>>>clinically
>>>>proven to help remove cholesterol from your body. Enjoy Promise activT
>>>>SuperShotsT at least once a day with meals, as part of a diet low in
>>>>saturated fat and cholesterol, and you could reduce your LDL (bad)
>>>>cholesterol level.
>>>>
>>>>Foods containing at least 0.4 g per serving of plant sterols, eaten
>>>>twice
>>>>a
>>>>day with meals for a total daily intake of at least 0.8 g, as part of a
>>>>low
>>>>saturated fat, low trans fat and low cholesterol diet, may reduce the
>>>>risk
>>>>of heart disease. A serving of Promise activT SuperShotsT provides 2.0g
>>>>plant sterols.
>>>
>>> Sounds very similar to a drinks version of the margarines
>>> sold here with plant sterols added. I note they also have
>>> spreads on the site.
>>>
>>> Ozgirl has used those and may comment on their
>>> effectiveness. Apart from whether or not they work, another
>>> concern would be the 8gm of carbs in a 100ml serve of the
>>> drinks and the price compared to other alternatives such as
>>> margarines.
>>
>>Yes, I use plant sterol margarines. As you know I haven't been able to
>>take
>>statins, so I had to find my own way to reduce cholesterol levels to an
>>acceptable level. With making no other changes, I found a significant drop
>>in total cholesterol and raising of the good stuff within a relatively
>>short
>>time (1 month between tests). I had dropped eating daily amounts of full
>>fat
>>cheese. Personal experiment showed I could raise and lower my total
>>cholesterol by eating or nor eating full fat cheese daily.
>>
>
> Which went up and down with the cheese? HDL, LDL or trigs?

The bad one, LDL?

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:09:15 +1000, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>>>Yes, I use plant sterol margarines. As you know I haven't been able to
>>>take
>>>statins, so I had to find my own way to reduce cholesterol levels to an
>>>acceptable level. With making no other changes, I found a significant drop
>>>in total cholesterol and raising of the good stuff within a relatively
>>>short
>>>time (1 month between tests). I had dropped eating daily amounts of full
>>>fat
>>>cheese. Personal experiment showed I could raise and lower my total
>>>cholesterol by eating or nor eating full fat cheese daily.
>>>
>>
>> Which went up and down with the cheese? HDL, LDL or trigs?
>
>The bad one, LDL?
>
Hmmm. I've been enjoying a daily ration of blue, brie or
camembert. Maybe wise to review that.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com

"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:sgi1f3t6h3nnini14sif3tbv56jj75sepi@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:09:15 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Yes, I use plant sterol margarines. As you know I haven't been able to
>>>>take
>>>>statins, so I had to find my own way to reduce cholesterol levels to an
>>>>acceptable level. With making no other changes, I found a significant
>>>>drop
>>>>in total cholesterol and raising of the good stuff within a relatively
>>>>short
>>>>time (1 month between tests). I had dropped eating daily amounts of full
>>>>fat
>>>>cheese. Personal experiment showed I could raise and lower my total
>>>>cholesterol by eating or nor eating full fat cheese daily.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which went up and down with the cheese? HDL, LDL or trigs?
>>
>>The bad one, LDL?
>>
> Hmmm. I've been enjoying a daily ration of blue, brie or
> camembert. Maybe wise to review that.

Everyone is different. Although I did read once that dairy (cream, milk,
cheese, yoghurt) upped the blood cholesterol levels more than other foods.

Ozgirl <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

> Personal experiment showed I could raise and lower my total
> cholesterol by eating or nor eating full fat cheese daily.

Damn! I wish you hadn't told me that! Well, at least I've got
plenty of experimental material in the larder :-)

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

"Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:5lcdblF7bfmaU2@mid.individual.net...
> Ozgirl <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
>
>> Personal experiment showed I could raise and lower my total
>> cholesterol by eating or nor eating full fat cheese daily.
>
> Damn! I wish you hadn't told me that! Well, at least I've got
> plenty of experimental material in the larder :-)

When I first started lowering my carbs and counting calories my weight
dropped significantly and so did tris, cholesterol etc. I hit the magic 5.0
for total cholesterol finally after a month on the plant sterol margarine.
Then the lab report put an asterisk next to it - explaining that the new max
for diabetics was <4.0. I tried everything I could think of and it wouldn't
budge. I had already replaced almost almost all my sat fats with "good
fats", was using the margarine faithfully and exercising, blah blah. But I
was still snacking on full fat cheeses.

I ran out of cheese one day and somehow got out of the habit of eating it.
My next lab test showed a dramatic drop in ldl and I hit 3.8 for total
cholesterol. I had a few labs for a while with similar results and somehow
got onto the fat cheeses again and my numbers went up dramatically. Nearly
6.0 for total chol. I realised cheeses was the only difference so I went off
it again and lab tests changed dramatically. I have tested this theory a
couple more times.

Sometimes I was replacing meat protein with cheese in main meals as well as
eating a goodly slice for a snack. So, that's my anecdotal evidence Study
of one, again

Donna, it doesnt say how many carbs are in it. I wouldnt suggest it for
people who have very high cholesterol but for people who are borderline,
it might be worth a try. they say it is delicious delicious and carbs
seem to go together lol

Loretta

In alt.support.diabetes on Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:33:31 -0400 in Msg.#
<16342-46F1171B-1047@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net>, sassybklynlady@webtv.net
(Loretta Eisenberg) wrote:

> Donna, it doesnt say how many carbs are in it. I wouldnt suggest it for
> people who have very high cholesterol but for people who are borderline,
> it might be worth a try. they say it is delicious delicious and carbs
> seem to go together lol

They recommend you drink one serving per day, with a meal, and a serving is
8 grams carb.

So, the question as to carbs is if one can afford to take on 8 grams just
for it. Certainly seems possible to me.

The bigger questions, to me again, are expense, and efficacy, IOW, how much
it will affect lipid numbers.

I don't know why it would NOT be a good part of a regime for people with
'bad' numbers, though.

To me, again, LOL, it would seem of interest more for 'bad' numbers than
borderline ones. [friendly shrug] Ya got bad numbers, why don't you need all
the help you can manage?

--
DonnaB shallotpeel

"A couple of weeks ago he was wearing diapers. Now he's a teenager?!!" -
Gunn, about Connor "Tell me we don't live in a soap opera." - Cordelia,
obviously hip to the SORAS; 'A New World' ANGEL 2002

Ozgirl <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

> "Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:5lcdblF7bfmaU2@mid.individual.net...
>> Ozgirl <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Personal experiment showed I could raise and lower my total
>>> cholesterol by eating or nor eating full fat cheese daily.
>>
>> Damn! I wish you hadn't told me that! Well, at least I've got
>> plenty of experimental material in the larder :-)

> When I first started lowering my carbs and counting calories my weight
> dropped significantly and so did tris, cholesterol etc. I hit the magic 5.0
> for total cholesterol finally after a month on the plant sterol margarine.
> Then the lab report put an asterisk next to it - explaining that the new max
> for diabetics was <4.0. I tried everything I could think of and it wouldn't
> budge. I had already replaced almost almost all my sat fats with "good
> fats", was using the margarine faithfully and exercising, blah blah. But I
> was still snacking on full fat cheeses.

> I ran out of cheese one day and somehow got out of the habit of eating it.
> My next lab test showed a dramatic drop in ldl and I hit 3.8 for total
> cholesterol. I had a few labs for a while with similar results and somehow
> got onto the fat cheeses again and my numbers went up dramatically. Nearly
> 6.0 for total chol. I realised cheeses was the only difference so I went off
> it again and lab tests changed dramatically. I have tested this theory a
> couple more times.

> Sometimes I was replacing meat protein with cheese in main meals as well as
> eating a goodly slice for a snack. So, that's my anecdotal evidence Study
> of one, again

I think studies of one have been given an undeservedly bad reputation
by statisticians. When you take your car in for a service it hopefully
gets fixed by detailed experimental investigation of its specific
problems.

You'd be rather annoyed if you got the car back and it behaved rather
oddly, and the garage told you "Cars of that model and age have been
shown in large scale statistical studies to benefit from molybdenum
disulphide in the engine oil, so that's what we tried. Unfortunate
side effects of the kind you describe have been reported, but are
rare. Since your car seems to be one of those rare cases we think it
would be worth trying tin disulphide instead."

And then when you asked them what was actually wrong with your car
they said, "It's clear that bad deposits have been building up. We
don't know why. Cars are very complicated. They're rather like people
in fact. (Toe-curlingly patronising analogy of people with cars
omitted :-) The latest research does suggest that these additives are
safe and helpful in cases of this kind, especially with old red cars
like yours."

Yet this is how some medical interviews are conducted :-)

--
Chris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

Ozgirl wrote:

> Everyone is different. Although I did read once that dairy (cream, milk,
> cheese, yoghurt) upped the blood cholesterol levels more than other foods.

As someone else who wants to defend her dairy intake... I hope this
doesn't apply so much to dairy produced by grass-fed animals.

Another thing to research...

--
http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/

BTW, thanks one & all for the discussion. I am already using margarine with
the plant sterols in them & have decided, at least for a time, to try the
SuperShots.

--
DonnaB shallotpeel, T2 since June 06, USA, last HbA1c 5.3

"A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but
rather a person with a certain set of attitudes." - Scottish proverb

But, you can't say that to a nation of over 400 cheses ...
As Chrios Malcolm says, I also have a larder full of
material for experimentation ...

Frank
- beer: no longer just a breakfast drink.

"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> a écrit ...
>
> "Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote ...
>> Ozgirl <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Personal experiment showed I could raise and lower my total
>>> cholesterol by eating or nor eating full fat cheese daily.
>>
>> Damn! I wish you hadn't told me that! Well, at least I've got
>> plenty of experimental material in the larder :-)
>
> When I first started lowering my carbs and counting calories my weight
> dropped significantly and so did tris, cholesterol etc. I hit the magic
> 5.0 for total cholesterol finally after a month on the plant sterol
> margarine. Then the lab report put an asterisk next to it - explaining
> that the new max for diabetics was <4.0. I tried everything I could think
> of and it wouldn't budge. I had already replaced almost almost all my sat
> fats with "good fats", was using the margarine faithfully and exercising,
> blah blah. But I was still snacking on full fat cheeses.
>
> I ran out of cheese one day and somehow got out of the habit of eating it.
> My next lab test showed a dramatic drop in ldl and I hit 3.8 for total
> cholesterol. I had a few labs for a while with similar results and somehow
> got onto the fat cheeses again and my numbers went up dramatically. Nearly
> 6.0 for total chol. I realised cheeses was the only difference so I went
> off it again and lab tests changed dramatically. I have tested this theory
> a couple more times.
>
> Sometimes I was replacing meat protein with cheese in main meals as well
> as eating a goodly slice for a snack. So, that's my anecdotal evidence
> Study of one, again
>