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04-09-2007, 04:34 PM
| | | Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day and the diabetic demons are very angry. friend George wrote:
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> "Genus"?
No.
Demons (satan's sockpuppets) are infinitely less than a subspecies.
May GOD bless you.
Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
Andrew <><
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04-09-2007, 07:16 PM
| | | Re: Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day and the diabetic demons are very angry.
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
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> friend George wrote:
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>> "Genus"?
>
> No.
>
> Demons (satan's sockpuppets) are infinitely less than a subspecies.
>
> May GOD bless you.
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Don't do me any favors. Just the thought of someone believing in some sky
pixie (other than the God Tinkerbelle) makes me PUKE!
I wasn't responding to you, anyway.
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"The number one reason people turn away from Christ is Christians!"
Pious Paul
"Man of Sin"
Ordained Minister-Universal Life Church
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04-09-2007, 07:16 PM
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> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message news:1176103915.075137.315420@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>> friend George wrote:
>>>
>>> "Genus"?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Demons (satan's sockpuppets) are infinitely less than a subspecies.
>>
>> May GOD bless you.
>>
>> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>
>> Andrew <><
>> --
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Don't do me any favors. Just the thought of someone believing in some sky pixie (other than the God Tinkerbelle) makes me PUKE!
>
> I wasn't responding to you, anyway.
>
>
> --
>
> "The number one reason people turn away from Christ is Christians!"
>
>
> Pious Paul
>
> "Man of Sin"
>
>
> Ordained Minister-Universal Life Church <== by whom!
> AFJC Photo Archivist <== smut folder
> DOD#144,000 (the LAST one in) <== I doubt you'll ever get in!
>
> "AFJC...We Care" <== about me, mtsel, and Ionly
Unbelief and Its Consequences
(Romans 1:18-32 NASB) Unbelief and Its Consequences
18 For ?a?the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who ?b?suppress the truth
?1?in unrighteousness,
19 because ?a?that which is known about God is evident
?1?within them; for God made it evident to them.
20 For ?a?since the creation of the world His invisible
attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly
seen, ?b?being understood through what has been made, so that they
are without excuse.
21 For even though they knew God, they did not ?1?honor Him as
God or give thanks, but they became ?a?futile in their
speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 ?a?Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23 and ?a?exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an
image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed
animals and ?1?crawling creatures.
24 Therefore ?a?God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts
to impurity, so that their bodies would be ?b?dishonored among
them.
25 For they exchanged the truth of God for ?1?a ?a?lie, and
worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, ?b?who
is blessed ?2?forever. Amen.
26 For this reason ?a?God gave them over to ?b?degrading
passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that
which is ?1?unnatural,
27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural
function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one
another, ?a?men with men committing ?1?indecent acts and receiving
in ?2?their own persons the due penalty of their error.
28 And just as they did not see fit ?1?to acknowledge God any
longer, ?a?God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those
things which are not proper,
29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed,
evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are
?a?gossips,
30 slanderers, ?1??a?haters of God, insolent, arrogant,
boastful, inventors of evil, ?b?disobedient to parents,
31 without understanding, untrustworthy, ?a?unloving,
unmerciful;
32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who
practice such things are worthy of ?a?death, they not only do the
same, but also ?b?give hearty approval to those who practice them.
[1]
1:20
1:20 invisible attributes. This refers specifically to the two mentioned
in this verse. by the things that are made. The creation delivers a
clear, unmistakable message about God's person (cf. Pss. 19:1-8; 94:9;
Acts 14:15-17; 17:23-28). His eternal power. The Creator, who made all
that we see around us and constantly sustains it, must be a being of
awesome power. Godhead. That is, His divine nature, particularly His
faithfulness (Gen. 8:21, 22), kindness, and graciousness (Acts 14:17).
they are without excuse. God holds all men responsible for their refusal
to acknowledge what He has shown them of Himself in His creation. Even
those who have never had an opportunity to hear the gospel have received
a clear witness about the existence and character of God-and have
suppressed it. If a person will respond to the revelation he has, even
if it is solely natural revelation, God will provide some means for that
person to hear the gospel (cf. Acts 8:26-39; 10:1-48; 17:27).[2]
1:21-1:23
Every man knows there's a God, but men choose to suppress the
truth and deny God exists because they don't want to give glory
to Him as God. You see, if there is a God, then I am required to
submit to Him. But my flesh doesn't want to do that, so I'll
suppress the truth I see all around me. I'll say God doesn't
exist-even though the heavens and stars scream at me, "Yes He
does!"
We can fall into this same error as believers. Knowing God, we can fail
to glorify Him as God. How? By insisting on our own way, by saying,
"God, I believe in You, and now I'm telling You what I want You to do.
You better solve this situation, take care of this problem, grant this
request, or heal this sickness. I'm naming it. I'm claiming it."
He's God. We're not. He knows things we can't know and sees things we
can't see. Therefore, for me to rub the lamp of faith and expect God to
become my genie is, in a sense, blasphemous. Father knows best.
Therefore, my part is to talk things over with Him, cast my cares upon
Him, and have faith that He will do what's right-even though I might not
initially agree or understand.[3]
There is no such thing as man moving upward. These verses contradict the
hypothesis of evolution. Man is not improving physically, morally,
intellectually, or spiritually. The pull is downward. Of course this
contradicts all the anthologies of religion that start with man in a
very primitive condition as a caveman with very little intellectual
qualities and move him up intellectually and begin moving him toward
God. This is absolute error. Man is moving away from God, and right now
the world is probably farther from God than at any time in its history.
The fact of the matter is that every primitive tribe has a tradition
that way back in the beginning their ancestors knew God. Dr. Vincent in
Word Studies in the New Testament says, "I think it may be proved from
facts that any given people, down to the lowest savages, has at any
period of its life known far more than it has done: known quite enough
to have enabled it to have got on comfortably, thriven and developed, if
it had only done what no man does, all that it knew it ought to do and
could do." No people have ever lived up to the light that they have had.
Although they had a knowledge of God, they moved away from Him.
"They glorified him not as God." They did not give Him His rightful
place, and man became self-sufficient. In our day man has made the
announcement that God is dead. In the beginning the human family did not
suggest that God was dead, they simply turned their backs upon Him and
made man their god.
"Neither were thankful." Ingratitude is one of the worst sins there is.
You recall that the Lord Jesus healed ten lepers, but only one returned
to thank Him. Only ten percent were thankful, and I believe it is less
than that today.
"Became vain in their imaginations"-they even concocted a theory of
evolution.
"Their foolish heart was darkened." They moved into the darkness of
paganism. You see living proof of this as you walk down the streets of
Cairo in Egypt or of Istanbul in Turkey. In fact, all you have to do is
walk down the streets of Los Angeles to know that man's foolish heart is
darkened.
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." The wisdom of man
is foolishness with God. Man searches for truth through logical
reasoning but arrives at a philosophy that is foolish in God's sight.[4]
1:19-1:27
The ungodliness of mankind 1:19-27
1:19-20 These verses begin a discussion of "natural revelation." Natural
revelation describes what everyone knows about God because of what God
has revealed concerning Himself in nature. What He has revealed about
Himself in Scripture is "special revelation." The creation bears
testimony to its Maker, and every human being "hears" this witness (cf.
Ps. 19).43
"Napoleon, on a warship in the Mediterranean on a star-lit night, passed
a group of his officers who were mocking at the idea of a God. He
stopped, and sweeping his hand toward the stars, said, 'Gentlemen, you
must get rid of those first!'"44
Four things characterize this revelation. First, it is a clear
testimony; everyone is aware of it ("it is evident [plain]"). Second,
everyone can understand it. We can draw conclusions about the Creator
from His creation.45 Third, it has gone out since the creation of the
world in every generation. Fourth, it is a limited revelation in that it
does not reveal everything about God (e.g., His love and grace) but only
some things (i.e., His power and deity). Natural revelation makes man
responsible to respond to his Creator in worship and submission. However
it does not give sufficient information for him to experience salvation.
That is why everyone needs to hear the gospel.
"Utter uncompromising, abandonment of hope in man is the first
preliminary to understanding or preaching the gospel."46
1:20 Ever since the creation of the world, two invisible characteristics
of God have been on display for all to see: His eternal power and His
divinity or Godhead. The word Paul uses here means divinity or godhood.
It suggests the character of God rather than His essential being, His
glorious attributes rather than His inherent deity. His deity is
assumed.
The argument here is clear: Creation demands a Creator. Design demands a
Designer. By looking up at the sun, moon, and stars, anyone can know
there is a God.
The answer to the question "What about the heathen?" is this: they are
without excuse. God has revealed Himself to them in creation, but they
have not responded to this revelation. So people are not condemned for
rejecting a Savior they have never heard of, but for being unfaithful to
what they could know about God. [5]
1:21-23 Honoring God as God and giving Him thanks (v. 21) are our
primary duties to God in view of who He is. Mythology and idolatry
have resulted from man's need to identify some power greater than
himself and his refusal to acknowledge God as that power. Men and
women have elevated themselves to God's position (cf. Dan. 2:38;
3:1; 5:23). In our day, humanism has replaced the worship of
individual human leaders in most western countries. Man has
descended to the worship of animals as well (cf. Ps. 106:20). This
is perhaps more characteristic of third world countries.
"This tragic process of human 'god-making' continues apace in our own
day, and Paul's words have as much relevance for people who have made
money or sex or fame their gods as for those who carved idols out of
wood and stone."47
Note the allusions to the creation story in the threefold division of
the animal kingdom in verse 23.
1:24-25 The false religions that man has devised and to which Paul just
referred constitute some of God's judgment on mankind for turning from
Him. False religion is not in any sense good for mankind. It is a
judgment from God, and it tends to keep people so distracted that they
rarely deal with the true God.
"God's wrath mentioned in Romans 1 is not an active outpouring of divine
displeasure but the removal of restraint that allows sinners to reap the
just fruits of their rebellion."48
It is active in another sense, however. God gave man over (v. 24; cf.
vv. 26, 28) by turning him over to the punishment his crime earned, as a
judge does a prisoner. The third characteristic of man in rebellion
against God that Paul identified after ignorance (v. 21) and idolatry
(v. 23) is impurity (v. 24). Here Paul evidently had natural forms of
moral uncleanness in view such as adultery and harlotry. He went on in
verses 26-27 to describe even worse immorality, namely unnatural acts
such as homosexuality.49
Mankind exchanged the truth of God (v. 25; cf. v. 18) for "the lie"
(literally). The lie in view is the contention that we should venerate
someone or something in place of the true God (cf. Gen. 3:1-5; Matt.
4:3-10). Paul's concluding doxology underlined this folly.
1:26-27 Because mankind "exchanged" the truth for the lie God allowed
him to degrade himself through his passions. The result was that he
"exchanged" natural human functions for what is unnatural. In the Greek
text the words translated "women" (thelus; v. 26) and "men" (arsen, v.
27) mean "females" and "males." Ironically the homosexuality described
in these verses does not characterize females and males of other animal
species, only human beings. Homosexuality is a perversion because it
uses sex for a purpose contrary to those for which God created and
intended it (Gen. 1:28).
"This need not demand the conclusion that every homosexual follows the
practice in deliberate rebellion against God's prescribed order. What is
true historically and theologically is in measure true, however,
experientially."50
AIDS, for example, is probably the consequence of man's rebellion
against God rather than a special judgment from God. The "due penalty"
is what man experiences as a result of God giving him over and letting
him indulge his sinful desires (cf. 6:23).51
"Sin comes from the mind, which perverts the judgment. The effect of
retribution is to abandon the mind to that depravity."52
"A contextual and exegetical examination of Romans 1:26-27 reveals that
attempts by some contemporary writers to do away with Paul's
prohibitions against present-day same-sex relations are false Paul did
not impose Jewish customs and rules on his readers; instead he addressed
same-sex relations from the trans-cultural perspective of God's created
order. God's punishment for sin is rooted in a sinful reversal of the
created order. Nor was homosexuality simply a sin practiced by idolaters
in Paul's day; it was a distorting consequence of the fall of the human
race in the Garden of Eden. Neither did Paul describe homosexual acts by
heterosexuals. Instead he wrote that homosexual activity was an exchange
of the created order (heterosexuality) for a talionic perversion
(homosexuality), which is never presented in Scripture as an acceptable
norm for sexuality. Also Hellenistic pederasty does not fully account
for the terms and logic of Romans 1:26-27 which refers to adult-adult
mutuality. Therefore it is clear that in Romans 1:26-27 Paul condemned
homosexuality as a perversion of God's design for human sexual
relations."53 [6]
The God of the Bible, in contrast to some pagan religions, is in
sovereign control of everything, including evil, which he uses to
accomplish his good purposes (cf. Job 1-3).
Third, the Bible sometimes speaks of God "hardening" people's hearts
(see Rom. 9:17-18) or even sending them strong delusions (2 Thess.
2:11). However, on closer examination, we discover that God did this to
those who had hardened their own hearts (Exod. 8:15) and who "did not
believe the truth" (2 Thess. 2:12). God uses even their depravity to
accomplish his purposes. God permits lying as a judgment on evil.
God, for his own purposes of justice, allowed Ahab to be deceived by
evil spirits to accomplish his sovereign and good will.
John 7:3-10. Bible critics have sometimes appealed to this text to show
that Jesus lied. This is a serious charge, since it would not only be a
divinely approved lie, but one told by God himself in the person of his
Son. Jesus' unbelieving brothers challenged him to go up to Jerusalem
and show himself openly to be the Messiah (7:3-4). Jesus refused,
saying, "I am not yet going up to this feast, because for me the right
time has not yet come" (vs. 8). But later Jesus did go (vs. 10). Jesus
did not go openly, as the brothers had suggested, nor at the immediate
time they suggested. Further, John 7:8 relates that Jesus said he was
not yet going. "He remained in Galilee" before he went up. [7]
Man has a revelation from God, but he flagrantly flaunts it by defying
the judgment of God against such sins. He continues to practice them and
applauds and approves those who do the same. [8]
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a Rom 5:9; Eph 5:6; Col 3:6 b 2 Thess 2:6f 1 Or by a Acts 14:17; 17:24ff
1 Or among a Mark 10:6 b Job 12:7-9; Ps 19:1-6; Jer 5:21f 1 Lit glorify
a 2 Kin 17:15; Jer 2:5; Eph 4:17f a Jer 10:14; 1 Cor 1:20 a Deut
4:16-18; Ps 106:20; Jer 2:11; Acts 17:29 1 Or reptiles a Rom 1:26, 28;
Eph 4:19 b Eph 2:3 1 Lit the lie a Is 44:20; Jer 10:14; 13:25; 16:19 b
Rom 9:5; 2 Cor 11:31 2 Lit unto the ages a Rom 1:24 b 1 Thess 4:5 1 Lit
against nature a Lev 18:22; 20:13; 1 Cor 6:9 1 Lit the shameless deed 2
Lit themselves 1 Lit to have God in knowledge a Rom 1:24 a 2 Cor 12:20 1
Or hateful to God a Ps 5:5 b 2 Tim 3:2 a 2 Tim 3:3 a Rom 6:21 b Luke
11:48; Acts 8:1; 22:20
[1]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Ro 1:18). LaHabra,
CA: The Lockman Foundation.
[2]MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic
ed.) (Ro 1:20). Nashville: Word Pub.
[3]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (870).
Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.
[4]McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981). Thru the Bible commentary. Based on the
Thru the Bible radio program. (electronic ed.) (4:653). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson. 43 43. See Bruce A. Baker, "Romans 1:18-21 and
Presuppositional Apologetics," Bibliotheca Sacra 155:619 (July-September
1998):280-98. 44 44. Newell, p. 29. 45 45. "His invisible attributes . .
.. have been clearly seen" is an oxymoron. 46 46. Newell, p. 27.
[5]MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. (1997, c1995). Believer's Bible
Commentary : Old and New Testaments (Ro 1:20). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
47 47. Moo, p. 110. For a relevant exposition of verses 21-22, see
Francis A. Schaeffer, Death in the City, pp. 79-123. 48 48. Mounce, p.
80. 49 49. Natural here means in keeping with how God has designed
people, and unnatural refers to behavior that is contrary to how God has
made us. 50 50. Harrison, p. 25. 51 51. See P. Michael Ukleja,
"Homosexuality in the New Testament," Bibliotheca Sacra 140:560
(October-December 1983):350-58. 52 52. Henri Maurier, The Other
Covenant, p. 185. 53 53. David E. Malick, "The Condemnation of
Homosexuality in Romans 1:26-27, " Bibliotheca Sacra 150:599
(July-September 1993):340. Pederasty is a form of sodomy between males,
especially as practiced by a man with a boy. See also Sherwood A. Cole,
"Biology, Homosexuality, and Moral Culpability," Bibliotheca Sacra
154:615 (July-September 1997):355-66.
[6]Tom Constable. (2003; 2003). Tom Constable's Expository Notes on the
Bible (Ro 1:18). Galaxie Software.
[7]Geisler, N. L. (1999). Baker encyclopedia of Christian apologetics.
Baker reference library (434). Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Books.
[8]McGee, J. V. (1997, c1981). Thru the Bible commentary. Based on the
Thru the Bible radio program. (electronic ed.) (4:655). Nashville:
Thomas Nelson. | 
04-09-2007, 07:16 PM
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"lambert.uk" <lambertbj231@yahoo.uk.com> wrote in message news:lq2dnVrx4OVF-
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> 22 ?a?Professing to be wise, they became fools,
>
Yes, the whole shrieking mess is filled with question marks, which is more
polite than just coming out and saying it is a bunch of low class bullshit.
Of course, if there really was a god, he would have utter disdain for
groveling brainless "worshippers" and will make them the slaves in the
afterlife of those who were intelligent enough to question and be atheists. | 
04-09-2007, 07:17 PM
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"Kurt Gavin" <buggeroff@s.com> wrote in message news:1quSh.21106$tD2.999@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
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> "lambert.uk" <lambertbj231@yahoo.uk.com> wrote in message news:lq2dnVrx4OVF-
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>> 22 ?a?Professing to be wise, they ?unbelievers? became fools,
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>
> Yes, the whole shrieking mess is filled with question marks, which is more polite than just coming out and saying it is a bunch of
> low class bullshit.
>
> Of course, if there really was a god, he would have utter disdain for groveling brainless "worshippers" and will make them the
> slaves in the afterlife of those who were intelligent enough to question and be atheists. <=== hehehaha (-: ;-)
>
The Excellence of Love
(1 Corinthians 13 NASB)
The Excellence of Love
1 If I speak with the ?a?tongues of men and of ?b?angels, but do not have
love, I have become a noisy gong or a ?c?clanging cymbal.
2 If I have the gift of ?a?prophecy, and know all ?b?mysteries and all
?c?knowledge; and if I have ?d?all faith, so as to ?e?remove mountains, but do
not have love, I am nothing.
3 And if I ?a?give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I ?b?surrender
my body ?1?to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
4 Love ?a?is patient, love is kind and ?b?is not jealous; love does not brag and
is not ?c?arrogant,
5 does not act unbecomingly; it ?a?does not seek its own, is not provoked,
?b?does not take into account a wrong suffered,
6 ?a?does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but ?b?rejoices with the truth;
7 ?1??a?bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never fails; but if there are gifts of ?1??a?prophecy, they will be done
away; if there are ?b?tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be
done away.
9 For we ?a?know in part and we prophesy in part;
10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
11 When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason
like a child; when I ?1?became a man, I did away with childish things.
12 For now we ?a?see in a mirror ?1?dimly, but then ?b?face to face; now I
know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also ?c?have been fully known.
13 But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the ?1?greatest of these is
?a?love.
[1]
I love my wife. I love my kids. I love Big Macs. I love walks in the park on summer
evenings. We use the word "love" so freely that we diminish its meaning. The Greeks
circumvented this problem by using four words for love..
.. Storgi means affection. Storgi is the kind of love one feels toward his cat or dog.
.. Eros refers to sexual, physical love.
.. Phileo, from which we get the name "Philadelphia," speaks of brotherly love.
Phileo says, "If you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you."
It wasn't until the New Testament apostles introduced the concept of unconditional
love that the Greeks added agape to their vocabulary. Agape is a love that gives
simply for the sake of giving, never expecting anything in return. People who don't
know the Lord can experience all of the other kinds of love. But for them, agape is
impossible because it is found only in God. Agape is the love of which Paul speaks
when he says, "If I don't have love, I'm just making noise even if I speak in tongues
fluently."
In the year 1647, during England's Civil War, a deserter in Cromwell's army was
captured and brought before him.
"When the curfew bell sounds tonight, you shall be executed," said the general.
But that night, the curfew bell was not heard. Upon investigation, it was discovered
that, receiving news of her fianci's sentence, his betrothed made her way quickly to
the camp and hid in the bell tower. As curfew neared, she positioned herself within
the bell in such a way that when the rope was pulled, the clapper hit her body rather
than the inside of the bell. Seeing the bruised and battered lady standing before him,
Cromwell was so deeply touched by her love that the soldier's life was spared.
Jesus Christ climbed not a bell tower, but the hill of Calvary in order that you and I
would be spared the execution we so rightfully deserve. Whether the word is charity,
love, or agape, the love Jesus showed us, the love we are to extend to one another is
spelled one way: S-a-c-r-i-f-i-c-e.
[2]
A Topical Study of 1 Corinthians 13:4
The description of agape seen in 1 Corinthians 13 is glorious indeed. But, to the
believer, this passage can be very frustrating as well. You see, in 1 Corinthians 13,
we read that love is longsuffering and kind, that it neither envies nor seeks its own,
that it bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things, that
it never fails.
"What a beautiful description of love," we say with one breath, but, "too bad I'm so
far from it," with the next.
Today, however, I want you to look at the chapter before us from a slightly different
perspective. The apostle John tells us that God is love-literally that God is agape (1
John 4:16). Paul tells us that this Fountainhead of agape, the Essence of love, God
Himself demonstrated His love for us in that while we were yet sinners He died in
place of us (Romans 5:8). Seen in this light, 1 Corinthians 13 becomes not only an
exhortation to love others, but, more importantly, a description of God's love for
us..
Love suffereth long. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (a)
God suffers long. He suffers long toward me. Think of Jesus on the Cross. As men
cursed Him and spit on Him, what did He do? He suffered long. He said, "Father
forgive them. They don't know what they're doing" (see Luke 23:34). My tendency
is to think I've blown it so badly that surely God has given up on me. But the Cross
shows me otherwise.
..and is kind. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (b)
If you think God is vengeful, angry, and mean-spirited, you have the wrong image of
God. So kind, so gentle, so big-hearted is He that He does more for us than we
could ever ask or even think (Ephesians 3:20).
The psalmist tells us that the Lord will withhold no good thing from those that love
Him (Psalm 84:11). Therefore, if I'm not getting something for which I'm asking, it's
because what I'm asking for would not be good for me. If the timing isn't right, if the
request is wrong, He'll withhold it not because He's mean, but because He is love.
..love envieth not. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (c)
Bound together in the Trinity, Father, Son, and Spirit are completely self-sufficient
and totally happy. God says, "I want to walk with you; I'll never give up on you; I
avail Myself to you-but I'm not dependent on you." God's love is mature.
..love vaunteth not itself. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (d)
God doesn't have to hype Himself. What He says, He does. Who He claims to be,
He really is.
..is not puffed up. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (e)
God doesn't say, "I'm God and you're dust." No, He came to dwell among us, to
walk with us, to die for us. And He's the same today. He's always available to me,
always ready to hear my prayers, always ready to share with me truths from His
Word.
When I read 1 Corinthians 13 in this light, what does it do?
The apostle John tells us exactly what it does when he literally says, "We love
because He first loved us" (see 1 John 4:19). The person who understands that 1
Corinthians 13 is most fundamentally talking about the nature and character of God's
love toward him personally will be one who inevitably overflows with love to the
people around him.
We looked at only one verse in Paul's perfectly placed pomegranate of love. As you
make your way through the rest of the chapter, you will see God's love for you in
every verse. Marvel at it. Bask in it. Then let it overflow from your life to everyone
around you.
[3]
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a 1 Cor 12:10
b 2 Cor 12:4; Rev 14:2
c Ps 150:5
a Matt 7:22; Acts 13:1; 1 Cor 11:4; 13:8; 14:1, 39
b 1 Cor 14:2; 15:51
c Rom 15:14
d 1 Cor 12:9
e Matt 17:20; 21:21; Mark 11:23
a Matt 6:2
b Dan 3:28
1 Early mss read that I may boast
a Prov 10:12; 17:9; 1 Thess 5:14; 1 Pet 4:8
b Acts 7:9
c 1 Cor 4:6
a 1 Cor 10:24; Phil 2:21
b 2 Cor 5:19
a 2 Thess 2:12
b 2 John 4; 3 John 3f
1 Or covers
a 1 Cor 9:12
1 Lit prophecies
a 1 Cor 13:2
b 1 Cor 13:1
a 1 Cor 8:2; 13:12
1 Lit have become...have done away with
a 2 Cor 5:7; Phil 3:12; James 1:23
1 Lit in a riddle
b Gen 32:30; Num 12:8; 1 John 3:2
c 1 Cor 8:3
1 Lit greater
a Gal 5:6
[1]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (1 Co 13:1). LaHabra, CA:
The Lockman Foundation.
[2]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1074). Nashville,
TN: Thomas Nelson.
[3]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1078). Nashville,
TN: Thomas Nelson.
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| | | Re: Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day and the diabetic demons are very angry. "lambert.uk" <lambertbj231@yahoo.uk.com> blew me away with
news:lq2dnVrx4OVF-ofbnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
> "Pious Paul" <piousboy@unclewebster.com> wrote in message
> news:RGtSh.21097$tD2.2026@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>> news:1176103915.075137.315420@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>>> friend George wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Genus"?
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Demons (satan's sockpuppets) are infinitely less than a subspecies.
>>>
>>> May GOD bless you.
>>>
>>> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>>
>>> Andrew <><
>>> --
>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>>
>> Don't do me any favors. Just the thought of someone believing in some
>> sky pixie (other than the God Tinkerbelle) makes me PUKE!
>>
>> I wasn't responding to you, anyway.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> "The number one reason people turn away from Christ is Christians!"
>>
>>
>> Pious Paul
>>
>> "Man of Sin"
>>
>>
>> Ordained Minister-Universal Life Church <== by whom!
>> AFJC Photo Archivist <== smut folder
>> DOD#144,000 (the LAST one in) <== I doubt you'll ever
>> get in!
>>
>> "AFJC...We Care" <== about me,
>> mtsel, and Ionly
>
> Unbelief and Its Consequences
Many lines of cut & paste drivel snipped...
There won't be any consequences. Your god is as inconsequential as Zeus
or Odin (to name but two).
--
Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Plonked by Fred Stone 03/17/2006
Denizen of Darkness #44
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04-09-2007, 07:17 PM
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"Phÿltêr" <phylter@phylterworld.com> wrote in message news:Xns990D8CA178E2DSmeagolsring@207.115.17.102.. .
>>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1176103915.075137.315420@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> friend George wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Genus"?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Demons (satan's sockpuppets) are infinitely less than a subspecies.
>>>>
>>>> May GOD bless you.
>>>>
>>>> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>>>
>>>> Andrew <><
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>>>
>>> Don't do me any favors. Just the thought of someone believing in some
>>> sky pixie (other than the God Tinkerbelle) makes me PUKE!
>>>
>>> I wasn't responding to you, anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ordained Minister-Universal Life Church <== by whom!
>>> AFJC Photo Archivist <== smut folder
>>> DOD#144,000 (the LAST one in) <== I doubt you'll ever
>>> get in!
>>>
>>> "AFJC...We Care" <== about me,
>>> mtsel, and Ionly
>>
>> Unbelief and Its Consequences
>
> Many lines of cut & paste drivel snipped...
>
> There won't be any consequences. Your god is as inconsequential as Zeus
> or Odin (to name but two).
>
Phÿltêr - (PHAP) aka "She's So Fat ..." I see U got outta jail for that female
impersonation in the park a week ago, huh. (-:
UR still looking fer meaning urine life?
The Search for Meaning
One might well ask what those pursuits are that bridge the existential and
the rigorously intellectual? At the center of life lie four questions of origin,
meaning, morality, and destiny. How did I come to be? What brings life
meaning? How do I determine right from wrong? What happens to a
person when he or she dies? These are the questions that dig deep into
our thinking, the answers to which we must find if life is to be defined
correctly.
But there is a caution. First and foremost, the answer to each of these
four
questions must be established as true by its correspondence to reality.
Further, all the answers when put together must cohere without
contradiction. For example, the naturalist tries to explain our origin by
saying that life evolved purely by accident and that we are here due to the
cumulative effect of time plus matter plus chance. If that is true, there is no
way to establish any point of reference for either meaning or morality. In
other words, in a naturalistic framework, any constructed meaning is as
equally valid as any other espoused meaning. The words of G. K.
Chesterton ring true: The tragedy of disbelieving in God, he said, is not
that a person ends up believing in nothing. It is much worse. He may end
up believing in anything. There is no way within naturalism to arrive at an
objective moral law or an ontic referent for meaning. Anything goes!
Therefore, it does not suffice to offer just a view on origins. The
entailments must be justified as well.
Another example is pantheism. If all is one and all is God, how can
pantheism explain either origin or morality? And what about Buddha, who
said that every birth is a rebirth and a payment for the previous birth?
Was
there ever a first birth? And if so, what was it paying for? It is not
sufficient
to explain merely origin or destiny. The questions of meaning and morality
must also have equally coherent answers because they stand in
interdependence to each other.
For me personally, the only one whose answers correspond to reality and
cohere in their sum and substance is Jesus Christ. His gospel tells me that
I
am a moral being made for his purpose. My meaning is found in knowing
and loving him. My moral choices are based on his character. My destiny
is to live in eternity with him. In this chapter, I will address only one of
these questions-what meaning means in the Christian context. In that
meaning I find both a rational and an existential defense of Jesus' unique
claims.
The search for meaning is as old as humanity. Even those who have
dabbled lightly in the vast corpus of Greek mythology know the story of
Sisyphus. Poor Sisyphus suffered the wrath of the gods when he revealed
to mere mortals secrets that were known only within the Greek pantheon.
He was sentenced to roll a massive stone to the top of a hill, watch it roll
down again, and then repeat the process endlessly. His was a life
consigned to futility.
Many intriguing suggestions have been made by philosophers in their
attempts to rescue Sisyphus from this futility. "If only Sisyphus could have
changed the way he viewed his task, so that he enjoyed rolling the stone,"
opined one. "Could he not have rolled up a different stone each time, so
that someone else could have built a monument with it?" "Could he not
have found some distraction that would take away the monotony?" It
does
not take a genius to grasp the reason behind the futility that holds
Sisyphus
in its grasp.
As times have changed and possibilities abound, one would think we
should have come a long way from Sisyphus's malady. Instead, we deal
with the same problem, only now it is the busyness of life. No amount of
distraction has cured boredom. No variety changes the question of
ultimate futility.
Not long ago, Life published a book on how individuals cope with this
quest for meaning. The publication is a fascinating cross section of words
and pictures-from philosophers to drug addicts, from painters to
plumbers. José Martinez, a taxi driver in New York, provided this
gripping sound bite of despair:
We're here to die, just live and die. I live driving a cab. I do some fishing,
take my girl out, pay taxes, do a little reading, then get ready to drop
dead. Life is a big fake. . . . You're rich or you're poor. You're here,
you're gone. You're like the wind. After you're gone, other people will
come. It's too late to make it better. Everyone's fed up, can't believe in
nothing no more. People have no pride. People have no fear. . . . People
only care about one thing and that's money. We're gonna destroy
ourselves, nothing we can do about it. The only cure for the world's
illness
is nuclear war-wipe everything out and start over. We've become like a
cornered animal, fighting for survival. Life is nothing.?1?
There is a disturbing candor behind his admission. But we are quick to
rationalize his predicament, fearful of seeing ourselves reflected in his
portrait. "Of course a man struggling to make a living and stressed by an
unrewarding job is bound to seem hopeless. If he were given limitless
freedom and a limitless bank account, his meaninglessness would vanish."
The errant assumption that meaning can be found by merely changing
one's circumstances is endemic to our human condition.
Credited to the pen of King Solomon, no piece of ancient literature is
more forthright and more penetrating in its treatment of this struggle than
the Book of Ecclesiastes. The opening lines claim, "Meaningless,
meaningless! All is meaningless!" Then Solomon takes a regressive
journey, cataloguing his path to that cynicism-wisdom, pleasure, work,
material gain, and much else. He came away empty.
I denied myself nothing my eyes desired;
I refused my heart no pleasure.
My heart took delight in all my work,
and this was the reward for all my labor.
Yet when I surveyed all that my hands had done
and what I had toiled to achieve,
everything was meaningless, a chasing after the wind;
nothing was gained under the sun.
2:10-11
This was no Sisyphus or taxi driver speaking. At Solomon's command,
others rolled stones up steep hills so that he could build his stables,
palaces, and temples. He was a man who boasted unparalleled intellect
and imagination that made him the envy of many and who presided over
the most pompous court of his time. In the end, he groaned that "under
the
sun" there was a monotony, a circularity, and a fatality to all human
endeavor.
Solomon's assessment presents a startling even fearsome reality: The
worst kind of meaninglessness does not come from being weary of pain
or
poverty but from being weary of pleasure amid plenty. Solomon is not the
only one, surrounded by wealth and success, who talked of such
disappointment at the end of the road. The refrain is repeated constantly
yet often seems to fall on deaf ears. A modern-day writer, Jack Higgins,
was asked at the pinnacle of his success what he now knows that he
wished he had known as a younger man: "I wish I had known that when
you get to the top, there is nothing there."?2?
Many scientists have recently entered the fray. Some have castigated
philosophers and theologians for raising the problem in the first place and
creating a need that ought never to have been manufactured. Their
solution
staggers the imagination. Here, for example, is the suggestion of Harvard
paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould.
The human species has inhabited this planet for only 250,000 years or
so-roughly .0015 percent of the history of life, the last inch of the
cosmic
mile. The world fared perfectly well without us for all but the last moment
of earthly time-and this fact makes our appearance look more like an
accidental afterthought than the culmination of a prefigured plan.
Moreover, and more important, the pathways that have led to our
evolution are quirky, improbable, unrepeatable and utterly unpredictable.
Human evolution is not random; it makes sense and can be explained
after
the fact. But wind back life's tape to the dawn of time and let it play
again-and you will never get humans a second time. We are here
because one odd group of fishes had a peculiar fin anatomy that could
transform into legs for terrestrial creatures; because comets struck the
earth and wiped out dinosaurs, thereby giving mammals a chance not
otherwise available . . . because the earth never froze entirely during an
ice
age; because a small and tenuous species, arising in Africa a quarter of a
million years ago, has managed so far by hook and by crook. We may
yearn for a higher answer-but none exists. . . . We cannot read the
meaning of life passively in the facts of nature. We must construct these
answers ourselves-from our own wisdom and ethical sense. There is no
other way.?3?
The naturalist's contribution is to assert that the search for higher meaning
is itself a pointless one because it creates the need for objective
metaphysical certainty, when in truth the empirical world does not offer us
such assurances. If nature and matter are all that exist, higher meaning
simply cannot be found and should not be sought.
To his credit, Gould correctly recognizes that the "what" of life and the
"why" of life are inextricably connected. In a philosophy that defines life
apart from God there is a plethora of options, each in one way or another
forfeiting the right to judge anyone else's choice. But as we move from
infancy to maturity, the "whys" of life proliferate, and we seek coherent
answers that rise above mere speculation. By contrast, when God is in
the
picture, life gains an intrinsically sacred nature-based on who he is and
why he has made us in the first place.
Stephen Hawking reinforces this impact at the end of his book, A Brief
History of Time. After discussing the "what" of life, he says, "If we knew
the why, then we will have the mind of God."?4? There it is again: More
consequences follow from the reality of God than we are often willing to
admit. It is the mind of God to which we turn in seeking an answer to
meaning. The gospel of Jesus Christ deals precisely with the question
why.
Jesus says, have come that they may have life, and have it to the full"
(John
10:10). He tells his disciples that he wanted their joy to be full. The
wealthy and the poor, the young and the old came and drew life and joy
from him. How did he give life meaning?
[1]
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1 Quoted in David Friend, The Meaning of Life (Boston: Little, Brown,
1991), 90.
2 Quoted in Alister McGrath, Intellectuals Don't Need God and Other
Modern Myths (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1993), 15.
3 Stephen Jay Gould, quoted in The Meaning of Life, 33.
4 Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time (London: Bantam Books,
1988), 175.
[1]Geisler, N. L., & Hoffman, P. K. (2001). Why I am a Christian :
Leading thinkers explain why they believe (268). Grand Rapids, Mich.:
Baker Books.
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| | | Re: Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day and the diabetic demons are very angry.
"lambert.uk" <lambertbj231@yahoo.uk.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Pious Paul" <piousboy@unclewebster.com> wrote in message
> news:RGtSh.21097$tD2.2026@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>> news:1176103915.075137.315420@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>>> friend George wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Genus"?
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Demons (satan's sockpuppets) are infinitely less than a subspecies.
>>>
>>> May GOD bless you.
>>>
>>> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>>
>>> Andrew <><
>>> --
>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>>
>> Don't do me any favors. Just the thought of someone believing in some sky
>> pixie (other than the God Tinkerbelle) makes me PUKE!
>>
>> I wasn't responding to you, anyway.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> "The number one reason people turn away from Christ is Christians!"
>>
>>
>> Pious Paul
>>
>> "Man of Sin"
>>
>>
>> Ordained Minister-Universal Life Church <== by whom! http://www.jesusseesus.ws/revpious.jpg
>> AFJC Photo Archivist <== smut folder
>> DOD#144,000 (the LAST one in) <== I doubt you'll ever get
>> in!
>>
>> "AFJC...We Care" <== about me, mtsel,
>> and Ionly
Of course, we all care about the misguided at AFJC.
<snip>
BAAAAAAAARF!
Damn it. Now I'll have to plonk you.
--
"The number one reason people turn away from Christ is Christians!"
Pious Paul
"Man of Sin"
Ordained Minister-Universal Life Church
AFJC Photo Archivist
DOD#144,000 (the LAST one in)
"AFJC...We Care" | 
04-09-2007, 07:17 PM
| | | Re: Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day and the diabetic demons are very angry. In article <461a77a3$0$2251$8d2e0cab@news.newsgroup-binaries.com>, ljmybell@maybeiwill.com says...
> 13 But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the ?1?greatest of these is
> ?a?love.
>
That's Earthquack knackered then, seeing as his wife fled to California
and got a restraining order out on him.
The only love he has is for the sound of his own shrieking voice
FR
--
Earthquack reminds me of a drowning man, alone at sea. Clutching at
pieces of driftwood and declaring that they are "Proof of Boat" | 
04-09-2007, 09:28 PM
| | | Re: Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day and the diabetic demons are very angry. Personally, I don't care much for all this "love" talk, coming from the myth
book of an institution that has a history of ignorance, murder and terror.
If the gods yahweh and jesus are real, then let them appear, prove their
existences and powers, and let man know what they want.
If they can't do that, then forget it - it's not real.
"St. Jockofgrapes" <ljmybell@maybeiwill.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Kurt Gavin" <buggeroff@s.com> wrote in message
> news:1quSh.21106$tD2.999@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>
>> "lambert.uk" <lambertbj231@yahoo.uk.com> wrote in message
>> news:lq2dnVrx4OVF-
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 22 ?a?Professing to be wise, they ?unbelievers? became fools,
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the whole shrieking mess is filled with question marks, which is
>> more polite than just coming out and saying it is a bunch of low class
>> bullshit.
>>
>> Of course, if there really was a god, he would have utter disdain for
>> groveling brainless "worshippers" and will make them the slaves in the
>> afterlife of those who were intelligent enough to question and be
>> atheists. <=== hehehaha (-: ;-)
>>
>
>
> The Excellence of Love
>
>
> (1 Corinthians 13 NASB)
>
> The Excellence of Love
>
> 1 If I speak with the ?a?tongues of men and of ?b?angels, but do
> not have
> love, I have become a noisy gong or a ?c?clanging cymbal.
>
> 2 If I have the gift of ?a?prophecy, and know all ?b?mysteries and
> all
> ?c?knowledge; and if I have ?d?all faith, so as to ?e?remove
> mountains, but do
> not have love, I am nothing.
>
> 3 And if I ?a?give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I
> ?b?surrender
> my body ?1?to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
>
> 4 Love ?a?is patient, love is kind and ?b?is not jealous; love
> does not brag and
> is not ?c?arrogant,
>
> 5 does not act unbecomingly; it ?a?does not seek its own, is not
> provoked,
> ?b?does not take into account a wrong suffered,
>
> 6 ?a?does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but ?b?rejoices with the
> truth;
>
> 7 ?1??a?bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things,
> endures all things.
>
> 8 Love never fails; but if there are gifts of ?1??a?prophecy, they
> will be done
> away; if there are ?b?tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge,
> it will be
> done away.
>
> 9 For we ?a?know in part and we prophesy in part;
>
> 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
>
> 11 When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a
> child, reason
> like a child; when I ?1?became a man, I did away with childish things.
>
> 12 For now we ?a?see in a mirror ?1?dimly, but then ?b?face to
> face; now I
> know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also ?c?have been
> fully known.
>
> 13 But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the
> ?1?greatest of these is
> ?a?love.
>
> [1]
>
>
> I love my wife. I love my kids. I love Big Macs. I love walks in the park
> on summer
> evenings. We use the word "love" so freely that we diminish its meaning.
> The Greeks
> circumvented this problem by using four words for love..
>
> . Storgi means affection. Storgi is the kind of love one feels toward
> his cat or dog.
>
> . Eros refers to sexual, physical love.
>
> . Phileo, from which we get the name "Philadelphia," speaks of
> brotherly love.
> Phileo says, "If you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you."
>
> It wasn't until the New Testament apostles introduced the concept of
> unconditional
> love that the Greeks added agape to their vocabulary. Agape is a love that
> gives
> simply for the sake of giving, never expecting anything in return. People
> who don't
> know the Lord can experience all of the other kinds of love. But for them,
> agape is
> impossible because it is found only in God. Agape is the love of which
> Paul speaks
> when he says, "If I don't have love, I'm just making noise even if I speak
> in tongues
> fluently."
>
> In the year 1647, during England's Civil War, a deserter in Cromwell's
> army was
> captured and brought before him.
>
> "When the curfew bell sounds tonight, you shall be executed," said the
> general.
>
> But that night, the curfew bell was not heard. Upon investigation, it was
> discovered
> that, receiving news of her fianci's sentence, his betrothed made her way
> quickly to
> the camp and hid in the bell tower. As curfew neared, she positioned
> herself within
> the bell in such a way that when the rope was pulled, the clapper hit her
> body rather
> than the inside of the bell. Seeing the bruised and battered lady standing
> before him,
> Cromwell was so deeply touched by her love that the soldier's life was
> spared.
>
> Jesus Christ climbed not a bell tower, but the hill of Calvary in order
> that you and I
> would be spared the execution we so rightfully deserve. Whether the word
> is charity,
> love, or agape, the love Jesus showed us, the love we are to extend to one
> another is
>
> spelled one way: S-a-c-r-i-f-i-c-e.
>
> [2]
>
>
> A Topical Study of 1 Corinthians 13:4
>
> The description of agape seen in 1 Corinthians 13 is glorious indeed. But,
> to the
> believer, this passage can be very frustrating as well. You see, in 1
> Corinthians 13,
> we read that love is longsuffering and kind, that it neither envies nor
> seeks its own,
> that it bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and
> endures all things, that
> it never fails.
>
> "What a beautiful description of love," we say with one breath, but, "too
> bad I'm so
> far from it," with the next.
>
> Today, however, I want you to look at the chapter before us from a
> slightly different
> perspective. The apostle John tells us that God is love-literally that God
> is agape (1
> John 4:16). Paul tells us that this Fountainhead of agape, the Essence of
> love, God
> Himself demonstrated His love for us in that while we were yet sinners He
> died in
> place of us (Romans 5:8). Seen in this light, 1 Corinthians 13 becomes not
> only an
> exhortation to love others, but, more importantly, a description of God's
> love for
> us..
>
> Love suffereth long. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (a)
>
> God suffers long. He suffers long toward me. Think of Jesus on the Cross.
> As men
> cursed Him and spit on Him, what did He do? He suffered long. He said,
> "Father
> forgive them. They don't know what they're doing" (see Luke 23:34). My
> tendency
> is to think I've blown it so badly that surely God has given up on me. But
> the Cross
> shows me otherwise.
>
> .and is kind. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (b)
>
> If you think God is vengeful, angry, and mean-spirited, you have the wrong
> image of
> God. So kind, so gentle, so big-hearted is He that He does more for us
> than we
> could ever ask or even think (Ephesians 3:20).
>
> The psalmist tells us that the Lord will withhold no good thing from those
> that love
> Him (Psalm 84:11). Therefore, if I'm not getting something for which I'm
> asking, it's
> because what I'm asking for would not be good for me. If the timing isn't
> right, if the
> request is wrong, He'll withhold it not because He's mean, but because He
> is love.
>
> .love envieth not. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (c)
>
> Bound together in the Trinity, Father, Son, and Spirit are completely
> self-sufficient
> and totally happy. God says, "I want to walk with you; I'll never give up
> on you; I
> avail Myself to you-but I'm not dependent on you." God's love is mature.
>
> .love vaunteth not itself. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (d)
>
> God doesn't have to hype Himself. What He says, He does. Who He claims to
> be,
> He really is.
>
> .is not puffed up. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (e)
>
> God doesn't say, "I'm God and you're dust." No, He came to dwell among us,
> to
> walk with us, to die for us. And He's the same today. He's always
> available to me,
> always ready to hear my prayers, always ready to share with me truths from
> His
> Word.
>
> When I read 1 Corinthians 13 in this light, what does it do?
>
> The apostle John tells us exactly what it does when he literally says, "We
> love
> because He first loved us" (see 1 John 4:19). The person who understands
> that 1
> Corinthians 13 is most fundamentally talking about the nature and
> character of God's
> love toward him personally will be one who inevitably overflows with love
> to the
> people around him.
>
> We looked at only one verse in Paul's perfectly placed pomegranate of
> love. As you
> make your way through the rest of the chapter, you will see God's love for
> you in
> every verse. Marvel at it. Bask in it. Then let it overflow from your life
> to everyone
> around you.
>
> [3]
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> a 1 Cor 12:10
> b 2 Cor 12:4; Rev 14:2
> c Ps 150:5
> a Matt 7:22; Acts 13:1; 1 Cor 11:4; 13:8; 14:1, 39
> b 1 Cor 14:2; 15:51
> c Rom 15:14
> d 1 Cor 12:9
> e Matt 17:20; 21:21; Mark 11:23
> a Matt 6:2
> b Dan 3:28
> 1 Early mss read that I may boast
> a Prov 10:12; 17:9; 1 Thess 5:14; 1 Pet 4:8
> b Acts 7:9
> c 1 Cor 4:6
> a 1 Cor 10:24; Phil 2:21
> b 2 Cor 5:19
> a 2 Thess 2:12
> b 2 John 4; 3 John 3f
> 1 Or covers
> a 1 Cor 9:12
> 1 Lit prophecies
> a 1 Cor 13:2
> b 1 Cor 13:1
> a 1 Cor 8:2; 13:12
> 1 Lit have become...have done away with
> a 2 Cor 5:7; Phil 3:12; James 1:23
> 1 Lit in a riddle
> b Gen 32:30; Num 12:8; 1 John 3:2
> c 1 Cor 8:3
> 1 Lit greater
> a Gal 5:6
>
> [1]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (1 Co 13:1). LaHabra,
> CA:
> The Lockman Foundation.
>
> [2]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1074).
> Nashville,
> TN: Thomas Nelson.
>
> [3]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1078).
> Nashville,
> TN: Thomas Nelson.
>
>
>
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04-09-2007, 09:28 PM
| | | Re: Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day and the diabetic demons are very angry.
"Thumper" <roadapple@unclewebster.com> wrote in message
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>
> "lambert.uk" <lambertbj231@yahoo.uk.com> wrote in message
> news:lq2dnVrx4OVF-ofbnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Pious Paul" <piousboy@unclewebster.com> wrote in message
>> news:RGtSh.21097$tD2.2026@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>
>>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1176103915.075137.315420@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> friend George wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Genus"?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Demons (satan's sockpuppets) are infinitely less than a subspecies.
>>>>
>>>> May GOD bless you.
>>>>
>>>> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>>>
>>>> Andrew <><
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>>>
>>> Don't do me any favors. Just the thought of someone believing in some
>>> sky pixie (other than the God Tinkerbelle) makes me PUKE!
>>>
>>> I wasn't responding to you, anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "The number one reason people turn away from Christ is Christians!"
>>>
>>>
>>> Pious Paul
>>>
>>> "Man of Sin"
>>>
>>>
>>> Ordained Minister-Universal Life Church <== by whom!
>
> http://www.jesusseesus.ws/revpious.jpg
>
>>> AFJC Photo Archivist <== smut folder
>>> DOD#144,000 (the LAST one in) <== I doubt you'll ever get
>>> in!
>>>
>>> "AFJC...We Care" <== about me, mtsel,
>>> and Ionly
>
> Of course, we all care about the misguided at AFJC.
>
> <snip>
>
> BAAAAAAAARF!
>
> Damn it. Now I'll have to plonk you.
He'll be right back with a diff nym
> "The number one reason people turn away from Christ is Christians!"
>
>
> Pious Paul
>
> "Man of Sin"
>
>
> Ordained Minister-Universal Life Church
> AFJC Photo Archivist
> DOD#144,000 (the LAST one in)
>
> "AFJC...We Care"
We most certainly do!
>
>
>
>
>
> | 
04-09-2007, 09:29 PM
| | | Re: Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day and the diabetic demons are very angry.
"Kurt Gavin" <buggeroff@s.com> wrote in message news:yTvSh.1300$3P3.822@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> Personally, I don't care much for all this "love" talk, coming from the myth book of an institution that has a history of
> ignorance, murder and terror.
>
> If the gods yahweh and jesus are real, then let them appear, prove their existences and powers, and let man know what they want.
>
> If they can't do that, then forget it - it's not real. <== ALREADY HAVE!
>>
>> The Excellence of Love
>>
>>
>> (1 Corinthians 13 NASB)
>>
>> The Excellence of Love
>>
>> 1 If I speak with the ?a?tongues of men and of ?b?angels, but do not have
>> love, I have become a noisy gong or a ?c?clanging cymbal.
>>
>> 2 If I have the gift of ?a?prophecy, and know all ?b?mysteries and all
>> ?c?knowledge; and if I have ?d?all faith, so as to ?e?remove mountains, but do
>> not have love, I am nothing.
>>
>> 3 And if I ?a?give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I ?b?surrender
>> my body ?1?to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
>>
>> 4 Love ?a?is patient, love is kind and ?b?is not jealous; love does not brag and
>> is not ?c?arrogant,
>>
>> 5 does not act unbecomingly; it ?a?does not seek its own, is not provoked,
>> ?b?does not take into account a wrong suffered,
>>
>> 6 ?a?does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but ?b?rejoices with the truth;
>>
>> 7 ?1??a?bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
>>
>> 8 Love never fails; but if there are gifts of ?1??a?prophecy, they will be done
>> away; if there are ?b?tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be
>> done away.
>>
>> 9 For we ?a?know in part and we prophesy in part;
>>
>> 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
>>
>> 11 When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason
>> like a child; when I ?1?became a man, I did away with childish things.
>>
>> 12 For now we ?a?see in a mirror ?1?dimly, but then ?b?face to face; now I
>> know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also ?c?have been fully known.
>>
>> 13 But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the ?1?greatest of these is
>> ?a?love.
>>
>> [1]
>>
>>
>> I love my wife. I love my kids. I love Big Macs. I love walks in the park on summer
>> evenings. We use the word "love" so freely that we diminish its meaning. The Greeks
>> circumvented this problem by using four words for love..
>>
>> . Storgi means affection. Storgi is the kind of love one feels toward his cat or dog.
>>
>> . Eros refers to sexual, physical love.
>>
>> . Phileo, from which we get the name "Philadelphia," speaks of brotherly love.
>> Phileo says, "If you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you."
>>
>> It wasn't until the New Testament apostles introduced the concept of unconditional
>> love that the Greeks added agape to their vocabulary. Agape is a love that gives
>> simply for the sake of giving, never expecting anything in return. People who don't
>> know the Lord can experience all of the other kinds of love. But for them, agape is
>> impossible because it is found only in God. Agape is the love of which Paul speaks
>> when he says, "If I don't have love, I'm just making noise even if I speak in tongues
>> fluently."
>>
>> In the year 1647, during England's Civil War, a deserter in Cromwell's army was
>> captured and brought before him.
>>
>> "When the curfew bell sounds tonight, you shall be executed," said the general.
>>
>> But that night, the curfew bell was not heard. Upon investigation, it was discovered
>> that, receiving news of her fianci's sentence, his betrothed made her way quickly to
>> the camp and hid in the bell tower. As curfew neared, she positioned herself within
>> the bell in such a way that when the rope was pulled, the clapper hit her body rather
>> than the inside of the bell. Seeing the bruised and battered lady standing before him,
>> Cromwell was so deeply touched by her love that the soldier's life was spared.
>>
>> Jesus Christ climbed not a bell tower, but the hill of Calvary in order that you and I
>> would be spared the execution we so rightfully deserve. Whether the word is charity,
>> love, or agape, the love Jesus showed us, the love we are to extend to one another is
>>
>> spelled one way: S-a-c-r-i-f-i-c-e.
>>
>> [2]
>>
>>
>> A Topical Study of 1 Corinthians 13:4
>>
>> The description of agape seen in 1 Corinthians 13 is glorious indeed. But, to the
>> believer, this passage can be very frustrating as well. You see, in 1 Corinthians 13,
>> we read that love is longsuffering and kind, that it neither envies nor seeks its own,
>> that it bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things, that
>> it never fails.
>>
>> "What a beautiful description of love," we say with one breath, but, "too bad I'm so
>> far from it," with the next.
>>
>> Today, however, I want you to look at the chapter before us from a slightly different
>> perspective. The apostle John tells us that God is love-literally that God is agape (1
>> John 4:16). Paul tells us that this Fountainhead of agape, the Essence of love, God
>> Himself demonstrated His love for us in that while we were yet sinners He died in
>> place of us (Romans 5:8). Seen in this light, 1 Corinthians 13 becomes not only an
>> exhortation to love others, but, more importantly, a description of God's love for
>> us..
>>
>> Love suffereth long. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (a)
>>
>> God suffers long. He suffers long toward me. Think of Jesus on the Cross. As men
>> cursed Him and spit on Him, what did He do? He suffered long. He said, "Father
>> forgive them. They don't know what they're doing" (see Luke 23:34). My tendency
>> is to think I've blown it so badly that surely God has given up on me. But the Cross
>> shows me otherwise.
>>
>> .and is kind. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (b)
>>
>> If you think God is vengeful, angry, and mean-spirited, you have the wrong image of
>> God. So kind, so gentle, so big-hearted is He that He does more for us than we
>> could ever ask or even think (Ephesians 3:20).
>>
>> The psalmist tells us that the Lord will withhold no good thing from those that love
>> Him (Psalm 84:11). Therefore, if I'm not getting something for which I'm asking, it's
>> because what I'm asking for would not be good for me. If the timing isn't right, if the
>> request is wrong, He'll withhold it not because He's mean, but because He is love.
>>
>> .love envieth not. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (c)
>>
>> Bound together in the Trinity, Father, Son, and Spirit are completely self-sufficient
>> and totally happy. God says, "I want to walk with you; I'll never give up on you; I
>> avail Myself to you-but I'm not dependent on you." God's love is mature.
>>
>> .love vaunteth not itself. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (d)
>>
>> God doesn't have to hype Himself. What He says, He does. Who He claims to be,
>> He really is.
>>
>> .is not puffed up. 1 Corinthians 13:4 (e)
>>
>> God doesn't say, "I'm God and you're dust." No, He came to dwell among us, to
>> walk with us, to die for us. And He's the same today. He's always available to me,
>> always ready to hear my prayers, always ready to share with me truths from His
>> Word.
>>
>> When I read 1 Corinthians 13 in this light, what does it do?
>>
>> The apostle John tells us exactly what it does when he literally says, "We love
>> because He first loved us" (see 1 John 4:19). The person who understands that 1
>> Corinthians 13 is most fundamentally talking about the nature and character of God's
>> love toward him personally will be one who inevitably overflows with love to the
>> people around him.
>>
>> We looked at only one verse in Paul's perfectly placed pomegranate of love. As you
>> make your way through the rest of the chapter, you will see God's love for you in
>> every verse. Marvel at it. Bask in it. Then let it overflow from your life to everyone
>> around you.
>>
>> [3]
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> a 1 Cor 12:10
>> b 2 Cor 12:4; Rev 14:2
>> c Ps 150:5
>> a Matt 7:22; Acts 13:1; 1 Cor 11:4; 13:8; 14:1, 39
>> b 1 Cor 14:2; 15:51
>> c Rom 15:14
>> d 1 Cor 12:9
>> e Matt 17:20; 21:21; Mark 11:23
>> a Matt 6:2
>> b Dan 3:28
>> 1 Early mss read that I may boast
>> a Prov 10:12; 17:9; 1 Thess 5:14; 1 Pet 4:8
>> b Acts 7:9
>> c 1 Cor 4:6
>> a 1 Cor 10:24; Phil 2:21
>> b 2 Cor 5:19
>> a 2 Thess 2:12
>> b 2 John 4; 3 John 3f
>> 1 Or covers
>> a 1 Cor 9:12
>> 1 Lit prophecies
>> a 1 Cor 13:2
>> b 1 Cor 13:1
>> a 1 Cor 8:2; 13:12
>> 1 Lit have become...have done away with
>> a 2 Cor 5:7; Phil 3:12; James 1:23
>> 1 Lit in a riddle
>> b Gen 32:30; Num 12:8; 1 John 3:2
>> c 1 Cor 8:3
>> 1 Lit greater
>> a Gal 5:6
>>
>> [1]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (1 Co 13:1). LaHabra, CA:
>> The Lockman Foundation.
>>
>> [2]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1074). Nashville,
>> TN: Thomas Nelson.
>>
>> [3]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (1078). Nashville,
>> TN: Thomas Nelson.
>>
>>
>>
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04-09-2007, 11:26 PM
| | | Re: Proof of LORD Almighty GOD: Pastorio died on April Fool's day and the diabetic demons are very angry.
"Thumper" <roadapple@unclewebster.com> wrote in message news:AevSh.135903$_73.67800@newsread2.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>
> "lambert.uk" <lambertbj231@yahoo.uk.com> wrote in message news:lq2dnVrx4OVF-ofbnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> "Pious Paul" <piousboy@unclewebster.com> wrote in message news:RGtSh.21097$tD2.2026@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>>
>>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <love4@thetruth.com> wrote in message news:1176103915.075137.315420@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> friend George wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Genus"?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Demons (satan's sockpuppets) are infinitely less than a subspecies.
>>>>
>>>> May GOD bless you.
>>>>
>>>> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>>>
>>>> Andrew <><
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>>>
>>> Don't do me any favors. Just the thought of someone believing in some sky pixie (other than the God Tinkerbelle) makes me PUKE!
>>>
>>> I wasn't responding to you, anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "The number one reason people turn away from Christ is Christians!"
>>>
>>>
>>> Pious Paul
>>>
>>> "Man of Sin"
>>>
>>>
>>> Ordained Minister-Universal Life Church <== by whom!
>
> http://www.jesusseesus.ws/revpious.jpg
>
>>> AFJC Photo Archivist <== smut folder
>>> DOD#144,000 (the LAST one in) <== I doubt you'll ever get in!
>>>
>>> "AFJC...We Care" <== about me, mtsel, and Ionly
>
> Of course, we all care about the misguided at AFJC.
>
> <snip>
> BAAAAAAAARF! <== The atheist bellow, like a frustrated goat:
BAAWAAAAAAAAA, etc.
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